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The Duggars: In the Media and TLC

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BitterApple

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Just now, GeeGolly said:

19 Kids and Counting, Jill and Jessa: Counting On, Counting On ...

... Counting with Jinger & Jeremy.

I swear they're angling for it. Notice how Jinger makes sure to mention they're staying put in L.A., a city which has the double benefit of being an entertainment hub and a much more aesthetic shooting location than Springdale. 

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They put themselves on tv and have proclaimed over and over and over and over again that their way of life is the way to ensure that your children are totally safe from every evil of the world, and in

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Just now, JoanArc said:

UP Yours, Duggars! Lol, UP won't touch them, right?

I doubt it. They're tainted. I don't think UP has as much money as TLC. The Bates seem to be doing pretty well. They just had a new season. It used to be the Duggars were so much higher in status than the Bates. Not anymore.

2 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

Maybe a Duggar needs to marry a Bates lol

You're giving JIm Boob ideas. Bringing Up Bates and Duggars.

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44 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I swear they're angling for it. Notice how Jinger makes sure to mention they're staying put in L.A., a city which has the double benefit of being an entertainment hub and a much more aesthetic shooting location than Springdale. 

I kind of got the impression its in the books already. Soon to be announced.

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Zella

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Even if the Vuolos don't have another show in the bag, I could definitely see Jeremy being relieved his in-laws are no longer on TV. It wouldn't surprise me if he blames their reputation for his cancelled influencer deals and thinks he will have better luck if they have a lower profile. I think he's an idiot if he thinks that because that fool has as much baggage as LAX on his own, but he's never struck me as the sharpest knife in the drawer about anything. 

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42 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I kind of got the impression its in the books already. Soon to be announced.

Even if they got the show, neither one of them has the presence or personality to keep it going. I feel like it’ll be a Bristol Palin situation, two episodes and then the rest of burned off at Saturday 3 AM.

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Hardly a surprise.  However, I still don't think the income from the show was enough to support all those people.  It probably raised their standard of living, but it wasn't their sole source of support.

There were only 96 episodes of Counting On from 2015-2020.  Aside from that weird episode around Easter it has not aired since last September.  Compare that to 227 episodes of 19 Kids and Counting from 2007-2015.  Far fewer married kids and grandchildren to support during that time frame.

Not saying the loss of the show won't hurt, especially with all the legal fees being incurred, but I doubt anyone is going to starve.

My most pressing question is what will happen to this forum now that this is not an active show?  I would hate for it to disappear.

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quarks

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To be fair, eleven seasons of any show that isn't Sixty Minutes or a daytime soap opera is pretty impressive, especially since this is a spinoff of a show that also went several seasons. I doubt the Duggars are thinking that right now, but they might later.

On a related now, I'm guessing that the new owner of Discovery, AT&T, was just looking for excuses to cancel long running shows - pretty much exactly what they did when they took over WB. Josh just happened to provide a very convenient excuse.

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Westiepeach

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11 minutes ago, jennblevins said:

They cancelled Umpteen Kids and Counting before, and that still didn’t get them off the TV.  I’m not holding my breath — I expect they’ll be back soon enough, either under another name, with a reworked focus on Jeremy and Jinger, or perhaps on Discovery+.  

Just what I want to see! J&J in LA! Why wouldn’t we all want to see pocket squares and fountain pens and backs of kids and old books and FOOD! So. Much Food! The Hope I Hold (see what I did there?) is to see J&J’s food on TV! 🙄

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3 hours ago, AryasMum said:

I haven’t watched the show in years, so I really don’t care it’s cancelled. I’m just pissed that Josh has victimized his sisters AGAIN by compromising their primary income - excepting Jill. 

They should have known this was coming. They can all get jobs like the rest of us and stop exploiting their kids 🤷‍♀️

3 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Argument against the spinoff: the Vuolos haven't been putting the girls' faces on IG. Might the Smuggar scandal made them more protective of them and keep them off TV? 

Pretty please? 

Meanwhile Jessa will be exploiting her newest infant as soon as it’s born. 🥲

3 hours ago, SMama said:

I bet Derrick is grateful to have his law degree.

Grateful, sure, but he put in the time and work. None of the others have tried to earn anything.

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1 hour ago, emmawoodhouse said:

That slipshod "Easter" special shot in February was an indicator to me that things weren't quite right between the Duggars and TLC. I think TLC waited on the advertisers and probably got bad feedback forcing TLC's hand 

I suspect a number of things were going on here. The show did have two things going for it before Josh's arrest - 1) it's cheap (apparently around $50,000 to $70,000 per episode, including filming/editing costs) and 2) streaming services needing cheap content.

But it also had a lot going against it even before Josh's arrest - declining ratings/interest, Covid filming issues, and what seems to be an understandable reluctance from some of the Duggarlings not named Jeremy and Jessa to maintain a high social media presence/help promote the show. 

Post the arrest, of course, they also had to deal with advertisers understandably wary of any association with CSA. And although my opinion of the ethics of AT&T and WarnerMedia executives could not possibly be lower, I'm guessing that even a few of them said, wait, that show with lots of kids is now associated with a guy charged with CSA? Hard pass.  

I suspect that the cancellation announcement only took this long because they wanted to make sure they had feedback from the incoming execs and because they wanted to make sure that the Duggars had no grounds to complain about the cancellation and wouldn't be suing.

 

11 minutes ago, Future Cat Lady said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the TLC money was not their main source of income. There is no way, the TLC money can pay for all of these people. If JB didn't have to pay for fancy lawyers right now, I think they would've been financially ok.

 

Completely unsourced rumor had it that the Duggars were paid somewhere between $25,000 to $45,000 per episode for 19 Kids and Counting, and then $15,000 to $20,000 per episode for Counting On. 

I have no idea if these numbers are correct, and I would take them with a grain of salt, but they do seem in line with other reality shows and what we saw on 19 Kids and Counting (building a large new house and a few private planes, no one having to shill on Instagram) versus Counting On (most Duggarlings on the show ending up in tiny houses; seemingly everyone shilling on Instagram).

So even if the TLC money was their main source of income, I think they may have already adjusted to having less of it. 

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emmawoodhouse

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5 minutes ago, MzTori77 said:

Whooeee......Amy sounds ready to spill the beans! She posted an Instagram story asking lawyers - Derick in particular - if NDA’s are still binding after a show has been canceled. Also said something like things are about to get interesting. 🍿

Yeah, we're talking about Amy and her NDA on the Amy thread. 😀

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MunichNark

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Oh my Goodness!!! Counting On's been cancelled?? Seriously? I literally just leapt out of bed to come and post.

Damn, I feel a bit sad because even though I don't post often, I genuinely read here every day - what's going to happen to this Forum? I imagine the Duggars may ramp up their Media presence one way or another so we will find plenty of things to snark on.

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