S14.E08: Broadway Or Bust

[pasdetrois]

I was so excited that we might see some actual beautiful, talented design. But, no, we had to have the same old rushed one-day challenge that doesn't give people enough time to fully execute their designs.

 

The fawning over certain designers is offputting. I thought many of the designs were ugly or thrown together. But...see paragraph above.

 

I liked Swapnil's combination of pink chiffon and Glen plaid. But he does seem preoccupied with the up-swooped bodice thing.

 

Was Lindsay also working in chiffon? Because if so that bodice was never going to stand up like she wanted. That's a rookie error.

 

I like Candice. I like her confidence and polish and she's articulate. You need that to be a successful business person. But her main fabric looked like bad upholstery fabric.

 

Laurie's two fabrics had absolutely no aesthetic relationship to each other. They looked like upholstery fabric and a Pier 1 place mat. Perhaps the heavier fabric was a luxurious silk dupioni, but I was startled at how they didn't complement each other. Plus she ignored the time limit - that was way too much design to tackle in one day.

 

Ashley also made the time-limit error. I'm surprised because I think she knows better.

 

Just when I thought I couldn't be more annoyed with the show, I'm treated to the annoying Zoe countdown clock and fake-bonhomie commercials for that show. I cannot stand that woman.

Edited September 25, 2015 by pasdetrois

[atir]

Mood intrigues me. Whenever I've been to a fabric store, the bolts have been stored/displayed vertically. There is none of this horizontal shelving of fabric unless it's rolls of fabric (usually for drapes or upholstery).

So i get real stabby when I watch the contestants yank rolls of fabric out especially when they really can't tell what the fabric looks like til it's retrieved.

Mood just seems so disorganized. I suppose it's organized by fabric: chiffon here, damask there, satin upstairs, denim downstairs, etc. But then it's all piggly wiggly. The blues aren't together, the lace isn't with other laces etc.

[RealityCowgirl]

Whole runway was 'meh' for me. I'm shocked Laurie stayed but also agree that it's likely her overall better performance (not saying much) and attempt to take a risk that saved her. (Boring gets you nowhere on this show.)

 

Edmund's vest was anything but wearable, but I'm okay with that. It was well made, and it was a "show" piece. I'm so tired of getting 'nice clothes' - if we're lucky - on this show rather than runway-worthy pieces (ESPECIALLY on a challenge based on "fantasy"). I know it's a mix of time and talent, but geez. The last several seasons have been pitiful on that front, even the finalists' collections.

Edited September 25, 2015 by RealityCowgirl

[Aulty]

it was obvious from the very first scene of the episode that Lindsey would be the one auf'd - which was beyond annoying.

 

Iirc we have seen variations of Edmond's coat before on PR, but never mind that, the pants were super! Minus the coat his ensemble looked like something from Taylor Swift's Bad Blood video :-)

Ashley needs to get a grip. I can see her getting auf'd and TG-rescued next week.

 

I'm still firmly on team Kelly.

[Qoass]

If Candice's look was inspired by Captain Hook, Lindsey's was inspired by the crocodile.

 

I was amused to hear the judges spend so much time complimenting the fabrics--  it's a plus to have an actual choice of materials, isn't it?

[Archery]

Why is it so difficult to cut the shorts/skirt longer than you think you need, then hem it once the model tries it on? Every season, EVERY SEASON, a model has to walk the runway with her cheeks and/or crotch hanging out. It seems so preventable. Laurie   didn't even seem apologetic about doing that to her model.

Exactly.  Isn' t this a Sewing 101 rule? Make the thing bigger than you need, because you can always take it in or up?  Even I know that. 

 

If "one day, you're in, and the next, you're out," then Laurie should have gone home, despite Lindsay's boringness.  Laurie did not deliver a wearable garment, which is the basic task.  How in the world would she think that she could use a Swiss cheese material and not put some structure (NOT pasties!!) underneath.  At least Lindsay's was a wearable garment (even if it was again dull as dishwater and made the model look like she had a roll of fat around her middle).  It's like when, on a cooking show, one chef delivers a dish that is uninspired, and another delivers a dish that is raw inside.  The inedible dish fails the challenge and should get the boot.  I don't usually feel sorry for the models (it's their job), but Laurie's was so humiliated. She could not keep from trying to close that jacket. 

 

I think Candice and Edmond really stood out on both concept and execution.  I didn't see the love for Kelly's, but good for her on the gloves. 

 

Swapnil's getting a little arrogant to me.  He was so shocked that his "100%" was only safe; like it's a given that he's so much better than everyone else. 

 

I liked Lindsay's talking heads, and I'm sad to see her terrific vocabulary go. 

[poeticlicensed]

I knew Lindsey was a goner once they said she was on the bottom. I figured if Laurie or Ashley got the auf, Tim might use his save, especially if it was Ashley. 

 

I thought it was weird that the judges said how great the runway show was, then proceeded to slam just about every design. Even Edmund with hsi pants got criticized. 

[Alison]

I had flashbacks to Emilio Sosa's bikini made of washers and string when Laurie's model came out.

Gee, you get a fabric full of holes and are surprised that it's open in spots? I hope that model got extra pay for exposing everything.

Granted, I was dozing throughout the entire episode, but did Laurie not anticipate her model's boobs to be exposed in that top? Did she pick that Swiss cheese of a fabric and think the pasties wouldn't be exposed? The mind, it boggles.

[proserpina65]

Laurie should've been sent home for that abomination she sent down the runway.  Wtf were the judges thinking?  Lindsey's look was not nearly as bad.

[tv echo]

I agree with Candice's win.  Wow, the judges really seem to hate Lindsay.  Her designs are mediocre, but I didn't think her design last night was the worst.  I thought both Laurie's design (with her swiss cheese bodice) and Ashley's design (with her rolled rag bodice) were worse.  But I knew Ashley was safe because she's done other designs which were great and the judges love her, so I expected Laurie to be eliminated.

[proserpina65]

Laurie's, if she had more time to execute it to her model's proportions, would have been sophisticated and sexy.

 

No.  Just no.  There was no way to make that combination of elements sophisticated.  Hot pants and a see-thru tube top will always scream 'hooker'.  The jacket had potential, but not paired with the other parts of that outfit; maybe over top of something like Edmond's look, it could've worked, but Laurie isn't capable of producing anything that good, to judge by what she's sent down the runway so far.

[Wootini]

I was okay with Laurie not going home because even though it was a hideous mess, she has done better work in the past, and Runway is one of those shows where they take that into account at elimination time. Lindsay has been kind of dull and boring week after week. She often makes pretty dresses, but they're not anything that special. Also, I'm just glad she's gone so we don't have to sit through any more episodes of her complaining about how the judges just don't get her aesthetic.

 

I really didn't have a favorite outfit this week. I guess Candace and Kelly's were good, but nobody's was so amazing I was rooting for it to win. Edmond's top and pants were nicely-done, but I could not get behind that poofy vest/coat. It just didn't go with the rest of the outfit. And I liked the bodice of Swapnil's gown, but it looked like the skirt was an afterthought. Which is weird, because he started with that, and it clearly wasn't an afterthought, but it just didn't go with the bodice, I thought.

 

Oh, and as an aside, because I don't sew, I've never had occasion to go to Mood before, but I needed a yard of black elastic to make a belt for a halloween costume, so I went there! It actually doesn't have a storefront, It's on the third floor of a building (and the fourth, which is the upstairs). I didn't explore at all, because the elastic was right around the corner from the entrance and the registers, so I didn't have any reason to wander. And I totally felt like some kind of impostor even just being there! :) I did recognize a couple employees that I saw when I watched last night's episode. Oh, but there was no sign of Swatch. I guess they just bring him out for the show when they're taping. The store also is a lot more cramped than it appears on TV. It looks so spacious on TV! Oh, and the worst part? They didn't have wide enough elastic, so it was a wasted trip!

[Qoass]

 

I didn't have any reason to wander.

 

One should never need a reason to wander...

[roctavia]

I'm okay with the auf and the win this week... though I don't think any of the looks were that awesome.

 

I liked Ashley's concept and color story, but she didn't manage her time well and it was obvious in the execution. But I still like her, so I'm glad she didn't get the boot this week.

 

Candice's look was okay, but definitely heading into pirate costume territory... and the boobs were droopy and sad.

 

I like Edmund's look a lot. I didn't mind his puffy vest thing, it was attention getting without being ridiculous looking. And his pants and top were very well made and fit.... his top would have been a good one for the bra challenge a couple of weeks back... he didn't seem to have any trouble constructing a supportive, well fitting garment this time around.

 

Swapnil's top was interesting, but what didn't work for me was how the skirt and top connected... the top fell like flaps over the skirt, it looked unfinished to me... or almost like a painter's smock or something. I can totally see why it wasn't in the top just on that detail alone.

 

Laurie... oh Laurie... that top was terrible. How hard would it have been to put some sort of bandeau of a nude/white fabric underneath? The top would have still looked cool, yet offered the model some support and coverage. Those shorts though... damn, here's all the booty! She's lucky she didn't get the auf this week.

 

Lindsey's green dress was nothing special, and looked unfinished and unflattering to me.

 

This runway was not so impressive.... I don't know what Heidi was talking about.

[Pepper Mostly]

Whole runway was 'meh' for me. I'm shocked Laurie stayed but also agree that it's likely her overall better performance (not saying much) and attempt to take a risk that saved her. (Boring gets you nowhere on this show.)

 

Edmund's vest was anything but wearable, but I'm okay with that. It was well made, and it was a "show" piece. I'm so tired of getting 'nice clothes' - if we're lucky - on this show rather than runway-worthy pieces (ESPECIALLY on a challenge based on "fantasy"). I know it's a mix of time and talent, but geez. The last several seasons have been pitiful on that front, even the finalists' collections.

I loved Edmond's vest. It was supposed to be conjure up night and I could see that. I'm glad to see him really working this opportunity. How many times have we on these forums bemoaned the lack of preparedness of the contestants? And then there's Edmond. He's been waiting for years and is READY. I've really been appreciating him. No drama, no sniping, no tears. You do you, Edmond.

 

I'm sorry to see Lindsay go, actually. She was fated not to fare well--her designs are clean, sporty, minimal--not something that usually wins the favor of La Garcia. I always enjoyed Lindsay's dry wit and insightful remarks. The footage of her ahd Kelly giggling like a couple of middle schoolers was adorable. Godspeed, Lindsay.

 

Didn't they have something like 8 months to prepare for Fashion Week in season 1? Now the have what--three weeks? No wonder the quality is lacking.

 

Ashley will totally be saved. Just when I'm getting sick of her. Who compared her to a popular contestant on the Biggest Loser, who everyone loved and supported at first, but who became whiny and tiresome? Kudos to you, whoever you are. You have called it!

[poeticlicensed]

Candice's look was okay, but definitely heading into pirate costume territory... and the boobs were droopy and sad.

 

I kept having visions of the infamous Seinfeld "puffy shirt". 

[leighdear]

Speaking of Lindsey's design, who was the designer that kept making necklines that came up and over the model's chin? I can't remember her name, but I immediately flashed back to her signature look when Lindsey's design came out.

Michelle, in season 11.  She did some in the challenges, and her Fashion Week show was full of strangulation necklines.  Scroll down for her "winning" runway show....

http://tomandlorenzo.com/2013/04/project-runway-bring-me-the-head-of-nina-garcia/

[azshadowwalker]

No way Lindsay should have gone home over Laura's porno outfit. OMG.  And I'm sorry Candice's outfit was only "safe" for me.  Did you notice the guest (whose name I missed but she's a peer model of Heidi's) kept looking at the other judges like "what are you all smoking?" -- she absolutely could not see the love for Candice's outfit...

 

Oh and what was with the waste of time over Kelley's outfit?  She had Immunity!!!

 

 

I'm not sure why Kelley's immunity mattered. Should people with immunity not be considered for the next win if their work is judged to be among the best?  Should the designers not try to win again if they have immunity?

 

I do agree that Laurie was by far the worst out there. If they were judging just on the designs in front of them, she should have gone. If she was really worthy of staying for body-of-work reasons, Tim could save her. 

 

I loved Candice's design. It was the most interesting one out there for me. I loved that it wasn't a skirt. I loved the way the jacket was cut to be off the shoulder. I loved the layered effect of the jacket. I couldn't wear the leather bustier, but if I were younger, I'd wear the entire outfit in a heartbeat. It referred to the inspiration material while still being cool to look at and wearable. I didn't particularly see anything off about the guest judge's reactions to it, either.

 

I loved Edmond's cloud jacket. Without it, I think the design would have been very expected and boring. It wasn't something I'd wear, but I liked looking at it and I thought it looked good on the model.

 

Although she didn't have the worst thing out there (in fact, I'd say not only Laurie, but also Ashley had worse designs), Lindsey was not long for this show and the design was really unflattering. I wouldn't complain about her losing this week if that monstrosity Laurie sent down the runway wasn't such an affront to all things good.

Edited September 25, 2015 by azshadowwalker

[greenbean]

Lindsay's aufing was not a surprise to me. Boring is the biggest no-no to Heidi and the judges. Laurie's outfit was a mess, but it was something.

 

I was more shocked that Swapnil was not in the top, and once again Edmond gets so much praise. There was a bit where Heidi said she liked him, and Zac sarcastically replied "I know".

[auntlada]

Michelle, in season 11.  She did some in the challenges, and her Fashion Week show was full of strangulation necklines.  Scroll down for her "winning" runway show....

http://tomandlorenzo.com/2013/04/project-runway-bring-me-the-head-of-nina-garcia/

Melissa in season 10 had a lit of really tall necklines also, I think.

[KLovestoShop]

I didn't get to the channel on time and missed who the guest judge was.  Who was she?  Regardless, I didn't like her at all.  She came off as snooty and not very nice to anyone.  To me, she seemed like those rich doyennes who sniff their noses at those of us who are regarded as the unwashed masses.  

 

I did like the color of Ashley's creation, but the outcome was bad.  To call Laurie's top a placemat from Pier One is pure genius.  

[Muffyn]

I know they say that they judge based on what is sent down the runway and not on what the person has presented all season but they clearly did not do this for this show.  Lindsay's was not great but Laurie's creation was on a level all it's own.  Has there ever been a worse outfit on that runway????  It was poorly conceived, poorly fitted and poorly sewn.  The model's privates were exposed two ways.  It had an ice skater skirt.  For me it rivals, Vincent's cardboard tube dress (season 3?) that he just threw stuff on for decoration and the model couldn't walk in.  I don't think he went home for it either.

You may recall that Vincent's paper tube dress really "turned [him] on".  I'm sure Laurie's outfit would turn him on too, just for different reasons.  

 

I'll let myself out.

[Aging Goth]

My take in this episode...

I also felt Candice deserved the win but I have a lot of problems with her arrogance.  However, the outfit was well done and looked fantastic.  I also liked Ed's outfit as well but Kelly's outfit to me was just good choice of material and not a great outfit.  I felt either Swapnil of Merlene should have had the #3 spot tonight.

 

As for Swapnil's outfit, it is just different material-same silhouette.

 

Laurie's offering was all kinds of awful (which I knew would be the moment she said "Hot Pants") but she at least had ideas.   Lindsey has been in the bottom before for her boring outfits and that sewing class project she sent down the runway was an express ticket home.  If you don't try, you don't win.  She didn't try and she went home.

[Rhetorica]

This was a bust...

[slothgirl]

I really didn't have a favorite outfit this week. I guess Candace and Kelly's were good, but nobody's was so amazing I was rooting for it to win. Edmond's top and pants were nicely-done, but I could not get behind that poofy vest/coat. It just didn't go with the rest of the outfit.

I think Edmond's puffy coat could have been fabulous in a silver grey or perhaps a muted stone blue-grey. Or even a deep navy or prussian blue. It was just too purple. If he had made it slightly less all-over puffy, a smidge longer and in a more neutral color, he might have knocked it out of the park.

 

I liked Ashley's concept and color story, but she didn't manage her time well and it was obvious in the execution. But I still like her, so I'm glad she didn't get the boot this week.

 

Candice's look was okay, but definitely heading into pirate costume territory... and the boobs were droopy and sad.

 

Laurie... oh Laurie... that top was terrible. How hard would it have been to put some sort of bandeau of a nude/white fabric underneath? The top would have still looked cool, yet offered the model some support and coverage. Those shorts though... damn, here's all the booty! She's lucky she didn't get the auf this week.

 

I liked the direction Ashlye's was going, but it got away from her. Too much fabric

 

Laurie's maybe should have had that silver swiss cheese stuff layered over the other fabric somehow to show it off. The fact that she was expecting the model to have nothing but pasties on was reprehensible. If one of the holes in the fabric happened to surround her breast so that it poked through the hole, it would be downright pornographic, pasties or no. The level of indecency Lifetime is willing to let air this season is atrocious.

 

Candice's boobs: THANK YOU! For all the praise, I was wondering if I was the only one who saw how ugly that dress made the model's chest.

 

I loved Edmond's vest. It was supposed to be conjure up night and I could see that. I'm glad to see him really working this opportunity. How many times have we on these forums bemoaned the lack of preparedness of the contestants? And then there's Edmond. He's been waiting for years and is READY. I've really been appreciating him. No drama, no sniping, no tears. You do you, Edmond.

 

I'm sorry to see Lindsay go, actually. She was fated not to fare well--her designs are clean, sporty, minimal--not something that usually wins the favor of La Garcia. I always enjoyed Lindsay's dry wit and insightful remarks. The footage of her ahd Kelly giggling like a couple of middle schoolers was adorable. Godspeed, Lindsay.

 

Ashley will totally be saved. Just when I'm getting sick of her. Who compared her to a popular contestant on the Biggest Loser, who everyone loved and supported at first, but who became whiny and tiresome? Kudos to you, whoever you are. You have called it!

 

I do love seeing Edmond being prepared and professional. There's no excuse for anyone NOT to be as ready as he is. I was confused by his comment that he'd never made pants before though... did he just mean for a challenge? It would be absurd for him to be as prepared as he is and NOT have practiced fitting pants.

 

Yes, I'm sure the save will be used on Ashley. Although I can see it being used on any of the top 4 if they go before the others (Ashley, Swapnil, Candice, Edmond) However, I think the only one who is at all likely of being eliminated before the final 4 is Ashley.

 

I hope Lindsey has a good career designing ready to wear for a fashion house. I think she is not creative and fashion forward enough to be a lead designer, but she has skills at making clothes that people might actually wear (sometimes) and there's a market for that and job possibilities. If she is stuck on being a name designer, I think this might have been a good wake-up call.

 

I'm a little tired that someone's designs that are a little more subtle are immediately considered matronly, boring and/or mediocre.  Restrained designs can be sophisticated and flattering to the wearer, and none of the designs on this Project Runway were that (hardly ever are they that because the ridiculous fashionista judges on the panel wouldn't allow for it).

 

the much berated Lindsey ... she is designing for a real woman and not immovable sticks.

Yes.

Edited September 25, 2015 by slothgirl

[Freckledbruh]

I liked Candace's outfit but still have issues with her arrogance.  Edmond's outfit was nice even with the vest/jacket.  The short dress on Kelly's outfit looked puckered and cheapened the overall look.  Honestly, Laurie should have been let go because that was awful.  Pasties, super short skirt (or shorts?) and that poorly constructed jacket.  Just no.  

[Primetimer]

A Broadway-inspired challenge generates a dog's breakfast of a runway. Swatch what happens! ...Oops, wrong network.

Read the story

[Feline Queen]

So Tim suggests that Ashley remove the tulle at the bottom of her outfit because it looked like it was decorated with a shower puff, but  then Edmond gets praised for having an entire vest made of something similar. And the same hypocrisy was displayed at the runway show when the judges criticized Kelly's outfit for being too much like a costume - while Candice's winning outfit was even more like one. I thought the challenge was to be inspired by the play, not create something for Party City's 2015 Halloween collection.

[ratgirlagogo]

 

That f$&king Rachel Zoe countdown clock was on screen for the entire episode. Ugh!!

 

I watched the second showing and did not have to endure any Rachel Zoe clock...thank God.

To add to my annoyance.  Generally I always watch/DVR the second showing since there are schedule conflicts with the first showing.  But this week, for once, I got to record the first showing, meaning I actually got to watch the show on Thursday.  And for the ENTIRE fucking thing that huge countdown clock is covering up the upper right hand corner of the screen!   GRRRRR!

 

I felt bad for Lindsay but honestly I'm just surprised it took them this long to auf her - they did NOT like her.  As opposed to:

 

I was more shocked that Swapnil was not in the top, and once again Edmond gets so much praise. There was a bit where Heidi said she liked him, and Zac sarcastically replied "I know".

 

 

 

KETZEL, ON 25 SEPT 2015 - 12:18 AM, SAID:

Speaking of Lindsey's design, who was the designer that kept making necklines that came up and over the model's chin? I can't remember her name, but I immediately flashed back to her signature look when Lindsey's design came out.

leighdear:Michelle, in season 11.  She did some in the challenges, and her Fashion Week show was full of strangulation necklines.  

 

 

auntlada:Melissa in season 10 had a lit of really tall necklines also, I think

Melissa is the one I thought of right away because it was pretty much her only distinguishing trademark thing.  Michelle had a bigger bag of tricks, no matter what you may think of them. 

Melissa's looks:

https://www.google.com/search?q=project+runway+season+10+melissa&espv=2&biw=1440&bih=775&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0CCoQsARqFQoTCOu6_rnfksgCFYWpHgodSYQJOA

Edited September 25, 2015 by ratgirlagogo

[Grandma Saracen]

Ashley's was a hot mess that not even Aube could save.

 

Candice's fabric was beautiful, and even though I didn't like the neckline on the top, I'm glad the judges went for it. I liked the meaning behind it... 

 

Edmund - I happened to like his cloud.

 

Kelly - "I have a bedazzle problem". This whole ep was very,very quotable for her. She's kinda great. Pretty green garment, and nice styling, too.

 

Lindsey - her design is too literal for me, she had to choose 'peter pan' green? :/  I found her personality appealing, and her designs boring, but it seemed like she had a good level of self-awareness. 

Laurie's was fugly even in the workroom. I like her pesronality well enough, but haven't liked her clothes since RttR. A little fussy. The silver circles could've been made into something interesting, but this was really bad. I would've sent her home. 

 

Merline to Kelly  - "I want to keep TG in your fanny pack". Seems to me she doesn't have a leg to stand on, talking about Ashley. I don't like the cage on the dress any more than I did on her bra. She's not hardcore at all. The lace is pretty, though.

 

Swapnil - Oh, hello, redemptive arc! I can see you from a mile away. Ah, well, the middle. It's okay, I wasn't a big fan of his dress. 

 

Yay, Mood! <3 Swatch <3 The THs are for the most part surprisingly honest, introspective, funny, and confessional this season.

When he went into the workroom very seriously, I thought TG was going to say Blake was coming back!

But then he was actually giving helpful critiques -  it's so good getting rid of all of that chaff.  "beat back the old lady". heh.

[KateeBar]

All I got out of this week was - I adored Posen's purple suit, and man do I miss the season 1/2/3 designers SO MUCH.

I can't believe they called that a fantastic runway. The judges must be contractually obligated to say that because that was a whole lot of hot mess up there, sprinkled with a few interesting ideas. And pretty colors.

[Beden]

 

Gee, you get a fabric full of holes and are surprised that it's open in spots? I hope that model got extra pay for exposing everything.

Granted, I was dozing throughout the entire episode, but did Laurie not anticipate her model's boobs to be exposed in that top? Did she pick that Swiss cheese of a fabric and think the pasties wouldn't be exposed? The mind, it boggles.

Didn't the sales person at Mood say that silver/lace/hole fabric was over $100/yard? Okay, it was clearly...uh...misused last night but I wonder why it was so much? What was it made of? What mill produced it? Seriously--why so much?

 

And, yeah, even if it had been lined, that tube top still would have sucked.

[Surrealist]

Runway:

Swapnil: i liked it

Ashley: ugh, meh

Candice: was okay

Kelly: kind of liked hers, love the green

Laurie: ugh, no

Merline: ok? Not sure. Kind of sloppy in back

Lindsey: basic, pageanty

Edmond:. I liked this look

I think I liked Edmond's the best though I think Kelly's green vest would look better over it

Lindsey may be lucky Laurie's was worse?

 

I liked Kelly's green vest/jacket/flyaway/whatever. I'd wear it. I'm not much of a dress/skirt wearing woman, but I think it would have looked great paired with Edmond's black cigarette pants. I didn't mind Edmond's blue poof. Like Nina said (oh boy), it was dramatic. Since they were supposed to be inspired by a play, the clothing's supposed to be a little dramatic looking, no?

 

I couldn't believe that Swapnil's look was safe. I would have liked to have seen that look win. I didn't mind Candace's, but it looked as if it would be uncomfortable to wear (not that that was a requirement), except that Laura's was hideous. I knew that Lindsey's auf was coming, but in this episode, I wished there had been a double elimination. Laura's model looked embarrassed to be wearing that mess. I would have felt the same way too.

 

The Tim Gunn Save for Ashley is just around the corner. I can feel it. It looked as if she had been working on that dress while she was sleeping. I was waiting for Gordon Ramsay to show up as a guest judge, look her in the eye and ask "You've given up, haven't you?" I get where she was trying to go with that dress, but the execution was pretty bad.

Edited September 25, 2015 by Surrealist

[Muffyn]

Swapnil - Oh, hello, redemptive arc! I can see you from a mile away. Ah, well, the middle. It's okay, I wasn't a big fan of his dress. 

I agree on the redemption arc.  I think they want him to slide more than one week before giving him redemption.  He was consistently in the top three.  We only had one episode in which he was suddenly a problem.  So now we see him move to the middle.  Then he can move back up and possibly win based on supposedly incorporating the feedback from the judges.  

[Empress1]

I do love seeing Edmond being prepared and professional. There's no excuse for anyone NOT to be as ready as he is. I was confused by his comment that he'd never made pants before though... did he just mean for a challenge? It would be absurd for him to be as prepared as he is and NOT have practiced fitting pants.

 

...

 

I hope Lindsey has a good career designing ready to wear for a fashion house. I think she is not creative and fashion forward enough to be a lead designer, but she has skills at making clothes that people might actually wear (sometimes) and there's a market for that and job possibilities. If she is stuck on being a name designer, I think this might have been a good wake-up call.

He said he hadn't made them for a challenge yet and wanted to so the judges could see his construction skills - which he has, because the fit on those pants was great.

 

I agree with you re: Lindsey. I haven't seen anything from her that I couldn't get at Macy's. I thought that on Road to the Runway and I never stopped thinking it. IMO she makes clothes, she doesn't design. And you're right, there is a market for that - a few contestants on this show have had jobs designing for other houses. This dress was just really flat, despite the pretty color. It gave the model the appearance of a roll of fat on her stomach, that kind of neck is terrible for a woman with "a chest," as they kept saying, and the back was uneven.

 

I didn't like Candice's look at all - I'd have put Swapnil in the top over her. I was really surprised his look was just safe.

 

Laurie. Girl. GIRL. When she said "coat, hot pants, and tube top" I was already cringing, and then I saw it coming together ( ... well, kind of) and I was just shocked. Individually the components were awful. The shorts left the model's ass hanging out and the tube top was completely open - which, of course it was, it was made of circles. Why wouldn't she line it? And that coat was insane. I hated the sleeves and the weird mesh shoulders ... that was a complete mess, top to bottom.

[TresGatos]

Coco Rocha was a judge on the Naomi Campbell modeling competition for one season (so was Lydia Hearst - Chris Hardwick's fiancée) and I really like her on that. She looked so angry that Laurie would send a model down the catwalk with all her T & A  hanging out. 

[BirdLBS]

I was confused that Lindsey seemed confused that her model had a "chest" which would ruin her backless, flow-y dress that she designed.  She had the same model for every challenge but one.  It seemed to me that she should of designed for her model's build.   Do they know what models they get before they start designing?

[farmgal4]

Laurie should've been sent home for that abomination she sent down the runway.  Wtf were the judges thinking?  Lindsey's look was not nearly as bad.

I agree 100%. I'm about done with this show, it's become so ridiculous.

[yeswedo]

Hi all, as annoying as the countdown clock for Rachel Zoe was, let's keep it out of the episode thread. Feel free to discuss in the Off-Topic thread. 

[Diane Mars]

Some thoughts :

 

I loved Edmund's look (OK, not the "coat"). Those pants were amazing, and that's the pants I'm desperately looking for since almost 20 years ! I know how to cut and sew, but I'm bad in tailoring pants. I really loved the top too. And I love to wear "it". Yes, I wear "it"... beacause It's actually the "bra" of my favourite Speedo bath suite ! Ok, not 100% the same, but...

 

I liked Swapnil's, but I think that he should have choosen another color for the skirt, and it could have been a potential stunning piece ! That "petit rat" pale pink was... boring and quite mumsy... and taking the whole  "down" (sorry, I don't have the vocabulary to explain it better) instead of the piece of art it could have been.

 

I hated lindsey's, because of the "gravity much too much attracted" her look makes look the boobs* of her model like if they were a part of her waist (*Or nipples. Or chest... Or ? Which one is the good word to use in that case ?)

 

I understand why Laurie was preferred over Lindsay, but... Come on ! Your start idea was great, and you should have focussed a little bit more on the top (why not lining it with your other textile ? It would have been great, IMHO) and the bottom of your outfit, before taking time for the third piece.

Edited September 25, 2015 by Diane Mars

[mansonlamps]

Is it really that hard to design and make gloves? Look at Zac's face when he hears that Kelly made the gloves. You would have thought he had just been told she designed Princess Diana's wedding dress. I mean wouldn't you just trace your hand and arm, cut a little large around it, cut another one, sew them together, turn inside out and voila! Disclaimer: not a designer, maybe it's really complicated.

[akr]

Hands and arms are not all the same size! I thought she got lucky that the fairly tight fitting gloves she made based on her own hand actually fit her model's hands and arms well, too. (I'm a woman who wears a women's extra large/men's large glove. Many, many women's hands seem barely half the size of mine). I would guess that models with long limbs would also tend to have long fingers, but who knows. Aside from that, though, she just winged it, tracing her own hand and sewing, and it worked pretty well, so apparently it's not all that complicated - but I doubt they're insisting on quite the perfect fit as compared to, say, Edmond's pants (which fit beautifully but I absolutely hate pants that come up that high). 

[ratgirlagogo]

Swatch looked to be getting pretty grey in the muzzle (as you can see in the photo above the recap). ;(

[Diane Mars]

Gloves are difficult to make... And yes, she was lucky that her ahnds and her model's hands were pretty similar... If you make "real" gloves (and there are diverse otions, depending of the kind of gloves you want to make), you normally have one piece for the top and the bottom, with FOUR fingers -the thumb being cut apart and sewn later, sometimes, you also have a band of ~1cm width, which is sewn starting from the top of the little finger and finishing at the bottom of the forefinger. And then you add the thumb.

 

an example, with an "easy" model : http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/8892/patterns-for-gorgeous-gloves ... And a more complicated one : https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1YkOMv8Nkw1eU1Qal9fVnpJYlU/view

Edited September 25, 2015 by Diane Mars

[candall]

Seems like Kelly was in the top three for her fabric choice.  Ooh, look, shiny spangles. . .winner!  (Did anyone catch Heidi's costume at the Emmys?  Yowza.)

 

I liked Candice's dress with the tight tiny bustier.  The main thing I appreciated was combining the black & roses material with the black leather.  I'm tired of always mixing materials as disparate as possible--e.g. pink chiffon with glen plaid wool.(?)  

 

Candice's model did look a little bit like a serving wench at the local grog shoppe, but, you know, Peter Pan, pirates.  If you're going to trot out a grog wench, this was the time.  Someone's design was inspired by the artwork outside the powder room at the theater, for pity's sake.

 

I think Laurie really owed it to her model to take two minutes and tack the front edges of the jacket to the tube top.  That one little droopy breast with the nipple patch was obviously not part of the "vision," but it was predictable that the judges would be snooping under there.  The Zac Posen probe would hit that like catnip.

[designing1]

 

Coco Rocha was a judge on the Naomi Campbell modeling competition for one season (so was Lydia Hearst - Chris Hardwick's fiancée) and I really like her on that. She looked so angry that Laurie would send a model down the catwalk with all her T & A  hanging out.

 

From Wiki:

 

Rocha has been a devout Jehovah's Witness since childhood, and in a 2013 interview stated that she still participates with Jehovah's Witnesses in their model of Jesus' preaching work of going preaching door-to-door to share the Bible with others. She calls herself "a Christian first and a model second", and says that due to her faith she will not pose nude, with cigarettes, nationalistic emblems or religious icons.

 

Though for sure, one doesn't need any sort of religious convictions to be angered by that atrocity Laurie produced. Frankly, I'd have had no problem eliminating her based on her fabric choices alone. Each was awful in its own way, and none of them went together.

[candall]

Is it really that hard to design and make gloves? Look at Zac's face when he hears that Kelly made the gloves. You would have thought he had just been told she designed Princess Diana's wedding dress.

If those gloves had been something other than spandex, they would have warranted all that appreciation. 

 

I remember sitting in church as a little girl and examining my white cotton gloves when I was bored with the sermon.  There were little triangles, like reverse darts, on the sides of each finger so they could taper towards the tips.  Muy complicated.  Plus, long evening gloves like that need buttons at the wrist so you can get your hands in and still have a smooth fit.

 

I don't know why the model felt the need to peel the gloves off--it pretty much ruined any illusion that they were anything but two pieces of stretchy material stitched together.

[The Cake is a Pie]

Really, Heidi? Coocoo Rawsha?

 

Nina's WTF?!?!?! look when Heidi said she liked the idea that Laurie was going for was everything. If she had been drinking something, it would have been a spit-take. When Laurie said she was making hotpants, my face went )^: then she also said tube top and I was like D^8. Honey, no. Just... no. She totally deserved to go this week over Lindsay, but really, Lindsay was on borrowed time anyway. I think Nina has hated every single thing she's done, she was just lucky every other week that someone did something worse. She broke one of the cardinal rules: don't bore Nina.

[dgpolo]

I don't understand how Ashley got Aube's measurements wrong -again-? Wasn't her top for Aube too small/wouldn't meet in the back on a previous challenge? why wouldn't she remember that and cut/sew accordingly?

I thought they got the models measurements beforehand so they can set the sewing dummy for fit. Isn't that how it works?

Laurie's looked soo bad, they really should have sent both of them home.

I think the guest judge kept forgetting these looks were inspired by a play and were supposed to be dramatical/fantastical etc.

I did like Candice's look which is different for me, I think it was -supposed- to make you think -pirate- since it was inspired by a pirate. It did not read 'costume' to me as I have never seen a pirate where anything like that.

I like Edmund's as well, without his 'cloud' it was just another pants and top set, with it there was drama, at the least, the drama of the reveal as Nina was trying to say and as someone upthread mentioned as being like a drag queens reveal.

[pinguina]

I was disappointed by the runway also -  They finally get to Mood and this is what happens.

Agree that:

Candice's looked like a pirate (and with the leather, everyone knew that it was hers!)

Kelly's looked like something a madam in a bordello could possibly wear (do not know this from personal experience, but I've seen westerns!)

I liked Edmond's - I thought the purple puffy thing was cute!

Ashley - so disappointed!  But could see what she wanted to make-

 

One thing Ashley said (something like), "I ran out of time."  The JUDGES agreed withe her!! At least two said that if there had been more time given they could see her design being great.  THEY said it - NOT ENOUGH TIME!!  Yet they still complain about the lack of "clean" lines, bad seams, etc  It's all about the time!!!! OR the lack of it when all the designers are given is one day.  And let's face it, that one day usually translates to something like 14 - 16 hours.  If they had 12 hours one day and 12 the next - that would be 24 hours (ONE DAY).  I just hate that because of the time limit the work suffers, maybe having a few more hours to play with the material or design would make a difference from bad to mediocre to good to fabulous.  It just bothers me so much, they (the judges) want something good or great but are not willing to give them the tools (in this case: time) to complete it.  It reminds me of my job - great results but no support/respect/acknowledgement.   Sorry - rant over.