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    The Starling City Times: News and Media about Arrow

    Arrow reviewer Chris King was a guest on this podcast by Nick Hogan (also a Tell-Tale TV writer), and they talked about Arrow (among other things)... Episode 10 - iZombie, The 100, Arrow, Favorite Movies of 2019, Field of Dreams, Sports Talk (Guest Chris King) An episode of Nick's Infinite Playlist By Nick Hogan June 24, 2019 https://anchor.fm/nicks-infinite-playlist/episodes/Episode-10---iZombie--The-100--Arrow--Favorite-Movies-of-2019--Field-of-Dreams--Sports-Talk-Guest-Chris-King-e4edk9 -- Chris King thought that S7 of Arrow was a "mixed bag" but was "more positive for me than negative, for sure." He liked the prison story arc with Oliver because it "explored similar story beats but in a new way," and he liked the reintroduction of Bronze Tiger. He "loved" the flashforward story and thought it was "terrific," with Blackstar turning out to be Mia Smoak, with Connor Hawke's being Diggle's adopted son, and with William as well. -- CK would be "cool" with S8 "mostly taking place" in flashforwards and whatever Oliver's doing with the Monitor: "That, to me, would ideally be what Season 8's about, because, no offense to the other characters, but I - I - this show to me has always been Oliver, Diggle and Felicity... I've enjoyed Rene, what he's brought. I've enjoyed what Dinah's brought. Um, sometimes in - especially in Season 6, which, the less said about Season 6 of Arrow, the better, there was, um, very plot over character writing, that I think really threw the new team under the bus. Um, too, I think some of the fandom hasn't gotten over it. Um, I have, for the most part. I still think Dinah can be a little indignant sometimes. I still think, uh, you know, Rene can be a little, um - what's the word I'm looking for here? He basically, like - I don't know, he doesn't necessarily take the fall all the time when he should. Um, but overall, I really enjoy them as characters. And I'd like to see them continue to be a presence, but in the future storyline. To me, Star City, now that Oliver's gone and Felicity's gone from the present storyline, I don't really need more of that. I don't need to see how Team Arrow continues to defend Star City, um, in their - uh, in their absence, because really - I mean, the Season 7 finale, which I personally thought was the best episode of the season. Um, I thought that worked in some ways as a series finale. Um, and obviously it felt that way because Emily Bett Rickards is leaving, which I think is - personally, I think it's a huge loss to the show, but I also understand her needing to - wanting to pursue other things. She's been on the show for seven years. I also know that the Season 8 renewal was kind of late, and I think some actors made other plans. Um, and I think the way they capped Felicity's storyline was really beautiful and earned and just really, like, wonderful what they did with her and Oliver and Mia, and then with her going with the Monitor at the end. Um, I just think that really honored their relationship, which has been such a huge part of the show. You know, it's been those two, and it's been, uh, Diggle and Oliver, and, um, Felicity and Diggle, and then for a while there too, Oliver and Thea. Like, I think those are really some of the core relationships." -- CK: "My hopes for Season 8 are that we - we kinda - I don't know, is that Oliver, despite being on his own mission - you know, that he doesn't - that he doesn't get completely cut off from everyone else. Like, I still want to see Oliver and Diggle interacting. Um, I need Oliver at some point to interact with Mia, with 2040 Mia. Um, 'cause like he's dead but he's not. I can't see the show killing him off in Crisis On Infinite Earths like that... I feel like he's earned, um - he's earned at least a happier ending. It doesn't need to be, like, you know, happily ever after. But everything he's gone through, he doesn't deserve to die. And I frankly think that's the boring story choice for him, you know. As I mentioned earlier when we were talking about Liv, about how Oliver's also going to one who does the sacrifice play, um, it gets, you know, it gets old watching him suffer after awhile. And I think, what is this seven, eight year journey worth if he doesn't somehow end up in a better place than when he started, especially with everything he's gone through with Felicity and Diggle? Um, yeah, my thoughts are that we'll hopefully get - if I'm predicting for what I'm hoping to see, or at least giving you my wish list - is that we get a lot of Star City 2040 and that we get Oliver, you know, working with the Monitor." -- CK: "It's 10 episodes... I don't even know what the Big Bad would be. You know, we know Crisis is coming, but like that's gotta be saved for the crossover. So, does Oliver, like, fight, like, some type of, like, you know, villain of the week, of the Big Bad of Crisis every week? ... I really don't know what's going to happen with Arrow, and that is really is what's got me so excited about this final season.... The fact that it's gonna be new and it's gonna be different, um, and I think it's kind of a cool way to - you know, the show in recent years has really been a lot about legacy and what Oliver's legacy is, and I think in a lot of ways it's his daughter, and it's his - it's this team that they've now cultivated. Um, and so I think not focusing on them would be a mistake, um, in the final season. And I think focusing on them and also, you know, giving us the conclusion to what Oliver Queen's journey is, and hopefully that conclusion is not just death. Um, that's really the only things I can predict and that I really think and hope we'll see." -- Nick Hogan: "I've just got a lot of, uh, just genuine curiosity going into Season 8. I enjoyed Season 7 for the most part. It was definitely better than Season 6... We won't speak of Season 6 any more." CK: "The Civil War storyline between Team Arrow in Season 6, dude, Jesus God... Those reviews were pure torture." NH: "They got rid of Curtis halfway through this year, which I am not going to complain about." -- NH: "What's got me really curious is, you know, Emily Bett Rickards is gone. So, you know, what do they do? Then, I wondered about - they've got this gravestone for Oliver in 2019, but did he really die in 2019? Or is that their way of explaining where he went? Uh, you know, 'cause he goes off with the Monitor and disappears, and they say he dies in 2019, but does he die? ... The rumor was that his original plan was to end Arrow after Season 7 and then just come back for the crossovers. And so I wondered if this was a way to do that, is to kind of be an immortal crime fighter, to maybe like replace the Monitor, or do something like that, where his life becomes eternal and not of this world. Um, and that would be an easy way to put him in 2040 for a little while." CK: "Yeah. That's a good call... And also it makes sense where Felicity goes... Because, I mean, there's a lot of, where does she go there at the end? I don't need the necessary place. Like, I'm not trying to get too spiritual on this podcast, but to me, wherever she's going is wherever Oliver's soul is, you know. And, um, that's all that matters to me, is that they'll be together, um, because, you know, sorry, if guys don't like Oliver and Felicity, I'm a big Oliver and Felicity fan... I think they deserve that - that - that happy ending in a way... I just want to make sure that, by the end of the series, that we know that Oliver Queen is somehow - whatever he's doing, that he's okay with it, even if he is this new Monitor, which, I have to say, I think is a really cool prediction. That, like, you know, in a lot of ways, crime - fighting crime is like the only thing that did make sense to him. And it was his way of kind of healing once he really found the right path to it and wasn't just killing names off a list. Um, so I could see that being a satisfying ending for me, still as long as he gets to connect with his daughter. That's - that's it. If he does not somehow get some like connection with Mia, especially with Katherine McNamara being so good... I'll be very - that'll be one thing where I'll be going, 'what the hell, Arrow, you really dropped the ball on that one.'" -- NH added that "the Monitor thing" would also be a way for Oliver to connect with his loved ones and mentioned that Colin Donnell just left Chicago Med and is free now. So if Oliver's no longer "bound by space and time," that would be an opportunity for him to have some "cathartic moments" with old characters. NH also mentioned Jamey Sheridan and Susanna Thompson and Willa Holland as other original cast members that they should get back for the final season. He's optimistic about and looking forward to S8. -- CK said that he trusted Beth Schwartz and thought that she has a "really good handle" on what the stories are for the main characters on the show: "I would say the main three [characters] and maybe someone like Roy as well." So he's optimistic about S8 as well. -- NH: "You don't have to apologize for being an Oliver and Felicity fan on this podcast 'cause I think, um, the numbers are in and the one that I had Jen* on is like, so far, the most listened to." CK: "It's less of an apology, and it's just - I think it's just my twitter shield coming up... If anyone who listens to this reads my reviews, thank you, guys, so much for all the love and support you've given me on them, and all the great comments. It sincerely means the world to me. But yeah, it's like, after every one of them too, they always get someone like, 'ah, you like Nolicity? You blah blah blah.' Whatever, man. I still remember when my piece on Fandom got published about, uh, what like Felicity would do in Season 7, like, my hopes for her. And, oh my God, they just swarmed on me. And I was just like - I've never hit Mute more." NH: "It's obvious to me that they have chemistry, so I don't understand what people are so mad about." CK: "Exactly. It's not like it was a calculated F.U. to comic book fans... If you go back and rewatch the series, like - I love Katie Cassidy as an actress. I do. I loved her on Supernatural especially. But she and Stephen Amell? Nothing. Just nothing. I'm sorry. And then Emily Bett Rickards comes on and it's like, 'whoa! okay, they got this really unique, kinda cool chemistry. Oliver and Felicity have this fun, like, very odd couple kind of bond, like, they're from very different worlds. She makes him smile... Anyway, save that for another podcast. I'll let you move on to the next segment." (* NH is referring to Jennifer Knudson (a/k/a jbuffyangel), who was a guest on his June 13, 2019 podcast, which you can listen to here.)
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    S16.E04: Auditions 4

    The tap routine is the only performance that stood out for me this week. So far this season, the auditions overall have been a yawner. The Edwards twins were on America's Got Talent in 2017 (when they were 16)... (Talent Recap)
  3. Here's the original announcement by Warner Bros. TV (no LoT)...
  4. Posted 7 hours ago - looks like SA's facial scruff is starting to grow back...
  5. FYI - winners of the 2019 Primetimer Awards have been posted (no Arrow wins or "wins" in the Best or Worst categories)... https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/94566-and-the-2019-winners-are/
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    Green Arrow In Comics

    The 10 Best Superhero Origin Comics Ever By CHASE MAGNETT - June 24, 2019 https://comicbook.com/comics/2019/06/24/10-best-superhero-origin-comics/
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    Arrow Stars in Other Roles

  8. EBR is currently in the lead with 47% of the vote (just ahead of MB's 39%), so it will probably be a close race...
  9. MB interview at Comic Con Ireland in Dublin on Saturday (June 22)... COMIC CON DUBLIN MANU BENNETT Published on Jun 22, 2019, by Weekend AM Virgin Media Television -- MB: "Yeah, you now, my character, Deathstroke, I'm the one who taught Oliver Queen how to fight and, uh, had all the early - I'm like Darth Vader, you know what I - and he's like - but he's like Luke, my son. So we have this very tight relationship. We have sort of the fan favorite relationship. We're coming into the last season. I don't know, this is like a - producers give you a call and they say, 'hey, listen, we want to use you, and can you be here next week?' So, we'll see what happens." -- MB: "Well, these days the storyline can be leaked so quickly on social media that they like to keep everything completely quiet and, you know, because of my storyline, you know, as soon as they say anything or people would catch wind of it, it would be straight out there, you know... 'Deathstroke returns,' yeah." -- In 2012, MB did a screen test with Angelina Jolie for Tomb Raider 2. MB: "You know, when I met Angelina Jolie, it was at Pinewood Studios in London. Uh, I went into a big studio like this and she walked into the far door and I was thinking to myself, like, 'don't say something stupid,' right? ... And I remember, she had the humility to leave the people behind that she was with and walk all the way across and say 'hello' to me. I found that - you know, most actresses wouldn't do that. Trust me. You got to do the hard work. (Laughs) ... It was just one of those things where ego is not involved, and she showed really great humility... I actually ended up breaking my wrist snowboarding, so I missed out on the role, which was like heartbreaking. But the outfit that she wore was actually a backpack. She had this very tight thing around her shoulders and that was actually a backpack... I don't want to talk too long, but 'hi, Angelina, too bad that we didn't get to work together.'" -- MB described the current fantasy stories that are celebrated at comic cons as "modern mythology." -- MB shared with the interviewer the Maori greeting known as the "hongi" (touch foreheads and breathe in at the same time).
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    The Starling City Times: News and Media about Arrow

    I wasn't sure where to post this article... Smallville Star Tom Welling Likes the Idea of Playing Batman in The CW's ArrowVerse JEREMY DICK— June 24th, 2019 https://tvweb.com/arrowverse-batman-tom-welling/
  11. SAN DIEGO COMIC CON INTERNATIONAL, July 18-21, 2019 (CA) Arrow cast/producers are expected to attend (SA has confirmed attendance). https://www.comic-con.org/cci/ https://comiccon.thewb.com/ Schedule -Sat. (7/20) at 10:30–11:45 a.m. Batwoman Pilot Screening and Q&A -Sat. (7/20) at 3:30–4:15 p.m. Arrow Special Video Presentation and Q&A -Sat. (7/20) at 4:15–5:00 p.m. Supergirl Special Video Presentation and Q&A -Sat. (7/20) at 5:00–5:45 p.m. Black Lightning Special Video Presentation and Q&A -Sat. (7/20) at 5:45–6:30 p.m. The Flash Special Video Presentation and Q&A -Sat. (7/20) at 7:00–9:00 p.m. DC UNIVERSE Series Sneak Previews and Q&A ETA: I predict that LaMonica Garrett will be part of the Arrow panel.
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    Arrow Stars in Other Roles

  13. Neal Adams thinks Stephen Amell should smile more Published on Jun 24, 2019, by Nerd Rage PH -- On what he thinks of SA's portrayal of Green Arrow, Neal Adams: "It's not bad. He should smile more... Like, the idea of a Green Arrow is that he's like a - kind of a take-off of Robin Hood, who's sort of jocular. He should be smiling in the wrong places, you know, like, oh, it's serious and he suddenly smiles. You want to see him smile in a weird place, you know, where you go, 'why the hell is he smiling?' I just think that would add to the character. Outside of that, Stephen Amell is doing a great job. I mean, really, guys, c'mon, he looks great. He even acts - he knows how to act. And he does all this Neal Adams stuff, you know. And they borrow from Batman, you know - Ra's al Ghul, Nanda Parbat, and all the rest of that stuff. It's the Neal Adams show, really."
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    Small Talk: The Quiver

    This result is completely incorrect for me... Everyone's Personality Matches A "Toy Story 4" Character — Here's Yours Nora Dominick June 23, 2019 https://www.buzzfeed.com/noradominick/which-toy-story-4-character-are-you-quiz
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    Spoiler Discussion Thread: The Sequel

    Another reason for the delay might be KM's contractual obligation to Shadowhunters. Even though that show just finished its final season and is now cancelled, there might be a period of time during which the actors are still under legal obligation (I think something like that happened with Timeless where the cast was bound for a few months after cancellation). Therefore, if the show is somehow saved by another network or streaming service,* she would be committed to doing that show again and not be available for a series regular role on Arrow next season or for any Arrow spin-off. Tbc, I don't know, I'm just speculating. (* At least one media outlet has speculated that Shadowhunters might be saved by winning one or more Teen Choice Awards - they have 4 noms in Wave 1. Voting in this wave ends on June 25, but the winners won't be announced until the live awards show on Aug. 11. However, I doubt Arrow TPTB would wait until then to make their decisions.)
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