S12.E21: Not My Sister's Keeper

[sistermagpie]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

IF she had evidence to back up her claim she would have nothing to fear .. She doesnt or they would have "leaked" before this or hell even now 

she is expecting us to take her word for it 

I thought of that when Sutton said she hadn't given any details. It seemed like Sutton was pointedly saying how yeah, she kept bringing it up and saying it was so terrible but refused to actually say what it was, and just expected them to believe her. Sounded like it was Sutton's way of saying she was full of shit.

Seems like if there was a C&D it ought to cover Lisa continuing to tell everyone that what Kathy said was so bad it would ruin peoples' lives and cancel Christmas this year.

[JenE4]

I see a Nobel prize heading Rinna’s way! Who knew the cure for cancer was just going around spouting off how “shook” you were at every chance you get? These suckers in chemo! You just get people to own it, and bam! the cancer is killed faster than a smear article in an entertainment magazine after receiving a cease and desist from a Hilton lawyer.

Edited October 6, 2022 by JenE4

[MyMaui]

I really like Garcelle and Sutton and add in Crystal too.  Sutton just going up and asking.  This is one of the reason why I like her.  Just go ask.  Garcelle and Crystal gave sound advice when they spoke with Kyle.

Erika and Rinna, well you both are vomit enducing. Both of you in this one.  And really Erika you think you are more of a name than Hilton?  No you aren't and you are even in the top 100 of being more of a name.

It's funny about Rinna.  She is asked a question.  Just a straight up question and her go to is --Why are you being so angry and where is this anger coming from.  This is what happens when someone has no case.  They deflect and create a scene to stop the talk about their actions.   And then you say the most ridiculous thing next.  You bottle it up and you will get cancer?  Seriously?  You've been a raging bitch for several seasons so I think you are the last one to get cancer for bottling anything up. But really you give that stupid analogy where everyone except the dollar store weave of a mess laughs at you.

Rinna has to be done.  She just has to be.  You want to keep Erika fine.  I don't like her at all but she isn't appearing as if she is on a soap audition.  Rinna she is souless, vile, and delusional.  Really for her own sake she should be gone.  She is the one that needs help.

[Cosmocrush]

I do not even care what Kathy said anymore.  For one thing, I don't really care about Kathy Hilton so there's that.  But more importantly, whatever she said back at the house that  "Shook" Rinna it wasn't on the show and there aren't any witnesses.  I truly doubt it was worse than the attacks Rinna herself screams at dinner parties on camera.   Kathy has apologized (she could have denied it)  and besides it's truly none of Rinna's business anymore.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Cosmocrush

[Surrealist]

11 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I do not even care what Kathy said anymore.  For one thing, I don't really care about Kathy Hilton so there's that.  But more importantly, whatever she said back at the house that  "Shook" Rinna it wasn't on the show and there aren't any witnesses.  I truly doubt it was worse than the attacks Rinna herself screams at dinner parties on camera.   Kathy has apologized (she could have denied it)  and besides it's truly none of Rinna's business anymore.

I wish I could upvote this 1000 times.

[Crazydoxielady]

Kathy showed up and she is not here to play!! The first look at reunion in link below 👇🏻 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjY3R-qhMzn/?igshid=MDE2OWE1N2Q=

Edited October 6, 2022 by Crazydoxielady

[Natalie68]

5 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

I wish I could upvote this 1000 times.

Same!

[RealHousewife]

15 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Sutton looked fantastic!! I love her dress so much.

Sutton does look really pretty on WWH!

[RealHousewife]

57 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I do not even care what Kathy said anymore.  For one thing, I don't really care about Kathy Hilton so there's that.  But more importantly, whatever she said back at the house that  "Shook" Rinna it wasn't on the show and there aren't any witnesses.  I truly doubt it was worse than the attacks Rinna herself screams at dinner parties on camera.   Kathy has apologized (she could have denied it)  and besides it's truly none of Rinna's business anymore.

Honestly, if all Kathy did was talk a bunch of shit about these women, she's one of us!

[FlyingEgret]

1 hour ago, Mar said:

Right now I can’t find the post, but earlier someone mentioned Kim Kardashian wearing that blue get-up that Rinna was wearing at the party.

So she's renting from the Kardashian Kloset now?

[heatherchandler]

22 hours ago, Slakkie said:

Lisa Vanderpump is twirling her crown somewhere.  Look what happen Kyle, your trained assassins do not give a SHIT about you instead they will ruin your family so we stop talking about widows orphans and burn victims.  And your stooge Dorito admonishes YOU for bringing up how they are TRYING TO DESTROY YOUR FAMILY.

I hate Dorit.  She's a jerk for saying that.  What, she doesn't want to upset the gruesome twosome?  What is the point of her being on the show?  She brings nothing.

21 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Maybe Vicki G will start a charity on Rinna’s behalf.

KILL ALL CANCER CAUSED BY HOLDING IN SECRETS

[njbchlover]

5 hours ago, amarante said:

A modern publicist isn’t just for getting a client’s name in the press. It is often for keeping it out or spinning events to shed favorable light. Also as was discussed above, social media accounts are generally handled by PR firms.

Ericka has lots of money between her BRAVO salary plus all the money she gets from monetizing social media. Everything she posts earns her money. She is also reputed to have at least one old rich casino owner who gives her money. 

Erika's publicist, Jack Ketosyan's "About" page from his Amazon page (I found this by Googling him):

"Jack Ketsoyan is a veteran publicist in Hollywood who's spent most of his time on the other side of the velvet rope. He has worked for the big agencies such as PMK and Humane Baum Halls. He now runs his own boutique agency, EMC Bowery. Jack specialized in crisis PR, helping stars deal with sudden scandals."

So, if "sudden scandals" and "crisis PR" are his specialities, I could totally see why Erika hired him.  Two things I can't figure out~~ his fees must be pretty steep, so how does Erika afford him?  And, given all of the bad press out there about Erika, he really is not so great at his job, which I would assume is putting "good press" out there about her.  We're not seeing too much of that these days.

And, yes - he has an Amazon page, as he is a published co-author of two novels about Hollywood gossip and behind the scenes drama.

Edited October 6, 2022 by njbchlover

[heatherchandler]

21 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Rinna looked like a cross between "I Dream of Jeannie" and an anorexic member of "Blue Man Group".

She blue herself. (thanks Arrested Dev)

[MamaGee]

23 hours ago, 65mickey said:

She just stood there mute like she was afraid to say anything to Rinna. How about just saying Rinna this is between My sister and me. You need to back off. 

But the only reason there is a problem between the sisters in the first place is that Rinna told Kyle what Kathy said. Right y'all???

And I wish I had been drinking for every time Rinna said "shook." Scripted much, Lipsa??

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, Mar said:

Right now I can’t find the post, but earlier someone mentioned Kim Kardashian wearing that blue get-up that Rinna was wearing at the party.

I dislike both of these women immensely, I am loathe to admit that Kim wore this sooooo much better!   This outfit on Rinna looks like a quick challenge from Project Runway where the designers could only wrap and drape fabric without sewing.

Rinna should learn about breast tape and how to use it to pop up those droopy breasts.

(I still think the outfit makes them both look like "Blue Man Group" rejects.)

And, yes, I agree with everyone here who says that Rinna is the one who is jealous of the Kardashian's.  We've heard references to the Kardashians over and over and over again this season - all coming from Rinna's mouth.  No one else ever brings them up (except for Kyle when she mentioned the birthday bouquet from Kris Jenner).  She's so obsessed with them, she's copying everything they do.  Unfortunately, it's not working out as financially successful for her as it did for them.

[chlban]

1 hour ago, Crazydoxielady said:

Kathy showed up and she is not here to play!! The first look at reunion in link below 👇🏻 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjY3R-qhMzn/?igshid=MDE2OWE1N2Q=

"You are the biggest bully in Hollywood and everyone knows it". Hallelujah, someone finally says it to her. We know Andy doesn't have the guts to call her out, but at least Kathy does.

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, Cosmocrush said:

I do not even care what Kathy said anymore.  For one thing, I don't really care about Kathy Hilton so there's that.  But more importantly, whatever she said back at the house that  "Shook" Rinna it wasn't on the show and there aren't any witnesses.  I truly doubt it was worse than the attacks Rinna herself screams at dinner parties on camera.   Kathy has apologized (she could have denied it)  and besides it's truly none of Rinna's business anymore.

Rinna was just dying for someone to beg her, on screen, to reveal EXACTLY what she heard Kathy say about each and every one of them.  But, before they could get around to asking her to "repeat" it, they (or production) may have received cease and desist letters, so the other housewives could not ask.  That must have totally burned Rinna's ass, as she couldn't reveal anything.  She just kept repeating whatever she had said prior to the c&d letters may have been sent, so it just frustrated her more and more.  Hence the constant "shook me" comment because she really couldn't say anything more.

1 hour ago, Surrealist said:

I wish I could upvote this 1000 times.

Me too!!!!  

Edited October 6, 2022 by njbchlover

[psychoticstate]

Can anyone recommend a good lawyer because, per Rinna, it was Kathy Hilton's fault I was diagnosed with cancer and therefore I need to sue.

Who says we don't learn things on these RH shows?

Why is Diana always dressed like she's attending a tribute event to Marilyn Monroe?  

If Asher clicked his heels together and said "there's no place like home," would he be transported to Kansas?  And if so, will he take Diana with him?

I am still laughing over Erika thinking her fame far eclipses Kathy Hilton's.  Maybe Botox and hair dye are eating away at her brain cells.  

Amazing how afraid Kyle is of her "friends."  

Garcelle looked amazing this episode.  I would have loved to go to her bag party - although I certainly can't afford a Birkin or a Kelly.
 

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

And, yes - he has an Amazon page, as he is a published co-author of two novels about Hollywood gossip and behind the scenes drama.

Heh.  Nothing like a Hollywood publicist who then writes some books about behind the scenes drama. Also, gets the attention off one client by tossing another client's mother under the bus.  Sounds like a D-lister to me (same with his client list actually).

Edited October 7, 2022 by Cosmocrush

[WaltersHair]

The lawyers for the plaintiffs against Tom and Ericka have been trying to get information for TWO years from this show. Kathy Hilton gets it with a snap of her fingers.

I 'm a bit scared of her now, ac

[Tyler1992]

48 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

Garcelle looked amazing this episode.  I would have loved to go to her bag party - although I certainly can't afford a Birkin or a Kelly.
 

I far prefer the Bolide! Much more reasonably priced, and far more practical and discreet than either the Birkin or the Kelly.

And by the way, Christos, Jane Birkin was a sexy English girl from the 60s. 😛

Edited October 7, 2022 by Tyler1992

[Surrealist]

1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

Honestly, if all Kathy did was talk a bunch of shit about these women, she's one of us!

Right?! Who hasn't talked about them at this point?

[NJbutNoHousewife]

10 hours ago, Pixilicious said:

Thank you so much for your kind thoughts...you understand, as many others here also do...we know Rinna crossed a line, but not sure Andy or Bravo cares, which is pretty sad...at least we support each other here...i love that ❤

So sorry for your losses...it's not easy to lose people who are loved so dearly (no matter the cause)..the grief never goes away, just becomes part of who you are...it's why we react so strongly to stupid, flippant comments like Rinna made...she really is thoughtless and hateful...i'll never understand a person with her mentality 

So, so true. the grief doesn't go away. It's been almost 2 years and I survive it better, but I'll never be the same person or look at life the same again. I can laugh off most of the crazy housewife stuff, but cancer is off limits, I hope she rots. 

[whydoievencare]

So the the nasty housewives have thrived on going after their co-workers for any number of manufactured reasons:  e.g. Denise, Lisa V., Sutton - and Kyle has been fine with all of it - she even led the charge in some instances.  Now the target is Kathy but Kyle wants her family to be untouchable (because there are repercussions for her)?  Apart from what Lisa Rinna implied, Kathy Hilton was behaving badly in public places - what we saw on the show and what the other HWs saw/experienced at the disco.  Earlier, at the western hat store - Kathy was clearly pissed off that her Tequila wasn't getting any attention (and Rinna deliberately stirred the pot there), but Kathy was also fed up that "Kyle wasn't doing anything!"  And flounced.  Why was it Kyle's responsibility to bring everyone to heel so that Kathy could promote her liquor?  I know their family dynamics are fucked up, but why did Kathy look to Kyle to "fix" the situation at the hat store?  Is she just so used to have others do for her?  To control her environment?  I detest Lisa Rinna and Erika, and Kyle is a shit-stirrer extraordinaire!  And I agree with those who feel that Rinna is lying through her teeth about what she saw and heard.  But Kathy isn't just just this harmless, slightly daffy woman either.  

[psychoticstate]

If Rinna does get cancer because of holding in the trauma and PTSD that Kathy so obviously caused her, will she get her results at Chili's like Kim Zolciak?  

[ZettaK]

7 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

IF she had evidence to back up her claim she would have nothing to fear .. She doesnt or they would have "leaked" before this or hell even now 

she is expecting us to take her word for it 

The next step to a cease and desist is a lawsuit which even if it is frivolous it can drain one financially to fight it.

6 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

that only covers slander  ... it doesnt cover if the stuff being said is true ... yes they could be taken to court but if they have evidence of truthfulness that isn't Slander (like Lisa is attempting with the I have PTSD) a judge would rule against Kathy.. just throwing that out there

Ceast and desist DOESN'T cover slander only. 

[Keywestclubkid]

9 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

The next step to a cease and desist is a lawsuit which even if it is frivolous it can drain one financially to fight it.

But then wouldn’t you have discovery? Which would bring all of that stuff publicly that Lisa or whomever had up? So it gets released anyway just now she basically paid the judicial system to do it? 

Edited October 7, 2022 by Keywestclubkid

[ZettaK]

7 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

I think that Rinna might have recorded some of the episode that happened in the Aspen house and that’s why she got a cease and desist order from Kathy. Her phone may have proof of something or nothing. If she’s allegedly scared enough to go to her bedroom and lock the door, you know she wants evidence as to why. Receipts. The ladies usually bring all the receipts to the Reunion. 

It's possible Rinna has a recording of Kathy's incident, that's why Kathy sent a cease and desist letter, or more specifically her lawyer(s). Kathy doesn't want any specific details coming out.

[SweetieDarling]

Kyle says she wants to make peace because she wants the whole family at her daughter's  upcoming wedding. Sorry, not sorry, but Kyle mostly only wants the Hiltons there for the lavish gifts. Kyle is all about the Benjamins. And the Birkins.

[goofygirl]

On 10/5/2022 at 9:31 PM, njbchlover said:

I know this is kind show-adjacent, but Sutton on WWHL looks truly  amazing!!  Her dress and shoes are absolute perfection!!!  (And, Sutton has the teeniest, skinniest legs I've ever seen on anyone that is not in a severe ED situation.)

ITA!!! Her hair and that dress were absolute perfection!

[Cosmocrush]

29 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Kyle says she wants to make peace because she wants the whole family at her daughter's  upcoming wedding. Sorry, not sorry, but Kyle mostly only wants the Hiltons there for the lavish gifts. Kyle is all about the Benjamins. And the Birkins.

I disagree on this one.  I believe that Kyle really does want peace in her family, not just for herself but for her kids and her nieces/nephews.   And I'm even going to give Kathy et al. the benefit of the doubt and guess that she would probably send a gift regardless. 

When Kathy's daughter Nicki got married Kathy and Rick (who were still bitter over Mo leaving the company business) only invited half of Kyle's family(not all the girls and not Mo).  Kyle said the people that got hurt the most during that period of estrangement were the kids (cousins, nieces, nephew, etc)

Unfortunately, I understand some of Kyle's situation about estranged family members and their kids paying the price.  It's amazing what we've done to keep the fragile peace we finally established and that's largely because of the kids (even as they are now young adults). 

[stcroix]

Kyle is too weak and Kathy is too proper-- I was wishing for the Ghost of Big Kathy to appear and drop kick Rinna's ass out of the house during that party!  It would be so satisfying to have something happen that would wipe that smirk off that balloon lipped mean girls mouth.

[Cosmocrush]

6 hours ago, Mar said:

Right now I can’t find the post, but earlier someone mentioned Kim Kardashian wearing that blue get-up that Rinna was wearing at the party.

How embarrassing.  😁

Did Kim K wear this out to an event?  (looks like to photo is in a bathroom)  I wonder if she wore it to a fancy sit down dinner in a backyard?  At least she didn't add the ten pounds of hair ala Rinna. 

[RealHousewife]

28 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

I disagree on this one.  I believe that Kyle really does want peace in her family, not just for herself but for her kids and her nieces/nephews.   And I'm even going to give Kathy et al. the benefit of the doubt and guess that she would probably send a gift regardless. 

When Kathy's daughter Nicki got married Kathy and Rick (who were still bitter over Mo leaving the company business) only invited half of Kyle's family(not all the girls and not Mo).  Kyle said the people that got hurt the most during that period of estrangement were the kids (cousins, nieces, nephew, etc)

Unfortunately, I understand some of Kyle's situation about estranged family members and their kids paying the price.  It's amazing what we've done to keep the fragile peace we finally established and that's largely because of the kids (even as they are now young adults). 

I like Kathy but thought inviting half the family was so bizarre. The kids couldn't have had anything to do with The Agency drama or any of the stuff among the adults. 

I do think Kyle enjoys being Paris Hilton's aunt, but I really do believe she loves those girls. We know how much she loves her daughters and her maternal side. She was very young when Paris and Nicky were born. She loved them as babies, and they have such a small age gap, I really think she does see them almost like little sisters too. 

All that said, she needs to treat their mother right. I'd be pissed if I saw some of the stuff on Housewives if I were Paris or Nicky, and based on their social media, I believe they were. They probably love Kyle as their aunt, but Kathy is their mother. I'm sure they want Kyle to treat Kathy with some respect and not constantly poke fun, snap at, and allow Rinna to bully her.

[goofygirl]

3 hours ago, NJbutNoHousewife said:

So, so true. the grief doesn't go away. It's been almost 2 years and I survive it better, but I'll never be the same person or look at life the same again. I can laugh off most of the crazy housewife stuff, but cancer is off limits, I hope she rots. 

Have you considered grief counseling?  I ask because after my husband's suicide, I went to counseling every week for two years and you know what?  It was the best thing I ever did for myself and my spirit.   

Edited October 7, 2022 by goofygirl

[Glama]

On 10/6/2022 at 4:02 AM, goofygirl said:

Thank you jeebus.  This awful hideous season of this awful hideous show is FINALLY over!!  And I'm still sober! YAY!

The rest of us will raise a glass (or a bottle) in your sober honor! 😅

[Glama]

On 10/6/2022 at 5:20 AM, Dutchgirl said:

Every single time, I inadvertently look for Sutton’s nips.
 

https://ibb.co/DKBthy2

Me too! And I'm not even ashamed 😅 But it's a bit annoying, because I want to pay attention to what she's saying! 

[CallmeCray]

On 10/6/2022 at 4:55 AM, RoseAllDay said:

Kathy is just the means to get to Kyle. That’s why I wish Kyle had just shut down the discussion by saying she and Kathy have talked; it’s over, move on. But Erika’s in full scorched-earth mode now, because she’s realizing she’s in deep shit and wants the attention anywhere but on her — and how better to do that than put the show’s lead housewife on blast? Erika doesn’t give a damn who she hurts (Rinna certainly doesn’t), and if she can get someone else to do her dirty work, all the better.

What’s maddening to me is that not only does this woman want the attention deflected from her, but this twisted narcissist wants SYMPATHY for having been called out for her sadistic, shitty protests and utter disregard for the victims of her husband’s crimes.  That, to me, is much darker than the cold “character” we had gotten used to over the years.  She’s been flat out cruel when it comes to the fallout from Tom and his co-conspirators’ crimes.  She meant every word of it when she said she only cares about herself.  

What’s more is that there is NOTHING Rinna could ever say about that night in Aspen - nothing that Kathy might have said or done, that would even COME CLOSE to comparing to Erika’s behavior and her total disdain for those who have suffered because her “mean” husband was a conman.   

The gall of that “Cunty” broad…

Edited October 8, 2022 by CallmeCray

[Pixilicious]

Sorry for your loss 😢 and you're right about counseling...it helps so many people

Just now, Pixilicious said:

Sorry for your loss 😢 and you're right about counseling...it helps so many people

That comment was meant for goofygirl...not sure why it didn't quote her as i intended

[Hiyo]

Quote

Completely understandable because Garcelle is much smarter than Eboni and most importantly Garcelle has much more emotional intelligence than Eboni.

It also helps that Garcelle's castmates aren't as ignorant/bigoted/racist as Eboni's were (or at least, are smart enough not to come across that way on camera....off camera, well, that's a different issue).

[Surrealist]

5 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

They probably love Kyle as their aunt, but Kathy is their mother.

This exactly.

Regardless of whether they think Kathy was the perfect mother is irrelevant here. She's their mom. They'll likely always take her side over that of one of their aunts.

[Kdawg82]

Nevermind silence...*this* episode is golden!!! The evil hounds are getting called out 1000%. I hope Vyle sticks to her guns here. They're trying to take them all down as they're the LEAST popular at this point. But honestly, without them,  who would fight? We'd need a new lighting rod. 

[Yours Truly]

16 hours ago, Mindthinkr said:

I think that Rinna might have recorded some of the episode that happened in the Aspen house and that’s why she got a cease and desist order from Kathy. Her phone may have proof of something or nothing. If she’s allegedly scared enough to go to her bedroom and lock the door, you know she wants evidence as to why. Receipts. The ladies usually bring all the receipts to the Reunion. 

A cease and desist doesn’t keep you from telling the truth. It’s to keep people from making wild accusations that they CAN’T back up with proof. It’s basically a heads up that lawyers ready and waiting to drag your ass to court the minute a specific accusation is uttered. Now if a person has proof then they wouldn’t be worried about being dragged into court. Basically what the letter is saying is “go ahead and keep talking but you better be ready to show solid and verifiable proof that what your saying is true”. It should say a lot when a C&D shuts up an accuser because a C&D should only make liars nervous not people who can back up their accusations. Unfortunately people think C&D’s are a weapon to hide the truth when it’s actually the opposite. If Rinna has stuff to show that proves her claims then it a trip to court doesn’t matter cause she’ll be able to deny the charges of slander/liable if she was in fact telling the truth. But we all know that ain’t the case. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Edited October 7, 2022 by Yours Truly

[Mar]

Kathy Hilton’s Instagram today. Things are not looking too good for her relationship with Kyle.

[Mar]

In case you haven’t seen this… i’m not sure how to interpret this. We can see that Lisa knew they were there, so was this a deliberate attempt to feed information to someone she knew would publicize it?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjaQCZCDCGh/?igshid=NjZiMGI4OTY=

[blixie]

Quote

Unfortunately people think C&D’s are a weapon to hide the truth when it’s actually the opposite. 

Right NDA's are more designed to hide the truth.

[RoseAllDay]

15 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

I do not even care what Kathy said anymore.  For one thing, I don't really care about Kathy Hilton so there's that.  But more importantly, whatever she said back at the house that  "Shook" Rinna it wasn't on the show and there aren't any witnesses.  I truly doubt it was worse than the attacks Rinna herself screams at dinner parties on camera.   Kathy has apologized (she could have denied it)  and besides it's truly none of Rinna's business anymore.

Put aside for a minute the fact that this is a “reality” TV show, where stuff is manufactured and taken out of context all the time.

All Kyle needed to do was explain — ONCE — that she and Kathy had talked (the details of which were nobody else’s business), the two had reached some kind of truce or peaceful coexistence, and as far as she was concerned, the matter was closed. That seemed to be where everybody else was at with it, except for Rinna and her puppetmaster Erika. 

When Rinna kept insisting on bringing it up, wallowing in it and further embellishing it, Kyle should have ignored her, then taken her aside and told her that if she didn’t drop it, she would have to leave — by security escort if  necessary.

Nobody in the real world would put up with that bullshit, especially at their own event in their own home, no less. This season, and the finale, showed how destructive “reality” TV can be for the sake of a juicy storyline. Real people can get real hurt real fast. 

If all Bravo wants is sensationalism, there are scripted series that do that much better. The opening showed that there were many other, more compelling storylines that got hijacked by two shrews, and this was about as far from entertaining as Bravo could get.

 

 

12 minutes ago, blixie said:

Right NDA's are more designed to hide the truth.

Exactly. C and Ds don’t erase what’s been said; all they do is stop people from continuing to say it. 

(Is it “cease and desist,” or “cyst and decease”? 😆)

Edited October 7, 2022 by RoseAllDay

[dmeets]

1 hour ago, RoseAllDay said:

(Is it “cease and desist,” or “cyst and decease”? 😆)

OMG Kathy IS going to give Lisa cancer!! 😱

Edited October 7, 2022 by dmeets

[Cheyanne11]

2 hours ago, Mar said:

In case you haven’t seen this… i’m not sure how to interpret this. We can see that Lisa knew they were there, so was this a deliberate attempt to feed information to someone she knew would publicize it?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CjaQCZCDCGh/?igshid=NjZiMGI4OTY=

In my opinion, 100% yes.  Rinna knew exactly what she was doing.  

[Blondie]

I knew it!  Rinna was behind the whole thing!