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S05.E14: To Love And To Obey?


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1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

I've had several outpatient procedures done.  The last one was in July - surgery on my horrendously clogged and infected sinuses.  They let me keep my panties on.  But then . . . who really wants to see what's south of the border on a 73-year-old grandmother?  LOL.

I'm a gynecologist, so my surgical patients don't wear anything below the Mason-Dixon line, but, the few times I've had surgery, I kept my underpants on.  Women have to remove bras and such due to the metal in the closures and underwires since they use cautery in the OR.  I don't think there was any reason for Larissa not to be wearing underwear for her surgery except that the producers probably requested it so they could get those shots and we know she'll do anything to be on camera.

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3 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

How did Larissa get from naked w/her butt crack blurred to cute PJs before she woke up? Do they dress you in recovery before your are awake? Ericee is a predator $$$ she will be on the pole or escorting at his hand before long. 

Charlie is an ass that was ugly. Chuck's combover was large and in charge and almost a diff color- (toupee?) or I am just used to him in a ball cap, it entertained me to no end because he looked like a fat doughy pale POS out of his USA uniform. Libby's lipstick was too severe and the pancake makeup was for morticians. I didn't need Jen's see thru leggings and big ass headed up the stairs. She is a horrible woman fanning the flames to stay at the teat of big daddy. I am fascinated by the mother who seems to gloss over everything they have such a close relationship w/their DAD even the girls. The mom feels like more an Aunt.  I loved the Moldovan touches the church was STUNNING. Of course Libby spent more time on the food and party venue than learning the steps of her wedding ceremony.  Does someone always follow around the woman w/the crown or did Libby wear a non conforming headpiece?

Coltee is disgusting, he and Pole have the same east west flat footed running condition. I wonder if it is a developmental delay or condition. Any OT here? 

I hate Angela yet here we are I felt bad about Mother Angela and empathy for Angela for being so far away when she was stricken. 

Mother Debbie: JFC. She knows Pole can't find his way out of a paper bag 1/2 the time she calls him basically a loser and 1/2 the time worries.  She is one strange ranger and the DNA didn't fall far from the tree.  Her shirt was blurred out and had an airplane on it. I bet she works close to the airport in Louisville and it was a work shirt. 

WHY did big tough guy Low not come down hard on Mother Auselo? And why did she turn on a dime to send me more money no matter what, to I love you? That was a terrible cut scene, kids asleep kids awake there is NO way the scene went down like we were shown. The conversation did not even make sense. Father Low said NOTHING strong to put her in her place. Mother Kalani said "They can't give what they don't have." I cannot believe Low didn't lay the hammer down like he always brags about. I do not like that man. Bully and all talk except for when the rubber meets the road.

Is their long hair a "thing?" Kalani Kalini Mother Kalini Kalani? 

 

 

I was married in a Serbian Orthodox church so watching this Moldovan wedding last  night was so reminiscent for me.  Yes, the bride should have been wearing the crown, but it obviously would not fit on her head with the flowers in her hair.  (I thought it looked very awkward with the male following her holding the crown above her head.)   If Libby had been familiar with Orthodox weddings, she would have known to leave her head bare for the crown.  It's traditional for the bride and groom to have their hands "bound together" and walk around the altar three times.  The ceremony is looong, much longer than any American wedding.  I also noticed Libby knew how to make the sign of the cross on herself, which is made in the opposite direction than in a Catholic church--forehead, then center of chest, then right chest, then left chest.  The inside of the church was very typical of any Orthodox church, lots of gold with murals on the ceiling and many icons throughout the church.  Also noted were the two stands with slim white candles burning that parishioners burn for their deceased loved ones.  The candles are stuck in sand as a fire deterrent.  Lovely ceremony and reception.

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Father Low was so sensible explaining the true Samoan way, of take care of your family first, and help others if you can.      I think he's already over the demands, and probably figures he'll end up supporting his daughter and the two kids before long.    I thought it was amusing how Mama Asuelu now claims that she thinks Asuelu should take care of his own kids first, and really doesn't mean that at all.  

Maybe Asuelu will grow a backbone, but either way I don't think the Samoan Asuelu's will ever stop demanding money.    How dare Tammy get in Lisa's face like that.    Then way grandmother Asuelu acts like she cares about the grand children, and then says if getting her money means they're homeless, and hungry, then she's fine with that.      The attitudes of Mama A. and Tammy are disgusting.   I really wish someone would wipe that nasty smirk off of Mama A. and Tammy's faces.    If it comes down to a real throw down, my money is on Lisa and Kalani. 

So is Asuelu growing a backbone?  The only think Mama A. loves is money.   Tammy is a straight up jerk.  How dare Tammy say Asuelu should dump the wife, and kids, and divorce to give every penny to his mother.   People on reality shows often claim that what they said was misrepresented, or edited to make them look bad, but Tammy can't say anything is misrepresented.   

I can't wait for next week after the previews. 

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8 hours ago, IllLitShips said:

Ash giving relationship advice to former and single 90 Day stars.

I'd love to see him giving a private seminar to Darcey and Stacey! 

4 hours ago, suzywallis said:

Mother Debbie works for UPS.  They have a HUGE hub in Louisville

I'm confused, are we talking about Paul's mother, MARY? 

Typing that made me think of, "When I find myself in times of trouble, Mother Mary comes to me, speaking words of wisdom, let it be..." That will be stuck in my head all day

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14 hours ago, jackjill89 said:

I didn't need to hear about Angela's orgasm. I didn't need to hear her describing how she was naked under the covers except for her boobs and then one peek at the mammaries and Michael salutes. I didn't need her visual either. 

I need brain bleach.

I shuddered and dry heaved just reading this.

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2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

What do they pack in those huge suitcases???  And they are going down to clear stuff out?

I thought Paul and Karine packed way lighter for this trip than the first time Paul went to Brazil and took a whole bunch of huge lockers. 

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13 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I thought Paul and Karine packed way lighter for this trip than the first time Paul went to Brazil and took a whole bunch of huge lockers. 

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That was when he was wooing her with plush emoji poop presents.

Oh wait the waste sanitation plant, I am sensing a theme.

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I know Andrei can be an arse, but having to put up wth Libbey and her family, uggg.

Angela and Michael's wedding - the venue was lovely, the groom's family and friends looked amazing and happy. Angela please stop with the sex talk. I guess we ought to be thankful she didn't mount him right there at the reception!

Kalani thank you for keeping the girls corralled at the restaurant. Couldn't handle if one plopped out on her plate. Assholios Mom and sister Tammy are so vile. Tammy needs someone to know that bitchy look right off her smug face.

Larissa I dont care to see your surgery or aftermath. It was elective and not needed you did it to yourself.

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Mother and Sister Asuelo and the other one come to Utah to have a sit down with Family Kalini, who paid for the airline tickets?

Asuelo picks up mother and sister from the airport and they ask where Kalini and kids are...why wouldn't Asuelo say that with the car seats plus Kalini there would not be enough room in the car instead he says no, she didn't want to come.

I think the only reason that family convo went well was because of Lo's presence, mother and sister would have gotten in the women's faces if there was no elder/male there.

Also, give me money.

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1 hour ago, doodlebug said:

I don't think there was any reason for Larissa not to be wearing underwear for her surgery except that the producers probably requested it so they could get those shots and we know she'll do anything to be on camera.

when I had my breast cancer lumpectomy, I couldn't wear anything under my gown. The same with my chemo port insertion and removal. 

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1 hour ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

My guess is that during anesthetic, and after they have a pad to soak up pee, if you go during surgery or recovery.  

As someone who has had many, many surgeries, I have never peed while under anesthesia. I've always been under the impression that anesthesia basically puts the bladder & bowels to sleep. I have always been told all of my underwear has to be removed for surgery for sanitary reasons. When I am out of surgery, the first thing I want to do is get up & walk to the bathroom. I have had several outpatient surgeries, there is no way any of my doctors would release me if I was as incoherent as Larissa was. But, I've never had cosmetic surgery or surgery in a fancy store front doctor's office. 

What have we, as viewers, done to be punished with ongoing non story lines with Larissa, Ericeee and Colteeee?

As someone in Angela's age range, there is no way I would treat this as a first time twenty something year old wedding. Mikeeel pulling her garter off with his teeth, yulch!  Hearing about her wedding night orgasam, yulchier! Hearing about Mikeeeels reaction to her massive, saggy, pocketbook breasts, yulchiest!

I could not believe how grateful & humble Father Elizabeth was. But, their comments about the delicious looking food was very immature, and it's time for the brother to just go. 

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24 minutes ago, alegtostandon said:

Mikeeel pulling her garter off with his teeth, yulch! 

I predicted that! However, we didn't see it thrown to the single guys. And that reminds me, what happened to Angela's "toss bouquet"? 

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11 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I predicted that! However, we didn't see it thrown to the single guys. And that reminds me, what happened to Angela's "toss bouquet"? 

I'm sure if he flung it, the single men would run!  As far up as that thing was, I wouldn't want to touch it. 

You're right, we didn't see her toss a bouquet.  I heard her bark orders to her friend to get 'Mama's' corsage. 

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12 minutes ago, alegtostandon said:

I heard her bark orders to her friend to get 'Mama's' corsage. 

I don't remember seeing Mama wearing hers, either and Michael's boutonniere disappeared after the ceremony.  

2 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

I shuddered and dry heaved just reading this

I wanted to respond to this with a meme of Colt vomiting, but it must be too early for someone to post it

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1 hour ago, Texasmom1970 said:

Kalani thank you for keeping the girls corralled at the restaurant.

I swear I saw Kalani holding her breast in an attempt to hide (hah)  her breast feeding while at the table.

Didn't care enough to rewind so it may be I am just traumatized from watching this in the first place.

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I don’t care for any of the players in the Moldova/America show except maybe Andrei’s parents, but I thought the wedding was very nice.  Obviously the siblings are extremely jealous of each other and worried about who may get more of dads’ money.  IMO, the Charlie scene was scripted, if it weren’t,  a few guys would have overtaken him and got the mic away.  BTW, am I the only one who thinks Andrei’s friend and brother look very much alike, more than Andrei and his brother.  Not sure what the purpose of the Asuelo/Kalani family meeting was, his family are stupid, they just don’t get it and Kalani should really fight her own battles.  Tired of Michael, Angela, Larissa, Ericie and Coltee. Now that Ang and Michael are married hope we have seen the last of them.  Glad we didn’t get any of drunk and drunker this week, they are a complete mess.  They should jut go their separate ways or she needs to move to SA if she wants him to be happy with her.

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3 minutes ago, LucyEth said:

 Not sure what the purpose of the Asuelo/Kalani family meeting was, his family are stupid, they just don’t get it and Kalani should really fight her own battles.

Its the exact same story line as Chantel and Pedro's. The husband's families are shown as grasping and greedy, and loud about it. The husband's family demands that he divorce his wife. The wife runs to her family to talk smack about her in laws and her husband, and expects them to fight her battles for her. Both wives have siblings who are creepily over invested in their sister's lives. Everyone is suspicious of everyone else. If Tammy and Easter Island are invited to dinner at Lo and Lisa's, and Tammy is thrown to the floor and has a handful of her hair ripped out while Lisa screams about Immigration, we'll know for sure that the writers have all quit in disgust so we're stuck with recycling the same plots, over and over. 

Its also, with some slight variations, Libby and Andrei's plot, as well.

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1 hour ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

I saw the breastfeeding too.    So it was happening, and I really think the camera shot should have been a little higher.  

Yes, when I saw it I made the comment about her always appearing to have a kid on the boob. She was holding her hand in front of Oliver's face. 

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The scene of Coltee vomiting into the trash cans was the single most revolting thing I've seen on this series and that is saying a lot. Coltee is the most uncoordinated, bumbling, graceless, clumsy tub of mush that has ever graced my television. Hope this is his and Debbie's last season. Their story line is not interesting at all.  

The Moldovan wedding was quite lovely. The church was gorgeous. Elizabeth's brother needs to get over it. If Daddy wants to spend his money on his daughter's wedding it's his choice not yours, Charlie.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Angela and Michael actually seemed happy and in love on their wedding day. Will wonders never cease? 

 

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8 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

The fancy weddings, accommodations, flights, restaurant meals, etc, are all paid for by TLC... so I do hope Pole’s dogs were either a show prop or if they do belong to him that they’re in new and loving homes and well cared for. Pole shouldn’t be trusted with a goldfish let alone dogs, wife and child.

And TLC not Erickee paid for the new boobs and nose. Larissa is getting a good run for the money. I don’t know why she is still a cast member and still raking in the benefits. Deport her.

 

Yeah I'm sick of Libby's family and drunk loser brother yapping about how her poor dad paid for the whole wedding when you know it didn't cost Mr. Slumlord a dime, and TLC paid for the plane flights, hotel, and wedding reception.

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7 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

 

Reminds me of how a nurse once told me I had to pee or I would be catherized.  Lord, talk about prayers.....for pee.

 

 

I was made to pee TWICE!! After a heart procedure last year under general anesthesia.  I hate hospitals, and as soon as I am a bit awake, I am trying to get out of there. 
No way would Larissa been sent home as bad as she was acting.  My guess is she was ok, got dressed, saw the cameras, then boom. 
Charlie’s drunken rant was too much.  And the zooming to Jen who just sat there smirking.  Ugh. 

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A lot of people are commenting about the price of the wedding, who paid etc...On another board many Eastern Europeans chimed in that this wedding would cost less than $10-15K USD and was pretty standard fare, not excessively lavish for that culture; so wether Chuck paid or not it was pennies on dollar compared to the US (and Belgian) weddings he provided for his other daughters. Charlie is an idiot. Moldova is one of (if not) the poorest countries in Europe, I’m sure the exchange rate was amazing. I went to the USSR- and Moldova is one of the former Soviet countries most like the old USSR- on a school trip in 89’ (given stone ages ago) and literally came back with 95% of the spending $ my parents gave me. A full meal at a fancy restaurant was under $10 max. My finance is Iranian and he always raves about his older barber in Iran that cost him $5 USD equivalent, including tip...that was less than a year ago. People are super ignorant...the family Libby being up at the top of the list.

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21 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

Is Andrrrrei adopted? He towers over his mom and dad.  They must have a lot of relatives judging by the crowds at the reception.

My guess is that Andrei got proper nutrition growing up while his parents didn't.  

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Unless, Larissa was pretending, she was way too sedated to be released. After one of my cosmetic surgeries, I felt as sleepy as she looked, but they aroused me and kept coaxing me to wake up, dress, use bathroom, etc, before I left.  I’ve taken people home after their surgeries and I’ve never seen anyone that sedated.  

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8 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

think the only reason that family convo went well was because of Lo's presence, mother and sister would have gotten in the women's faces if there was no elder/male there.

yes.  Lo kept it all from getting out of hand, just by sitting there.  He let Asuelo and Kalani handle his family.  I thought he managed himself well. Tammy is a relentless piece of work, I assume she is single...and would love for Asuelo to be miserable.

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On 9/11/2020 at 7:37 PM, Armchair Critic said:

 

Colt and Larissa are just milking the TLC teat now and they need to be off the show. Basically everyone this season has worn out their welcome at this point.

A to the MEN! Most especially Angela/Mykul, Pol/Karine, Tania/Syngin & Colt/Debbie/Larissa/Eric. Retire them all. But then I see commercials for Darcey/Stacey and The Family Chantal shows and I know our hopes are fruitless. 

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On 9/13/2020 at 9:21 PM, suzywallis said:
On 9/13/2020 at 9:08 PM, endure said:

Why didn't Angela's friend Sissy ask all her stupid questions and comments before they got married, I thought she was rude.

YESSS!  That was so offensive and to do it after the wedding, what the hell??  She was great the whole trip and then that came out! 

After putting up with being treated like a chambermaid as Angela barked out orders — bring the corsages! Get my shoes! Hurry up! Angela thanked her later, but would a few ‘pleases/thank you’s And a kinder, more appreciative tone have killed her? The whole Sissy quizzes Michael over a last dinner was contrived & stupidly cringe-worthy.

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1 hour ago, ChiMama said:

A to the MEN! Most especially Angela/Mykul, Pol/Karine, Tania/Syngin & Colt/Debbie/Larissa/Eric. Retire them all. But then I see commercials for Darcey/Stacey and The Family Chantal shows and I know our hopes are fruitless. 

As long as we keep watching they will keep doling it out unfortunately.  I am totally guilty of hate watching this season but so far have refused to watch the Family Chantal, The Twin Bimbos, or B90 after watching one episode, that’s the show with Ego Ed & Wllted Rose and Asshat Avery  etc etc they are all annoying and unwatchable on that show.

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18 hours ago, monagatuna said:

I was surprised Larissa's butt was hanging out of her gown, after all, she wasn't having anything done south of the navel (right?), so why couldn't she wear pants? My wife confirmed this is something that happened to her too, but her surgery was on her arm. Why won't they let the poor people wear pants if they're not getting any work done below the waist?

I had outpatient knee surgery, and I went in without panties. When I had wrist surgery, which was all of a 10 minute surgery, they gave me mesh panties to wear instead of my regular ones. 

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9 hours ago, 2dogmom said:

colt holding onto the garbage can just grossed me out.  like when you see people getting sick in a public toilet and holding the rim.

 

He had a chunk on his moustache after the first round.  🤢🤢

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14 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Its the exact same story line as Chantel and Pedro's. The husband's families are shown as grasping and greedy, and loud about it. The husband's family demands that he divorce his wife. The wife runs to her family to talk smack about her in laws and her husband, and expects them to fight her battles for her. Both wives have siblings who are creepily over invested in their sister's lives. Everyone is suspicious of everyone else. If Tammy and Easter Island are invited to dinner at Lo and Lisa's, and Tammy is thrown to the floor and has a handful of her hair ripped out while Lisa screams about Immigration, we'll know for sure that the writers have all quit in disgust so we're stuck with recycling the same plots, over and over. 

Its also, with some slight variations, Libby and Andrei's plot, as well.

I take it that Easter Island is Mama A? LOL

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So my take from this episode is that Family Libby really wants their own Family Chantal spin off.  The acting is beyond horrible.  

I'm with others: I miss the real couples, unscripted drama.  Or as unscripted as you can get in the reality TV world.

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11 hours ago, 2dogmom said:

colt holding onto the garbage can just grossed me out.  like when you see people getting sick in a public toilet and holding the rim.

 

Honestly, I don't even hold onto the rim in my own home and I don't lay on the floor draped over the toilet like I see people do on TV.

I've always been such a hands-off puker -- Stand (not sit or kneel) above the toilet, no hands on the toilet (may hands are usually on my knees as I lean over) and get the hell out of the bathroom as soon as I can. Anything else just grosses me out more than the actual puke grosses me out. 

TMI? 

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1 hour ago, hookedontv said:

I've always been such a hands-off puker -- Stand (not sit or kneel) above the toilet, no hands on the toilet (may hands are usually on my knees as I lean over) and get the hell out of the bathroom as soon as I can. Anything else just grosses me out more than the actual puke grosses me out. 

TMI? 

We are all friends here.  Share away!!!

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On 9/14/2020 at 11:46 AM, AZChristian said:

I've had several outpatient procedures done.  The last one was in July - surgery on my horrendously clogged and infected sinuses.  They let me keep my panties on.  But then . . . who really wants to see what's south of the border on a 73-year-old grandmother?  LOL.

I am having sinus surgery in two days.  Of course as I was reading all of this, I was like, can I keep my pants on???   I'm only 59, but no one needs to see that stuff anyway.

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3 minutes ago, Opine said:

I am having sinus surgery in two days.  Of course as I was reading all of this, I was like, can I keep my pants on???   I'm only 59, but no one needs to see that stuff anyway.

Good luck with your surgery! Ask about the pants and report back to us as you recover. 

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I think Libby and Andrei's Moldovan wedding is a series highlight for me. The church was gorgeous and I thought Libby looked so lovely. Libby's family is fairly atrocious, but I think she and Andrei are all right.

In the age of "Doctor Pimple Popper" and "My Feet Are Killing Me," Angela continues to be the grossest thing on TV. Michael's devotion to her is either a sign that he's really in love or he's just that desperate for a spousal visa.

I could have done without all the drama surrounding Larissa's plastic surgery.

It was nice to see Asuelu stand up to his family for once.

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4 minutes ago, mmecorday said:

In the age of "Doctor Pimple Popper" and "My Feet Are Killing Me," Angela continues to be the grossest thing on TV. Michael's devotion to her is either a sign that he's really in love or he's just that desperate for a spousal visa.

This is really true!  A giant cyst can't help itself but Angela CAN do something about her unpleasant personality.

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45 minutes ago, Opine said:

I am having sinus surgery in two days.  Of course as I was reading all of this, I was like, can I keep my pants on???   I'm only 59, but no one needs to see that stuff anyway.

Hope yours goes as well and your recovery is as easy as what I experienced.  The painful part comes today - the bill from the ENT doctor.

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12 hours ago, endure said:
13 hours ago, ChiMama said:

A to the MEN! Most especially Angela/Mykul, Pol/Karine, Tania/Syngin & Colt/Debbie/Larissa/Eric. Retire them all. But then I see commercials for Darcey/Stacey and The Family Chantal shows and I know our hopes are fruitless. 

As long as we keep watching they will keep doling it out unfortunately.  I am totally guilty of hate watching this season but so far have refused to watch the Family Chantal, The Twin Bimbos, or B90 after watching one episode, that’s the show with Ego Ed & Wllted Rose and Asshat Avery  etc etc they are all annoying and unwatchable on that show.

Agreed. I watched 3 episodes. Enough to know that David, Ash, Rose, and Big Ed in particular are all QUITE humorless, delusional, and unlikable.

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