S07.E03: What Am I Worth to You?

[Frozendiva]

Do some of these folks ever call their beloved by their actual name and not baby or love?

Syngin, you are collateral damage for Tania.  Check her calendar to see how she slots you in her life. You are in the US on a fiance visa and not to see what kind of life you want. Check out the she shed first. Time to lose your posse, Tania.

The Russian hospital scene seemed like a modern Dr. Caligari. At least Sasha showed up.

Mursel, you are almost 40. Who cares if you fell in love with a woman who has kids? Your parents can kick and scream and disown you.  Their issue. You have a woman who loves you and wants to make a life with you. Get to know her kids. Step up and be the man you want to be. And learn some English.

Anny, Robert did not live up to his advertisement. You can walk away and go back home to find a wealthier sucker. He lives beyond modestly and he will not buy you an iPhone or designer duds. Get over yourself and if you do not like what you get after knowing him for a day, go home

Michael, stop treating Juliana as an object. The Hummer limo was tacky and ugly American. Vulgar and tasteless. She would prefer a YSL or Chanel bag than that ugly necklace. The porn video suggestion was tasteless. You treated her like an object or fantasy.  You were lucky that your kids made an effort to be nice to her and treat her with respect. They made an effort. To get to know their older sister.

[sealit]

1 hour ago, lovesnark said:

They guy from WA makes me sad I share a state with him. Sequim (pronounced Squim) is beautiful, but if Natalie is hoping to find nightlife and lots to do, she's going to be bummed. It's a really small town on a peninsula and is a ferry trip and over 2 hours from Seattle. Every time Michael said he went 'over to Keev',  I wanted to smack him. At least learn how to pronounce the name of the city your girlfriend lives in. I hope Natalie pronounces Sequim like it's spelled, just to irritate him. He reminds my of a guy I went to grade school with. I ran into him when I was in my 30's and he was still the big, dumb, doofus he was in 6th grade and ended most sentences with 'and stuff' just like Michael. Somehow, I don't think Michael has told his bride to be that her days will be spent riding around in the mud on an ATV and hanging out with his Uncle Bo...........and stuff.

Apparently, it really is pronounced Keev. 
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/entertainment/2019/11/so-long-kiev-hello-keev-impeachment-hearings-teach-americans-actual-pronunciation-of-ukrainian-capital.html%3foutputType=amp
 

And it took me 5 years of living in WA to figure out how to pronounce Sequim and Poulsbo. 

[gavinmac]

15 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Wannabe actress needs a better bra.

Haha, I noticed that too, and I'm a dude who knows nothing about bras. But in that scene where she was wearing the long sleeve green shirt and walking on that street, she was swinging really low like an old lady. 

1 hour ago, lovesnark said:

They guy from WA makes me sad I share a state with him. Sequim (pronounced Squim) is beautiful, but if Natalie is hoping to find nightlife and lots to do, she's going to be bummed. It's a really small town on a peninsula and is a ferry trip and over 2 hours from Seattle. Every time Michael said he went 'over to Keev',  I wanted to smack him. At least learn how to pronounce the name of the city your girlfriend lives in.

Ukrainians actually say "Keev."  But for an English speaker to say "Keev" when speaking English is sort of like saying "I took the Eurostar from London to Par-ee."

Natalie doesn't care about nightlife. She only cares about moving to the USA and reuniting with her best friend. Does her best friend live in Sequim too?

I don't know Natalie could go for the interview and be told "this may take six more months" without getting more specific info about the reason for such a delay or why six more months might be needed. You submit all your papers, you interview, and you get the visa or you don't. They don't take six months to decide or to issue the visa after deciding.

I get the feeling that whole argument between Robert and Anny at the Frying Dutchman was scripted with bad acting.

Michael is an idiot for having Juliana picked up in a hummer limo. It's just going to make her think it's appropriate to spend tons of his money on frivolous things.  He needs to lower his immigrant fiancee's financial expectations, like Robert the Tracy Morgan Soundalike does.

Edited November 18, 2019 by gavinmac

[lovesnark]

23 minutes ago, lizajane said:

So many lovely kids this episode. Don't know what they did to deserve being put through this.

 What in hell was that blue stuff WA Michael was putting in that pond? I hope it is something that controls algae and balances the ph and not some kind of dye to make it look pretty...... Uncle Bo is lucky to be staying there as I  think his other option would have been living on Pioneer Square or wherever the homeless in Seattle are living. Natalie so far seems okay. 

I absolutely cannot stand Tania.  She is a smug, controlling pain in the ass. Her friends are no better and grilling Syringe about kids is in such poor taste and none of their damn business, but if they are a higher priority to her than her man, then there is a bigger problem. And it was so adorable hearing about all the things he wanted to be when he grows up. Barf.

CT Michael the perv has a dual  case of Napoleon and small dick syndrome, with a big dollop of nouveau riche thrown on top. That Hummer limo was some kind of tacky and should be reserved for kids going to high school graduation. So glad we got to see that garish $4000 bauble. I wonder if we will ever see her wear it. Juliana really is a pretty young thing. Holy shit, I haven't seen an apartment like that since Lidia and whathisname. The kids were very sweet and I hope there was some insulin handy after all that sugar that was being consumed. At least there were eggs and sausage.

Every time they showed the delivery room in the hospital I kept visualizing Corny' s face - it's like she and Emily were separated at birth. Glad that the baby was born healthy. I would have been terrified if I were her. Thank goodness Sasha didn't have somewhere else to be, like with the births his first two babies. 

Anna and Murcel are doomed. I am starting to wonder if we are being punked- they both can't possibly be that stupid, or can they ??? I hate what they are putting those boys through.

Robert made a pretty smooth recovery with that Fredericks of Hollywood outfit for Anny. And little Bryson is a darling.

I think he said it was just to change the color of the water. I hope it's non toxic!

Make room for me on the can not stand Tania couch. Syringe nailed it when he said it's her story and he's just a character in it. I'm sure her friends don't do ANYTHING without running it by her first. I  wonder if one of them has ever been allowed to choose the restaurant or movie? I doubt it.

[nutella fitzgerald]

Anna behaves like Mursel and his ill-thought-out plan to pretend she has no kids are some sort of natural disaster she had no control over and just has to deal with. Anyone who happened upon their segments could be forgiven for thinking he moved in after she lost a bet or something, rather than it being a relationship between two alleged adults.

[Callaphera]

17 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Do some of these folks ever call their beloved by their actual name and not baby or love?

So this is weird because I just had this conversation with a friend of mine a few weeks ago but I don't call the husband by his first name when we're talking. He's usually just "babe", as in, "Babe, grab me a drink?" And he calls me the same or "hon". We use each other's names when we talk to other people about each other (or our proper titles of The Husband and The Wife) but not to each other. It feels weirdly unnatural to use our names like that. 

[MajorNelson]

Juliana - "I'm so lucky."  Yes you are, you snagged a rich blind midlife crisis smitten American dude/wallet.

Tania - sheesh!  Her friends are more important Syringe, and will be there after he and she are no longer a couple.  Baby: she'll have a kid with someone else, if not with Syringe. 😮

Robert - I'd be easy to convince this is just a producer driven storyline in toto.  No way Mr. budget existed as a genuine candidate before they met up with him and convinced to bring in a high-dollar expecting DR gal.

[Delete]

Major cringe with no-upper-lip Michael, and his Party City porno hummer.  His kids are great tho, and they welcomed Juliana with such sweetness. 

The multiple mole woman, and The Turkish Mr. Bean had wedding rings on in their segment. I smell a fraud. 

Anny switched gears pretty easily when Robert bought out the ‘fancy’ lingerie. She went from bothered to hot ‘n bothered.

Emily and Sasha’s  new baby friend is pretty darn cute. Sasha could not remember the birth of his other children, because he wasn’t there. If there wasn’t a language barrier for Emily he’d probably skipped gumball #3 being popped out too.

The new couple seem legit. Mike’s  property is gorgeous, and so far I’m not getting anything to snark about. 

but let me leave the worst for last...

Tania. Where to begin: I don’t like her. She’s annoying, and full of herself.  The 
pit hair twirling is exceptionally gross, and weird. It’s not level 10 creepy like Pole’s Mom giving a mound of hair to her son, but it is STRANGE.   
And for an average woman, she high maintenance with an ego to match. Even Naomi Campbell would tell her to take her diva-like demeanor down a notch. Syngin is in a world of hurt, but I’d expect he'll bail on her once he gets a green card. 

I’m finding this season boring  so far. I hope the train wrecks start happening, because it is why we watch. 

 

 

Edited November 18, 2019 by Barbara Please

[renatae]

OK, if Tania is such a goal oriented go-getter, why is she living in a she shed in her mother's back yard? That's like one step down from living in the basement, which at least has heat.

[renatae]

3 hours ago, lizajane said:

CT Michael the perv has a dual  case of Napoleon and small dick syndrome, with a big dollop of nouveau riche thrown on top

Nailed it! 👍

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

When they introduced Uncle Beau I looked over  at my partner in crime and said "meeting ppl like THIS is why 90 day fiance is the best show on television." 

SAVE ANNA'S BOYS from their mom. What it must be doing do their psyches to be rejected that they don't exist by this man and his family. Don't think for a second race isn't a factor here (I am just gonna say it) . Those kids face enough struggle with no dad and what theyve been dealt now they hv a stepdad who will have no capacity to love them .   I think this storyline is dangerous and repulsive and damaging  to these children . Ship him home Anna and have your boys back. 

Michael wanted a straight up quickie BJ in that limo. Gross! Millionaire in a tiny apartment? Um ok..... why not wait 2 weeks and fly Juliana over when he was in the new house????? Their weird closed mouth peck kissing made it awkward.  His kids are GOLD though. 

Emily's birth was total Blair Witch. Yikes. Rusty scalpel in an abandoned asylum.  Scary .

I already FF thru Tania & Syringe (so extra) And Robert / Anny (fake). 

Edited November 18, 2019 by Alonzo Mosely FBI

[Gobi]

1 hour ago, renatae said:

OK, if Tania is such a goal oriented go-getter, why is she living in a she shed in her mother's back yard? That's like one step down from living in the basement, which at least has heat.

It's her manger. After the virgin birth (because Syringe isn't going to contribute to it), she's expecting three wise men to show up with presents.

[IllLitShips]

If I was Anny I would have been offended if my fiance took me to a used clothing store to go shopping after arriving. He should have explained to her before going the clothes were used instead of being sneaky about it or explained to her the current financial situation. I do think her reaction was childish,  but I get it. However I don't believe she wore expensive clothes in the DR. Maybe expensive for them, but she wasn't wearing Versace or Chanel. The men have to be promising these women more than they can offer for the women to come here and have all these demands. I am sure it all roots from pride and not wanting to see poor since these men all have weaknesses for women who have cultural expectations for the man to be the provider. Conversely the men who come from counties where they are expected to be the provider are content with having their American women support them. I wish someone would do a study on these behaviors. I find it to be so interesting. How one's expectations and behaviors change with an American is factored in. Do we really appear to be that rich because of TV? Do other countries not understand television shows are an exaggeration and poor representation of reality? Are Americans really generous or just really gullible and naive? 

In my opinion there is strong naivety because our concept of love is juvenile.  

[winsomeone]

Will Mursel's family ever visit the US? If not, does it really matter whether or not they know that bee lady has three kids?

[brilliantbreakfast]

13 hours ago, RealReality said:

Why would you ever want to have a child with a man who doesn't want to have children? 

These two are going to end up raising a kid he doesn't want in a shed or a free camper van if they can find a sucker. 

They believe, or are told by their mothers/friends (not friends in Tania's case), that "once he sees the baby, he'll change his minds.  That rarely works, BTW.

[Anduril]

3 hours ago, renatae said:

OK, if Tania is such a goal oriented go-getter, why is she living in a she shed in her mother's back yard? That's like one step down from living in the basement, which at least has heat.

She's probably in that shed because of oppression or something.  Whatever it is, it's someone else's fault.  

[blubld43]

6 hours ago, gavinmac said:

Haha, I noticed that too, and I'm a dude who knows nothing about bras. But in that scene where she was wearing the long sleeve green shirt and walking on that street, she was swinging really low like an old lady.

She and Grangela both need to go to Molly's bra place. I noticed on Pillow talk that Molly does look to have excellent undergarments going on, she's also large breasted, but her girls are lifted and under control.

I cannot stand Tania. I'd be willing to bet her big desire for a pregnancy is just so she can get more publicity, "pregnant woman arrested at Senate protest", something like that. A baby would be just another secondary character in her personal movie.

[Gobi]

1 hour ago, brilliantbreakfast said:

They believe, or are told by their mothers/friends (not friends in Tania's case), that "once he sees the baby, he'll change his minds.  That rarely works, BTW.

It worked for Sasha....never mind.

[Mrs. Hanson]

2 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

SAVE ANNA'S BOYS from their mom. What it must be doing do their psyches to be rejected that they don't exist by this man and his family. Don't think for a second race isn't a factor here (I am just gonna say it) . Those kids face enough struggle with no dad and what theyve been dealt now they hv a stepdad who will have no capacity to love them . 

Plus this:  she is straight up telling them:  "It is okay to degrade a woman and treat her as less than she is worth as I am sitting right here, at our table in the backyard, telling Murcel it is okay to do this to me!"

He is gonna tell them on their deathbeds?  There is a happy thought.

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

I noticed that Anna’s moles are in a straight line then I couldn’t unsee it. 

Also, if your significant other has to keep your kids a secret, that is a deal breaker. Period. Full stop. I despise this story. 

[thejuicer]

Juliana is so beautiful and so far seems like a kind person. She was great with Michael's kids. When he brought up "limo porno" I wanted her to smack him across the face.

[Bryce Lynch]

On 11/16/2019 at 11:51 PM, RealReality said:

LOL at the jokes to remind her about the vast power differential.  He must be scared she is going to meet someone her own damn age.  In Greenwich, she could meet a younger man with access to money.  

LOL at syngin who sounds like me when I was five and wanted to be a gymnast, a ballerina, an actress, a singer and an astronaut, if I had time.

His first step is securing the free camper van. 

I'm with you though, maybe I can be on top chef.  I've never made anything more complex than guacamole and stove top stuffing but I really want it!

I am hoping Michael just has a really bad sense of humor and no filter.  Other than the jokes, he seems to treat her pretty well, and Juliana hits it off very well with his kids, so I have some hope this won't be a total disaster.   

I think Syngin took it a bit too literally when he was told that, in America, you can be anything you want to be.  

[Bryce Lynch]

57 minutes ago, blubld43 said:

She and Grangela both need to go to Molly's bra place. I noticed on Pillow talk that Molly does look to have excellent undergarments going on, she's also large breasted, but her girls are lifted and under control.

I cannot stand Tania. I'd be willing to bet her big desire for a pregnancy is just so she can get more publicity, "pregnant woman arrested at Senate protest", something like that. A baby would be just another secondary character in her personal movie.

I'm not sure she wants kids for publicity.  But, your comment about her wanting a kid to be another character in her story (like Syngin) rings, sadly true.

She really seems like a narcissist, who views life as a big stage, with her being the star, and the people around her as supporting characters.   I am afraid she we see her kids as pawns to make her story more interesting.  

[Cammi]

12 hours ago, HoneyyBabyy said:

Even though we know julianna is young she seems to have mental capacity of a 12 year old... i guess the kids will have fun with her after all.. 

Unfortunately I agree. I think she looks around 15 years old, and however sweet she may be, she acts like a pre teen. Look I'll just say it: these men that date young women- fine. No problem, as long as everyone is of legal age. What troubles me is when they are with much younger women (a decade or more younger), and they look AND act extremely young. Obviously Juliana is a tall, thin girl, not much curves. Ok fine... everyone's body type is different. And she seems lovely, however her mannerisms remind me of a young teen. 

I had a friend of a friend who was an escort in Vegas.  I assumed she didn't make a lot of money in her chosen profession. In my opinion she looked less like a woman, and more like a 14 year old kid. But she explained to me that her "act" was the "daddy's girl" role. She dressed very young (think saddle shoes etc.), acted the naïve, girlish role. She was flat chested, no curves. She said she made BANK compared to the "regular girls". She was around 22, but easily looked like a pre-teen. She said she was racking up the money while she still could, before time filled her out. I asked her if it bothered her, being with men who were borderline pedophiles? She said "Actually I feel better about doing it, because I am consenting to the act. And maybe, just maybe, it might stop them from truly hurting someone underage".

Anyway, whenever I see men with a younger woman, I usually don't cringe. Men like young, fertile women, that is no secret. I side eye them only when the younger party clearly looks or acts "underage". Juliana I fits both roles imo. She is cute and sweet yes, but something is off when you introduce your fiancé to your kids and she looks young enough to be their sibling. She literally barely looks old enough to drive. Let's face it, she isn't going to be having political, social or existential conversations with Michael. His behavior towards her, some of the little comments he has made, almost seem predatory to me. He wants that "daddy" role. "You are poor when I am not with you, but no worries, daddy is here to save you. Now let's make a porno in the limo!" Barf

[Spike]

34 minutes ago, thejuicer said:

Juliana is so beautiful and so far seems like a kind person. She was great with Michael's kids. When he brought up "limo porno" I wanted her to smack him across the face.

He also looked especially tubby seated in the limo.  Just ick.

[Anduril]

15 minutes ago, Cammi said:

Unfortunately I agree. I think she looks around 15 years old, and however sweet she may be, she acts like a pre teen. Look I'll just say it: these men that date young women- fine. No problem, as long as everyone is of legal age. What troubles me is when they are with much younger women (a decade or more younger), and they look AND act extremely young. Obviously Juliana is a tall, thin girl, not much curves. Ok fine... everyone's body type is different. And she seems lovely, however her mannerisms remind me of a young teen. 

I had a friend of a friend who was an escort in Vegas.  I assumed she didn't make a lot of money in her chosen profession. In my opinion she looked less like a woman, and more like a 14 year old kid. But she explained to me that her "act" was the "daddy's girl" role. She dressed very young (think saddle shoes etc.), acted the naïve, girlish role. She was flat chested, no curves. She said she made BANK compared to the "regular girls". She was around 22, but easily looked like a pre-teen. She said she was racking up the money while she still could, before time filled her out. I asked her if it bothered her, being with men who were borderline pedophiles? She said "Actually I feel better about doing it, because I am consenting to the act. And maybe, just maybe, it might stop them from truly hurting someone underage".

Anyway, whenever I see men with a younger woman, I usually don't cringe. Men like young, fertile women, that is no secret. I side eye them only when the younger party clearly looks or acts "underage". Juliana I fits both roles imo. She is cute and sweet yes, but something is off when you introduce your fiancé to your kids and she looks young enough to be their sibling. She literally barely looks old enough to drive. Let's face it, she isn't going to be having political, social or existential conversations with Michael. His behavior towards her, some of the little comments he has made, almost seem predatory to me. He wants that "daddy" role. "You are poor when I am not with you, but no worries, daddy is here to save you. Now let's make a porno in the limo!" Barf

I'm always suspicious of men who prefer women who are flat chested and have no curves.  I'm also creeped out by the whole "daddy" thing.  That always makes me think that the woman has been molested.  I'm pretty sure Juliana was a child prostitute "model".  Now at 21, she's too old for some of these men so she'll settle down with a guy who can buy her things so she can just continue being a play thing.  

[Pondlass1]

One couple seem to be wearing wedding rings already?

[seacliffsal]

In the Anna/Mursel relationship, I totally lay the blame for keeping the boys a secret on Anna.  She knew Mursel's position yet she continued to seek out a relationship with him, become engaged, and spend the money to bring him over to the U.S. on a K-1 visa.  She presents herself as the victim and is very passive-aggressive in the discussions about the boys.  However, I believe she knew Mursel's perspective and continued in the relationship in spite of his reluctance to acknowledge her sons.  I really feel for the boys but do not buy the hurt victim role Anna is trying to play.

[Mrs. Hanson]

9 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

In the Anna/Mursel relationship, I totally lay the blame for keeping the boys a secret on Anna.  She knew Mursel's position yet she continued to seek out a relationship with him, become engaged, and spend the money to bring him over to the U.S. on a K-1 visa.  She presents herself as the victim and is very passive-aggressive in the discussions about the boys.  However, I believe she knew Mursel's perspective and continued in the relationship in spite of his reluctance to acknowledge her sons.  I really feel for the boys but do not buy the hurt victim role Anna is trying to play.

I agree - she should have said, like most sane women, "For real?  You want me to keep my kids a secret?  Oh....full stop on the K-1"  But no....she forges ahead.  Dummy.  Even when Murcel was introduced to the kids, she just sat there, passive and watching it get more and MORE awkward! Ugh.  Tania is my #1 loathe this season, Anna is #2.

Edited November 18, 2019 by Mrs. Hanson

[Caseysgirl]

I smell something fishy with “ rich” Michael.  Why is he living in that dump but spending $4000 for a tacky necklace; if he has a Porsche that he’s so proud of, why rent a ridiculous Hummer limo. If he’s so rich, why doesn’t he wear clothes that fit him?  Questions. He’s the only person I feel a visceral dislike for immediately (I’m sure by the end, it will be them all).

[iwasish]

9 hours ago, nutella fitzgerald said:

Anna behaves like Mursel and his ill-thought-out plan to pretend she has no kids are some sort of natural disaster she had no control over and just has to deal with. Anyone who happened upon their segments could be forgiven for thinking he moved in after she lost a bet or something, rather than it being a relationship between two alleged adults.

I wish her older son would send a pic of himself and his brothers to Mursel’s folks with the caption “ Hi Grandpa and Grandma”
 
 

[GladysCravits]

4 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

When they introduced Uncle Beau I looked over  at my partner in crime and said "meeting ppl like THIS is why 90 day fiance is the best show on television." 

SAVE ANNA'S BOYS from their mom. What it must be doing do their psyches to be rejected that they don't exist by this man and his family. Don't think for a second race isn't a factor here (I am just gonna say it) . Those kids face enough struggle with no dad and what theyve been dealt now they hv a stepdad who will have no capacity to love them .   I think this storyline is dangerous and repulsive and damaging  to these children . Ship him home Anna and have your boys back. 

Michael wanted a straight up quickie BJ in that limo. Gross! Millionaire in a tiny apartment? Um ok..... why not wait 2 weeks and fly Juliana over when he was in the new house????? Their weird closed mouth peck kissing made it awkward.  His kids are GOLD though. 

Emily's birth was total Blair Witch. Yikes. Rusty scalpel in an abandoned asylum.  Scary .

I already FF thru Tania & Syringe (so extra) And Robert / Anny (fake). 

Why would any mother allow her children  to be treated like a dirty little secret?

[SevenCostanza]

The bee couple are starting to annoy me.  This storyline about him and his family disapproving of her kids seems forced and producer driven.   Did this conversation never come up before?  He knew before he came here that she had 3 kids so why is it now such a problem?

Big surprise that Robert and Anny are already fighting.

I like Michael's kids a lot.   I couldn't believe what a mess that place was in.  It didn't look like moving mess it looked more like hoarders. 

Syringe was absolutely right when he said "It's your movie and I'm just a character in it".   Everything has to be her way all the time.

That baby was really cute.  I'm glad Sasha had to be there, he needed to see what women have to go through.  Maybe he'll think twice before impregnating someone else. 

[shockermolar]

On 11/16/2019 at 9:33 PM, mamadrama said:

Also Michael: Wanna shoot a limo porno?

In the limo that's all decked out and intended for prom night groups. Which begs the addition of:

Michael: I wish everyone would stop harping on her age

Also Michael: instead of renting a reasonable town car or even a plain stretch limo, I am going to rent a showboating teenage boy's wet-dream stretch hummer with an interior trim in bitchin' colors!!

[Spike]

I know some parents use the nickname “Big Guy” for their son, but is Michael clueless about the double meaning re Max?

[sainte-chapelle]

Michael is a creep but Max and CeeCee were so sweet and welcoming to Julianna. She seemed sweet and grateful that they took the time to research her culture and cook for her. The apt was a mess, instead of a limo and necklace clean the damn place! So far I like Julianna and she seems to respect the kids and their place in their dads life. Get those dollars and run girl!

[Guest]

14 hours ago, HoneyyBabyy said:

Even though we know julianna is young she seems to have mental capacity of a 12 year old... i guess the kids will have fun with her after all.. 

Respectfully disagree! You have to be streetwise to pull yourself up out of bone-grinding poverty like she did and hustle your way onto a yacht in Croatia and land a rich mark. She's young and overwhelmed with nervous excitement. I think she plays up the "little girl" dynamic with Michael because it turns him on (which, given he's the father of an actual little girl...ew). I actually think her asking/teasing the kids about who made which part of breakfast and seeming genuinely delighted to eat it with them showed a lot of forethought and empathy on her part. She wanted to make sure they knew she not only appreciated it, but also is excited to spend time with them. It's a far cry from our usual dead-eyed sugar baby who barely pastes on a fake smile for the kids before whining that they're ruining her chance for dick.

13 hours ago, Inga said:

I am in love with Max and Cece.

That has to be the sweetest welcome any child has ever given a 90 day fiancé. And Julianna was sweet enough to eat the food and enjoy it.

They are so sweet!!!!!! Based on Max's immediate assessment that she's pretty and Dad's "a lucky guy," I got the vibe that he has a tiny crush on Julianna, which is adorable and more age-appropriate than Michael salivating (and worse) all over her.

Julianna is literally the hot babysitter that the oldest middle school boy has a crush on, when in reality she's sleeping with his dad. 

Edited November 18, 2019 by Guest

[BallisticNikki]

On 11/16/2019 at 11:41 PM, mamadrama said:

This asshat seems to "joke" a lot: about how his girlfriend should make a porno minutes within landing, about her alleged poverty when he isn't around...Dude is a real comedian.

Michael is soooo vile! And he reminds me more and more of that other middle aged White guy who was w/ the 19 year old Filipina, Nicki. These women must have stomachs lined w/ steel.

On 11/17/2019 at 11:35 AM, Persnickety1 said:

I found the first hour of this episode ridiculously entertaining.  

That adult version of a tantrum Anny threw in the "exchange" had me rolling on the couch laughing. 

It was HYSTERICAL and I'm going to watch it again just for their scenes in the thrift shop and car. And her pronouncing it "us-ed" made it even funnier. OMG. The shade.😂

14 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

Michael must have a micro penis if that hummer limo he pretended as his is any indication. I actually like Julianna and wish her a young, rich guy once she gets her Green Card. ( or at least  a great modeling career).

In her talking head, she gulped and mumbled, "I hope it...works."

12 hours ago, lovesnark said:

Sequim (pronounced Squim) is beautiful, but if Natalie is hoping to find nightlife and lots to do, she's going to be bummed. It's a really small town on a peninsula and is a ferry trip and over 2 hours from Seattle. ... Somehow, I don't think Michael has told his bride to be that her days will be spent riding around in the mud on an ATV and hanging out with his Uncle Bo...........and stuff.

I kinda liked this guy. But was a bit confused by his situation. He said his family has been in that very small town for 130 yrs. But yet, he bought the 26 acres retail? I would have guessed after a family has been in a tiny town for that many generations, they'd own a good portion of it and would be passing big parcels of it down to the younger generations. And then I Googled how much an acre costs there and I was dumbstruck! Even w/ a very generous family discount, it still cost him a grip, I'm sure! And then what happens if they divorce? No way he'd be able to buy out her interest at this point.  

10 hours ago, nutella fitzgerald said:

Anna behaves like Mursel and his ill-thought-out plan to pretend she has no kids are some sort of natural disaster she had no control over and just has to deal with. 

But yet, he could barely hold a straight face thru any of it. So I'm thinking at least some of this manufactured.

5 hours ago, IllLitShips said:

If I was Anny I would have been offended if my fiance took me to a used clothing store to go shopping after arriving. He should have explained to her before going the clothes were used instead of being sneaky about it

Taking someone you're dating to a thrift store to shop for clothes is so presumptious, cheap and insulting, it would be grounds for a break up (but maybe not in a non k1 situation). WTF is wrong w/ him?? Yes, totally offended. 

3 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Murcel
He is gonna tell them on their deathbeds?  There is a happy thought.

Which he anticipated to be in 10 yrs.🤨

Edited November 18, 2019 by BallisticNikki

[shockermolar]

23 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

He wants to tell his parents about her kid's when his parents are on their deathbeds?

Right? This completely baffled me. I mean you're going to hide this from them until they're about to die (presumably at the exact same time I guess) and THEN tell them so their final all-consuming thoughts will be how disappointed they are in their whore DIL or whatever?

[ethalfrida]

17 hours ago, RealReality said:

So.....Bojangles is a human name?  Interesting.

Wow, Julianna seriously looks 14 years old and this man is talking about limo porn.

Also, Hummer limo feels like prom or fianance bro circa 2010

A very famous man plus a popular song at one time.

15 hours ago, blubld43 said:

I can't wait to find out why Robert is calling Anny names!

He talked to her very disrespectfully. He is rude and I think she should have spoken up and then left. It looks like she was prepared to be his all but found out his weak game plan. I think he pursued her with a bunch of lines that may not have been lies but weren’t quite the truth...

If you respect and love someone you don’t call them names like that. I see why some of these people need to find romance outside the country. They have very little appeal and Robert has no “Mack”... he Is definitely not good with people.

But, Anny was upfront with what she wanted and there seems to be a problem with women who do that. She wants things. He lied. His tightwad butt lied and then treated like he found her on the streets.

13 hours ago, GladysCravits said:

I’ll bet Robert did promise everything Anny says he did.  As usual everyone will say she’s a gold digger and only there for money and what she can get, but why are the mans motives never  brought into question?  It’s obvious what he wanted and it wasn’t to provide her with a better life or because he was in love.  He wants someone to take care of his kid, cook, clean, do laundry and wait for  him to come home so she can fulfill his every fantasy in bed.  She should be satisfied with used clothes and a kid sleeping in the same room!   Why is the  woman always considered the ‘user’?

Exactly.

[shockermolar]

23 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

It was almost like being in a time machine watching Emily go through all of that labor only to have it culminate in a caeserean. 

It was for me too, only sans the caesarean. I even had my no longer little bundle of joy (he's now 21) with me watching that nightmare to boot! For me they just kept me pushing because he wasn't in fetal distress at any point. I hear MY OB tell the nurse, "just keep her pushing, but that baby isn't delivering without forceps" at which point I literally leaned up on my elbows and gritted out "I HEARD that. I'm not pushing anymore and you can't make me." So around hour 28 they whipped out the forceps and pulled that kid out of me.  So as I was watching last night with my son fully freaking out next to me, I leaned over and said, "You're welcome."

[RoxiP]

11 hours ago, lovesnark said:

They guy from WA makes me sad I share a state with him. Sequim (pronounced Squim) is beautiful, but if Natalie is hoping to find nightlife and lots to do, she's going to be bummed. It's a really small town on a peninsula and is a ferry trip and over 2 hours from Seattle. Every time Michael said he went 'over to Keev',  I wanted to smack him. At least learn how to pronounce the name of the city your girlfriend lives in. I hope Natalie pronounces Sequim like it's spelled, just to irritate him. He reminds my of a guy I went to grade school with. I ran into him when I was in my 30's and he was still the big, dumb, doofus he was in 6th grade and ended most sentences with 'and stuff' just like Michael. Somehow, I don't think Michael has told his bride to be that her days will be spent riding around in the mud on an ATV and hanging out with his Uncle Bo...........and stuff.

I presume that his best friend and his Ukrainian bride (her best friend) live nearby - wouldn't she already know what to expect?

[shockermolar]

12 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

I don’t think Juliana looks that young- shes 22, she IS very young. Granted her lanky figure may read to some as a young girl who hasn’t finished puberty yet but I don’t think she looks like a teen any more than a regular 22yrs old.  Many people look exactly the same between 17 and 22. 

I've reached the age where everyone under 30 looks young to me. So I rely on my sons - age 21 and 18 - to double check my brain age math. According to them she acts/dresses/talks/references/looks like a US high school girl in the 15 to 18 age range. They cited specifically the hoodie crop top/joggers she was wearing (which I at first likened to a prison jumpsuit) as specifically something that girls that age are wearing. 

[b2H]

23 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

Bee lady needs to put Bee man on a plane back home.  He wants to tell his parents about her kid's when his parents are on their deathbeds?  Well, there's a pleasant thought.  If anyone would have told me not to tell their family about Mini Persnickety, their ass would have been drop kicked to the curb in about 0.01 seconds.  

I'm still waiting for an explanation as to why he needs to wait 10 years to tell the 'rents.  That doesn't make any sense.

Oh, and Anny?  Here's your plane ticket home.  I agree she may've been misled, thinking that any American is rich, regardless, but her attitude?  She doesn't deserve a damned thing.  Not one.  She's an ungrateful wench and she should just go back to her DR home and have a nice life.  He's no winner either - there're better ways to say things than to bluntly come out with it, but she's just awful.

Edited November 18, 2019 by b2H

[BallisticNikki]

18 hours ago, RealReality said:

So.....Bojangles is a human name?  Interesting.

Wow, Julianna seriously looks 14 years old and this man is talking about limo porn.

Also, Hummer limo feels like prom or fianance bro circa 2010

No, I'm sure that's just a nickname! On the screen, it said his name was "Beau," which is a real name. 

"Mr. Bojangles" was just a nickname for the famous tap dancer/actor/social activist. I think his real name was Bill Robinson.

18 hours ago, RealReality said:

How so these girls not feel like third wheels?

Those friends were AWFUL. Another Heckle & Jeckle pair. Wretched.

[shockermolar]

11 hours ago, lovesnark said:

Every time Michael said he went 'over to Keev',  I wanted to smack him. At least learn how to pronounce the name of the city your girlfriend lives in.

Apparently that IS how it's pronounced in Ukrainian. And it's spelled Kyev. The whole Kiev/Kee-ehv spelling/pronunciation is a Russian thing. See? I'm learning geography from these impeachment hearings! 

[b2H]

13 hours ago, FrancescaFiore said:

Robert: "Far away" for you is the living room. 💀

That's too good for her.  Plane ticket.  Now.

[BallisticNikki]

11 hours ago, lovesnark said:

Every time Michael said he went 'over to Keev',  I wanted to smack him. 

Keev, like Samwa 😆

Edited November 18, 2019 by BallisticNikki

[RoxiP]

1 hour ago, Caseysgirl said:

I smell something fishy with “ rich” Michael.  Why is he living in that dump but spending $4000 for a tacky necklace; if he has a Porsche that he’s so proud of, why rent a ridiculous Hummer limo. If he’s so rich, why doesn’t he wear clothes that fit him?  Questions. He’s the only person I feel a visceral dislike for immediately (I’m sure by the end, it will be them all).

All of that luggage would have never fit in the trunk of a Porsche...just saying!

[Lily247]

10 hours ago, gavinmac said:

Haha, I noticed that too, and I'm a dude who knows nothing about bras. But in that scene where she was wearing the long sleeve green shirt and walking on that street, she was swinging really low like an old lady. 

Ukrainians actually say "Keev."  But for an English speaker to say "Keev" when speaking English is sort of like saying "I took the Eurostar from London to Par-ee."

Natalie doesn't care about nightlife. She only cares about moving to the USA and reuniting with her best friend. Does her best friend live in Sequim too?

I don't know Natalie could go for the interview and be told "this may take six more months" without getting more specific info about the reason for such a delay or why six more months might be needed. You submit all your papers, you interview, and you get the visa or you don't. They don't take six months to decide or to issue the visa after deciding.

I get the feeling that whole argument between Robert and Anny at the Frying Dutchman was scripted with bad acting.

Michael is an idiot for having Juliana picked up in a hummer limo. It's just going to make her think it's appropriate to spend tons of his money on frivolous things.  He needs to lower his immigrant fiancee's financial expectations, like Robert the Tracy Morgan Soundalike does.

Kiev is pronounced, basically,  KEEV. The American pronunciation is for some reason, Kee YEV. But it doesnt sound right at all, it sounds all French and wierd. . The emphasis should be on the KEE, and the YIV is understated.