S14.E04: Breakdown In Beverly Hills

[CrinkleCutCat]

18 minutes ago, Chalby said:

Surely there’s a wonderful man out there who can swoop Emily out of her marriage and therefore, out of her funk. She’s been without a husband for 10 days and I don’t care how many nannies and cooks you have, you need to have time with your mate to talk over the day and decisions needing to be made. He is so detached from his marriage, it’s like we can see he despises his life (and he’s not too thrilled with Emily). He behaves the same way in front of his family, despite Emily always apologizing for him, so this tells me Shane really wants to pass the Bar so he can earn his own money and leave the family. I want Emily to meet a man who loves children, has humour, thinks she’s amazing, admires her work ethic, and listens to her complaints re: the HWs, but say nothing as he knows she will probably say something different next month. Really, how f***ing hard is it to be supportive?

I want her to meet a man who wants to watch her dance...or at least receive the gift of dance that she wants to give!

Edited August 28, 2019 by CrinkleCutCat

[Chalby]

I am 

10 hours ago, tealeaves said:

I want to see Tamra and her trashy family go first,  We've had to put up with them for 12 seasons now.  The good news is that her loser son, Ryan said he has quit the show.  Unfortunately, it took him threatening physical violence against his ex.  Pathetic.

 I am tired of  Vicki and Tamra – time to switch out the OGs. Vicki is simply cuckoo as the gossip she shares is so vague, ridiculous, or slanderous. She lies whenever her lips move and she has a narcissistic personality, meaning… she’s never going to accept blame; won’t initiate an apology, and won't acknowledge the damage she’s inflicted. Tamra’s ongoing pot stirring; accusations that others are starting (or publicly airing) rumours, all WHILE running to tell a HW what’s being said behind her back. (Yet she seems to conveniently leave out her contributions.) Both OGs are so desperate and thirsty to stay in the HW limelight that they’re oblivious of how far-fetched/gutter worthy their negative involvement has become. I love gossip and snark, but lately all the HW’s/Andy shows (incl Southern Charm, etc) are quickly entering into Jerry Springer areas. The Hws' "gossip disclosures" have become more damaging as well as cruel. Instead of alluding to a HW's past discretions (which could possibly be true) they are now dragging random (and nameless others) into the rumours, implying further witnesses to these shocking truths. I feel that if a housewife purposely shares information that‘s not factual, not fully cited, AND has an emotional impact on an entire family, then that character needs to immediately come clean and apologize publicly or get the hell off the show. I don’t want to hear how children are being teased for things shared, or lied about, on television. I also feel these CARTS (can't act so reality TV slump) characters need to think about their spouses and family before signing on to a ‘tell-all’ reality show. Also, they surely know if their family history contains scandals or inappropriate behaviours, so...DON"T SIGN ON!!! 

[Chalby]

10 hours ago, Duke2801 said:

Shane is clearly very off. Way off. But if he was gay, why go through the charade of marrying one woman, having kids, divorcing her—then doing it all over again? Seems like a lot of work. 

I’m confused. Why would Gina wearing a size 26 make you feel fat? She’s a very slim woman (and I’m sure even slimmer in person). 

I thought Shane's involvement in the Mormon religion would deter any coming out, as well as a 2nd divorce. (Thank you as I was unaware he convinced a 2nd woman to marry him... wow!)

Size 26 jean (in old-school jean sizes) is very slim. I remember being 5'7", 120 lbs and thrilled I got into a 28 seafarer jean. (Now... probably a 36, lol) The 28 etc. measurement does not mean a 28 waist as you fit for the hips and then take the waist in.

[Quiet1]

The women were on camera and mic'd. They knew it would be on tv. They should have given Kelly a call as soon as Vicki mentioned it, her true friend did the right thing. And if this is worse than the "coke" story and Kelly is so horrible, what about the men. Name them Vicki. Or is it fine for men to be involved but the woman is horrible. Steve, Eddie maybe? I hope they look back and are ashamed to have been a part of this whole story line. They could have shut it down and just kept saying "none of my business" when interviewed about it. 

[Keywestclubkid]

7 minutes ago, Quiet1 said:

The women were on camera and mic'd. They knew it would be on tv. They should have given Kelly a call as soon as Vicki mentioned it, 

that's the thing Vicki didn't mention it first that was Tamara .. she screamed giggled out you mean the "train" it was Tamara that started this shit show and continued to give details … Vicki is a horrible person but she isn't the one that brought this to the table first that all is Tamara  … now she's gonna try to blame the new girl for telling Kelly when if she didn't say anything No one would be talking about it... that totally pissed me off with Tamara trying to deflect and push the blame on someone else for what clearly she started … she is a shit friend and threw Kelly under the bus and giggled and laughed about it and then went into DETAIL (she is the only one going into  8 guys pulled a train she bang bang banged like this **hitting fist*** etc etc... she needs to be dragged and soon for this 

Edited August 28, 2019 by Keywestclubkid

[Chalby]

On 8/23/2019 at 2:15 PM, AntAnn said:

That’s a new plot twist...NOT!

I love Kelly, but there are so many times when I wonder if her brain processes information at a slower level than the others? Her sense of humour implies a brilliant mind, but her inability to recognize how out of line she is until days after her faux-pas is worrisome. Even Emily’s question re: train rumour wasn’t out of the blue as she wanted to share what Vicky had been saying just prior to the instagram release. Emily is the type who wants the into so she can try to make sense of these two radically different versions of Vicki. Emily (the lawyer) just wasn’t sure Vicky released the post, and wanted to ask more. Kelly needs to count down prior to engaging in a conversation that triggers her. She's too old for these immature knee-jerk responses. She becomes so angry she can’t see or hear reason. Her expectations that friends disclose all is unrealistic given several of the wives had already agreed to discount the rumour and refuse to entertain it further. Cue Vicki and Tamra, as they caused the rumour to resurface and thus, wind up online, and on air. Buh Bye OGs, don’t let the door hit you on your way out…

[Quiet1]

I blame Vicki & Tamra. Vicki brought up that she knew something worse about Kelly. They both knew they were going to put this out there somehow. I even blame Shannon and Gina for being a part of it. 

[Showthyme]

8 hours ago, DivaLasVegas82 said:

I was disappointed that Shannon made a joke about Emily crying when she cried for several seasons because she was in a bad marriage and didn't know a way out. I think Emily is going thru the same thing. But unlike Shannon who was very transparent about her martial issues, Emily is very secretive. I don't know why she joined this show if she didn't want to be honest about her marriage. 

I think that Emily is still processing what is happening in her marriage. Like Shannon, she wants the marriage to work for whatever reasons. 

[Keywestclubkid]

oh and the throwing of Jeff Lewis under the bus by Shannon lol  I didn't say you were/ should be kicked off the show line ..Come on Shannon you know you said it and was just trying to cover your ass,, there is no way Jeff switched it up that much that he became what he said … 

[mon berg]

What is it with women always judging I really don't understand why they can't just be happy.

If Kelly was involved in a train who really cares if that is her thing that's up to her same with if she did take coke.

The way Kelly comes across i wouldn't be surprised if both are true.

It's so true that money can not buy class none of these women have any class.

Gina is a cry baby come on how could you not know he was with someone else then to moan when you split he is still with that same person makes no sense if anythng it's good he has stuck with the same one.

Tamra giving lectures yet she is the worst at stirring and attacking people.

I wonder if these women are really like this or it's all for the cameras.

[Coffeewinewater]

1 minute ago, Showthyme said:

I think that Emily is still processing what is happening in her marriage. Like Shannon, she wants the marriage to work for whatever reasons. 

I agree. We as outsiders, hear that Shane has stayed at hotel for 10 day with no communication with is wife and children and of course we're like,  wake up woman, he's obviously having an affair. Or so over you he can't even be bothered to fake concern that this is hurtful to you. 

She knows this is not right, but to acknowledge that it's not just studying for the bar will make it all to real and ugly.  So she's trying so hard deny what is right in her face. Hopefully she will get there. Nobody deserves to be disrespected. Shane treats her terribly. 

[Quiet1]

3 minutes ago, Coffeewinewater said:

I agree. We as outsiders, hear that Shane has stayed at hotel for 10 day with no communication with is wife and children and of course we're like,  wake up woman, he's obviously having an affair. Or so over you he can't even be bothered to fake concern that this is hurtful to you. 

She knows this is not right, but to acknowledge that it's not just studying for the bar will make it all to real and ugly.  So she's trying so hard deny what is right in her face. Hopefully she will get there. Nobody deserves to be disrespected. Shane treats her terribly. 

Agree. If she acknowledges it she'll have to take action and she's not ready to do that yet. I think she's getting stronger and will get there. 

[SweetieDarling]

12 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Tamra- “We must never speak of this again!  The train!  That’s what we must never speak of!  The rumor is that there were 8 men involved in the train.  Of which we must never speak!  Just to be clear-  We must never speak of the train when Kelly had sex with 8 men in a row.  That’s the train I’m talking about.  No other train.  That train.  The one with eight men and Kelly.  Never speak of it!”

If this is going to last all season, as I suspect it will, OC will be the 2nd HW show I've given up this summer. It's bad enough that only my family knows I watch this mess, but I am not willing to have to explain to my child, passing through the room, what a train is, or more frightening, to find out they already know what it means.

[bosawks]

I feel like someone should break it to Emily that even if Shane passes the bar he's still going to be an asshole.

[amarante]

What Shane's sexual proclivities are who knows. Gay or straight he obviously has no interest in Emily as either a person or a sexual partner. 

I have passed both the California and New York bars (passing on the first attempts both times) and there is absolutely no reason why anyone needs to be holed up incommunicado 24/7. No one is studying 24/7 and "normal" people find it more comfortable to be at home - or at least I did. I am sure there is some type of office in that McMansion where he could be quietly left alone when he is actually studying. Most "normal" people would want the ability to interact with their spouse and children when they take a break.

As I recall the rest of Shane's family isn't Mormon - he converted. If he is a closeted gay, he has the shame from both the Mormon religion and what I would assume is a super-traditional Persian family. Elizabeth Straight's father just left the Mormon Church because he acknowledged that a gay person could not exist within a religion that demonized homosexuality.

I would feel sorry for Emily except that she obviously knew what she was getting in for in terms of the actual emotional intimacy of the relationship when she married him. Based on what she has said about the proposal, they didn't even have the kind of friendship where old friends decide they might as well get married - like Barry Diller marrying Diane Furstenberg where they are spouses in every important emotional way without the sex. 

[Carolina Girl]

6 hours ago, ivygirl said:

I’m a tiny bit surprised that they decided not to go there.

I don't know if they decided or if LVP was already on the outs with RHOBH and said no.  Because goodness knows Bravo likes its crossovers - didn't one of the Shah's appear on another show and of course Bethenney was all over the BH visit to Long Island.  I should think they would have wanted them to eat at Villa Blanca and for Lisa to say hello if possible (if everything was good at the time).

5 hours ago, Kiki777 said:

While Tamra helped spread it, Vicki set the ball rolling.  

I thought it was mentioned that Vicki and Shannon heard it at the same time.  Which makes me think that Michael was the source.   I seem to recall that Shannon mentioned that BOTH David and Steve remained friends with Michael after he and Kelly split and if Michael told the guys then one or the other of them imparted the news when Vicki and Shannon were together.  What I'd like to know is who told Tamra?  I imagine the smart money is on Vicki, judging from that panicked reaction of hers when Tamra said the word "train" at dinner.  Vicki didn't respond with "how do you even know about that" and then give a glare at Shannon.   Unless they both told her together.  Either way, the three of them are disgusting.

[hisbunkie]

5 hours ago, Kiki777 said:

I don't believe the rumor at all.  While Tamra helped spread it, Vicki set the ball rolling.  And while Kelly's anger seems extreme, I get where it comes from.  Someone she barely knows (Brauny) warned her of the rumor while her so-called friends Shannon and Tamra did not.

Absolutely!  This was all Vicki.  The fake concern for Tamra bringing it up was ridiculous. Once again, Vicki knows someone who saw this. Vicki always knows someone who knows someone yet she knew no one who knew Brooks was faking cancer. 

[Carolina Girl]

6 minutes ago, hisbunkie said:

Absolutely!  This was all Vicki.  The fake concern for Tamra bringing it up was ridiculous. Once again, Vicki knows someone who saw this. Vicki always knows someone who knows someone yet she knew no one who knew Brooks was faking cancer. 

I can't help but think this has something to do with her being demoted to "friend of" - I'm not buying Andy's excuse of "we just wanted to shake things up".  I think that whole Phaedra "drugging/rape" allegation based on what she'd heard put the damn fear of God in Bravo production because I don't think there's any contract that would have held up in court if Kandi had wanted to sue her for defamation.  And it would NOT have surprised me if Kandi had threatened just that.  Vicki and her ridiculous "I heard" bullshit is sounding just like Phaedra.  And the allegations are just as smarmy.

[Crazydoxielady]

I believe the train rumors. I believe Kelly had a lot of cocaine on board, and it happened. If it were not true, Kelly would have gotten a lawyer and cease & desist action would have commenced. Just my opinion.  That said, Tamra is disgusting, she is perpetuating the rumor and she knows it. What happened to her born again ways? She needs to re-focus herself on her body/jesus/what have you and stop stirring the pot.

Don't care about Gina. She is not a house wife, she is not a wife, she does not have money. I watch RHW for house porn, car porn, vacation porn..... Gina is checking none of those boxes. Can we bring back the Grinch?  I mean Heather? At least she had all of the aforementioned.... Also... Don't care about Emily and her weird need to dance as a story line this season. Don't care about her fame ho Persian in laws, or her hiding "on the low" husband. We see you Shane, hiding from the camera and dreaming of Eddies ass.

Shannon continues to look amazing. I am so angry Tamballs is critiquing Shannon's body. Shut up Tamra! Not every women needs to take it to the level you did! Shannon looks great and I wish I had the funds for her mini face lift thingy do!

Edited August 28, 2019 by Crazydoxielady

[lamujerdecente]

On 8/28/2019 at 10:10 AM, hisbunkie said:

Absolutely!  This was all Vicki.  The fake concern for Tamra bringing it up was ridiculous. Once again, Vicki knows someone who saw this. Vicki always knows someone who knows someone yet she knew no one who knew Brooks was faking cancer. 

Vicki is a vile racist asshole with the moral compass of a starved water bug. In a famine. On planet Mars. 

However she’s demoted which means this bag of cheap perfume and love and hip hop couture can finally be a possible ex ho wife. Why are any of them, Shannon especially, even trying to protect her? They should be glad to be rid of her.

And Shannon is a really souring for me. The hypocrisy of her being bothered at Emily’s social media war mongering YET how many fights and meltdowns has this chick had and started? 

Really boo?

And no one has to tell you the hard time they are having. Try not being an asshole. 

Edited August 29, 2019 by lamujerdecente

[ErikaAlyson]

13 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I feel bad for Emily.

I think she sees the writing on the wall - Gina is a snake and will X her out.

I think Emily stuck by Gina in her tirade against Shannon and echoed in.

Gina has switched lanes and now Emily looks like the asshole

Yeah I was surprised to see Gina talking about Emily with the other girls. Emily is definitely more of a friend to Gina than Gina is to Emily 

[MissFeatherbottom]

12 hours ago, Maire said:

Braunwyn (?) crying after all the kids and chaos left the house. 🙄 Enough.

I also noticed the camera moving around to show the mess they all left behind...and there she is crying like a baby and ignoring the mess...

[islandgal140]

3 hours ago, Coffeewinewater said:

I agree. We as outsiders, hear that Shane has stayed at hotel for 10 day with no communication with is wife and children and of course we're like,  wake up woman, he's obviously having an affair. Or so over you he can't even be bothered to fake concern that this is hurtful to you. 

I won't pretend to know what Shane is up to in that hotel room for 10 days, don't know if he is gay or straight, cheating or actually studying for the bar like he says he is but I think a part of his staying away is him passive aggressively avoiding being filmed and getting away from the chaos of filming. It is apparent his wife, mother and sister love the cameras but Shane ain't here for it. It showed last season. It shows this seasons. Emily is really trying to create cozy family vignettes (e.g. anniversary "party") and Shane refuses to play along and apparently ain't afraid to appear the asshole. Why Emily wanted to even be on the show with her shit show of a marriage to begin with is what boggles the mind. The same could be said for Shannon. 

I gotta say the Emily/Shane marriage is the most interesting thing of the season so far. I think Emily is a good addition. Gina can go though. I absolutely hate the sound of her voice and she is proving to be a shitty friend. 

11 hours ago, swankie said:

About this train mess.  It's just so junior high school.  I remember it's the kind of rumor you would start about a girl who stole your boyfriend or something.  I can't believe these middle aged women are going there.  I guess this was the best Vicki could come up with to get back at Kelly for calling her a pig.  I'm surprised she didn't spread that Kelly had cooties.  Same mentality.  smdh

This is Tamra rhetoric. Vicki didn't come up with it. Apparently, Shannon and Vicki were together and a 3rd person told them this. Vicki may have gotten the ball rolling with the "I know so much worse shit" but Tamra brought this mess onto the show.

The only trains I want when it comes to the HW are metaphorical train wrecks. This is some unsavory shit. 

There is something very, very low brow about Kelly but I really don't want to know the truth either way. 

11 hours ago, swankie said:

The Bar exam is no joke.  JFK junior failed it twice before passing on his third try.  I really feel for Emily if Shane failed a third time.  I bet he's a triple douche now.  

I feel like such a genius because I took the NY and NJ bar at the same time and passed them both with one try. It was three days of hell though. 

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

that's the thing Vicki didn't mention it first that was Tamara .. she screamed giggled out you mean the "train" it was Tamara that started this shit show and continued to give details … Vicki is a horrible person but she isn't the one that brought this to the table first that all is Tamara  … now she's gonna try to blame the new girl for telling Kelly when if she didn't say anything No one would be talking about it... that totally pissed me off with Tamara trying to deflect and push the blame on someone else for what clearly she started … she is a shit friend and threw Kelly under the bus and giggled and laughed about it and then went into DETAIL (she is the only one going into  8 guys pulled a train she bang bang banged like this **hitting fist*** etc etc... she needs to be dragged and soon for this 

All true. I will say I am loving that Bravo keeps playing the part where it is Tamra that actually mentions it. Keep that foot on her neck Bravo until Kelly gets at it with her red bottom shoes. 

Edited August 28, 2019 by islandgal140

[TV Diva Queen]

So I'm the only one that hated the logo'd crap Shannon and Kelly were wearing in BH? I was surprised by Shannon wearing it, she's a little more Park Avenue/refined type of gal.  I get that logo's are in and those were expensive pieces, but in my mind, there's a time and place for them, that this was neither.

[RHJunkie]

Vicki and Tamra are vile human beings. They actively take part in taking down people and repeating vile information about them but then play innocent when they get called out for their behaviour...meanwhile they get heated when people do the same to them. Um hello, have we forgotten how pissed off she was about Vicki repeating rumours about Eddie being gay? I don't really see how either of these women try to be good Christians. They are going to have a wonderful surprise the day they meet their Lord and he rebukes them for being an accomplice to the damn devil. And I must have missed something but wasn't it Tamra that brought up the train and tried to have the conversation with Shannon about it?

B was absolutely right to tell Kelly as a friend. It's not like it was a private conversation. They put that information out there into the world for all of us to hear. No matter what you think of Kelly, she deserves to know what was said so that she can also use that same platform to defend/address the situation.

It's hard to care much about Emily crying about Shane and especially his lack of interest in attending her lingerie performance when she knew exactly what she was getting when she married him. She cared more about starting a family than she did about who she was starting that family with. Still sucks for her that she has to deal with that but also, it's not like the guy pulled a 180 on her. This is just the perfect opportunity to bring it all to the forefront without it being pushed in her face that she knew what she married.

[Coffeewinewater]

17 minutes ago, TV Diva Queen said:

So I'm the only one that hated the logo'd crap Shannon and Kelly were wearing in BH? I was surprised by Shannon wearing it, she's a little more Park Avenue/refined type of gal.  I get that logo's are in and those were expensive pieces, but in my mind, there's a time and place for them, that this was neither.

I don't get logo splashed pieces.  🙄. Is that supposed look better or just impress some?

I don't know if I'd call shannon refined?  She was the one  we saw jumping in the hot tub in her spanks, yes she wasn't naked like Tamra but still. 😮

OC ladies have always seemed tacky to me. They are the exact woman I could see wearing clothing with a designer's name all over it.

Edited August 28, 2019 by Coffeewinewater

[MissFeatherbottom]

11 hours ago, Dance4Life said:

Tamra is going about this all wrong!  WTF is her problem?

Not only is it being presented as a ‘rumor’........but, think about Jolie! 

Tamra is getting way too much pleasure and it is not cool.

................................

Also, do y’all remember how Tamra was getting pleasure when Gretchen got drunk at her party.......and, Ryan was trying to take advantage of her?

Tamra wanted it all on camera. She is sick getting off on this stuff.

OMG Tamra... I got so annoyed with her  "looks" of shock as the other ladies are arguing during their lunch. She does this ALL the time and acting like she isn't enjoying every minute of it. 

[KungFuBunny]

12 hours ago, breezy424 said:

This train thing is really all on Tamra.  She was the one who brought it up.  She's the one who asked Vicks if she was talking about the train.  She doesn't want anyone to talk about rumors about Eddie but she's the one who introduced the rumor about Kelly.

I don't have a problem with Braun giving Kelly a heads up about the train.  Kelly deserved to know especially since the scene was filmed and there was no doubt that this would make it on air.

Emily and Gina are depressing and uninteresting.  I don't follow any of these women on SM so I was a little lost on Emily's so called nasty posts.

But hey, we got a little flashback of Archie!

I agree Tamra is the most responsible in how this is playing out on camera - I think she is 90% responsible and Tamra's mini me Gina is 10% responsible. For some reason I think they discussed this before filming began. I think this is why Gina said oh so you know something that is worse than being a cocaine addict and also why she told Emily off camera so Emily would bring it up in BH.

Tamra and Shannon were BOTH wrong in not telling Kelly as soon as they heard the rumor. This is what a friend does to give the friend a heads up and forewarn them so that they can figure out how to handle this.

Did anyone notice how Tamra threw Shannon under the bus by saying Vicki AND Shannon heard the rumor?

Team Braunwyn - for telling Kelly as soon as she heard.

Asshole Team - Shannon, Tamra, Gina for discussing this in their TH shots and for discussing this on camera - this is called talking behind your friends back.

Gina was an asshole in telling Emily - I think she presented it as though they (Shannon, Tamra, Braunwyn) are ANTI Vicki and how dare she say something so vile about Kelly. Emily as she tried to say was confused because she just went out with Vicki and what came up was her wanting to move forward. I think the way Gina told Emily was to convince her Gina would have her back if she brought up the rumor in BH and Emily didn't want to end up teamless.

Gina is NOT your friend Emily. If it does come down to either you or Gina holding an Orange, Gina will do everything in her power to wrest it out of your hands.

[islandgal140]

Browned Wind came here to sell us some shite Okurrr! Not only is she plugging her daughter's dance wear line, NOW she is writing a book. After 8 kids, the only thing she can tell me about that I want to hear is how to keep slim and vaginal reconstruction. 

[thesupremediva1]

We are all watching the same show, right? We all see that Tamra is the one who named the rumor, gave it life, and keeps giving it legs to walk on? Because if not, I gotta bounce.

Vicks is classless and she lies and she alluded to it, sure, but none of this is Braunwyn's, Gina's, or Emily's fault. Having watched these first few eps, the person who made this an ON-CAMERA STORYLINE is Tamra. And I hope to God Kelly knows now that she's watching and puts Tamra in her place. Tam-balls is such a gaslighting bitch. I have never had any respect for her but my visceral dislike of hers grows season after season. 

[Dance4Life]

Emily is for sure promoting this event on the show.  She name dropped the Queen of Versailles and her hotel.

How many times did that choreographer lady say

her full name and dance team? 🤣

 Yea....I forgot.  Emily does parties as a side hustle. Def. a promotion.

Nice try.. tying to pull it off as an ‘anniversary’ party. 

Now, I do not blame Shane for not attending.  It is all a sham. 

I am starting to think Shane  just doesn’t like to film the show. 

It is really embarrassing for him.....because, it is kinda trashy.

Emily is feeling rejected on this project of ‘hers’ too.  (Being a housewife)  

Last season...Shane would not have a baby girl with her.  

Leave Shane alone!!!

He doesn’t want to be on a show with a bunch of drunk insatiable women! 

(Shane is acting like Simon. Next season they will be divorced and Shane won’t allow the kids on the show). Divorce party for Emily! 🥳

Edited August 28, 2019 by Dance4Life

[biakbiak]

5 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

like. I think Emily wanted a happy, romantic, fun marriage to an involved husband and father. Shane just wanted to marry to his best friend, no extra effort, or behavior changes necessary.

He proposed over gchat so if that is what she wanted she is delusional.

[MajorNelson]

1 hour ago, RHJunkie said:

It's hard to care much about Emily crying about Shane and especially his lack of interest in attending her lingerie performance when she knew exactly what she was getting when she married him.

Side note, the "dance"....is going to have topless dancers all around Emily, while she remains covered.  Personally, I just don't know what she is thinking....24 dancing boobs all around her, and saying "tada" to her husband.  😮

[Dance4Life]

1 minute ago, MajorNelson said:

Side note, the "dance"....is going to have topless dancers all around Emily, while she remains covered.  Personally, I just don't know what she is thinking....24 dancing boobs all around her, and saying "tada" to her husband.  😮

It is burlesque. They are just tits!  Tits are beautiful! 🙌🏻

[Natalie68]

14 hours ago, tealeaves said:

I want to see Tamra and her trashy family go first,  We've had to put up with them for 12 seasons now.  The good news is that her loser son, Ryan said he has quit the show.  Unfortunately, it took him threatening physical violence against his ex.  Pathetic.

I could live with this scenario.  Wonder how long before Ryan ends up in prison?  He has the look (and actions) of someone that will blow one day.

[Pop Tart]

11 hours ago, Sarah Heart said:

I've tried to like Emily, but this poor me cr@p has to stop Plus I think she has a very nasty side to her,jumping all over Shannon without checking. Spoiling Gina's day,not that she noticed, she's such a twerp. I have no time for Gina.

Yes this was the kicker for me with Emily. Her crying and dramatics at Gina's shopping treat was pretty deliberate. Her participation was full of many dramatic sighs and sitting off to the side all "woe is me". I believe she even made a comment about how Gina was getting this day but what about her, Emily? So when she then drew Gina out of the group fun of her getting a new outfit, literally getting her outside where Gina ends up comforting and 'there, there-ing' her. 

I still don't care what Kelly may have done or not done with however many people - that is her business. And I'm convinced that it was Michael who told Vicki, perhaps on one of his double dates with her and her boyfriend (? can't remember his name). But regardless it is TAMRA who is responsible for bringing this into the light of the cameras. I don't doubt that there was discussion with Vicki and perhaps Gina before that dinner about getting it out there, but she is the one who said it. And she's the one who said 8 men on camera. 

For her to now (post-filming) to be all about how Kelly is the worst, most evil person will be something I'll be giving serious side-eye to for the rest of the season. From what I can tell they have a serious falling out near the end of the season and Tamra is trying to put it all on crazy Kelly. But if it's based on Kelly finding out that Tamra is the one who initially aired this, then I will have to be on team Kelly (though I know she's a complete mess of a person).

[ivygirl]

4 hours ago, Chalby said:

Surely there’s a wonderful man out there who can swoop Emily out of her marriage and therefore, out of her funk. She’s been without a husband for 10 days and I don’t care how many nannies and cooks you have, you need to have time with your mate to talk over the day and decisions needing to be made. He is so detached from his marriage, it’s like we can see he despises his life (and he’s not too thrilled with Emily). He behaves the same way in front of his family, despite Emily always apologizing for him, so this tells me Shane really wants to pass the Bar so he can earn his own money and leave the family. I want Emily to meet a man who loves children, has humour, thinks she’s amazing, admires her work ethic, and listens to her complaints re: the HWs, but say nothing as he knows she will probably say something different next month. Really, how f***ing hard is it to be supportive?

Forget Emily... where can *I* meet a guy like this? I’m more than happy to skip the first marriage to a dbag who hides from me at every  opportunity...

[nexxie]

10 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

Tamra keeps stirring the pot with every chance she gets, then in the TH acts innocents and absolves herself of any blame.

She even said in a TH that gossip was bad!

Classic gaslighting.

[ivygirl]

21 minutes ago, MajorNelson said:

Side note, the "dance"....is going to have topless dancers all around Emily, while she remains covered.  Personally, I just don't know what she is thinking....24 dancing boobs all around her, and saying "tada" to her husband.  😮

How about saying “ta-tas” to her husband? 😉

[Dance4Life]

12 hours ago, Shannah Banana said:

Do you know this for fact? Also, if Kelli is insatiable, why would it not be consensual?

Because this is not normal outside of porn, swinging and prostitution.

 

A lot of women become insatiable and promiscuous due to mental health and addiction issues.

 

It is one thing to get blitzed one night and regret sleeping with someone.  But....8!!!!

It is not cool to talk about it in that kind of way...anymore. 

 

It has taken a dark turn.

 

These woman all keep chatting about it and taking great pleasure that it is in front of the cameras and millions of people will know about it when the show airs.

Then it is being presented as a rumor and they are not even bothered to be repulsed by it.  Instead.....they are ALL giddy!

 

I can understand the obsession to gossip  if one of these HWs was actually present and showing concern........but they are all gossiping about a rape-like sexual encounter  to hurt a woman. 

 

Kelly should just quit the show because what is the point being around these women???? She needs to stop filming with her daughter! She needs privacy from her mother’s reputation. 

 

Teresa’s daughter Gabriella and Tamra’s Sydney had a good sense about this show.  Wishing Jolie gets a clue.....if Kelly comes back next season.

[Natalie68]

15 hours ago, Andi27 said:

Emily knows the Queen of Versailles!

Did she think this would be something brag-worthy?  Well bless her little heart.  She knows an extremely trashy (supposed) wealthy person.  

[nexxie]

2 hours ago, MissFeatherbottom said:

I also noticed the camera moving around to show the mess they all left behind...and there she is crying like a baby and ignoring the mess...

I figured the nannies went with the kids and the housekeeper would come in the morning. Sad Mom just has to pour a glass of wine and carry it to her bubble bath - if she knows how to work the faucets.

[Dance4Life]

5 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Did she think this would be something brag-worthy?  Well bless her little heart.  She knows an extremely trashy (supposed) wealthy person.  

👑 Queen of Versailles has been trolling Bravo lately.  She was also on Below Deck Med this season. 

[Natalie68]

14 hours ago, breezy424 said:

This train thing is really all on Tamra.  She was the one who brought it up.  She's the one who asked Vicks if she was talking about the train.  She doesn't want anyone to talk about rumors about Eddie but she's the one who introduced the rumor about Kelly.

I don't have a problem with Braun giving Kelly a heads up about the train.  Kelly deserved to know especially since the scene was filmed and there was no doubt that this would make it on air.

Emily and Gina are depressing and uninteresting.  I don't follow any of these women on SM so I was a little lost on Emily's so called nasty posts.

But hey, we got a little flashback of Archie!

I am not a Kelly fan and think she can be both effin crazy and kinda funny but this outing of a supposed train is WAY out of bounds (like the cocaine accusations).  She has a young daughter and I would be concerned for a friend if I heard these sorts of rumors about them.  Maybe give her the heads up OFF screen.  Was she sober?  Did she know this was happening and was she down for it?  Did these people take advantage of her etc.  All because she called Vicki fat/the pig thing.  Whatever.  Vicki, Tamra, and by association for not shutting this shit down, Shannon, are trash.  This show has sunk very far and I am surprised it had anywhere lower to go.  

Gina bugs the shit out of me.  None of her scenes are genuine and I think she is putting it on.  

[Carolina Girl]

2 hours ago, TV Diva Queen said:

So I'm the only one that hated the logo'd crap Shannon and Kelly were wearing in BH? I was surprised by Shannon wearing it, she's a little more Park Avenue/refined type of gal.  I get that logo's are in and those were expensive pieces, but in my mind, there's a time and place for them, that this was neither.

The way they were acting on the street, the regulars on Rodeo probably thought they were ridiculous fans from out of town and had seen "Pretty Women" once too often.   

[Carolina Girl]

1 hour ago, Coffeewinewater said:

I don't get logo splashed pieces.  🙄. Is that supposed look better or just impress some?

I don't know if I'd call shannon refined?  She was the one  we saw jumping in the hot tub in her spanks, yes she wasn't naked like Tamra but still. 😮

OC ladies have always seemed tacky to me. They are the exact woman I could see wearing clothing with a designer's name all over it.

Every time someone SQUEES over a "Birken Bag" all I can think is "what a completely ostentatious and idiot thing - a $13,000 purse. 

If I'm going to write a check for $13,000 to make myself feel worthwhile, it will have "St. Jude's" or "Shriners Hospitals" in the "payable to" line.  

[Emmeline]

13 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

So, do we think Kelly was Amtraked or not?

I certainly don’t.   Frankly, I would find this hard to believe of any woman who isn’t a paid prostitute.  Of all the things I’ve heard over the years, on any of the shows, this is the most egregious.  It’s so bad, it couldn’t even be producer driven or story line.  I truly feel terrible for Jolie.  Vicki, Tamra and Bravo should be ashamed for running with this.

[Coffeewinewater]

1 hour ago, Emmeline said:

I certainly don’t.   Frankly, I would find this hard to believe of any woman who isn’t a paid prostitute.  Of all the things I’ve heard over the years, on any of the shows, this is the most egregious.  It’s so bad, it couldn’t even be producer driven or story line.  I truly feel terrible for Jolie.  Vicki, Tamra and Bravo should be ashamed for running with this.

I have a hard time believing it too. 

As someone else mentioned in another post back in jr high it was always a rumor started to make a girl look bad ( I can't believe these grown women are talking about a friend like this.) What woman would willingly do this? I'm not saying Kelly probably hasn't done a few threesomes 😉 but this "train" thing, why? 

Edited August 28, 2019 by Coffeewinewater

[LibertarianSlut]

I am so counting Gina's drinks.  When she met with Tamra for dinner and the waiter came over to see what she wanted to drink, she pointed to Tamra's red wine and asked for "one of those."  Gina, it doesn't fail to be alcohol if you don't name it.  Later on in that scene they had switched to white wine, so they each had at least two glasses.  Gina was drinking at the store in BH to the point where she was slurring her words to Emily, and, of course, at the BH restaurant.  She's not even trying to hide it anymore.  

I think the losing of the keys and the passport is indicitave of binge drinking and blacking out.  I'm calling it now--Gina is a hot mess with alcohol.  Big time.  

I don't know if not being able to write one's name at four is an indication of lack of fine motor skills, but the way Gina talked about the problem with her daughter, she implied multiple doctor visits, as in, Matt will show up to the doctor, but that's all he'll do.  Even more of a reason to get off the sauce for a hot minute.

It was eerie to me how quickly Gina seemed to bounce from living off of Matt's dime to living off of Shannon's dime.  Suddenly Shannon is her bestie and Emily is dust because...Shannon's paying.  Gina totally strikes me as someone who would become romantically involved with Shannon in a heartbeat if it meant Shannon let her move in with her kids and paid for things.  She seems kinda transactional that way.  I don't think she married relatively early and had kids because that's just what people do on Long Island.  I think she didn't want to work a job, and still doesn't.

Emily--yeah, echoing everyone's sentiments--that shit with Shane isn't normal.  At first I thought he was studying at a library for 12 hours a day, so maybe he was gone for 14 hours if you count travel.  The fact that she hasn't seen her damn husband for 10 days (probably longer) is a horse of a different color.  Get ahead of it girl, don't let it drag you.  Maybe she's waiting to see if he passes the bar before she files.  Long wait...

If I agree with Tamra on anything, it's that Emily should watch what she posts on social media.  A female attorney in Florida recently got suspended from practice for...unorthodox, shall we say, social media posts.  I was also a little aghast that she was standing outside the store on Rodeo Drive crying, saying she was having a panic attack and then saying she doesn't feel like she's being a good lawyer.  Like, she is in this state of mind and she is presently representing clients?  That can't be good for your practice to have that air on TV.  

I only know Jeff Lewis from catching an occasional episode of his renovation show here or there, but he seems like a pretty straight shooter.  I believe that Shannon said something to the effect of what he implied aka that Gina or Emily may be gone from the "friend group."  I think Shannon is lying if she says she was merely mentioning the women to Jeff Lewis and he extrapolated from nothing that one of them might be dropped from the show. Why didn't Shannon just say, "yeah, I did say that to Jeff.  That's what it looked like to me.  I'm not thrilled that he repeated it on-air, but it's what I said."  What could anyone really object to about that?  But you start lying and it's all downhill from there.  Now you don't have the high ground anymore, Shannon.

Now that I've seen Braunwynn with straight hair, she keeps reminding me of Gretchen Rossi and sometimes Stephanie from RH Dallas.  The big hair ages her.

[ghoulina]

5 hours ago, Chalby said:

Surely there’s a wonderful man out there who can swoop Emily out of her marriage and therefore, out of her funk.

Or maybe she should swoop herself out, work on herself, and the man will come later. Emily is smart and capable. I hate seeing her relying on that loser for her happiness. Standing on her own two feet would do wonders for her confidence. Right now she's too vulnerable; another asshole could easily take advantage of that.