Finals, Training Camp and Social Media

[pisces125]

Alexis: Wow she is photogenic!

Gina: I am a huge fan of Gina.  I am surprised how many people aren't!  Great dance technique, never saw anything that made her seem like she has a bad attitude. If anything I like that she is more reserved than some of the other girls.

Lacey and Kashara:  I know everyone here loves Kashara.  I get that she has the DCC appeal, and Lacey and her are both very photogenic.  But it seems like Lacey and Kashara get all the time they devote to vets!  I want to hear interviews from the others

Maddie: I am surprised they haven't done more to help w her hair.  I see what people mean about her being soft in the middle but I like having a team that's not ONLY stick thin girls

Savannah: MY FAVE!!!!  Love her beautiful red hair and her personality

Tasha: I actually think looks like she has maybe had too much work done... but her personality is great for DCC

Rookie Rachel: Tbh her personality seems overly rehearsed to me... don't love her. too pageant 

fave rookies: Cianna and Gabby 

Kristin and Malena: PLEASE come back next year!! Liked them more than some of the rookies that made it (but I understand they had to be cut for dance mistakes)

Ashley pro: prob my fave former DCC. I miss her and courtney russ

Edited October 20, 2018 by pisces125

[Pinknblue]

On 20/10/2018 at 12:25 PM, sleepyjean said:

 

Fair enough, but how would you feel if your job, with it's high stakes and extensive application and training period was filmed, chopped up for tv, your experience molded into a dramatic story-line, and aired, and then you had to listen to a bunch of people who don't really understand that application and training process or the daily grind of your job (but think they do) dissecting your every move and going on about how you you're doing it wrong?I just think it's different when you're the one under the microscope for all the world to comment on.

I think Judy had a very human and understandable reaction. While viewers have every right to watch the show and form their own opinions, for Judy this isn't tv. This is her job every day, day after day for almost 30 years. She does not edit the show and does not control which stories are told and how. So yeah, she's had enough of low-information viewers Monday morning quarterbacking her decisions and her qualifications. I can't say I blame her. I don't believe that just because people are on tv or are celebrities that they don't have the same emotions and frailties as anyone else. For the most part, she handles it with grace. Occasionally it gets to her. I have no problem with that.

Nope. This is 13 seasons now. They give the girls media training and it’s a big part of the job to handle everything with tact. Judy knows very well not to bite. 

I’ve been there, deserved it less and copped FAR worse, and managed to keep my mouth shut and be gracious.

Judy - sit the f down and be grateful for your platform 

Edited October 20, 2018 by Pinknblue

[Pinknblue]

(*potentially on your couch)

[hannahbanana]

8 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said:

That's the thing, I wouldn't allow it (the filming of my job) for a variety of reasons.  But they agreed to it.  

But did she agree to it? Or was she told by TPTB that there was going to be a show about training camp? I don't think Judy has as much power as some thinks she does.

And, for the record, I thought the post was funny -- you could tell it was out of frustration (& most likely tiredness). I think way too many people are taking it way too personally.

[parrotfeathers]

6 hours ago, Law Mom said:

  I suspect that they are letting her stay because they really want her to get that extra training and work on the choreo for a full year, but she doesn't know that. She was a bundle of nerves last night.

Performance nerves can be very hard to conquer.  I have them when I show my dog.  And believe me, those nerves travel right down the leash to the dog.  Usually it is 80% the handler and 20% the dog in the ring.  If you aren't confident, your dog knows it, thinks it is doing something wrong, and loses its confidence too because it thinks it is disappointing you.  I've worked on it 5 years and probably will always be a bundle of nerves.  I certainly understand Malena's problem.  It is infuriating.  

[PrincessLeia]

9 hours ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

I’m sorry if I missed this up thread, but is anyone else wondering whether Kelli’s comment about “anyone who thought Victoria was a shoo in” was directed at the rumors on this board?

There were a lot of comments Kelli made that felt like they were directed at this board! ?

[Amk2017]

Finally watching the episode and I can’t believe Tara was cut before VK.  I’m sorry but VK looked terrible in the kick line, her kicks looked terrible and it looks like she puts pressure on those around her to hold herself up.  Look how she made Amy (veteran) mess up her kick in the last episode.  She is so not ready to be on the team but has been giving more chances than any other candidate.  Any other candidate would have been cute a long time ago.  They are ruining any credibility about world class and better not cut anyone else for weight or at least give them as long of as a chance as Victoria.  You know she will be back next year, she will struggle with weight and she will make the team while others who work harder and take it seriously. 

[Pinknblue]

On 20/10/2018 at 10:50 PM, hannahbanana said:

But did she agree to it? Or was she told by TPTB that there was going to be a show about training camp? I don't think Judy has as much power as some thinks she does.

And, for the record, I thought the post was funny -- you could tell it was out of frustration (& most likely tiredness). I think way too many people are taking it way too personally.

If you really detest elements of your job, you can simply leave! Given that she’s been through over a decade of filming I’m guessing it’s fine with her.

People will always react when they are condescended to.

[MTTFan]

12 minutes ago, PrincessLeia said:

There were a lot of comments Kelli made that felt like they were directed at this board! ?

I kind of thought that the comment was meant to dispel the rumors that VK had been guaranteed a spot -- maybe not only to the board but also to VK and TK?

[tinabee1967]

7 hours ago, MTTFan said:

 

Take the hint CMT, Charlotte, Kelli and Judy:  in TV parlance your show is coming awfully close to "jumping the shark" and losing whatever goodwill and credibility it had in the past.

I predict they will give VK her own show which will perpetuate the spoiled Southern girl stereotype. As far as the latter part of your statement, it is too late. Their credibility just got cremated and dumped out to sea to swim with the fishes.

[Amk2017]

Also, Kelli was so much nicer and complimentary to VK than to Dayton.  Praising her and being rude to Dayton.  Just very disappointing since Kelli had known both girls their whole life.  

[LadyMsJay]

10 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Do you think there will come a time when the DCC don't have to cake on the makeup? They are looking outdated.

No. They always have to be "camera ready."

[MTTFan]

8 minutes ago, tinabee1967 said:

I predict they will give VK her own show which will perpetuate the spoiled Southern girl stereotype. As far as the latter part of your statement, it is too late. Their credibility just got cremated and dumped out to sea to swim with the fishes.

I can't even imagine the resentment other TCCs would feel if VK got her own show and part of the storyline was to follow her through camp again.

I can't imagine wanting to watch a mean girl reality show but then again, I don't get Paris Hilton or the Kardashians either.

 

F*ck, I must be old.   *sgh*

[sleepyjean]

8 hours ago, Law Mom said:

The bottom line is that if this were the worse case of favoritism in the world, Victoria would be on the team. All that happened was that she was cut later rather than sooner.  

This. This all day long. In the end I don't care how long they kept her. She's not on the team. 

7 hours ago, Law Mom said:

Judy doesn't care if there is a show. She just wants to do her job without constantly being criticized by people who think they know everything, but don't.

Also this.

7 hours ago, MTTFan said:

I would be careful, those same fans may not be viewing next year.

I doubt Judy cares about this at all. When the show ends, she'll miss the extra money and invites to cmt events but that's probably all she'll miss.

1 hour ago, hannahbanana said:

But did she agree to it? Or was she told by TPTB that there was going to be a show about training camp? I don't think Judy has as much power as some thinks she does.

And, for the record, I thought the post was funny -- you could tell it was out of frustration (& most likely tiredness). I think way too many people are taking it way too personally.

Agree to all of this, especially the first part. She had no choice if she wanted to keep her job.

And for the second part, it's interesting to see people get so defensive about their opinions. It happens whenever there is criticism of the fans or this board. The snark is allowed here, but everyone on the show must be above reproach, I guess. One of the many reasons I'd never want to be on TV.

[MTTFan]

5 minutes ago, Amk2017 said:

Also, Kelli was so much nicer and complimentary to VK than to Dayton.  Praising her and being rude to Dayton.  Just very disappointing since Kelli had known both girls their whole life.  

 

Trying to preserve a friendship.

@ShellyB you obviously have great character.  I would be mad as hell.

[sleepyjean]

16 minutes ago, tinabee1967 said:

I predict they will give VK her own show which will perpetuate the spoiled Southern girl stereotype. 

I would be astounded if this happened, but I'd watch at least the first couple of episodes. I don't hate VK and I'd be interested to see how they approach it. I'll give any show that touches on the professional dance world a chance.

[Misscarlett]

18 minutes ago, Amk2017 said:

Also, Kelli was so much nicer and complimentary to VK than to Dayton.  Praising her and being rude to Dayton.  Just very disappointing since Kelli had known both girls their whole life.  

Yes! I had stuck up for Victoria on here early on--until Dayton was cut and I finally saw the light.  Dayton was amazing compared to Victoria! Looks, style and potential ability.  It seemed like what she had to work on was extremely minor compared to Victoria and that she would have been great. I watch this show with my husband and teen daughters and they also think this show has gone off the rails this season. I would rather see more of Judi and some of the veterans making decisions rather than Kelli. 

[SmpIsimon]

VK was also bragging to people about being guaranteed a spot. I think Kelli’s comment was also intended to try and convince those folks it wasn’t true. 

[Opine]

10 hours ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

I’m sorry if I missed this up thread, but is anyone else wondering whether Kelli’s comment about “anyone who thought Victoria was a shoo in” was directed at the rumors on this board?

Absolutely!  And I think Judy removed the couch comment because of us!

[JustRosie]

Are there any more updates about VK possibly getting her own show in her lead up to auditions?  Just wondering. 

[bigskygirl]

I have not seen the episode yet because I-tunes has not downloaded it yet, but I think Judy does not care to be on the show. She probably wishes CMT would go away, but Kelli and Charlotte love the attention the show brings to them, so as long as the ratings are good and the money keeps rolling in, the show will continue. I do admit I do not care for all the Cassie/Judy play up on the show, and I have heard some interesting things about Cassie not being the model DCC she was made out to be, but I do agree with Judy 99.9% of the time.

[SmpIsimon]

5 minutes ago, MamaV said:

Are there any more updates about VK possibly getting her own show in her lead up to auditions?  Just wondering. 

Only that Tina is trying hard to make that happen. 

[MTTFan]

1 minute ago, SmpIsimon said:

Only that Tina is trying hard to make that happen. 

The ultimate stage mother.

[bigskygirl]

1 hour ago, SmpIsimon said:

Only that Tina is trying hard to make that happen. 

Why does Tina believe people would want to watch it. Is CMT desperate enough to let Victoria have her own show?

[Opine]

43 minutes ago, MTTFan said:

Trying to preserve a friendship.

@ShellyB you obviously have great character.  I would be mad as hell.

We don't know that she's not.  All we do know is that if she is, she has enough class and intelligence not the blather about it on these boards or any other public forum!  :)

[MTTFan]

2 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

Why does Tina believe people would want to watch it. Is CMT desperate enough to let Victoria have her own show?

If true, because VK is her little girl and she is looking for another bite of the limelight -- keep in mind that if Vk has a show, her mother is bound to be part of it.  Probably wants a little of what Kelli has with MTT.

Edited October 20, 2018 by MTTFan

[AAEBoiler]

1 hour ago, PrincessLeia said:

There were a lot of comments Kelli made that felt like they were directed at this board!

I disagree with this totally since these segments were actually filmed over 8 weeks ago, way before any of this bubbled up.

[MTTFan]

1 minute ago, Opine said:

We don't know that she's not.  All we do know is that if she is, she has enough class and intelligence not the blather about it on these boards or any other public forum!  :)

Very true.  Which means that she gets props for having that much more character.

1 minute ago, AAEBoiler said:

I disagree with this totally since these segments were actually filmed over 8 weeks ago, way before any of this bubbled up.

keep in mind that this board follows the camp in real time -- not just when the show airs.

[Pinknblue]

On 21/10/2018 at 12:47 AM, Opine said:

Absolutely!  And I think Judy removed the couch comment because of us!

 

There’s not that many of us here! I think she probably knew, herself, that her comment was a bit much and regretted it... fair enough.

 

On 21/10/2018 at 12:58 AM, MamaV said:

Are there any more updates about VK possibly getting her own show in her lead up to auditions?  Just wondering. 

 

Omg everyone STOP talking about it - or they will think it’s a popular idea and will take it seriously...

[Hummingbird24]

1 hour ago, KnyghtRyder said:

I completely agree with you that Judy probably doesn't get much (or any) say regarding the show/editing/etc. It probably feeds her frustration, to which I'm sympathetic. Her employer made the decision to do it.  After 13 years, she knows viewers only get to see small segments of what happens. She knows that viewers are going to form opinions based on those small segments. She's had 13 years to learn how to control her emotional reaction and deal with it in a professional manner. Maybe this season was her breaking point. ??‍♀️ 

People get wrapped around the axel 'bout all kinds of things on here depending on their own pet peeves. KaSharas accent, who should be point, Kelli's blue boots (which I freaking loved, btw), the list goes on. And quite frankly, I probably wouldn't have had any reaction to Judys tweet if she hadn't made the couch comment because that happens to be my pet peeve for a variety of reasons.

So again in this instance - and just IMO, which isn't going to change - her ire is misdirected. That's all. 

Actually if Judy would have just told everyone who "@'d" her with their anger about the episode to go "F*ck themselves," I might have just laughed. I prefer bluntness over passive aggression. Of course she'd have been put in the social media dungeon for all of eternity. Or maybe the actually dungeon. We'd never see her or her glorious hair again. ?

I'm going to move on from Tweetgate now. To ask why the hell iTunes doesn't have the episode ready for download yet ?.

Yes!! I’m still waiting. Stupid iTunes.

[MyFavShows]

I don’t mind Judy’s couch comment - she’s actually right - we see extremely edited/carefully selected snippets of these girls dancing, and most of the time it’s cause the producers are trying to create a storyline.  With enough dance footage you can find enough clips to make the worst dancer look like the best and vice versa.  Same goes with Kelli, Judy and GC comments - you can pick out pieces of their statements and make it sound like they hate someone they like and vice versa.  

[cherryblossom]

Never been a fan of VK but was pleased with how she handled the dismissal including saying she would do what it takes next year or however long it takes. Surprised she was acknowledging it might take longer than a year.  She showed maturity being concerned about Kelli. I also saw a young girl whose heart was literally breaking. That is a piece of who would be a great DCC. Now she has to put the rest of the pieces together.

 

i felt like Judy’s yellow stool has changed color or has faded over time. Ohhh they could auction it off!

[LadyMsJay]

1 hour ago, Opine said:

Absolutely!  And I think Judy removed the couch comment because of us!

I seriously doubt that. She likely just realized it was a bit much and deleted it herself. Don't give us TOO much credit lol

[Holly85]

35 minutes ago, Hummingbird24 said:

Yes!! I’m still waiting. Stupid iTunes.

I ended up buying the episode on amazon bc I heard sometimes iTunes don’t do every episode 

[Thebiglebowski]

In other news. MEGAMILLIONS is now up to 1.6BILLION. gives your thumbs a break from blabbering about VK and go buy some tickets...

[Tuxcat]

22 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

I don’t mind Judy’s couch comment - she’s actually right - we see extremely edited/carefully selected snippets of these girls dancing, and most of the time it’s cause the producers are trying to create a storyline.  With enough dance footage you can find enough clips to make the worst dancer look like the best and vice versa.  Same goes with Kelli, Judy and GC comments - you can pick out pieces of their statements and make it sound like they hate someone they like and vice versa.  

I agree with this. Reality TV is not reality. Blame everything on CMT. They looked at VK and thought "ratings gold." They probably thought she was extremely likable and will provide at least 2 seasons of interest. Look on her Instagram and she is getting so many "I love you!" and "you are the greatest dancer" comments.

[Lolfordays]

49 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

I don’t mind Judy’s couch comment - she’s actually right - we see extremely edited/carefully selected snippets of these girls dancing, and most of the time it’s cause the producers are trying to create a storyline.  With enough dance footage you can find enough clips to make the worst dancer look like the best and vice versa.  Same goes with Kelli, Judy and GC comments - you can pick out pieces of their statements and make it sound like they hate someone they like and vice versa.  

That is true. A great way to avoid that is to not do a reality TV show, Judy.

[UnicornKicks]

On 10/18/2018 at 12:33 AM, rose711 said:

I don’t think Kelli is giving up picking the team until she retires. I do wish she delegated it more. She’s made mistakes the past few years, in my view. She’s not getting better at picking the team than she was 5 years ago.

i wonder how much they drew out cuts to just extend to 13 episodes.  Remember how  Kristin was cut and then not cut in an episode and then made it a few weeks longer? 

Yeah no way is she turning over picking the team to anyone else and guarantee they'll consult her when she does retire in 20 years. 

On 10/18/2018 at 12:38 AM, scorpio1031 said:

I think she was just a second set of eyeballs, and someone who could help the girls with posing.  I hope she didn’t help choose the final photos.  They weren’t that great as we’ve discussed.  

This. 

On 10/18/2018 at 2:06 PM, LaurenBrook said:

I think Jenn K's choreo is fine and the classes she teaches seem to truly be useful - not just with their 'power and projection' but also with becoming more aware of how DCC are expected to act (mature, professional, etc.)  She seems to offer real encouragement and information that helps a lot of girls. 

THAT said, I think Jenn lets her own quirks define her decisions too often.  I don't want to say petty reasons because sometimes she DOES have valid critiques (like a low kick).  But her definition of 'pop' and even her rude judgment of Kashara based solely on her accent...I lose some respect for her and take her overall criticisms with a grain of salt. 

as for her weight, she DID just have a baby and was pregnant for a lot of the past year lol.  Normally I know she works hard to be in shape, she's never been ripped.   

100% to all this. She's always been about the brand and not the friendships. She's more Kelli Jr than anybody. I also hate her for judging and acting superior to sombody with an accent she thought she was above. 

On 10/18/2018 at 3:49 PM, LaurenBrook said:

I don't think they were dissing Lacey; they love Lacey.  Kash is more dynamic for point, the only criticisms I ever hear for Lacey are how soft she is. she's clean but she doesn't have the power and pop that Kashara does.  Kash stepped up a lot last year, particularly when she went from being a second leader to running Erica's group.  I think she just impressed them a lot.  My heart was so full when Judy praised her again this year saying Kash did a great job and she had no reason not to make her point again.

My money is on Lacey being pro bowl tho this year!  she deserves it for sure.  

Jenn is a go - getter; I admire that aspect of her SO much.  She is just one of those people who sets a goal and goes for it.  

All this again. Lacey is too timid to do all the speaking Point ends up doing, and not as powerful. She comes off scared and unsure, so they can't even just have her stand there and smile like they did with Whitney. Who knows with HOlly bc they all but hid her from speaking. It's a shame with Lacey. 

On 10/18/2018 at 5:10 PM, Jess14 said:

I definitely think Erica was in running pre-injury and dismissal. By saying Jenna was the obvious choice, I was mainly just referring to their actions the prior year, where they tested her at point a few times, and she did well there (im assuming they felt the same, since she initially got the point position last year). I’m certainly not implying she was a slam dunk. Holly A getting point over Emma was surprising to me, so they definitely don’t always do what is expected.

Holly P at point actually would’ve surprised me. I don’t know why actually lol. Its just a feeling. I actually wonder if Holly would’ve gotten point over Kashara, if she hadn’t been involved in the drama, and it had just been Jenna who was in trouble. I guess we’ll never know, but I think Kashara had the better position in the triangle in the first place. I should put the disclaimer though that while I think Holly is one of the most talented dancers they’ve ever had, I never thought she was a standout in DCC style. I prefer to watch Jenna, Kashara, and Erica in DCC choreo, so that may affect my opinion here.

Yeah that triangle wouldve been Jenna/Erica/Holly.

On 10/19/2018 at 12:15 AM, EricaShadows said:

Was that in a previous episode and I don't remember it (which is entirely possible) or tonight's episode which I am SO excited to watch but have to wait until iTunes pops it up.

In many years, she's struggled to find enough girls who are pretty and can dance so, while she would LIKE a squad of 40, she wouldn't have been able to legitimately been able to find that many.  This year would have been an exception if Victoria had been cut MUCH earlier in the season and not dragged to the end in the hopes that enough other girls screwed up so she could get a spot without having to cut her or expand the squad JUST so she could have a spot.

There have been MANY girls on the squad who have been 18 when they made the squad (Lacey, Jenna, Brooke Sorenson, and Dara McFarlane to name a few) and have been mature for their age.  I think it's Victoria's general behavior overall as well as Kelli's overtly blatant favoritism towards her (which Victoria couldn't help to a degree, but certainly took advantage of) that turned people off.  I don't know about anyone else, but if I was shown such favoritism (either in a job search or actually AT my work), I'd at least make sure I'd get at least a second and third opinion from other people who I know are aware of the situation and WON"T sugar coat their answers to make sure that what I'm experiencing is what's actually going on.  If it is, I'd ask that it please stop because it's hurting me rather than helping me and not allowing me to grow, change and expand my role in the company.  It's not in my nature just as making sure I really AM tougher on those I have a personal or lifelong connection to in order to make sure that they've earned the spot instead of my input being the reason they GOT the spot.

Brooke was not 18.

On 10/19/2018 at 7:36 AM, PrincessLeia said:

I don’t understand these photos at all. I have several things to say, but I’m going to refrain because I don’t feel like arguing on the boards today. ?

Tacky and desperate like she's trying to simulateously trying to brag "I'm preggers, be jealous, but look I'm still hot and thrown in a flag bc I'm ALL AMERICAN''. Just weird.

12 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Remember the posts from years past when the girls would come in and their locker would be filled with their sponsor's products - makeup and hair. I remember Bedhead was one.  During Season 1, the had announced the team, and Kelli said it was time to get ready and they showed Nicole getting her braces checked and Kandi was using Mario Badescu products.  I remember thinking, Wow!  High end sponsors:)  If they are still sponsored, they might be getting shadow, liner, mascara, etc, and hair products.

 

Zinc beauty was sponsoring makeup unless they changed again. 

12 hours ago, kevinrm27 said:

Prediction: If VK makes the team in 2019 (God forbid...), she will be Point at some time during her time as a Veteran on the squad. Guaranteed.

I predict one year, two max for her. Just to say she was a DCC. 

9 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

This makes me wonder how much of an advantage these recruited girls have over regular girls who have “a dream” and go tryout.  Like what percentage make it into camp that weren’t recruited, and what percentage of recruited girls get cut at semis/finals...   Like if the DCC doesn’t know who you are beforehand, how much of s shot do you really even have?

HUGE ADVANTAGE but that is not exclusive to DCC. THat's just dance. I'd say for DCC like maybe 2-3 come from out of the blue and make it to camp. Most are either recruited, referred, or known from prep class. 

[sleepyjean]

1 hour ago, Lolfordays said:

That is true. A great way to avoid that is to not do a reality TV show, Judy.

Very easy to say. Not so easy to do.

I doubt Charlotte gave her the option to opt-out of the show, and if that's the case, the only other thing Judy could have done was resign. That's not a simple thing...resigning from a position you've had for your entire adult life, when it's all you know how to do, and you have bills to pay and a lifestyle to support.

(1) When the show started Cassie was still in high school, possibly headed toward college. You don't walk away from a good paying job under those circumstances. And Judy would have had no reason to. She wouldn't have known what this show would turn into and how social media would blow up to everyone having an opinion about how she does her job. The internet was a very different place in 2005.

(2) Now she's 60 and nearing the end of her career. No other NFL teams are looking for (or have budget for) an artistic director such as herself. They need an actual choreographer to create and teach dances. I don't think she can do that anymore.

(3) Even if she could, I can't imagine her going to another NFL or NBA team, as she would consider that a step down.

(4) She makes very good money with the DCC, in part because of the show. I don't know what other career options are out there for her that would afford her the living she has now. I'm sure she could do some sort of consulting, but NFL cheerleading is a real niche field. I don't know if her credentials are as impressive outside of this sphere and what kind of money that would translate into. What I do know is nobody with sense makes a move to downgrade their pay as they approach the end of their career.

(5) This show is almost over. 13 years is a good run. Now it is descending into drama and foolishness like every other reality show. I give it five more years max. At this point, she might as well hang in there. She'll retire within the next 5-10 years anyway.

[TexasBorn]

12 hours ago, Law Mom said:

The bottom line is that if this were the worse case of favoritism in the world, Victoria would be on the team. All that happened was that she was cut later rather than sooner.  She was not qualified this year and should not have made it, and she didn't.  So what that she hung around a little longer? The final team was not affected in any way.  I think Malena's case is worse. Yes, she is beautiful and professional, but she can't do the dance part. And this is a dance team. She is a far greater risk  to the organization than Victoria or Tara.  I suspect that they are letting her stay because they really want her to get that extra training and work on the choreo for a full year, but she doesn't know that. She was a bundle of nerves last night.

90% of being a DCC is the ability to perform flawlessly under a high amount of pressure. That's what training camp is all about. Not wahhhh "I didn't get show group."

[Holly85]

21 minutes ago, TexasBorn said:

90% of being a DCC is the ability to perform flawlessly under a high amount of pressure. That's what training camp is all about. Not wahhhh "I didn't get show group."

A lot of people want to be on show group cause they get all the extra perks like traveling for shows and such 

[go4luca]

16 hours ago, PBSLover said:

There are great eye make-up removers that remove waterproof mascara. New formulas where the make-up sort of melts off. 

Neutrogena oil free eye makeup remover.  It's been my go to for water proof mascara removal for over a decade.

[PBSLover]

4 hours ago, AAEBoiler said:

I disagree with this totally since these segments were actually filmed over 8 weeks ago, way before any of this bubbled up.

 

4 hours ago, MTTFan said:

keep in mind that this board follows the camp in real time -- not just when the show airs.

Stuff was leaking from the start of training camp this year. And it got back to TPTB. 

[go4luca]

47 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

Very easy to say. Not so easy to do.

[snip]

(5) This show is almost over. 13 years is a good run. Now it is descending into drama and foolishness like every other reality show. I give it five more years max. At this point, she might as well hang in there. She'll retire within the next 5-10 years anyway.

100% co-sign. 

[PBSLover]

50 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

This show is almost over. 13 years is a good run. Now it is descending into drama and foolishness like every other reality show. I give it five more years max. At this point, she might as well hang in there. She'll retire within the next 5-10 years anyway.

I don’t believe this. The show had the highest ratings ever this season for CMT. The Dallas Cowboys organization loves that their brand is shown/highlighted on an international cable network.

7 minutes ago, go4luca said:

Neutrogena oil free eye makeup remover.  It's been my go to for water proof mascara removal for over a decade.

A LOT of beauty YouTubers/influencers have mentioned this as their ‘holy grail’ for removing waterproof mascara as well as some hardcore eye make-up brands.

[go4luca]

15 minutes ago, PBSLover said:

I don’t believe this. The show had the highest ratings ever this season for CMT. The Dallas Cowboys organization loves that their brand is shown/highlighted on an international cable network.

HA!  The varying views on this board crack me up!  You know I adore you @PBSLover! 

It will be interesting to see where this show goes in the next few years.  Especially in light of all the recent headlines regarding fair pay for cheerleaders.  Who knows.  If the Cowboys organization decides to be the forerunner in setting the trend for higher pay and benefits for the cheerleaders, it could keep the show going for quite a few more years.

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[TexasBorn]

22 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

A lot of people want to be on show group cause they get all the extra perks like traveling for shows and such 

A lot of people can humbly accept rejection and disappointment without affecting the quality their performance. It's called "performing under  pressure".

[PBSLover]

2 minutes ago, go4luca said:

HA!  The varying views on this board crack me up!  You know I adore you @PBSLover! 

It will be interesting to see where this show goes in the next few years.  Especially in light of all the recent headlines regarding fair pay for cheerleaders.  Who knows.  If the Cowboys organization decides to be the forerunner in setting the trend for higher pay and benefits for the cheerleaders, it could keep the show going on for quite a few more years.

That’s true. Love you too!!!!!

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[bigskygirl]

2 hours ago, sleepyjean said:

Very easy to say. Not so easy to do.

I doubt Charlotte gave her the option to opt-out of the show, and if that's the case, the only other thing Judy could have done was resign. That's not a simple thing...resigning from a position you've had for your entire adult life, when it's all you know how to do, and you have bills to pay and a lifestyle to support.

(1) When the show started Cassie was still in high school, possibly headed toward college. You don't walk away from a good paying job under those circumstances. And Judy would have had no reason to. She wouldn't have known what this show would turn into and how social media would blow up to everyone having an opinion about how she does her job. The internet was a very different place in 2005.

(2) Now she's 60 and nearing the end of her career. No other NFL teams are looking for (or have budget for) an artistic director such as herself. They need an actual choreographer to create and teach dances. I don't think she can do that anymore.

(3) Even if she could, I can't imagine her going to another NFL or NBA team, as she would consider that a step down.

(4) She makes very good money with the DCC, in part because of the show. I don't know what other career options are out there for her that would afford her the living she has now. I'm sure she could do some sort of consulting, but NFL cheerleading is a real niche field. I don't know if her credentials are as impressive outside of this sphere and what kind of money that would translate into. What I do know is nobody with sense makes a move to downgrade their pay as they approach the end of their career.

(5) This show is almost over. 13 years is a good run. Now it is descending into drama and foolishness like every other reality show. I give it five more years max. At this point, she might as well hang in there. She'll retire within the next 5-10 years anyway.

Judy's husband does well with his business, so I do not think Judy is in it for the money. She probably enjoys what she does and likes being with the girls, but being on a reality television show for 13 years can wear a person down. I have no clue if her husband is retired, but I think they would survive money wise if she decided to hang it up.

[go4luca]

8 minutes ago, PBSLover said:

A LOT of beauty YouTubers/influencers have mentioned this as their ‘holy grail’ for removing waterproof mascara as well as some hardcore eye make-up brands.

I have normal to dry skin so need gentle products and this fits the bill for me.  There are also some great holy grail (HG) products in Korean beauty products.  Especially if you do the double cleanse method for makeup removal.

To keep this sort of on topic re: DCC

Thanks to that video @scorpio1031 shared, I have now discovered an odd DCC factoid:  Using deodorant on the face to control perspiration.  Wow.