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Loren and Alexei seem to be the only legitimate relationship. Alexei did not seem to necessarily want to come the US until he met Loren. It doesn't seem like he was using her to get a green card like the other foreigners who sought to come over. He was very conflicted leaving his family in Israel, and if he had not met Loren, it seems he would have been very happy staying there.

As for Danielle and Mohammed, he was definitely scamming her from the beginning just to come over and get a green card.  He knew she was an easy target and could be easily fooled. When he arrived in the US, he did seem genuinely happy to be here, but not because of Danielle, but for the opportunity to be here. He is an opportunist and a user.  It's true, Danielle made some bad decisions and fell for his bull, but she seems a bit naive and appears to have had several disadvantages in her life that made her vulnerable. Mohammed should go back to his country.  It's obvious that he did not have good intentions to be in a legitimate relationship with Danielle, and does not seem to have much to contribute to this country.

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At least no Jorge and Anfisa tonight! 

It occurred to me after watching the rehash and re-rehash of Chanel's argument with Mama and Sister Pedro...Sister said "punto" which Chantel misheard as "puta" so she went ballistic and said to the camera, "Did she just call me a (bleeping) BITCH?" No, technically she NEVER used the Spanish word for "bitch", Chantel misheard the word for WHORE! No wonder Mama and Sister were confused and Mama even honestly said, "I never heard her use that word." 

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18 minutes ago, SoshulMeedya said:

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Mother and Sister Pedro are annoying, but Chantel doesn't help by getting mad over everything. If you want to make peace, you try to find common ground, and you swallow a little pride.

If she told them in a sincere and calm way that she loves Pedro and wants them all to be a family and get along, that would go a long way to diffuse things. Yes, I know they are obnoxious, but they are what she got for inlaws, so may as well try to make it work.

1)  Oh!  Thank you!  It didn't flag as misspelled.  Totally my bad.

2) 100% agree.  Chantel, however, lacks the maturity and foresight to understand that you have to give to get sometimes, especially as it relates to family.  Personally, I have a fairly mean and terrible mother in law.  She's cruel to her son (my husband) and to me.  I'm not going to fight that with more ugly.  I don't want to put my husband in a more difficult position, and I'm not going to win a war with someone like her.   I have expressed that I love her son and we have made a good life together.  She isn't a part of my marriage b/c we have boundaries.  Additionally, I think that Pedro has to do the same with Family Chantel too.  And both need to create some significant boundaries and "rules of engagement" in how we are going to talk to and about each other.   Neither seem to be willing to stand up and back away from emotional responses, though.

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I got really angry watching Pedro's dead eye stare while his family torn down his (idiot of a) wife.

I would be shocked if these are still together a year from now. Aside from the language barrier (which is considerable,**) Pedro and Chantel just do not communicate well at all. A lot of the drama could be resolved if they sat down with a counselor and/or translator and had an honest and candid conversation about their income, how much they planned to contribute to household expenses, and what role their parents will play in their lives.

** = I know Chantel said she met Pedro while she was in the Dominican Republic to practice her Spanish, but I speak elementary Spanish better than she does, and I am NOWHERE near being fluent. And while Pedro's English has improved considerably since the first season, it's going to be a long time before he's anywhere near fluent. Maybe I'm just projecting, but I can't imagine what it would be like to be in that situation and to be unable to have a discussion with my significant other about life, family, or politics, in a meaningful way.
 

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3 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Funny how the lingerie she was wearing for the vid covered up more skin than what Russ approved her to wear.

I thought her body looked puffy and nowhere near toned enough to carry off all those criss-cross straps. 

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2 hours ago, TrininisaScorp said:

Pao.  Wow.  Seriously.  Either pony up and stick your ass out or don't.  Camera drama and telling any fool who will listen is a true lack of professionalism.  "My husband" and "My husband".  Sweetie, no one gives a shit.  You are there for one thing and one thing only:  Put on the cheap lingerie and shhhh.  BTW, this video seems mad sketchy and low rent. 

So much word!  She is so unprofessional and so immature.  

Mo does not yet get it.  Even his lawyer can't seem to make him get it.  He did not pass go, did not get $200 and does not GET TO stay in America even if she did fraud him (his words).  It's like he feels he is on glue.  You know when you played tag as a kid and could be on glue?  He did not break through the line in Red Rover, he did not capture the flag, coming to America is not a feature in the game of Life and, most importantly, he is not pictured in the doorway of Mystery Date.

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5 hours ago, Chippings said:

"So I am going to Court to tell the Judge what Mohammed has done.."

I haven't seen it yet, but it's more likely that Danielle leaves out the word "has."   Is it true that she's going to have a makeover that will be televised.  Anyone have the details?

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6 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

Pao's shoot looked like a porn shoot. BTW the s and m bikini showed way more than the white lingerie 

I know, right! I think the white lingerie looked angelic compared to that strappy bikini number. To be honest, I'm not sure why Russ is hung up on the whole lingerie thing... like the world is seeing your wife's tits and ass regardless of whether she's in a lingerie bra or skanky bikini top. It's the same thing. 

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2 hours ago, magemaud said:

I thought her body looked puffy and nowhere near toned enough to carry off all those criss-cross straps. 

THIS!!!  OMG!!!  I thought that maybe I was just being harsh!!!  Maybe our Spicy Latina should have laid off the Guisado for a couple of weeks before the shoot.

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Chantel believes she has too much invested in the relationship to let it go. She will give in. That will be her life for the next 30 years. Pedro will threaten to go back to the DR, Chantel will give in. Pedro will get all loud and stabby fingerish, Chantel will give in. Pedro will call her stupid, Chantel will give in. I bet in 10 years she'll be 20 pounds overweight,  no makeup, no manicure, and no self esteem. She won't even be giving in anymore, because she will have learned that it's not worth it to disagree.

Middle aged dumps are often made rather than born.

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10 hours ago, Kid said:

What a nice moment!!!  That was a wonderful thing Alexai did.

I knew the week before when lorens father encouraged him to go that it would happen.

I have this bad feeling we are going to be left hanging after next week.

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I really don't want to stick up for Chantel (who seems to own nothing except clubbing dresses), but it's not okay for Mother Pedro to expect her to respect Dominican culture while she refuses to respect American culture.

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25 minutes ago, Swim mom said:

Chantel believes she has too much invested in the relationship to let it go. She will give in. That will be her life for the next 30 years. Pedro will threaten to go back to the DR, Chantel will give in. Pedro will get all loud and stabby fingerish, Chantel will give in. Pedro will call her stupid, Chantel will give in. I bet in 10 years she'll be 20 pounds overweight,  no makeup, no manicure, and no self esteem. She won't even be giving in anymore, because she will have learned that it's not worth it to disagree.

Middle aged dumps are often made rather than born.

10 years?  Try three to five.  Chantel, please please PLEASE just admit you made a mistake and divorce and move on. 

 

9 hours ago, TrininisaScorp said:

Culture culture culture, bullshit.  His mom straight up said it is okay Chantel is at the bottom of the barrel so they can be  higher up, and said that was their culture?  Cmon, man.  Respecting your mother is culture.  Taking care of your mother is culture.  Treating your wife as less than?  That isn't culture.  

Bolding mine.  I would be ashamed to say to my new French fiance (he isn't but let's pretend he is) "Look, we treat our in law's like shit and are rude and passive aggressive, so get with it!  That is our culture, baby!"  "Mi amore, babeee....."  Ugh.  No, good culture is being respectful BOTH ways.  Heck I did not call my future in laws by their first names until we were engaged, (Mr/Mrs In Law until then) and even then I asked permission!!!  (They said yes btw)

4 minutes ago, nlkm9 said:

I knew the week before when lorens father encouraged him to go that it would happen.

What did he do?

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2 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

10 years?  Try three to five.  Chantel, please please PLEASE just admit you made a mistake and divorce and move on. 

 

Bolding mine.  I would be ashamed to say to my new French fiance (he isn't but let's pretend he is) "Look, we treat our in law's like shit and are rude and passive aggressive, so get with it!  That is our culture, baby!"  "Mi amore, babeee....."  Ugh.  No, good culture is being respectful BOTH ways.  Heck I did not call my future in laws by their first names until we were engaged, (Mr/Mrs In Law until then) and even then I asked permission!!!  (They said yes btw)

What did he do?

he told alexei that loren needed the support at her first speech.....it was obvious he wanted him to go, and production would make it happen.

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Maybe it has been mentioned before... But does Pao remind anyone else of Sofia Vergara? I know they're both from Columbia, but even their nose and the shape of their face is similar. I wonder if that's who's footsteps she's trying to follow. If so, I bet she can't wait to hear "Paola- the next Sofia Vergara." ??

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42 minutes ago, MFLEM2 said:

If so, I bet she can't wait to hear "Paola- the next Sofia Vergara." ??

The thing is, Pao... the world doesn't need another Sofia Vergara.  That woman hasn't aged in 15 years.  She's the Everlasting Gobstopper of Colombian actresses, we'll never need to replace her.

Pao's not even a good actress when she tells Ross she "loaves him/is on his side."

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23 minutes ago, Drogo said:

The thing is, Pao... the world doesn't need another Sofia Vergara.  That woman hasn't aged in 15 years.  She's the Everlasting Gobstopper of Colombian actresses, we'll never need to replace her.

Pao's not even a good actress when she tells Ross she "loaves him/is on his side."

This is true! 

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So what if they canceled the DR wedding, they are already married!  Chantal and Pedro are not going to last, his mother will see to it, after he has syphoned off enough money from her or Parents Chantal pay him off to skidaddle.

Loren and Alexei were not annoying at all.

Pao and her fake barfing.  So the strappy covering nothing bathing suit was okay but the lingerie was not?  Someone please explain the difference to me.  While she was filming they were not even playing the music of the video for a sense of the vibe of the video, it looked awkward.  She put a robe on over the lingerie and the director said she looked different?  Most models cover up between shots.  I thought Pao said that the director found her thru FB but then he said he saw her on IG. 

I can't wait to see Russ's reaction to the Visa bill when he sees the travel and hotel expenses on it. 

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10 hours ago, magemaud said:

It occurred to me after watching the rehash and re-rehash of Chanel's argument with Mama and Sister Pedro...Sister said "punto" which Chantel misheard as "puta" so she went ballistic and said to the camera, "Did she just call me a (bleeping) BITCH?" No, technically she NEVER used the Spanish word for "bitch", Chantel misheard the word for WHORE! 

Nicole didn't say "p---", but when Chantel asked her if she called her the B word, she was quick to say "Jess."  Clearly it's what she had in mind. 

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9 hours ago, magemaud said:

I thought her body looked puffy and nowhere near toned enough to carry off all those criss-cross straps. 

she IS puffy and has cellulite. The pics she posts are  photoshopped unless she has lost 30 pounds or so

2 hours ago, MFLEM2 said:

aybe it has been mentioned before... But does Pao remind anyone else of Sofia Vergara? I know they're both from Columbia, but even their nose and the shape of their face is similar. I wonder if that's who's footsteps she's trying to follow. If so, I bet she can't wait to hear "Paola- the next Sofia Vergara." ?

they all go to the same Plastic Surgeon. Watch Ms Universe and see how all the girls from Columbia look alike

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So I just watched 10 + minutes of Mohammit and Danielle get dressed to go to court talking about 'today is the day.' Is this what their story line has come to?

Danielle? Horizontal stripes? Really?

Biggest cheap laugh for me was Pedro slamming the door on the camera man like he was a Jehovah's witness.

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Wouldn't be surprised if Pao was being paid in hair extensions for that video. Going from Miami to Yersey to shoot a reggaeton video sounds all kinds of wrong. When I think reggaeton, I think sand, surf, yachts, exotic cars and flossing in a seaside mansion. Not some ex-real housewives of NJ rental home. 

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14 hours ago, Kid said:

What a nice moment!!!  That was a wonderful thing Alexai did.

I really do think they are in love and the only couple that is going to make it.  Of course that does make for boring TV, but it is kind of nice after the skeevyness of Dani and Mohammed. 

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I realize all of this is staged, but it was strange that both Mohammed and Danielle went to court empty handed. Where were the piles of "evidence" they have both been collecting? Is Danielle's 3 ring binder still in Florida?

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Okay, even though I don't really like Loren, I did have a couple of tears in my eye when Alexi surprised her in Washington.  Her reaction was totally real-they really did surprise her with that.  I also felt like their story was now ended-they are in love and happy, and will face future difficulties together.

Pao was annoying.  What did she expect in terms of her outfit?  All the photos that she HAD to have taken for her "career" were either just as revealing or more so.  She acted surprised that she was expected to show so much skin.  As for being a 'sought after' model-I think the artist specifically wanted her as he would get exposure on television.  It was all about how much publicity he would get and nothing about her being 'perfect' for the video.  I so laughed when a previous poster noted that Russ will be footing the bill for the travel portion of the job as that is so exactly right.  Russ needs to just cut the ties here as he really should realize that she does not care one bit about him, his values, his career, and his feelings.  

I thought that Pedro had a valid point when he told Chantal that her family treats him in a similar way to how his family treats her.  Only, he has been the recipient for a year whereas she has been a recipient for a week.  She has demonstrated an acceptance of one's family treating one's spouse horribly; therefore, she really doesn't have a moral high ground to stand on regarding his family.  Chantal also seems to not realize that her Spanish really is not as fluent as she thinks and is part of the problem in that she does not fully understand the conversations.  I applaud her for trying to learn Spanish and use it in communicating with Pedro and his family.  However, it is not enough.  Somebody just needs to say "enough" and end this relationship.  If they do part, there will be ongoing issues through the divorce, etc., but at least they would be able to move on with someone else.  

Danielle and Mo?  So over them.  I think production thinks this relationship is why we're watching and are therefore stretching it out as long as possible.  At this point, although I get frustrated with the other couples, it's the other couples that I am watching.

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3 hours ago, nlkm9 said:

 

I have this bad feeling we are going to be left hanging after next week.

 Well, the Danielle/"Mohamit" storyline is a gift that just keeps giving!

13 hours ago, TrininisaScorp said:

Unpopular opinion:  This is the first time I really liked Loren and Alexei.  Their interaction and her genuine excitement for seeing him, and his genuine pride and pleasure and seeing her represent for herself were lovely.  

Pao.  Wow.  Seriously.  Either pony up and stick your ass out or don't.  Camera drama and telling any fool who will listen is a true lack of professionalism.  "My husband" and "My husband".  Sweetie, no one gives a shit.  You are there for one thing and one thing only:  Put on the cheap lingerie and shhhh.  BTW, this video seems mad sketchy and low rent. 

I got really angry watching Pedro's dead eye stare while his family torn down his (idiot of a) wife.  Chantel.  Honey.  You are always going to be the bottom of the list.  Pedro didn't say 2 words to his family and didn't say 2 words when his bitch of a sister gave her fake ass apology.  Culture culture culture, bullshit.  His mom straight up said it is okay Chantel is at the bottom of the barrel so they can be  higher up, and said that was their culture?  Cmon, man.  Respecting your mother is culture.  Taking care of your mother is culture.  Treating your wife as less than?  That isn't culture.  That's Pedro's mama playing up on his macho bullshit to use to her advantage.  Pedro just takes it and clearly blames Chantel.  His turn of phase around "Chantel fights with my family and her family fights with me" was IMO very telling that he doesn't think him and his weird family are really at fault.   But, Pedro has the audacity to talk big about their "stupid" families.  Seriously.  

I couldn't be more excited to take a break from Jorge and Anfisa.  Like.  A breathe of golddigger-less, bitchass-less fresh air.

Mo and Danielle.  There is so much wrong here.  He's an idiot with his recording and wearing JEANS to court, and she and Jabba the Roseccea (TM someone infinitely more clever than I) sitting in the car talking about making sure she gets him deported were so stupid.  Can these two be over?  Please.  Toxic assholes.

Amen to absolutely everything! Very, very well said.

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14 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

Pao's shoot looked like a porn shoot. BTW the s and m bikini showed way more than the white lingerie 

The way she kept trotting out one skimpy outfit after another from her luggage, grinning like an idiot and giggling "this one is really hot!" like a fifth grader showing her test that got an A+ was so, so very painful. I was embarrassed for her.

14 hours ago, Godfrey said:

If she chickens out with the butt shot stuff, maybe she can be Heric's fluffer.

Thank you for this laugh, @Godfrey! I like the cut of your jib.

13 hours ago, Denim Dreams said:

Well that looks professional...throwing up and being all "my husband, my husband, my husband." I'm sure they don't want to hear it.  I would never book her again.  I agree that she was way more covered up in that outfit than the bad club wear.  It almost looked tasteful by comparison.

 

Yes, rushing off to the bathroom to vomit is so professional. And the director lurking outside! My god. It did look like a porn shoot. Pao's living in some fantasy land where this is what a real, professional video shoot looks like.

12 hours ago, SoshulMeedya said:

 

Mother and Sister Pedro are annoying, but Chantel doesn't help by getting mad over everything. If you want to make peace, you try to find common ground, and you swallow a little pride.

If she told them in a sincere and calm way that she loves Pedro and wants them all to be a family and get along, that would go a long way to diffuse things. Yes, I know they are obnoxious, but they are what she got for inlaws, so may as well try to make it work.

Agreed. Everyone in this whole clusterfuck is a mess. Everyone is too ready to fight and throw shade. No one (I include Chantel in this. Not Pedro, who appears to be a well meaning but clueless palooka) genuinely wants to get along, and no one is prepared to offer the first olive branch. Because they can't stand each other and their children's happiness is secondary to being "right". Good luck with that.

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I don't think Mohammed understands the concept of "fraud".  He wants to let the judge know that it was Danielle who 'frauded' him by keeping pertinent information from him. He has a great case for an annulment!  He is too stubborn to understand the implication he is making. The attorney was trying to explain his need for an attorney but he thinks he is smarter than the average attorney.  

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12 hours ago, vanillamountain said:

I would be shocked if these are still together a year from now. Aside from the language barrier (which is considerable,**) Pedro and Chantel just do not communicate well at all. A lot of the drama could be resolved if they sat down with a counselor and/or translator and had an honest and candid conversation about their income, how much they planned to contribute to household expenses, and what role their parents will play in their lives.

** = I know Chantel said she met Pedro while she was in the Dominican Republic to practice her Spanish, but I speak elementary Spanish better than she does, and I am NOWHERE near being fluent. And while Pedro's English has improved considerably since the first season, it's going to be a long time before he's anywhere near fluent. Maybe I'm just projecting, but I can't imagine what it would be like to be in that situation and to be unable to have a discussion with my significant other about life, family, or politics, in a meaningful way.
 

I think he understands completely what she is saying and he simply doesn't care. Because, it is his culture, you know.

And as far as she's concerned,she is not going to change him so she needs to either accept  what she took on or move on.  Like someone on this forum has already so aptly put it, don't marry your vacation lay.

10 hours ago, Former Nun said:

I haven't seen it yet, but it's more likely that Danielle leaves out the word "has."   Is it true that she's going to have a makeover that will be televised.  Anyone have the details?

You can make over her outside all you want, but there is no making over the person that she is and that is the real problem.

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I haven't seen this one yet.  My DVR isn't picking them up, and the On Demand is screwy.  I started last weeks show a few days ago, and I had a migraine, and dozed off about halfway through.  When I went back to finish the next morning, it was gone, and hasn't been back.

But the more I'm hearing about Pao vomiting, I'm wondering if she's one that talks a big game but doesn't follow-through.  Extremely quickly:  I knew a girl a number of years back through an online group I belonged to.  She was always talking about how she was told she could be a model (um...no - she made Pao look like Miss Universe) and she wanted to do Playboy, and do porn to make good money.  She was selling photos of herself topless to anyone who would give her money.  Then she found someone to get her in to porn.  She wasn't attractive or built enough, so we were all wondering what sleazy person was interested in her and she was told to be careful.  She came to a private area of the group to tell us that she couldn't do it.  She threw up repeatedly, and she was offered booze and drugs to relax her, and she apparently had zero clue just how that industry works.   She disappeared not long after that, and I've always wondered what happened to her.  So it's entirely possible that Pao got there, saw it was nothing like the thought it was, and had some anxiety over everything, but apparently she pushed through it.

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Danielle and Mohamed face off; Chantel and Pedro prepare to walk down the aisle; Russ and Pao are at a crossroads; Anfisa and Jorge meet to discuss the future of their relationship.

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4 minutes ago, funky-rat said:

I haven't seen this one yet.  My DVR isn't picking them up, and the On Demand is screwy.  I started last weeks show a few days ago, and I had a migraine, and dozed off about halfway through.  When I went back to finish the next morning, it was gone, and hasn't been back.

But the more I'm hearing about Pao vomiting, I'm wondering if she's one that talks a big game but doesn't follow-through.  Extremely quickly:  I knew a girl a number of years back through an online group I belonged to.  She was always talking about how she was told she could be a model (um...no - she made Pao look like Miss Universe) and she wanted to do Playboy, and do porn to make good money.  She was selling photos of herself topless to anyone who would give her money.  Then she found someone to get her in to porn.  She wasn't attractive or built enough, so we were all wondering what sleazy person was interested in her and she was told to be careful.  She came to a private area of the group to tell us that she couldn't do it.  She threw up repeatedly, and she was offered booze and drugs to relax her, and she apparently had zero clue just how that industry works.   She disappeared not long after that, and I've always wondered what happened to her.  So it's entirely possible that Pao got there, saw it was nothing like the thought it was, and had some anxiety over everything, but apparently she pushed through it.

That's what I was thinking. She was saying like... of course I'm comfortable! I'm comfortable in this! But it's just my husband... with this fear in her eyes. Like what's she so scared of? Russ probably isn't going to do anything... he hasn't done anything so far. He'll just be upset and she'll huff off like it's her life. I think the reason she was puking were her own nerves... knowing that this probably isn't the best "career". But she did it anyway. What else is she gonna do?

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50 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

 Russ needs to just cut the ties here as he really should realize that she does not care one bit about him, his values, his career, and his feelings.  

*sarcasm on* But, she calls him Mi Amore all the time!!!!!!   I am shocked that you should think this.  *sarcasm off*

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I would have had a ton of respect for Pao if she had gotten to that sleazy video shoot, looked around and said, "No, I've changed my mind. My marriage means more to me than my career" and walked out with her dignity intact. But that was never going to happen! 

My theory is that obscure rapper King Heric (or Eric with an H) heard about the show, decided that booking Pao for his video ensured his 15 minutes of fame, and contacted TLC about his interest in the storyline. 

I had to laugh about how the Danielle/Mohammed laying out their clothes, grooming in the mirror and getting ready for the big day montage was exactly like a WEDDING preparation video! 

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1 hour ago, Kid said:

*sarcasm on* But, she calls him Mi Amore all the time!!!!!!   I am shocked that you should think this.  *sarcasm off*

Russ will never leave her, he thinks with his little head. When he gets mad at her, all she has to do is start with the mi amor and sweet talk and he's drooling. If you believe what you see on their IG accounts, you'd think they are solid and the real deal. And she won't leave him until she's gotten all she can out of him & has another sponser in place, like a smart hooker. 

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2 hours ago, hisbunkie said:

I don't think Mohammed understands the concept of "fraud".  He wants to let the judge know that it was Danielle who 'frauded' him by keeping pertinent information from him. He has a great case for an annulment!  

That's just it.  Mo doesn't want an annulment; he wants a divorce.  A divorce would dissolve the marriage and Mo would have a chance of staying; an annulment would make the marriage null and void. No marriage, no green card.  

 

14 minutes ago, balisticnikki said:

So we hear Danielle telling Mo to have a nice life IN TUNISIA or whatever, during the coming attraction. Does that mean, he is getting deported for sure?

eta - Or is this a spoiler? :/

I think if Mo was back in Tunisia, we would have heard by now.  

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3 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

The way she kept trotting out one skimpy outfit after another from her luggage, grinning like an idiot and giggling "this one is really hot!" like a fifth grader showing her test that got an A+ was so, so very painful. I was embarrassed for her.

18 hours ago, Godfrey said:

And she didn't fool anyone...no matter how much she protested with "...but my husband" somewhere in the sentence, the more it was obvious that she was going to do and wear whatever she damn well pleased.  I've said before that Russ is not my favorite, but damn.  You wanted a wife, you wound up with a low-rent sketchy video skank.  Maybe next time, look in your own back yard.

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13 hours ago, Former Nun said:

I haven't seen it yet, but it's more likely that Danielle leaves out the word "has."   Is it true that she's going to have a makeover that will be televised.  Anyone have the details?

From what I have read is they are doing to her what they did to June of Honey Boo Boo.  You can gussy up folks but they are still the same.  I would rather they spend that money to send her to school and a therapist.  The rest could come or not.  But give her a break other than perhaps looking a bit more put together.  Her looks are the least of her worries.

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52 minutes ago, spankydoll said:

I am guessing that Pao's puking is to set up a pregnancy storyline.

Oh God!!!   Party girl parent.  Just what a child needs.

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7 hours ago, lucy711 said:

I really don't want to stick up for Chantel (who seems to own nothing except clubbing dresses), but it's not okay for Mother Pedro to expect her to respect Dominican culture while she refuses to respect American culture.

I think the whole "culture" argument is bogus.  Leeching off people isn't a cultural thing, it's a bad behavior thing.  I don't think people in the Dominican Republic collectively look to have their children marry Americans so they can send money and goods back to them.

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1 hour ago, Adeejay said:
1 hour ago, Adeejay said:

That's just it.  Mo doesn't want an annulment; he wants a divorce.  A divorce would dissolve the marriage and Mo would have a chance of staying; an annulment would make the marriage null and void. No marriage, no green card.  

 

Right, and apparently somewhere he found out that he needed to consummate the marriage to make it harder to annul so he finally had sex with Danielle ONCE after avoiding it for three months. I agree with some of the theories that he's gay and terrified of going back to Tunisia

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When Pedro told Chantal behind closed doors that her family is stupid and that his family is stupid I completely agree. These two will be fine on their own dealing with life, their marriage, etc., without their families butting in. Maybe its lust and not love, but they seem to be in to each other and the parents and siblings are raising issues that are bringing up the problems. They need to stop listening to their families' terrible advice and comments and just be together without their interference. Chantal's family is rude to Pedro and Pedro's family is rude to Chantal. As a Latin son Pedro is going to always help his Mom. He's working two jobs. He will send them money. It's a given. Chantal is in school. When she finishes in two years and has a job, and Pedro saves money for two years, they will be able to get a bigger apartment or buy something. Pedro explained this reasonable plan to Father Chantal and River and they didn't listen. They kept bringing up the three bedroom apt. that Pedro's Mom now lives in. That three bedroom probably costs the same or less than their studio in Atlanta. Things are way cheaper in the Dominican Republic. I know they have to have conflict in order to have a story line for the show but once they set appropriate boundaries with the parents and work out their problems on their own they will be just fine.

Last night I kept thinking is Tunisia really that bad, Mo? It can't be as bad as dealing with Danielle. It can't be. If you "frauded" her just pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and head home to Tunis with any remaining self respect you have and bid farewell to Dani forever. Dani would take him back so fast if he showed the slightest bit of interest. Dani can't quit him. Mo, get out of Sandusky!


 

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