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There were a couple of shots tonight where Ramona's new face reminded me of Kathie Lee Gifford.   Same dr?

Also looked like Bethenney had some work done (on WWHL tonight).   Anyone else notice?

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I was surprised that Bethenny and Carol were surprised at "all cash" for B's apartment.  I watch both MDL and all cash is pretty common on both.  I thought that was just how people with $$$$ rolled.  

I was also very surprised Frederick got the price of the apartment so wrong!!  It makes me wonder about him as a realtor/broker!!  I will be using Ryan!!   

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I get it's Bethenny's self-appointed job to talk shit in the talking heads but did anybody else feel weird about her disparaging clothes that were eventually going to be worn by women trying to interview for jobs? I mean, I'm sure a lot of extends from the probably true notion that Sonja wasn't going to actually part with anything and this was all a set-up but it just seemed like an odd tone to take.

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4 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

I get it's Bethenny's self-appointed job to talk shit in the talking heads but did anybody else feel weird about her disparaging clothes that were eventually going to be worn by women trying to interview for jobs? I mean, I'm sure a lot of extends from the probably true notion that Sonja wasn't going to actually part with anything and this was all a set-up but it just seemed like an odd tone to take.

It was "right up there" with her BS comment a couple years ago about "being the richest 'homeless' person!" She defends that stupid arse comment to this day! I was such a fan of hers, but she eventually wore me down! I might have to look at Jill Zarin in another light and be more sympathetic; .....NYAH! ;-)

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1 hour ago, annewithaneee said:

Cookie seemed fine, and the new pups are super adorable, but that decision struck me as odd. If my dog were sixteen, I would personally avoid any significant extra stress like moving (when it could be avoided of course) and adding new animals to the family, especially puppies. That assimilation process can be long and difficult, and they'll have energy that Cookie just doesn't have anymore. I get that little kids love having puppies, but if I were in Bethenny's shoes I wouldn't put Cookie through that in her waning, frailest years.

Maybe with 2 pups, they will leave Cookie alone. We adopted a pup, a GS, after we lost our 12 1/2 year old Newf even though we have a 15 year old blind/deaf Malt. I made sure that the pup left him alone and that he kept his "king" title and a year later, he is still going strong and our now adult GS helps guide him in the house. As long as you are mindful and protect your older dog, introducing a pup(s) can work out for all.

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Ok, I took one for the team and paused my DVR on a shot of Ramona's face while she's talking to the decorator.  My best guess on what happened is she got a face lift, and one side of her face is pulled a little tighter than the other.  Thus, her right eye is pulled up in a cat's eye, but her left eye is not.  Also, her right nostril seems pulled toward the right and slightly elongated. Her face is lopsided.

Oh, and lots of cheek filler, and filler around her mouth that makes her lips look weird and pouty.

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2 hours ago, chick binewski said:

Screw Carole and everything she stands for if she refuses to recognize the real enemy of the USA, Jason Hoppy.

Sonja's sex show rehearsal made me feel good about my life choices. And I don't know how many procedures Ramona had done because she's gone full blown Picasso where you can't stay focused on one point for any amount of time. 

Divorce is ugly! The judge sided with Jason for a reason at times so obviously Bethenny was a bit unhinged, making Jason look more the victim! Wearing Bryn's PJ's and posting it on social media was haunting! I was thinking, that poor little girl; both parents are no day at the beach, but Bethenny looked like she needed to be in a straightjacket! It was how thin she had gotten with that morose look of death! Thank GAWD Jason was around from what little I paid attention to this soap opera that went on for YEARS! The separation lasted longer than the relationship! She dragged it out I'm betting thinking she didn't want to cough up anything! Why is it ok for women to leach off rich guys, but the reverse is verboten? Jason was married to her before she acquired her fortune and deserved like any spouse being dumped! ;-(

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4 minutes ago, Jamie Satyr said:

It was "right up there" with her BS comment a couple years ago about "being the richest 'homeless' person!" She defends that stupid arse comment to this day! I was such a fan of hers, but she eventually wore me down! I might have to look at Jill Zarin in another light and be more sympathetic; .....NYAH! ;-)

As with my previous post about why Bethenney bothers me if she had just said to Jill " Thank You for all of your support, I really appreciate it and everything I have achieved is beyond what I ever thought it could be" and had Jill not been such a housewife used  lacky "holla back " girl all would have been well and we would have seen women supporting other women much to Bravo and Andy's distain ( no drama = no dollars).

Maybe this is one of the many reasons Jill  ( and no I didn't really care for her) is gone because she didn't want to play the nasty bitch role anymore and tried to get the truth out about what was happening with production manipulation wise ?

I really think production stuck in  their stinky shit stick as they have  on all of these " reality scripted" shows and tainted the actual good and heartfelt stories that could have taken place.

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11 minutes ago, izabella said:

Ok, I took one for the team and paused my DVR on a shot of Ramona's face while she's talking to the decorator.  My best guess on what happened is she got a face lift, and one side of her face is pulled a little tighter than the other.  Thus, her right eye is pulled up in a cat's eye, but her left eye is not.  Also, her right nostril seems pulled toward the right and slight elongated. Her face is lopsided.

Neck lift as well. She was otherwise in great shape but developing chicken neck the last few years. 

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17 minutes ago, izabella said:

Whatever the story is with Lu and Tom, she seems a lot happier than Ramona does.

Give Ramona time to start a little war with someone and trash talk them behind their back as something terrible happens in their life.  Then she'll be happy as a clam.  A clam with a wax face.

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12 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Give Ramona time to start a little war with someone and trash talk them behind their back as something terrible happens in their life.  Then she'll be happy as a clam.  A clam with a wax face.

I got Salvador Dali vibes. 

eta: I also noticed that Carole pronounced the T in "kittens." I also drop T's, but at least it sounds like a D, not Carole's previous pronunciation. I bet she got tons of shit about it last season. Credit due though, because she kept at least one of the ki'ens, if not both (I pay very little attention to any of them but do catch a cute pic every once in a while). My overgrown ki'en is about to stomp on this laptop. She's giving me a deathstare as I type. 

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I may never get over seeing that jar in Tom's apartment that was labeled "Tom's Cookies

Ahh but it was so much worse than that.  It read "Tommy's Cookies."  

I hate Bethenny's Dora the Explorer haircut.  

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Cookie was on the other side of the gate. Probably so the puppies don't irritate him. 

When Sonja showed Bethenny the light purple top she 'always wore' when she was dating Prince Albert, I noticed it still had the tag attached. 

Ramona's eyes looked bloodshot in one of the talking heads. And she thinks her contractor is going to save her money by gutting the kitchen instead of refacing the kitchen cabinets? Alrighty then. But the living and dining room do look much better.  

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Ramona's face is mesmerizing, but probably not in the way she intended.  Before tonight I never would have believed that eyes could be too much plastic surgery cat eyed squinty and crazy eyes buggy at the same time.  

Did the top that Sonja wore all the time with Prince Albert still have the tag on it?  That's what it looked like to me, but I didn't DVR and can't double check.  I thought it was hilarious, so I hope I wasn't just seeing things.

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6 hours ago, WireWrap said:

I did not need to see her put her bedroom "toys" in the dishwasher along side dishes, glasses and her silverware! YUCK! Ewwwwwwwwe!

Wait, you didn't enjoy seeing Sonja scrub the base of the little purple one with a toothbrush, as she threw it in with her dishes ? :) 

Sonja does some disgusting things. Remember one season she was washing lingerie in a toilet, or am I remembering that wrong? 

Why the hell does Ramona care about Lu and Tom so much? 

I get Carole, I'm still not over the election... I can't be mad at her for taking it so seriously.

Cant stand Bethenny, but she was honest about only attending the wedding if she was being paid, or was sponsoring the bar. I still think she is a self absorbed monster of a woman. 

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Both Dorinda & Luann looked amazing in the natural light of the park (I covet Luann's legs for days, especially in that sport skirt).  Contrast that with the badly done plastic faces of Ramona, Carole and Bethanny.  Wowzers.

Loved the puppy/kitten show and the real estate porn.  Otherwise, a snoozy opening episode.

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I was surprised to see how outdated Ramona's kitchen was.  That was some 60's or 70's tiles in there!  Her apartment doesn't seem to be as big as I initially thought it was.  And who acts like that with a contractor?  Bouncing around in flimsy lingerie, then asking if he knows anybody she can date - wow!  Tacky.  

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Got a giggle when Ramona's assistant answered the door and part of her shirt was tucked in and part was out.  Hmmmm.... wonder what was going on?

Did I see right?  :D

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Wow, some of these women are just NOT looking good. I thought both Caroel and Ramona had more work done. I'm not an expert in these things, so I don't know WHAT exactly. But yikes. Ramona looked crazy in her THs. And Carole is morphing into that cat lady (which is fitting, now that she's got several cats running around the place. And tearing up the furniture??? Mr. Ghoulina and I were having a breakdown last night about the state of our couches/lack of money to get new ones....but hers looked even worse than ours!)

And Bethenny's hair. That Joan Jett look just isn't working for her. I don't mind her with short hair, but she needs the bangs off of her face, and softer wisps or waves to balance out the hard angles of her face. 

Lu, who I'm not a fan of, looked the best. She was KILLING it in that tennis skirt. 

Moving on from the superficial stuff....

 

Ramona and her contractor = skeevy. That guy looked like he wanted to run away. She couldn't stop reminding him that he shared a name with her ex, and then she's asking him to find her dates. Run away OtherMario, run away!

Sonja and her sex play...what in the what what? I should never be shocked with Sonja. She did make me laugh when she said her Uber driver dresses better than her. But every year a new name is dropped. Now she dated Prince Albert? 

So Carole is one of those people who can't stop talking politics/election? Yay! I'm so excited for the rest of this season now. /sarcasm

I think Lu and Tom are incredibly awkward together and there's no doubt they're both "flanderers", but people just need to let it go. I think they both know what the other is about and want to get married anyhow. So let it be. I am having a hard time keeping up with who is invited to what event. Sonja was at the bridal shower, but NOT invited to the bachelorette party? I guess it gets confusing when two of your friends have been with your man. 

I'm glad Bethenny's apartment sold so fast so we can (hopefully) stop hearing about it. I like B (I think I'm one of the few left who does), but I have found her melodrama about that place to be tiresome. Moving on. 

Overall a pretty tame opener. 

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I think I'm going to play a drinking game this season and every time Carole reminds us that she's a journalist I'm going to take a drink. Ugh, but I see she's trying to rehabilitate her image this season by hanging with fan favorite Dorinda. Adam is smart to latch onto her, he got a spot on Chopped where the win was probably fixed, and now he's living rent free and picking up a Bravo check for another season. Well played Adam. I see she took him to her beautician and got his hair done, maybe when she was getting her faced filled with god knows what, she looks puffy.

Damn, Luann has nice legs! Her knees looked airbrushed they were so smooth, that is a hard spot to make look good on anyone at any age. Sonja looks great too. I cringed when Ramona was talking to the contractor, yikes, talk about desperate housewife. And she had her face pulled too tight and her eyes look weird, too bad because she looked good before.

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I almost wept for Carole's once gorgeous sofa looking like such a ratty mess on national TV---what the hell happened to it to cause it to rip/tear so much in just a year? Fostering kittens caused *that* much damage?!

That's when it's time to consider keeping kittens elsewhere or just covering that thing up with various throws or plastic. She'll end up paying a fortune for new Scalamandre fabric, that's for sure...must be nice to have that much extra dough to spend on overpriced fabric, excessive facial fillers and boy-toys. Meanwhile Adam continues to display a complete lack of personality or charm with his every scene.

Meanwhile, go on with your bad self, Luanne! Hell, I'd run off and marry a guy if his Manhattan pad looked that good too. He dicks around and she likes a fun side-piece now and then, so if it works for them, what does it matter? She seems quite happy and is settling firmly back into her haughty Countess-like ways, so there you go.

Thank God Ramona is finally revamping her 90's style apartment; it looks really fresh and modern so far! Wish I could say the same for her overly-revamped facial work. But hey, the ratty extensions are gone, at least.

More real estate porn courtesy of Bethenny and Frederick; I actually like those two together. She's popping up on the next season of his show too, so it's to her great advantage that she befriended one of the MDRE guys.

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9 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

There were a couple of shots tonight where Ramona's new face reminded me of Kathie Lee Gifford.   Same dr?

That's IT! Thank you! I was trying so hard to think of who she reminded me of in her THs, and that is it. Perfection. (Your comparison, not that godawful face.)

 

7 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

So Jason "trashed" the apartment, Bethenny?  A few scuff marks means he "trashed" it?

Lol, I was thinking exactly the same thing. Scuff marks? You're bothered by scuff marks? Ever heard of a Magic Eraser, Bethenny? Damn, if she showed up at my 100+ year old house she'd probably faint from seeing all the issues we have. 

 

7 hours ago, Teddybear said:

Ahh but it was so much worse than that.  It read "Tommy's Cookies."  

It's kind of sad, but my most important question of the night was, who game him that cookie jar? His mommy? His ex? 

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Sonja's show sounds like THE most disgusting and gross --pathetic "being a slob is the only angle I have left" display. I used to feel a bit sorry for her  thinking perhaps her financial downfall caused delusions but she is a pig--point blank. And Andy and Bravo--hang that $$ carrot lower and lower and they continue to get on their knees with their tongues out convincing themselves it's fine and not totally degrading to one's humanity.  Even barnyard animals have a sense of dignity.   (My apologies to pigs -- I meant it in the human, slop-wallowing hog sense.)

Ramona apparently got nothing this season except phony "dates' and Tom and Lu.  .    I'm surprised Lu didn't remind and thank Ramona --in the kindest sense of course-- about her own years of denial with her philandering husband Mario and how they were there for her own humiliation--especially since Ramona was so self-righteous and superior about her great marriage,. What @Sun-Bun said above re Luann's marriage are my thoughts exactly.  She knows who he is.   It's getting late.  Let's travel and drink champagne.    

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I'm glad Bethenny's apartment sold so fast so we can (hopefully) stop hearing about it. I like B (I think I'm one of the few left who does)

Small voice: I like her too...

Even smaller voice: I still like Carole...[*ducks*]

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I don't have a problem with Carole talking about politics on one hand, but on the other, I watch these shows for a short break from my reality.  I really don't want to hear about the buffoon when I'm just trying to relax with my trashy reality tv.

As much as Ramona's face is disturbing, her laugh is like nails on a chalk board to me.  It's awful.  It's always been bad, but I cringed every time she laughed last night. 

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I will actually enjoy seeing Carole's head explode as Trump wins. She really is unlikeable to me.

I thought Bethenny's face and hair looked rough when she was at Sonja's house. 

Love Fredrik. 

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 The shirt that Sonja held up and made the comment that she dated Prince Albert in that shirt but she wore it as a skirt... the tags were still hanging from the shirt!  Is this chick for real? As if we can't see the tag hanging from the armpit of the shirt she's so delusional! 

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Poor Carole with the younger boyfriend feeling that she needs to resort to plastic surgery to remain youthful enough to keep him. It's actually aging her. Carole now looks like an older woman desperately trying to look younger.

 

edit: or at least extensive fillers etc if not an actual surgery!

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1 minute ago, Reppiks2897 said:

 The shirt that Sonja held up and made the comment that she dated Prince Albert in that shirt but she wore it as a skirt... the tags were still hanging from the shirt!  Is this chick for real? As if we can't see the tag hanging from the armpit of the shirt she's so delusional! 

I apologize for this but I seriously thought Prince Albert was (only) in a can.

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6 minutes ago, Reppiks2897 said:

 The shirt that Sonja held up and made the comment that she dated Prince Albert in that shirt but she wore it as a skirt... the tags were still hanging from the shirt!  Is this chick for real? As if we can't see the tag hanging from the armpit of the shirt she's so delusional! 

If Sonja ever dated Prince Albert of Monaco (that's who she is referring to), I'm Princess Diana.... for reals.

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Oh my, what a train wreck this show has become.  It used to be my favorite, but now I’m wondering if I can hang in there for even one more episode. 

Could Ramona be more desperate?  Who answers their door in a flimsy nightgown knowing a contractor is coming?  I guess the mask was to fool us idiots into thinking this was spontaneous.  I felt so sorry for that poor man and I was embarrassed for her.  Also, when she was late to lunch with Dorinda did anyone else think that she staged that, too?  I don’t believe for one minute that she had a date.

Bethenny was her horrible self.  I just cannot stand her.  She had to get her digs in at Jason.  Wow he really did destroy that apartment --- I mean scuff marks.  They should have probably considered leveling the building.  You can’t come back from that kind of damage.

Lu looked great and I wish the other ladies would stay out of her business.  I did love Tom’s face in the preview where B is saying she’s sorry/not sorry for causing him problems.  Carole is just annoying.  She really needs to give up constantly calling herself a girl.  When you’re over 50 (I am, too) it just looks desperate.  Sonja is her usual delusional self.

I really hope Tinsley brings it and doesn’t scrape and bow to Queen B.  I don’t think B will like her since T is younger and prettier.  I guess we shall see.

Oh, Sonja dated Prince Albert.  I guess we now know who put Prince Albert in the can.  Hopefully someone will let him out!!!

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I don't think I can go through another season of Ramona telling us how she is having the time of her life. Methinks the lady doth protest too much. 

And to quote B, I want them all to "get off Tom's jock". Yes he seems like a sleazy POS, but Luann is over 50, and she picked him. She obviously knows exactly what she is getting into. If they want and open relationship, that's their business. Moaner calling Tom's exes was so out of line, as is the rest of them gossiping about whether he is faithful. Clearly Luann doesn't give a crap. That apartment, sans the "Tommy's cookies" looked fab.

Sonja not surprisingly is still delusional. Prince Albert? LOL . And the clothing she was giving to B was ridiculous. Her show sounds gross. 

Dorinda likes playing both sides doesn't she? She sits with Ramona and nods her head and says yes yes when Ramona gossips about Tom and Lu, and then tells Lu how badly the others are talking about her. 

Most outrageous things I heard was B saying that she will only attend Lu's wedding if she can pimp her skinny girl crap out. I mean seriously, who does that?

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5 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

If Sonja ever dated Prince Albert of Monaco (that's who she is referring to), I'm Princess Diana.... for reals.

Although, if I swap out Sonja's 'dated' for 'late night booty call'... hmmm, maybe my Princess crown is slipping!

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Fredrik!  Love him.

LuAnn's penthouse with Tom is to die for.  The ladies are still stuck on Tom and cheating.  We all know that LuAnn married him so it's kind of a nonissue.

Hasn't Sonja been saying she was going to sell her house for the last decade or something? 

Ramona will hit up anything male that moves.  Sheesh.  I do like how she's redecorated though. 

Please tell me we're not going to be subjected to an entire season of Carole spewing about the election and how she's more qualified than the average voter (bitch, please.)  Although that does make me laugh - - she's so qualified and yet her horse lost the race.  

Dorinda . .  I've got nothing right now. 

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10 hours ago, annewithaneee said:

That was a joke, I think. I mean, she probably did say that to Luann, but purposefully being a shithead. That's at least how I took it, and thought it was kinda funny. 

Yeah, I'm pretty positive it was a joke as I think Bethenny is smart enough to realize Lu wouldn't actually want to invite her.

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Bethenny seemed happy, and I thought she was very pleasant this episode.  Her realtor though -- he says 6.75, she insists 6.95, he says no, she pushes...sold in one day for 6.95. Had she taken his advice, she would have also lost $200K in one day.  And Bethenny didn't even take a shot about it!

Kind of a dull episode. Even the "This season on..." didn't look that promising. 

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3 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

Fredrik!  Love him.

LuAnn's penthouse with Tom is to die for.  The ladies are still stuck on Tom and cheating.  We all know that LuAnn married him so it's kind of a nonissue.

Hasn't Sonja been saying she was going to sell her house for the last decade or something? 

Ramona will hit up anything male that moves.  Sheesh.  I do like how she's redecorated though. 

Please tell me we're not going to be subjected to an entire season of Carole spewing about the election and how she's more qualified than the average voter (bitch, please.)  Although that does make me laugh - - she's so qualified and yet her horse lost the race.  

Dorinda . .  I've got nothing right now. 

Yes... knowing that Luanne and Tom are already married sure effects how I view these episodes and the way these women are snooping and questioning.... Snore.

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4 minutes ago, Jel said:

Bethenny seemed happy, and I thought she was very pleasant this episode.  Her realtor though -- he says 6.75, she insists 6.95, he says no, she pushes...sold in one day for 6.95. Had she taken his advice, she would have also lost $200K in one day.  And Bethenny didn't even take a shot about it!

Kind of a dull episode. Even the "This season on..." didn't look that promising. 

Well, wouldn't you be happy if you made almost 7 million in one day?  I'd be pretty happy too.  I'm surprised that Fredrik was so off the mark on pricing her apartment.  On MDLNY, he is usually more on the money, so to speak, when setting pricing.  I'm thinking this was a set-up for Fredrik and Bethenny, so B could come across as a know-it-all (thanks, Heather!!!), even in real estate.  Fredrik dealt with it, because he knew he would be able to get the price and a big fat commission, too!  

I do get what you're saying about Bethenny overall, though.  She doesn't seem as manic {yet} or harried.  Maybe having her divorce finalized has given her some inner peace?  I do think she's still a bitch, and still has too many nasty words for too many things, but we're seeing her smile a little bit more.

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39 minutes ago, Sun-Bun said:

Meanwhile, go on with your bad self, Luanne! Hell, I'd run off and marry a guy if his Manhattan pad looked that good too. He dicks around and she likes a fun side-piece now and then, so if it works for them, what does it matter? She seems quite happy and is settling firmly back into her haughty Countess-like ways, so there you go.

Yea, I'm convinced they definitely have an "arrangement". Lu seems to be deliriously happy and has never looked better. They have fun together and when they are not together they do their own thing. I'm sure Lu had a nice long talk with Tom about learning to be very discreet, though. She appears to be more embarrassed about Tom being seen around town doing his thing, than if he was doing it behind closed doors. She just needs to cut the bullshit about not having an open relationship, because it looks to me that this is exactly what she has.  

Of course Bethenny, the smartest business women in all of the universe, told her experienced realtor Fredrik  that she wanted more money for her property and of course they got the full asking price and all cash offer to boot! And of course all of that happened within a few short days. And of course Bethenny was gloating because once again she was right. Bethenny lives for being right. 

In my opinion Carole's face looked just as stretched and creepy as Ramona's. Carole looks worse because she was never pretty to begin with. Her stretched lower face emphasizes her fake teeth.  You could cut diamonds on those cheeks. She either had cheek implants or mega doses of filler. They also both have that hollow eye look which I can't stand, as if the surgeon took too much skin off the upper and lower lids. Yuk. 

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It's good to see Ramona is still the twitchy awkward person we have all grown to know...that toast to Luann was beyond stupid, "I hope you don't fall on your face with this marriage" was inappropriate to say the least.  Why on earth did Luann not get up and leave is beyond me.

Ramona and her contractor...yikes! Just that, yikes. Side story, I did a lot of renovations in my house last year and the reason I did so much was the fact that my contractor is so flipping hot, like crazy hot but married, kids, 10 years younger and oh yeah...I am happily married.  I am broke but the kitchen, master bath and flooring look amazing.  LOL.

Did I see huge rips in Carole's couch?  By the look of the swatches on the back of the couch she must be looking to re upholster but I would stay as close to the original tiger stripe as possible, something about a statement couch with history needs to stay the same. IMHO.

Bethenny selling her apartment in one day for the full asking price seemed a little to convenient.

Sonja had tags on all of her clothes she was donating, that purple blouse she wore when she dated Prince Andrew (yeah, right) had a tag on it...what is really going on with all that?  She could have been donating all the clothing from her fashion line that never saw the inside of a store.

Is Jill coming back this season?  I thought I saw her on a coming attraction.

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