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Scarlett45

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1 hour ago, bigskygirl said:

I would not be surprise if they did do it. The family seems to think the married couples are experts on relationships and sex. I also remember them saying they went to Anna and Michelle for tips also.

At least Anna and Michelle are both women! I do firmly believe that adult family members of the opposite sex can be close and be genuine friends, but there are some things a young lady is much more comfortable discussing with her sister or mom compared to her Dad/Brother (even in the most healthy family dynamics- and vice versa). Given the grossness that is Smuggar and the fact that he MOLESTED HIS LITTLE SISTERS I just cannot believe they would want to do that. 

But look at me being logical- you know I’m sure you’re very right and I’m trying to apply normal human rules on the Duggars but the family has so many issues that doesn’t apply. 

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kalamac
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It's sad when a bunch of internet people who have never met these kids care more about their education and livelihoods than their own parents. Seriously, fuck JB and Michelle.

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Churchhoney

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2 hours ago, louannems said:

Yes, Michelle and JimBob always kissed in front of their kids.  Constantly. 

I personally absolutely hate social media posts of couples kissing.  Just why do other people need to see your intimate moments?

I mean,  I know these couples are not sharing deep, passionate kissing, just little pecks, but still, what is the point of sharing it?  I know you are married and now you get to kiss.  So what?  Are you guys the only ones in the world doing the kissing and us wordly heathens haven't discovered kissing yet? 

It's rediculous and cringe worthy every time they do it.  Jill and Derick are the worse.

I kind of think that in the case of the Duggarlings and Duggar adjacents (and maybe JB and M as well?), arrested development is a big part of why they do this stuff. In so many ways these people haven't had the chance to develop socially and interpersonally and, for heaven's sake, sexually (and intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, etc., too, I suppose) at anything like what we'd consider a normal rate.

They really all are stuck at middle-school or early-high-school age for quite a long time, seems to me. And that's the age at which this kind of ostentatious stuff is pretty typical. They just aren't grown up at the age that most people would be grown up. 

I know this feeling from the inside. I was like a 13-year-old in many ways, far into my 20s, because of the same kinds of stunting -- such as isolation from peers, prohibition against making your own choices, lack of normal experiences like socialization and dating with a wide range of people your own age, etc. -- that Duggarlings experience. (and the Duggarlings and even many of the adjacents) have more barriers than I did. They haven't even read books that expose them to normal experiences...)

-- And you do just act -- and feel -- like somebody way way younger than your age.

I had the advantage of living out among normal people. So I fairly quickly noticed how different I was, recognized that both a lot of my impulses, actions and feelings were age-inappropriate. Figured out why. And ultimately was able to suppress some of the outward signs, work through this stuff therapeutically and so on, and become more normal (though never fully normal, even at that). 

The Duggars, by contrast, are living in their bubble. For them, acting younger than their calendar ages in some dumb ways seems perfectly fine, I expect. 

I don't think arrested development is the whole story. THe other things like ownership and pissing contests and such that folks have mentioned above play roles, too, I think. But I do think that arrested development is also a strong contributor. That's my theory, anyway. 

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Scarlett45

Scarlett45

8 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

I don't think arrested development is the whole story. THe other things like ownership and pissing contests and such that folks have mentioned above play roles, too, I think. But I do think that arrested development is also a strong contributor. That's my theory, anyway. 

This makes a lot of sense thanks for sharing your perspective. 

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Jynnan tonnix

Jynnan tonnix

I think a lot of it is also that they need to show that all the Godly courting, waiting for God (aka JB) to lead you to the perfect spouse he planned for you since the beginning of time, and staying absolutely unsullied until your wedding day is a guarantee that your marriage will be one of fairytale love and neverending desire for ever and ever, amen. And the kissing pictures are, of course, absolute proof that the magic never dies *cough*.

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EmeraldGirl

EmeraldGirl

5 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

When did Easter Sunday become Resurrection Day? I must have missed the memo.

I wondered that all day yesterday when I saw all the Duggar’s call it that!

Kendra is a doll. I don’t agree with her life choices, but she’s clean, happy, and as we saw in Greece - social and normal acting. Now just keep Joe’s tongue off the plate. 

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Minivanessa

Minivanessa

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38 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

When did Easter Sunday become Resurrection Day? I must have missed the memo.

My friend Google led me to a discussion which included this reason why some protestants call it Resurrection Day/Sunday: "Because “Easter” is derived from the name of the fertility goddess Astarte."

Ah. Pagan heathen stuff! OTOH you'd think those Quiverfull breeders for Jesus could spare a little respect for a fertility goddess, seeing as how they worship fertility so devoutly themselves. 

30 minutes ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Kendra is a doll. I don’t agree with her life choices, but she’s clean, happy, and as we saw in Greece - social and normal acting. Now just keep Joe’s tongue off the plate. 

I agree. That pink dress Kendra's wearing looks appropriate, properly sized, and attractive. Unlike Lauren's big yellow circus tent, a truly cringeworthy choice that actually stands out as kind of special, among all the Duggars' cringeworthy fashion tragedies over the years.

And although Jill's worn many worse looks than that Citrus and Gatorade dress she wore to church, it's nowhere near as nice looking as Kendra's dress. 

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Jynnan tonnix

Jynnan tonnix

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5 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

I've heard that for at least 30 years - its due to 'Easter' being associated with pagan gods. Why they don't come up with something new for Chirstmas, I'll never know.

Yup...What they really need to do, if they are that worried about Pagan gods, is rename the days of the week!

Oh, and isn't Kendra's dress the one she wore as a bridesmaid?

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sugarplum

sugarplum

I was born and raised in a Baptist church and I have never heard the “pagan” reasoning for not calling it Easter! That’s definitely new to me! People I know do sometimes refer to Easter as Ressurection Day, because it is the day (observed, anyway) that Jesus resurrected from the dead. But everyone I know still refers to, and celebrates “Easter” as well. In fact, after church yesterday, my church had an egg hunt, AND the Easter Bunny there for the kids. And the Easter Bunny came to my house and left a bunch of eggs and huge Easter baskets for my kids. I know there are some people who don’t do Santa and Easter Bunny for their own personal reasons (that I obviously don’t agree with), but I have never understood why you can’t have the true meaning of these holidays while still keeping some holidY magic for the kids. They can co-exist. I grew up with Bible preaching all the time, went to a Christian school...I KNEW the real meaning of the holidays. And yet, Santa still came every year. I was never confused by this. I’m raising my kids the same way. We absolutely talk about the “why” of the holidays, but we have fun with them as well. 

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MamaMax

MamaMax

5 hours ago, louannems said:

Yes, Michelle and JimBob always kissed in front of their kids.  Constantly. 

I personally absolutely hate social media posts of couples kissing.  Just why do other people need to see your intimate moments?

I mean,  I know these couples are not sharing deep, passionate kissing, just little pecks, but still, what is the point of sharing it?  I know you are married and now you get to kiss.  So what?  Are you guys the only ones in the world doing the kissing and us wordly heathens haven't discovered kissing yet? 

It's rediculous and cringe worthy every time they do it.  Jill and Derick are the worse.

These things aren't aimed at us confirmed heathens and evil Catholic, I don't think. They are all Fundy Lifestyle Ads. Also known as "Being an ENCOURAGEMENT."  They're propaganda for the movement. 

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Ijustwantsomechips

Ijustwantsomechips

5 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

What is worse was when Jill and Jessa said they went to JB and Smugs for kissing tips since they were married and experts on kissing. I cannot believe they went to their brother who molested them and the man who was suppose to protect them from their own brother for tips.

I think I speak for everyone on this forum when I say 🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢🤮🤢

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

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1 hour ago, sugarplum said:

I was born and raised in a Baptist church and I have never heard the “pagan” reasoning for not calling it Easter! That’s definitely new to me! People I know do sometimes refer to Easter as Ressurection Day, because it is the day (observed, anyway) that Jesus resurrected from the dead. But everyone I know still refers to, and celebrates “Easter” as well. In fact, after church yesterday, my church had an egg hunt, AND the Easter Bunny there for the kids. And the Easter Bunny came to my house and left a bunch of eggs and huge Easter baskets for my kids. I know there are some people who don’t do Santa and Easter Bunny for their own personal reasons (that I obviously don’t agree with), but I have never understood why you can’t have the true meaning of these holidays while still keeping some holidY magic for the kids. They can co-exist. I grew up with Bible preaching all the time, went to a Christian school...I KNEW the real meaning of the holidays. And yet, Santa still came every year. I was never confused by this. I’m raising my kids the same way. We absolutely talk about the “why” of the holidays, but we have fun with them as well. 

Well, maybe I unfairly malign the Duggars here. But I think they do this to prove that they're better than everybody else.

Just like they have more children than anybody else, they also have more purity and more rejection of anything secular and more modesty. Etc. Etc. I think it's always a contest with them. "You don't totally reject any vaguely pagan-related traditions like the word "Easter"? Well, ha ha ha, WE do. Because we're not weak-sauce Christians like most people. We're the best!" 

Whenever they describe anything that's related to themselves, it's always the best. Even when that's laughable. Like when they describe how the "Duggar Academy" education is the best possible preparation to be a successful adult. 

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awaken

awaken

On 4/22/2019 at 11:48 AM, Churchhoney said:

I kind of think that in the case of the Duggarlings and Duggar adjacents (and maybe JB and M as well?), arrested development is a big part of why they do this stuff. In so many ways these people haven't had the chance to develop socially and interpersonally and, for heaven's sake, sexually (and intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, etc., too, I suppose) at anything like what we'd consider a normal rate.

They really all are stuck at middle-school or early-high-school age for quite a long time, seems to me. And that's the age at which this kind of ostentatious stuff is pretty typical. They just aren't grown up at the age that most people would be grown up. 

I know this feeling from the inside. I was like a 13-year-old in many ways, far into my 20s, because of the same kinds of stunting -- such as isolation from peers, prohibition against making your own choices, lack of normal experiences like socialization and dating with a wide range of people your own age, etc. -- that Duggarlings experience. (and the Duggarlings and even many of the adjacents) have more barriers than I did. They haven't even read books that expose them to normal experiences...)

-- And you do just act -- and feel -- like somebody way way younger than your age.

I had the advantage of living out among normal people. So I fairly quickly noticed how different I was, recognized that both a lot of my impulses, actions and feelings were age-inappropriate. Figured out why. And ultimately was able to suppress some of the outward signs, work through this stuff therapeutically and so on, and become more normal (though never fully normal, even at that). 

The Duggars, by contrast, are living in their bubble. For them, acting younger than their calendar ages in some dumb ways seems perfectly fine, I expect. 

I don't think arrested development is the whole story. THe other things like ownership and pissing contests and such that folks have mentioned above play roles, too, I think. But I do think that arrested development is also a strong contributor. That's my theory, anyway. 

A thousand times yes!  I’m 48 and only in my 40’s did I begin to feel like I’d “caught up” from my stunted upbringing and could function like a bona fide adult socially. I felt like such a fraud. Sometimes still do. 

On 4/22/2019 at 12:52 PM, Lunera said:

The first pic is the first time I’ve seen Garrett resembling Kendra!  And agreed, she looks totally normal for early pregnancy and not milking it for all it’s worth!  

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crazycatlady58

crazycatlady58

On 4/22/2019 at 1:55 PM, sugarplum said:

I was born and raised in a Baptist church and I have never heard the “pagan” reasoning for not calling it Easter! That’s definitely new to me! People I know do sometimes refer to Easter as Ressurection Day, because it is the day (observed, anyway) that Jesus resurrected from the dead. But everyone I know still refers to, and celebrates “Easter” as well. In fact, after church yesterday, my church had an egg hunt, AND the Easter Bunny there for the kids. And the Easter Bunny came to my house and left a bunch of eggs and huge Easter baskets for my kids. I know there are some people who don’t do Santa and Easter Bunny for their own personal reasons (that I obviously don’t agree with), but I have never understood why you can’t have the true meaning of these holidays while still keeping some holidY magic for the kids. They can co-exist. I grew up with Bible preaching all the time, went to a Christian school...I KNEW the real meaning of the holidays. And yet, Santa still came every year. I was never confused by this. I’m raising my kids the same way. We absolutely talk about the “why” of the holidays, but we have fun with them as well.

Ys that is it, you knew Jesus was real because your parents/ Church/ , Sunday School talked and related to Him all year. Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny comes just once a year and he was fun. I had a book years ago "Honey for a childs heart." It was about age appropriate books for children. She talked about this and said she had no problem with Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny. She said one Easter when her daughter was young she saw her hugging her Easter basket and chanting.. Chocolate bunny's and Christ has risen! Why not both.

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queenanne

queenanne

On 4/22/2019 at 2:55 PM, sugarplum said:

I was born and raised in a Baptist church and I have never heard the “pagan” reasoning for not calling it Easter! That’s definitely new to me! People I know do sometimes refer to Easter as Ressurection Day, because it is the day (observed, anyway) that Jesus resurrected from the dead. But everyone I know still refers to, and celebrates “Easter” as well. In fact, after church yesterday, my church had an egg hunt, AND the Easter Bunny there for the kids. And the Easter Bunny came to my house and left a bunch of eggs and huge Easter baskets for my kids. I know there are some people who don’t do Santa and Easter Bunny for their own personal reasons (that I obviously don’t agree with), but I have never understood why you can’t have the true meaning of these holidays while still keeping some holidY magic for the kids. They can co-exist. I grew up with Bible preaching all the time, went to a Christian school...I KNEW the real meaning of the holidays. And yet, Santa still came every year. I was never confused by this. I’m raising my kids the same way. We absolutely talk about the “why” of the holidays, but we have fun with them as well. 

I've heard Resurrection Sunday as well because it twins with Good Friday, but we've always had Easter baskets in my natal household and celebrations weren't discouraged.  Same for Christmas - I was taught at a fairly appropriate age that "Santa wasn't real" but that I shouldn't disillusion any children of my acquaintance; and that if my grandparents wanted to hand me presents "from Santa", that I should just play along and not be rude.  So basically, we enjoyed easter bunnies and St. Nick as fiction.

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Rabbittron

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5 hours ago, awaken said:

A thousand times yes!  I’m 48 and only in my 40’s did I begin to feel like I’d “caught up” from my stunted upbringing and could function like a bona fide adult socially. I felt like such a fraud. Sometimes still do. 

The first pic is the first time I’ve seen Garrett resembling Kendra!  And agreed, she looks totally normal for early pregnancy and not milking it for all it’s worth!  

Of course she is not milking her pregnancy after all she is a Duggar in name only.

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fonfereksglen

fonfereksglen

21 minutes ago, Snow Fairy said:

My 16 month old girl plays with sticks, rocks, dirt, grass, and even with her brother's car toys... oh the horror right

What are baby girls suppose to do outside if playing with a stick is such a boy thing to do?

Cute pic, lousy comment under it

Some things never change.  And it is not just a fundie thing.  😪.

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LilJen

LilJen

On 5/12/2019 at 5:33 PM, Snow Fairy said:

My 16 month old girl plays with sticks, rocks, dirt, grass, and even with her brother's car toys... oh the horror right

What are baby girls suppose to do outside if playing with a stick is such a boy thing to do?

Cute pic, lousy comment under it

My three sisters and I, in the 1970s, happily made mud pies, played kick the can and soccer, and all had  Tonka trucks. Mom thought Barbies were “disgusting” and forbade them from the home. We’re all perfectly functional now and not at all confused about whether we are females.

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mythoughtis

mythoughtis

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I’m ok with her comment. Yes, girls often okay with trucks, etc etc. yes, boys often play with Easy Bake ovens, etc,   But more boys play with trucks than girls, and more girls play with  Barbies than boys.   Even now as adults, we all snark about Men and their quirks and women and their quirks.  I’ve rolled my eyes st some stupid men antics just as my husband had rolled his eyes at stupid women antics. 

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fonfereksglen

fonfereksglen

2 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

I’m ok with her comment. Yes, girls often okay with trucks, etc etc. yes, boys often play with Easy Bake ovens, etc,   But more boys play with trucks than girls, and more girls play with  Barbies than boys.   Even now as adults. We all snark about Men and their quirks and women and their quirks.  I’ve rolled my eyes st some stupid men antics just as my husband had rolled his eyes at stupid women antics. 

Except.....  considerable damage has been done in the past and still is done by adults to CHILDREN who don't fit the part of being a typical boy or girl.  It has nothing to do with adults being quirky.

I suspect you never had your fifth grade teacher tell you that you would grow up to be a lesbian if you didn't start acting like a girl! 

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1 hour ago, fonfereksglen said:

Except.....  considerable damage has been done in the past and still is done by adults to CHILDREN who don't fit the part of being a typical boy or girl.  It has nothing to do with adults being quirky.

I suspect you never had your fifth grade teacher tell you that you would grow up to be a lesbian if you didn't start acting like a girl! 

I understand your point. That was a terrible thing for an adult to say to a child. But Kendra didn’t say that. She just commented on how playing with a stick was a typical thing to do for a boy.  Just as I might comment on a little girl playing dress up being a typical girl behavior.   I don’t see anything wrong with commenting that a particular behavior seems like something one gender might typically do. you  do.  That’s ok. We are all allowed to have our own opinion and we even get to say it out loud. Sometimes we even listen to each other and take away food for thought. 

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Temperance

Temperance

So Anna Duggar is claiming on social media that everyone else is due in November....

This makes sense with Anna, Joy, and Lauren. It does not make sense with Kendra who announced April 11 at 2 months. I had assumed her due date was much earlier. It is possible Anna is wrong, but probably that's right. 

@Barb23 sounds like you'll get the October date you want. 

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