Portia October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mollie said: Jill would never use that recipe. It's too much trouble for her to peel the apples. She can substitute this! (But post a stolen pic from the original recipe.) Edited October 30, 2018 by Portia 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4793846
Triple P October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, BradandJanet said: I think his jaw surgery went wrong or didn't heal properly. The braces can straighten and shift his teeth a bit, but they can't move his chin. They moved to Danger America less than 2 months(?) after the surgery, so I would assume he did not receive adequate, if any after care. I suppose some visits could have been included in all of the trips home. I don't remember if it was on Twitter or Instagram, but late last year, he said the braces would hopefully be removed in January 2018. Maybe 2019 now that were about 8 weeks out from the end of the year. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4793995
Minivanessa October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Triple P said: They moved to Danger America less than 2 months(?) after the surgery, so I would assume he did not receive adequate, if any after care. I suppose some visits could have been included in all of the trips home. I don't remember if it was on Twitter or Instagram, but late last year, he said the braces would hopefully be removed in January 2018. Maybe 2019 now that were about 8 weeks out from the end of the year. If Derick didn't get proper follow-up care, it's down to him. There are perfectly competent doctors, dentists, and oral surgeons* in Central America! I don't know the deets of where they were, but I doubt the Dillards were stuck in the boondocks far away from any cities without transportation. Heck, they not only lived in a compound with guards, they had internet/cell phone service. And didn't they shop at Wal-mart? They were working for SOS Ministries, shuttling busloads of missioncationing teens and chaperones in and out. They weren't being lonely voices for Jesus out in the rugged wilderness. They were dodging falling towel racks in their home in a guarded compound while figuring out the smallest slice of banana bread they could cut, and working hard at their Spanish lessions. Derick coulda taken proper care of himself with a little bit of effort. Maybe he did, and the surgery itself wouldn't have had a better result even if he'd stayed in Arkansas the whole time. *In fact, medical tourism is a big thing in CA, especially in Panama and Costa Rica. A friend of mine had several tooth implants done in Costa Rica. The work done by the doctors there was just fine. Even with travel costs for the succession of trips for the prep work and final implants, he saved thousands over having it done here at home. And he got some nice trips to Costa Rica! Edited October 30, 2018 by Jeeves 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4794466
Triple P October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 I don't doubt that Derick could have received adequate followup care in Central America. I doubt that Derick would believe that any doctor besides the U.S. doctor who performed the surgery would be able to provide adequate care. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4794534
Mindthinkr October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 It may also be the Derick did get adequate follow up care, but thanks to Jill’s fabulous cooking skills he didn’t get enough nutrition to heal properly. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4794676
JoanArc October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 Quote I don't know the deets of where they were, but I doubt the Dillards were stuck in the boondocks far away from any cities without transportation. They were walking distance to a freakin' Papa John's. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4794899
dariafan October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 18 hours ago, ChiCricket said: Leftover Snickers bars?! Not in my world. I miss being able to eat Snickers. *sniff sniff 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4794923
libgirl2 October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Jeeves said: *In fact, medical tourism is a big thing in CA, especially in Panama and Costa Rica. A friend of mine had several tooth implants done in Costa Rica. The work done by the doctors there was just fine. Even with travel costs for the succession of trips for the prep work and final implants, he saved thousands over having it done here at home. And he got some nice trips to Costa Rica! My mother used to fly back to her home country, Dominican Republic, for dental work. The air fare, expenses (she did stay with family) and dental work (she has had bridges put it etc...) was cheaper than what it would have been out here. I just had an implant and I could have had a great down payment on a car with what I spent. And insurance considers it cosmetic so they don't cover it. I had a broken tooth and it was in the back.... nope cosmetic! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4795039
Natalie68 October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 On 10/28/2018 at 10:01 AM, BitterApple said: I got an ad for that on my Facebook feed! I might have to check it out even though David annoys the crap out of me. WHAT??!!! How dare you speak of my David that way! HA! I have an unnatural obsession with that guy. I swear that is who Cam from Modern Family is modeled after. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4795047
Horrified October 30, 2018 Share October 30, 2018 20 hours ago, Fostersmom said: How is it possible for his teeth to be even more out of align than they were to start with? I was wondering that too! My conclusion?: DIY 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4795639
sixlets October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 21 hours ago, Portia said: She can substitute this! (But post a stolen pic from the original recipe.) This reminds me of a good recipe. It's only two ingredients...one more than Jill can handle though. Take a can of apple pie filling and a box of angel food cake mix. Combine both ingredients until thoroughly combined and transfer to a greased 9x13 pan (or an equivalent). Bake at 350 for 20 minutes. I don't make it often since it's just the two of us, but it's not enough for Mr. Six to take into work. Calories be damned! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4796086
ginger90 October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 29 minutes ago, sixlets said: This reminds me of a good recipe. It's only two ingredients...one more than Jill can handle though. Take a can of apple pie filling and a box of angel food cake mix. Combine both ingredients until thoroughly combined and transfer to a greased 9x13 pan (or an equivalent). Bake at 350 for 20 minutes. I don't make it often since it's just the two of us, but it's not enough for Mr. Six to take into work. Calories be damned! Dump cake, perfect! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4796132
ginger90 October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 Derick’s response to Jill’s tweet: Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4796153
awaken October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 He’s missing a few hashtags! No #wifey? Even a #blessed? 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4796231
Popular Post Sew Sumi October 31, 2018 Popular Post Share October 31, 2018 (edited) Oh puke. They doth protest too much, IMO. Edited October 31, 2018 by Sew Sumi 25 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4796242
BradandJanet October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 13 hours ago, Jeeves said: *In fact, medical tourism is a big thing in CA, especially in Panama and Costa Rica. A friend of mine had several tooth implants done in Costa Rica. The work done by the doctors there was just fine. Even with travel costs for the succession of trips for the prep work and final implants, he saved thousands over having it done here at home. And he got some nice trips to Costa Rica! My husband's Maine and New Hampshire relatives got their dental work done in Canada for years. They also went on organized bus trips with other seniors (a caravan!!!) to Canada to buy their medicines. That may be illegal these days, so I'm not sure what they're doing now. The savings were worth the time and cost of the trips. They came home with cans of pure maple syrup for everybody too. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4796286
andromeda331 October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, dariafan said: I miss being able to eat Snickers. *sniff sniff So do I. The best candy bar in the world. Edited October 31, 2018 by andromeda331 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4796829
galaxychaser October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 18 hours ago, ginger90 said: Derick’s response to Jill’s tweet: Notice he didn’t say bestwifeyever or bestcookever or loveyourslop ahem food. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4798132
Rabbittron October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 I am waiting for the announcement that God laid on Derelicts heart to leave law school and become a professional matchmaker. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4798335
SMama October 31, 2018 Share October 31, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 9:31 AM, Natalie68 said: WHAT??!!! How dare you speak of my David that way! HA! I have an unnatural obsession with that guy. I swear that is who Cam from Modern Family is modeled after. Good hypothesis and I know you are joking. Eric Stonestreet has repeatedly said he modeled Cam after his mom, and every time he says it it cracks me up to no end. Is she flattered? On topic, Picasso Face won’t fix his ugly outside or inside. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4798665
Popular Post Oldernowiser November 1, 2018 Popular Post Share November 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Rabbittron said: I am waiting for the announcement that God laid on Derelicts heart to leave law school. There. Fixed it for you. If Derick actually graduates and passes a bar exam, any bar exam, I will devote the remainder of my days to gestation and inedible recipes involving canned goods. 27 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4798946
GeeGolly November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 7 hours ago, Oldernowiser said: There. Fixed it for you. If Derick actually graduates and passes a bar exam, any bar exam, I will devote the remainder of my days to gestation and inedible recipes involving canned goods. Can I deliver your babies? I'm an expert now after watching a Youtube video of crazies ladies delivering dolls! 24 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4799420
Normades November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 4 hours ago, GeeGolly said: Can I deliver your babies? I'm an expert now after watching a Youtube video of crazies ladies delivering dolls! Hey, maybe that's where Jill got her training as a midwife. It would explain a lot. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4799678
galaxychaser November 1, 2018 Share November 1, 2018 So what did Jill make them for dinner? Is Dereck still in school? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4801246
Popular Post mynextmistake November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share November 2, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 10:57 AM, ginger90 said: Someone asked Derick about his thoughts on Halloween. Day 492. Today was a most vexing day. I was released from my cell for the evening meal period as usual. While I was eating the dried apples and library paste served to me by the female guard, I heard a ringing sound coming from the door to the hovel in which I am kept. The male guard opened the door, and there stood two captives I had never seen before! They were disguised as curiously bipedal forest animals and accompanied by another male guard. That male guard conversed briefly with my male guard and then marched the captives back down the walk to the next hut. My heart leapt with glee. Clearly, this night had been selected as a night to transport captives from one prison to the next! I had expected such an event was coming and had developed a plan to distract my guards by drawing their attention to a couple that was holding hands without being betrothed. While they were babbling incessantly about something they call “sin,” I would escape my restraints and flee. Sadly, my joy was short-lived. My fellow captive, Yaaay, asked the male guard if we were to be permitted to leave the house to travel with the other captives. The male guard said no, because “Jesus” would not approve of such an action. I am unacquainted with this “Jesus,” but it sounds as though he is the prison overseer. The doorbell was rung several more times, but the male guard refused to open the door. Finally, he muttered something about a “study group” and left the hovel. (I do not know what a “study group” is, but the last time he returned from one he smelled of fried chicken and harlotry.) The female guard then returned me to my cell, where I scrawled this entry before returning my journal to the mop bucket, where it has remained unmolested since my last entry. 110 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4802008
Popular Post Sew Sumi November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share November 2, 2018 I had a straight face until "fried chicken and harlotry." ? 36 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4802028
graefin November 2, 2018 Share November 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Sew Sumi said: I had a straight face until "fried chicken and harlotry." ? I only made it to "holding hands without being betrothed," at which point I straight up guffawed :D 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4802172
Jynnan tonnix November 2, 2018 Share November 2, 2018 I was trying to figure out how he knew what harlotry smelled like. LOL. Made me read it even more in Stewie's voice! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4802209
Popular Post Broken Ox November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share November 2, 2018 4 hours ago, mynextmistake said: My fellow captive, Yaaay, Gets me every time. 32 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4802210
Madtown November 2, 2018 Share November 2, 2018 7 hours ago, mynextmistake said: Day 492. Today was a most vexing day. I was released from my cell for the evening meal period as usual. While I was eating the dried apples and library paste served to me by the female guard, I heard a ringing sound coming from the door to the hovel in which I am kept. The male guard opened the door, and there stood two captives I had never seen before! They were disguised as curiously bipedal forest animals and accompanied by another male guard. That male guard conversed briefly with my male guard and then marched the captives back down the walk to the next hut. My heart leapt with glee. Clearly, this night had been selected as a night to transport captives from one prison to the next! I had expected such an event was coming and had developed a plan to distract my guards by drawing their attention to a couple that was holding hands without being betrothed. While they were babbling incessantly about something they call “sin,” I would escape my restraints and flee. Sadly, my joy was short-lived. My fellow captive, Yaaay, asked the male guard if we were to be permitted to leave the house to travel with the other captives. The male guard said no, because “Jesus” would not approve of such an action. I am unacquainted with this “Jesus,” but it sounds as though he is the prison overseer. The doorbell was rung several more times, but the male guard refused to open the door. Finally, he muttered something about a “study group” and left the hovel. (I do not know what a “study group” is, but the last time he returned from one he smelled of fried chicken and harlotry.) The female guard then returned me to my cell, where I scrawled this entry before returning my journal to the mop bucket, where it has remained unmolested since my last entry. Another hilarious post @mynextmistake! I lost it right away at dried apples and library paste! 2 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said: I was trying to figure out how he knew what harlotry smelled like. LOL. Made me read it even more in Stewie's voice! I wish I was friends Seth McFarland so I could ask him to record @mynextmistake's fantastic posts in Stewie's voice! 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4802428
QuinnInND November 2, 2018 Share November 2, 2018 @mynextmistake that is comedy gold!!! I'm standing outside waiting for my dog to find a spot, and I'm laughing like crazy. The neighbors probably think I've lost it. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4802518
Normades November 2, 2018 Share November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Madtown said: I wish I was friends Seth McFarland so I could ask him to record @mynextmistake's fantastic posts in Stewie's voice! I think Seth needs to be made aware of @mynextmistake so that he can hire a new writer for the show. Those posts are AMAZING!!! 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4802685
xwordfanatik November 2, 2018 Share November 2, 2018 Dear Sam: I think I love you. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4802809
Popular Post jcbrown November 2, 2018 Popular Post Share November 2, 2018 I got an email from Lands' End yesterday and the subject line was "Yaaayyy! Friends & Family starts today." My first thought was "holy crap, they hired Jill." Then it occurred to me that only my fellow posters would appreciate that thought. 51 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4803814
Popular Post mynextmistake November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share November 3, 2018 I’m really glad everyone is enjoying the Sam posts so much. They are fun to write. 58 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4804359
awaken November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 Library paste...hovel! ? 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4804372
MunichNark November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 7 hours ago, mynextmistake said: I’m really glad everyone is enjoying the Sam posts so much. They are fun to write. They are hilarious and make me chuckel every time 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4804675
galaxychaser November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 17 hours ago, jcbrown said: I got an email from Lands' End yesterday and the subject line was "Yaaayyy! Friends & Family starts today." My first thought was "holy crap, they hired Jill." Then it occurred to me that only my fellow posters would appreciate that thought. It would be nice if she got a job since her head ship will never work. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805001
Popular Post BitterApple November 3, 2018 Popular Post Share November 3, 2018 41 minutes ago, galaxychaser said: It would be nice if she got a job since her head ship will never work. If you stop to think about it, the Duggar women, minus Joy, would probably qualify as breadwinners. It's through them that the show and TLC income exists. That's why I laugh at Jeremy's pretentiousness. Dude was living in a crappy apartment with security bars on the windows. The nice new house, big SUV and freedom to make sporadic appearances at "his" church is all thanks to Jingle. Ditto with Derelict and Bin with school. They wouldn't have the luxury of taking their sweet time to find themselves if they were sole providers. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but it's the exact opposite of everything these people have been preaching to us for years. 49 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805087
graefin November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, BitterApple said: If you stop to think about it, the Duggar women, minus Joy, would probably qualify as breadwinners. Minus Jill, you mean? In any case, agreed. They are working and have been since childhood. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805133
ginger90 November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 Video Israel gets ignored, and Samuel eats off a chair. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805139
farmgal4 November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, ginger90 said: Video Israel gets ignored, and Samuel eats off a chair. At 4-years-old, Israel is already smarter and more observant than his idiot mother. WTH is that green shit in the heart-shaped bowl?? 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805159
ginger90 November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 Jill mentions in the video that it’s Sunday. She waited a week to post it, and still felt it was a good video to share. Good thing she had the video to refer to to see where Israel’s piece was before she moved it ? While I’m at it, the first thing she asks Israel is who is winning. Why? Because it wasn’t Israel. 22 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805169
farmgal4 November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, ginger90 said: Jill mentions in the video that it’s Sunday. She waited a week to post it, and still felt it was a good video to share. Good thing she had the video to refer to to see where Israel’s piece was before she moved it ? While I’m at it, the first thing she asks Israel is who is winning. Why? Because it wasn’t Israel. You’re exactly right. My heart aches for that precious child. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805180
awaken November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, BitterApple said: If you stop to think about it, the Duggar women, minus Joy, would probably qualify as breadwinners. It's through them that the show and TLC income exists. That's why I laugh at Jeremy's pretentiousness. Dude was living in a crappy apartment with security bars on the windows. The nice new house, big SUV and freedom to make sporadic appearances at "his" church is all thanks to Jingle. Ditto with Derelict and Bin with school. They wouldn't have the luxury of taking their sweet time to find themselves if they were sole providers. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but it's the exact opposite of everything these people have been preaching to us for years. You’re so right. No wonder he can’t take his eyes off her! (His words!). 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805251
Temperance November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 (edited) nevermind Edited November 3, 2018 by Temperance Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805264
Westiepeach November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 1 hour ago, ginger90 said: Video Israel gets ignored, and Samuel eats off a chair. Jesus F. Christ. Give that poor kid a break. I have no children myself (by choice), but even I have more of a "heart for children" than these 2 goofballs do. Sheesh. 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805297
louannems November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 Poor Izzy's THREE questions go completely unnoticed by BOTH parents! 19 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805326
Christina87 November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 I really wish Jill and Derick could get some kind of counseling (ridiculous thought, I know!). I feel like Izzy represents a loss of freedom and a bad time in their lives. I wish they could work through these negative emotions instead of taking it out on their child! 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805559
jcbrown November 3, 2018 Share November 3, 2018 (edited) Is that supposed to be guacamole in the heart-shaped bowl? It looks like pureed broccoli. I may be projecting, but Israel looks so anxious. He has a right to be anxious, of course, because he has absolutely shitty parents. It seems like when she posts videos of them eating, it is either slab-o-cow that Dreck cooked or some random snacks, like the car picnic with the hummus or this game video. Jill probably has crap eating habits from her upbringing (as we've seen in her recipes) and Dreck has his own issues with food (as we've seen with his "gagging" problem and his defense of her recipes on Twitter). Those kids don't have a chance. Edited November 3, 2018 by jcbrown I was not educated at the SOTDRT so I know making sense it important. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/4651-jill-derick-the-kids-moving-on/page/826/#findComment-4805622
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