Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[libgirl2]

22 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

I know a woman who was depressed for months because she felt like a "failure" having a C-section. She's not a fundy. She just thought that a C-section wasn't "really" giving birth. 

I kind of understand. I have only one child and had a c-section. I always wonder about giving birth. Then I think about it this way, I had no labor pains (it was schedules since he was breech), was fairly comfortable throughout and still got my baby. I gave birth, just a different way. 

[Tikichick]

5 hours ago, Lady Whistleup said:

I know a woman who was depressed for months because she felt like a "failure" having a C-section. She's not a fundy. She just thought that a C-section wasn't "really" giving birth. 

I felt a bit guilty?, unsuccessful?, IDK, for the first couple weeks after my first was born via an unplanned C-section when it was discovered she was breach when I was checked at the hospital after going into labor.   I had managed to hype myself into the idea of attempting an all natural birth if possible during the last weeks of pregnancy.   I had to wait for the doc to be available because I was number 3 for unexpected sections that morning and I wound up telling my husband I changed my mind and just wanted to go home -- in a very whiny voice.  

It's kind of funny looking back on it, because none of it is particularly like me at all -- not the no epidural plan, not the attempt to get my husband to take me back home, not being upset about the delivery, none of it.   My husband looked at me like I'd grown another head when I was insisting I changed my mind and wanted to go home that morning.  My hormones must have been seriously surging.   I ended up telling my doc I did not want to consider attempting a VBAC and was quite happy to schedule my second daughter's delivery.    

[Lady Whistleup]

47 minutes ago, Tikichick said:

I felt a bit guilty?, unsuccessful?, IDK, for the first couple weeks after my first was born via an unplanned C-section when it was discovered she was breach when I was checked at the hospital after going into labor.   I had managed to hype myself into the idea of attempting an all natural birth if possible during the last weeks of pregnancy.   I had to wait for the doc to be available because I was number 3 for unexpected sections that morning and I wound up telling my husband I changed my mind and just wanted to go home -- in a very whiny voice.  

It's really big among Asian populations to care about "feng-shui" when giving birth. Your doctor at the hospital is not going to care about that. Also, star birth charts are really popular. It's weird. I think-- the baby is the baby. You have a healthy baby, that's what's important. But many moms don't see it that way.

[Scarlett45]

Further discussions of birthing circumstances, unrelated to Jill should go to Small Talk. 

[Pinke]

On 6/8/2022 at 10:48 PM, Nysha said:

I think they'll name the baby Justice Ezra or Ezra Justice is honor of both the holiday & Derek's new role in life.

Just wondering – I get the ''Justice'' part, but would the Ezra part be in reference to anyone/anything in particular?

[awaken]

4 hours ago, Pinke said:

Just wondering – I get the ''Justice'' part, but would the Ezra part be in reference to anyone/anything in particular?

The Old Testament, to go along with Israel and Samuel. 

[BetyBee]

If they are spelling out I-S-R-A-E-L, shouldn't the latest Dillard be named Adam or something else beginning with A?

[sagittarius sue]

1 hour ago, BetyBee said:

If they are spelling out I-S-R-A-E-L, shouldn't the latest Dillard be named Adam or something else beginning with A?

Abraham, then they could have an Abe Dillard.

[crazy8s]

my guess is the new boy will be named Aaron.

[GeeGolly]

They have Israel David, Samuel Scott - I'm going with Levi Andrew (James' middle name).

[Zella]

I don't think they are actually trying to spell Israel. They do seem to like the Biblical names that end in -el for boys, so I'm thinking a Daniel or Gabriel is more likely. 

[GeeGolly]

30 minutes ago, Zella said:

I don't think they are actually trying to spell Israel. They do seem to like the Biblical names that end in -el for boys, so I'm thinking a Daniel or Gabriel is more likely. 

Or maybe Biblical names that are Jewish?

[Zella]

2 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Or maybe Biblical names that are Jewish?

I personally think that's more coincidental than intentional and just because of the overlap between the Abrahamic religions. 

[beckie]

If they are spelling out I S R A E L (which I don't think they are), Abel would fit and also go with Israel and Samuel.

[Nysha]

I think Abel would be great and they could still have an Abe Dillard.

[farmgal4]

On 6/8/2022 at 10:06 AM, ozziemom said:

My birthday is July 5 so I’m hoping to not share with new Dilly baby. Just hoping he’s born in the hospital. 

Surely to goodness she won’t attempt a home birth.  If she does, she’s a complete and utter fool.

[Zella]

1 hour ago, Nysha said:

I think Abel would be great and they could still have an Abe Dillard.

Just don't name the next kid Cain! 

[Albanyguy]

10 hours ago, Zella said:

I'm thinking a Daniel or Gabriel is more likely. 

Wasn't Gabriel the name Jessa had originally picked out for Spurgeon? I can see her being pissed if Jill "steals" it.

[emmawoodhouse]

6 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

Wasn't Gabriel the name Jessa had originally picked out for Spurgeon? I can see her being pissed if Jill "steals" it.

The Gabriel thing is more wishful thinking on Jessica's part, I think. Jessa has kept names and genders under wraps until after the births. I don't think she to!d anyone Spurgeon's gender, let alone divulge a name. Not when the TLC stakes were at an all-time high. Jessa knew how to play that game.

On camera.

[sagittarius sue]

16 minutes ago, Zella said:

Just don't name the next kid Cain! 

I once had a co-worker whose son was named Cain.  I never said anything, but always wondered why.  I remember a character in Hardy's Far From the Madding Crowd named that because his mother confused which one was the murderer.  🙃

I'm sure Jill would never name a child Cain.

[Tuxcat]

Mind not working tonight... they have Israel and Samuel. That is I and S.

If they are spelling ISRAEL - wouldn't the next kid be an R name?

Why did we jump to A?

(I don't think they are spelling Israel but I'm having trouble following anyway - did I miss a kid?)

[Zella]

4 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Mind not working tonight... they have Israel and Samuel. That is I and S.

If they are spelling ISRAEL - wouldn't the next kid be an R name?

Why did we jump to A?

(I don't think they are spelling Israel but I'm having trouble following anyway - did I miss a kid?)

The baby they miscarried they announced as River, though I tend to think that was a gender-neutral name they chose after the miscarriage rather than one they actually planned to use. 

59 minutes ago, Albanyguy said:

Wasn't Gabriel the name Jessa had originally picked out for Spurgeon? I can see her being pissed if Jill "steals" it.

I was actually wondering that too. It was certainly the name that Ben's sister announced, and based on Jessa's personality, it wouldn't surprise me at all if she changed the name out of spite. Poor Spurgeon.

[Minivanessa]

N/M. I didn't see the above post which answered the question already.

Edited June 13, 2022 by Jeeves

[the-grey-lady]

2 hours ago, Albanyguy said:

12 hours ago, Zella said:

I'm thinking a Daniel or Gabriel is more likely. 

Wasn't Gabriel the name Jessa had originally picked out for Spurgeon?

Surely she regrets that choice now.

[emmawoodhouse]

3 minutes ago, the-grey-lady said:

Surely she regrets that choice now.

Ben certainly loves it. It's probably the only time he's gotten his way in that marriage.

[lascuba]

10 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Ben certainly loves it. It's probably the only time he's gotten his way in that marriage.

And he should never get his way every again because of it.

[the-grey-lady]

1 hour ago, lascuba said:

And he should never get his way every again because of it.

Can you imagine being so beaten down that THAT NAME is your hill to die on?

[Teriacky]

If Jessa wanted to use Gabriel as a name for one of her children she had her chance with her three later children. Henry could have been Gabriel. Ivy or Fern could have been Gabrielle. Therefore, the name is up for grabs. 

[madpsych78]

Israel

Samuel

Raphael

Abel

Emmanuel

Libel

There, that is how you spell out ISRAEL while maintaining the "-el" theme. Of course they all have to be boys to make it work...

[lascuba]

10 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

Israel

Samuel

Raphael

Abel

Emmanuel

Libel

There, that is how you spell out ISRAEL while maintaining the "-el" theme. Of course they all have to be boys to make it work...

Considering the recent defamation case, "Libel" might be a bit too on the nose.

Edited June 13, 2022 by lascuba

[BigBingerBro]

2 hours ago, lascuba said:

Considering the recent defamation case, "Libel" might be a bit too on the nose.

I prefer Lazarus

[Zella]

Jael was a pretty kickass woman in the Bible with an -el ending. I imagine Jill is probably not on board with a J name, though, given her family's naming theme and their current estrangement. 

Edited June 13, 2022 by Zella

[GeeGolly]

Ariel, Ethel and Laurel.

[cmr2014]

I kind of doubt the "spelling out Israel" thing. If they were doing that, it's just the kind of stupid, boring tidbit they'd share, and none of the gen2 Duggars (other than Anna) have shown any interest in creating a naming gimmick for their kids.

I think that they probably just like the -el names. I, personally, like them, and also names starting with "A." I continually gravitate to "A" names for my pets even though I spend a lot of time thinking about different names . . .

If they do like the -el names, there are still some left in the Old Testament: Abel, Azriel, Daniel, Emmanuel, Ezekiel, Gabriel, Lemuel, Nathaniel, Raphael. Of these, I think Emmanuel and Nathaniel are the most likely, but who knows.

Jill and Derick have done a reasonably good job of naming their kids, and I doubt they're going to dig too very deep into the Old Testament to find something unusual. Really, other than Spurgeon*, all of the gen3 kids have nice enough names.

*Oh, and Wilberforce! How could I have forgotten about Wilberforce!

Edited June 14, 2022 by cmr2014
How could I have forgotten about Wilberforce!

[Zella]

2 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

I kind of doubt the "spelling out Israel" thing. If they were doing that, it's just the kind of stupid, boring tidbit they'd share, and none of the gen2 Duggars (other than Anna) have shown any interest in creating a naming gimmick for their kids.

I think that they probably just like the -el names. I, personally, like them, and also names starting with "A." I continually gravitate to "A" names for my pets even though I spend a lot of time thinking about different names . . .

I agree. It also seems a bit ridiculous to spell it out once you've already named the first kid that. Not that they are immune to ridiculousness but still. 

I noticed they seem to like nicknames. I'd previously voted for Gabriel and Daniel but overlooked Nathaniel. I could definitely see them using that one. 

[momma2seven]

With them using River for the miscarriage I could see them using Asher this time if they are trying to spell Israel. I feel like Asher/Ash has a little bit of the earthy theme like River, while also being biblical.

[Jynnan tonnix]

On 6/12/2022 at 11:25 PM, Tuxcat said:

Mind not working tonight... they have Israel and Samuel. That is I and S.

If they are spelling ISRAEL - wouldn't the next kid be an R name?

Why did we jump to A?

(I don't think they are spelling Israel but I'm having trouble following anyway - did I miss a kid?)

Well, Jill did have a miscarriage a little while ago. I believe they chose a name beginning with "R" for that baby.

[GeeGolly]

Have there been any sightings of Fenna? I didn't notice her at the before church pit fire. I wonder how she's adjusting to the new digs.

[ginger90]

9 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Have there been any sightings of Fenna? I didn't notice her at the before church pit fire. I wonder how she's adjusting to the new digs.

She had a video in her stories at that time. Fenna was there. 😁

[iwantcookies]

Maybe Jill had her baby! She has been quiet ! 
 

No new posts since June 6th.

[Stevie Nicks]

1 hour ago, iwantcookies said:

Maybe Jill had her baby! She has been quiet ! 
 

No new posts since June 6th.

I thought she was due in July or so. Or maybe I'm wrong. They may just be settling in the new place and getting everything ready for baby. 

[emmawoodhouse]

With the myriad father's day posts, I missed Jill not posting anything for Derelict. That's out of character for her. 

Maybe she was due in very early July and went a week or so early?

[emmawoodhouse]

Insta keeps telling me that Jill made a post, but I am coming up empty. She missed Father's Day and her anniversary on Tuesday. 

I wonder what's up?

[Zella]

Isn't the baby due in early July? Maybe he's making an early appearance. 

[GeeGolly]

27 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Insta keeps telling me that Jill made a post, but I am coming up empty. She missed Father's Day and her anniversary on Tuesday. 

I wonder what's up?

I went and checked - no new post. I clicked on their blog link and was redirected due to potential malicious link.

[emmawoodhouse]

2 minutes ago, Zella said:

Isn't the baby due in early July? Maybe he's making an early appearance. 

I thought that a few days ago when she didn't post on Father's Day. But now, she also missed their anniversary. It has to be the baby 

[Zella]

I just checked their website and nothing new since the move announcement earlier this month. I wonder if they posted something and quickly deleted it?

[SMama]

Does this mean she gave birth or just that the shower is coming soon.

[Stevie Nicks]

I hope all is well with her and baby. 

[emmawoodhouse]

Why does Jill need a shower? She probably already has all she needs for another boy.