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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events


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  On 8/15/2019 at 10:35 PM, Sew Sumi said:

The Duggars seem to be the camp's best customers. And you know it's all comped. How do the Forsyths make any money? It's not as if the place was packed.

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The Forsyths were involved in the Greece missioncation with Lauren Caldwell, Jason, and Madi Nicole. I imagine they were compensated accordingly for herding a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds and keeping them from sinning. Plus they host a lot of "retreats" at Fort Rock and rely on seemingly free labor. This year's schedule looks barren compared to previous years though. 

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I wonder if Man Camp is part of Dwain Swanson's (Si's father in-law) and Will Peters's (Michelle's nephew) ministry. It's the first I heard of "Man Camp".  Their ministry is called "Courageous Men of the Word". Will Peters mentions it in his biography:

"Recently I was encouraged by Dwain and some of my brothers in our group after a man camp to step out in faith and move 450 miles away from home to do the job of my dreams. So I prayed about it and felt the Lords hand of direction on our family. I now work on airplanes installing avionics removing old instruments and updating the airplane with the latest equipment. Previously during the day I worked at a drainage pipe manufacturing company, working in the machine shop. I programmed and ran a CNC milling machine making specialty parts for the equipment used in the manufacturing of corrugated plastic pipe.

I grew up on a small farm in south western Ohio about 40 miles outside Cincinnati. We raised animals and crops.

My parents were new Christians coming to know the Lord while in high school. When I was young my mother was my Sunday school teacher and one Sunday in the summer at the age of 6 years old, because of a message she taught from the Bible, I realized that I was a sinner headed for Hell, I repented of my sin and was saved. Later on in my high school years after a missionary came and spoke at our church and I felt like the Lord was leading to study and go to the mission field. So I went to a Christian college and studied Missionary Aviation. I received my mechanics and pilots licenses. After school things didn’t happen the way you would expect and because of some life changing events I didn’t go to the mission field. It took me awhile to realize that God plans are better than any of my plans. He allowed the circumstances in my life to mould me and shape me into an instrument to be used for his service.

I’m thankful to the Lord for a loving wife (Angela) and four children he has blessed me with. Luke, Jacob, Evan, and Emily. One of my favorite verses tells of God’s power.

Jeremiah 32:27 Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?

You might say the answer to this verse is found in Matthew 19:26 (another favorite verse), but Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
I love the hope these verses give us in the seemingly impossible situations of our life."

  On 8/16/2019 at 4:52 AM, Temperance said:

I was young my mother was my Sunday school teacher and one Sunday in the summer at the age of 6 years old, because of a message she taught from the Bible, I realized that I was a sinner headed for Hell, I repented of my sin and was saved.

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I wonder what the message was that she taught and what sort of sin a 6 year old committed that convinced them they were headed for Hell? 

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  On 8/15/2019 at 10:27 PM, GeeGolly said:

Ugh, Man Camp. I shudder.

It's not that I have a problem with the guys in a family hanging out or the girls having a night out. I shudder when thinking of what they're being taught because they're males and what manly interpretation of "God's Word" they're hearing.

I shudder.

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As a former fundie, I share your shudder and shed a tear 

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  On 8/19/2019 at 8:08 AM, Temperance said:

Anna Duggar was a big fan of the movie War Room. I'm seeing ads for a movie called Overcomer, which is made by the makers of War Room. 

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I went to the movies last week.  Saw Yesterday (excellent) and The Art of Racing in the Rain (pretty good, book was a lot better).  Saw a preview for Overcomer and it is clearly in the same vein as Fireproof and War Room.  The trailer is typical inspirational movie stuff.  Guy is a high school coach who for whatever reason, can't coach the team sport he loves and is instead made track coach, which is a sport he hates.  Only one kid, a young black girl tries out for the team.  Through prayer and God, everything works out in the end.  Everybody finds the Lord and is happy ever after. Yadda, yadda.

I can see why Anna likes these kinds of movies, aside from the fact they are probably the only ones she ever sees.  In them, the godly ones who read the Bible, pray and follow the Lord's will end up living happily ever after because of their faith.  I imagine that's the only way she can continue on being married to Josh, she expects that same happy ending for herself.  I think she's delusional.

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The Christian film industry is booming, if my the cinema in my smallish Southern city is any indication. As often as not, one of our twelve screens is occupied by something that looks decidedly inspirational. (My husband and I inevitably run into church friends in the lobby, and the convo usually goes like this: THEM: "Oh, did you see Overcomer?" US: "Nah, we saw Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood. We're more, um, Tarantino people.") If Anna wants to seem cool by recommending "mainstream" movies--almost as if she's, you know, culturally literate--she's got a lot of mediocre Christian films to choose from. 

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  On 8/19/2019 at 3:43 PM, Portia said:

The Christian film industry is booming, if my the cinema in my smallish Southern city is any indication. As often as not, one of our twelve screens is occupied by something that looks decidedly inspirational. My husband and I inevitably run into church friends in the lobby, and the convo usually goes like this: THEM: "Oh, did you see Overcomer?" US: "Nah, we saw Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood. We're more, um, Tarantino people." 

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I buy these movies for my library and they stay checked out for at least 1-2 months once they come in.  I have no idea which ones to buy, so I just go with the ones that make me gag the least when reading the descriptions.  I will never watch any of these movies for a variety of reasons, but I do have to give the taxpayers what they want.  The only hard no's for me have been Gosnell and Unplanned--there is a difference between inspirational films and propaganda.  

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  On 8/19/2019 at 3:43 PM, Portia said:

The Christian film industry is booming, if my the cinema in my smallish Southern city is any indication. As often as not, one of our twelve screens is occupied by something that looks decidedly inspirational. (My husband and I inevitably run into church friends in the lobby, and the convo usually goes like this: THEM: "Oh, did you see Overcomer?" US: "Nah, we saw Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood. We're more, um, Tarantino people.") If Anna wants to seem cool by recommending "mainstream" movies--almost as if she's, you know, culturally literate--she's got a lot of mediocre Christian films to choose from. 

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I am FB friends with a Christian author and she saw Once Upon a Time..... she also watches very non-Christian TV like Walking Dead. I don't watch inspirational films, I find most of them are pretty crappy, lousy acting, boring and heavy handed. 

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  On 9/4/2019 at 11:35 PM, ginger90 said:

6 pictures:

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Josie looks like she is going full blown Lizzie Borden in the back.  Look out Meechelle and JBoob!

  On 9/5/2019 at 3:39 PM, laurakaye said:

Good heavens, is that Josie in the first picture impersonating Lizzie Borden but using a hammer instead of an ax?!

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OH MAN!  I posted something similar!  Shoulda read further first!  HA!

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  On 9/5/2019 at 5:11 PM, Natalie68 said:

Josie looks like she is going full blown Lizzie Borden in the back.  Look out Meechelle and JBoob!

OH MAN!  I posted something similar!  Shoulda read further first!  HA!

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I never comment specifically on the little ones,  but as a former teacher ..... what is wrong with her?  Other than a video of her singing the SSpB, which I have never listened to and may or may not indicate a savant talent.... it appears she is a lost soul.  Academically,  she may be properly placed by hanging with her nieces and nephews and as far away from mom as possible.😡

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  On 9/10/2019 at 9:34 PM, Sew Sumi said:

Looks like it's been taken down, whatever it was.

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It was Anna posting about their (Duggar) Monday "Family Night". They celebrated Mason's 2nd birthday & the Swanson's anniversary.  Smugs & Anna made steak fajitas.  By the looks of the fajita picture, it was held at the TTH. Austin enlightened them about the Bahama trip and Joe & Kendra were missed cuz they were away. There was a picture of Dwayne/Dwight & Lana playing the Newlywed Game. Think that sums it up.

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