Jessa, Ben and Their Brood: Making a (Diaper) Mountain out of a Mold House

[latetotheparty]

8 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I'll laugh if she gets to heaven and finds out God's assigned her to wash all those long white robes for all those angels. !😈

The comeuppance I want to see is Jeremy having to look I to the face of Jesus and hAve to defend his social justice stance. 

[EVS]

I want Derick’s entrance to heaven to be blocked by a chorus of transgender angels. 

[GeeGolly]

Most would have taken the laundry room breakdown as God's sign that blessing making is done.

Lets see when and if Jessa receives a message from God, and how she interprets it. Will it be when there's no more rooms for beds? Or when it's no longer appropriate to have Ivy in with the boys?

Erin Bates is ready to put her third girl into a bedroom with the oldest, who is a boy. Their house is similar in size to the mold house.

If When Jessa has another child will they move or add on? Or will they sardine a fourth child into the kids' bedroom too?

[Temperance]

I get the feeling JB will be willing to help them find a bigger home when they decide they need it. 

[doodlebug]

4 hours ago, Temperance said:

I get the feeling JB will be willing to help them find a bigger home when they decide they need it. 

I think you mean when HE decides they need it.  Considering JB thought it was just hunky dory for his family of 16 to live in a two bedroom home and eventually moved into a home where 19 kids shared just two bedrooms, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for JB to go house hunting on their behalf if I were Jessa.

Edited September 28, 2019 by doodlebug

[JoanArc]

23 hours ago, Temperance said:

I get the feeling JB will be willing to help them find a bigger home when they decide they need it. 

He'll give them a house. For $1.

[Fosca]

I'm surprised he's not giving them Grandma Mary's house.  The family is getting to be the right size for it.   Maybe JB is still pissed that Jessa basically forced him to let her marry Ben.

Edited September 29, 2019 by Fosca

[Jeanne222]

9 minutes ago, Fosca said:

I'm surprised he's not giving them Grandma Mary's house.  The family is getting to be the right size for it.   Maybe JB is still pissed that Jessa basically forced him to let her marry Ben.

I thought grandma Mary lives with them?

What's her house look like?

[Natalie68]

3 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I thought grandma Mary lives with them?

What's her house look like?

She died a few months ago.

[doodlebug]

3 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I thought grandma Mary lives with them?

What's her house look like?

Earlier this year, Grandma Mary drowned in the pool at the house they are now selling.  The house is the one with the pool that has been seen on the show on occasion.  It is also the house where Jill and Derrick lived briefly before heading to Danger America.

[Jeanne222]

I knew grandma Mary died but I thought she lived in the big dugger  house and did all the laundry!

I remember the palace JB was fixing to sell.  Was that mcmansion Mary's home?

[Lunera]

4 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I knew grandma Mary died but I thought she lived in the big dugger  house and did all the laundry!

I remember the palace JB was fixing to sell.  Was that mcmansion Mary's home?

She lived in a home near the big house with her daughter. She hasn't lived with the Duggars for a few years. 

[doodlebug]

6 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I knew grandma Mary died but I thought she lived in the big dugger  house and did all the laundry!

I remember the palace JB was fixing to sell.  Was that mcmansion Mary's home?

At some point, apparently after the Josh scandal broke and the original show was canceled, Grandma Mary moved into the pool house which is right next to the compound.

[Jeanne222]

1 minute ago, Lunera said:

She lived in a home near the big house with her daughter. She hasn't lived with the Duggars for a few years. 

That's beautiful!  Thank you!

[Sew Sumi]

2 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

I knew grandma Mary died but I thought she lived in the big dugger  house and did all the laundry!

I remember the palace JB was fixing to sell.  Was that mcmansion Mary's home?

No, the 10,000 sf mansion is a different place. It can be yours for the reduced price of $1.25 M. The pool house is listed at just under $500k.

[yogi2014L]

If Mary Owns the house, Boob might have to sell it depending on whatever her will states. Boob isn't her only child right?

Additionally, if I was jessa I would PASS HARD on a giant ass house that my grandma had a tragic accident in. 

[Sew Sumi]

The house was transferred from Mary's trust to Boobchelle's within the last month. It is also on the market.

[Madtown]

I'll leave everyone else to comment on where Henry's hands are and if it's on purpose..2 pictures.

[JoanArc]

Stop trying to make Ivy happen. She's not going to happen.

[Sew Sumi]

At least she's not wearing a horrible head wrap. I think that's a first.

[BitterApple]

Cute kids and cute picture but not something I'd share with millions of strangers on the Internet.

[cmr2014]

On 9/25/2019 at 11:50 AM, Jeeves said:

I have no pity for him. He hopped on the Duggar gravy train and it's chugging right along. He's not starving, or working double shifts to feed his family, or trying to take care of a child with special needs, or having his ass busted by big medical bills because someone in his family got sick or hurt bad. He's a fucking TV star, and yeah I know what if the gravy train stops and he's got a bunch of kids and then times will be hard? Maybe he'll be prepared for that, and even if he's not he'll survive it.

There are lots of people in this world who have my sympathy, and none of them are Duggars or Duggar in-laws.

I can completely relate to this.

On one hand, Ben is a kid who got exactly what he wanted when he was 19 years old. I can say with certainty that I would have been very unfortunate in the long run if I had gotten exactly what I wanted at 19. Ben also comes from a family (and married into a family) where getting married and starting a family took precedence over his education -- what kind of bizarro world is that?

On the other hand, Ben outed himself almost immediately after he and Jessa started courting as a narrow-minded bigot, and know-it-all. He also hunted down and stalked Jessa because he knew who she was and he wanted to be part of the dog-and-pony show -- it's hard to quantify that level of creepiness.

[beagletime]

2 hours ago, Madtown said:

I'll leave everyone else to comment on where Henry's hands are and if it's on purpose..2 pictures.

In this case I think it's just happens to be the way he's holding her.  Ivy looks like she'd fall over otherwise.  With her upbringing I'm impressed that Jessa let's her kids run around half dressed.  Her children seem happy, cuddled and well loved.

[floridamom]

Wow, Ivy looks huge.

[Zahdii]

18 hours ago, Madtown said:

I'll leave everyone else to comment on where Henry's hands are and if it's on purpose..2 pictures.

Are you seriously insinuating that a two year old is trying to cop a feel of his 4 month old sisters breasts?

Henry's uncle may have molested his mother over 15 years ago, but he doesn't know that.  The tendency to molest isn't genetic, as far as I know.  Henry probably doesn't think much about breasts unless he sees his mom breastfeeding his little sister, and then he would see them as Mommy's way of feeding the baby.

All I get out of those pictures is a toddler trying to keep his baby sister from flopping over or falling off the couch so his mom can take a picture of two of her adorable children while they're both being smiley and happy.

[doodlebug]

9 minutes ago, Zahdii said:

Are you seriously insinuating that a two year old is trying to cop a feel of his 4 month old sisters breasts?

No, not to put words in her mouth, but I think she was saying that Jessa told Henry to hold his hands over the baby's chest lest her bare baby breasts defraud any men who might see the photo.  Remember, these are the Duggars.  Meechelle chastised Josie for removing a sweater and exposing her bare arms on TV back when she was still preschool age. The Duggars have a very warped view of modesty and their POV is that even children, especially girls, must be covered because they can inspire lust in men.  

More than a few of us have posited that at least part of the reason the girls forgave Josh for molesting them was because their parents would've insisted that the girls tempted him, making it their fault, including Joy who was 5 at the time he assaulted her.  Gothard's teachings are some sick stuff.

Edited October 2, 2019 by doodlebug

[Ohiopirate02]

I wanted to weigh in on Jessa's Instagram post with Henry and Ivy.  Instagram has a policy to delete any photo showing "Uncovered female nipples for children older than toddler-age."  Ivy is a baby, but policies like this are very subjective.  I wouldn't put it past a Duggar hater to flag a post where Ivy's nipple is showing.  I do think the picture was entirely innocent and Henry's hands just happened to cover them.  

[madpsych78]

1 hour ago, doodlebug said:

No, not to put words in her mouth, but I think she was saying that Jessa told Henry to hold his hands over the baby's chest lest her bare baby breasts defraud any men who might see the photo.  Remember, these are the Duggars.  Meechelle chastised Josie for removing a sweater and exposing her bare arms on TV back when she was still preschool age. The Duggars have a very warped view of modesty and their POV is that even children, especially girls, must be covered because they can inspire lust in men.  

More than a few of us have posited that at least part of the reason the girls forgave Josh for molesting them was because their parents would've insisted that the girls tempted him, making it their fault, including Joy who was 5 at the time he assaulted her.  Gothard's teachings are some sick stuff.

See, this makes more sense to me. I do think Henry's hands are where they are on purpose, but not because he's like Smuggar in any way.

[Temperance]

I think the picture is entirely innocent.

However I wouldn't put such a picture on the internet. For one thing pervs (meaning adults on-line, not innocent babies). For another, the kids might go through a phase where they wouldn't want such a photo public. 

[Suzn]

17 minutes ago, Temperance said:

I think the picture is entirely innocent.

However I wouldn't put such a picture on the internet. For one thing pervs (meaning adults on-line, not innocent babies). For another, the kids might go through a phase where they wouldn't want such a photo public. 

I agree that the picture is completely innocent. It is however an uncharacteristically unattractive and awkward pose.  Your eyes are drawn to Henry's hand placement and it is just not appealing.

[Nysha]

These days I would not put a picture of a young child not fully dressed on the Internet because you never know who is going to see it. Even if I have my account private, there's a chance that one of friends/family could repost the picture and someone could see it.

[Aunt Catfish]

5 hours ago, Temperance said:

I think the picture is entirely innocent.

However I wouldn't put such a picture on the internet. For one thing pervs (meaning adults on-line, not innocent babies). For another, the kids might go through a phase where they wouldn't want such a photo public. 

Amen to that.  Henry appears to be naked in the pictures (even though he is probably not) and the posing here is most unfortunate.  A little modesty would be a good thing in this case!  And a heaping helping of discretion.

[DangerousMinds]

Not sharing these pics with millions of complete strangers would be smarter.

[doodlebug]

31 minutes ago, Aunt Catfish said:

Amen to that.  Henry appears to be naked in the pictures (even though he is probably not) and the posing here is most unfortunate.  A little modesty would be a good thing in this case!  And a heaping helping of discretion.

I don't have kids, so it's easy for me to say, but, personally, I think I would post as few photos of my children online as I could.  And every photo would have the kids fully clothed and would only be available to a limited audience of family and friends.  Those cute shots of the baby wearing just a droopy diaper or the little ones playing in a bubble bath can be shared privately, IMO.

Of course, I am not Jessa and have an education and real job to support myself.  In the Duggars' case, selling your kids' private moments to the public online or on TV is how they manage to avoid real work.

[Ohiopirate02]

1 minute ago, doodlebug said:

I don't have kids, so it's easy for me to say, but, personally, I think I would post as few photos of my children online as I could.  And every photo would have the kids fully clothed and would only be available to a limited audience of family and friends.  Those cute shots of the baby wearing just a droopy diaper or the little ones playing in a bubble bath can be shared privately, IMO.

Of course, I am not Jessa and have an education and real job to support myself.  In the Duggars' case, selling your kids' private moments to the public online or on TV is how they manage to avoid real work.

My sister uses her Instagram stories to post pictures of her kids that should not be shared with everyone.   Those disappear after 24 hours which lessens their reach.  I only post pics of her kids when I am with them and she is aware that they can be shared.  I wanted to post a pic of my sassy neice last week on here, but I'm not her mom.

[Snow Fairy]

But someone can screenshot instagram story, so even those pictures aren't totally safe

[Madtown]

18 hours ago, Zahdii said:

Are you seriously insinuating that a two year old is trying to cop a feel of his 4 month old sisters breasts?

WTF? NO! My goodness, why would I ever think something like that?

18 hours ago, doodlebug said:

No, not to put words in her mouth, but I think she was saying that Jessa told Henry to hold his hands over the baby's chest lest her bare baby breasts defraud any men who might see the photo. 

Yes, this is what I was saying. Which is why I wondered why she would post a picture like this at all. I would never think she would post a picture of Ivy in just a diaper.

[leighdear]

Sorry, the baby still looks like a potato.  Jessa got pretty boys though.  

[galaxychaser]

Jessa got the cutest babies out of all the Duggar’s. I wish she would stop at 3. 

But probably there are 7 more on the way.

[Suzn]

1 hour ago, leighdear said:

Sorry, the baby still looks like a potato.  Jessa got pretty boys though.  

I have hope for Ivy.  Henry wasn't pretty at that age either.

15 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

Jessa got the cutest babies out of all the Duggar’s. I wish she would stop at 3. 

But probably there are 7 more on the way.

I agree! ...unfortunately about  the 7 more,too.

[3 is enough]

As much as I adore my granddaughters I am very hesitant to share photos of them on social media.  I always check with my son or daughter-in-law first and I always make sure they are fully dressed in the photos. The baby is 14 months old and I think I have posted a total of 5 photos of her.

While I find the Duggar's modesty standards to be ridiculous, I would never post a photo of a baby wearing only a diaper.  Kind of surprised at Jessa.

[Churchhoney]

2 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

I would never post a photo of a baby wearing only a diaper.  Kind of surprised at Jessa.

I fear it has to do with their knowing that their claim to fame -- and thus to continued paychecks -- is courtship...weddings! .....and Babeez Babeez Babeez.....

And never thinking much beyond that about anything. 

Edited October 8, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Jynnan tonnix]

17 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I fear it has to do with their knowing that their claim to fame -- and thus to continued paychecks -- is courtship...weddings! .....and Babeez Babeez Babeez.....

And never thinking much beyond that about anything. 

I totally read the "Babeez Babeez Babeez" part of this as some variation on Beelzebub, Beelzebub 🤣

[queenanne]

On 10/1/2019 at 9:18 PM, beagletime said:

In this case I think it's just happens to be the way he's holding her.  Ivy looks like she'd fall over otherwise.  With her upbringing I'm impressed that Jessa let's her kids run around half dressed.  Her children seem happy, cuddled and well loved.

Yeah, I was gonna say, don't young children have a classic history of grabbing onto any bit of a squirmy younger sibling that they can muster to hold them in place?  It is rather inelegant as a pose though... couldn't they be rubbing noses or something similar?

[Minivanessa]

32 minutes ago, Mojitogirl said:

I’ve said this before but Jill is really the sister that has most expanded her world. Jinger might live in LA but she’s still a follower of Jeremy’s whims and interests. Jill has a house to maintain, she’s overwhelmed but she stays home with her kids and does activities with them. They’ve been to the pumpkin patch, the zoo, the library and had play dates with sweet friends, none of which seemed to have been filmed for TLC.  Plus, she wears whatever she wants around her family - have we seen Jinger do it?  I noticed even Abbie is now almost full time wearing skirts.  

I find her annoying (and Derrick more so), but I’m rooting for her to expand her world and her mind so that will trickle down to her children  

Jessa, oddly, has disappeared. Her trickling out of Ivy pictures, few cute family shots, and not going to LA is out of character. However, she has never shown us that she has expanded her or her children’s world as she’s always at at TTC. I hope that emotionally she’s ok since she used to get energy from her public persona. 

I brought this over from the Jill and Derick discussion. 

Very good points about Jessa. Of all the Duggar kids she's seemed the one most devoted to being on TV. She seems to absolutely bloom when she's front and center in front of the TV camera. 

I wonder how much she'll be featured in the new series of Counting On. Maybe she'll get some airtime because, as noted, she really really loves being on camera, vs. some of her sibs who seem to be enduring it and may be harder for the producers to get good footage from. 

Sure, she's had a baby lately. But it was a third, not notable in the Duggar breeding sweepstakes -  while there are *two* SILs expecting their first babies. And I don't know how the show will handle it, but Joy's miscarriage while tragic is more interesting for TV purposes than a young woman having a third child. Not to mention that the Vuolos have moved to HOLLYWOOD!!! Well, LA, which in TV terms is about the same thing. With their adorable baby girl, and they go out to new places and Jeremy's in seminar and hangs out with all these new people.

The competition for airtime this season could be brutal. Sitting around the house in Arkansas, being Queen Bee Jessa Seewald, may not cut it for TV time this season. 

She and Bin haven't traveled, that we know of, or changed 'careers' or developed some new interests. I'm sure that if they had, Jessa would have been discreet enough about them not to wear out their interest before they could be unveiled on the TV show. But the lack of any hints of such things on her social media presence lately, so close to the premiere of the next season, leads me to think they ain't got nothing new except Ivy Spice. And Jessa's second rush to the hospital because of post-delivery bleeding. Which didn't even get a People exclusive, IIRC. 

Edited to add, this is what my Xfinity onscreen guide says about next Tuesday night's season premiere of Counting On, and nothing about this suggests the Seewalds will be featured:

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S10 Ep1: Who's the Most Romantic?

Jinger and Jeremy go house-hunting in Los Angeles; the family goes camping in Arkansas; one couple makes a special announcement.

Edited October 10, 2019 by Jeeves

[MonicaM]

"Queen Bee Jessa Seewald" has been dethroned.  I would say that if anyone is "Queen Bee" these days, it's Jinger, with her photogenic baby, expensively clad husband, and glamorous life in California.  

Meanwhile, despite her assertion that she and Bin are still "madly in love", I suspect things aren't as happy as she would like in the Seewald household.  Yes, they have a new baby, but plenty of couples who are having a rough patch have a baby while also having relationship troubles.  All relationships have ups and downs, and Jessa (and Bin) may not understand that it is normal for passions to cool and for feelings and roles to change as time goes by.  

Jessa and Bin had no real foundation when they married and opened the baby factory.  They barely knew each other.  Jessa saw herself as the most desirable Duggar daughter, and I think Bin fell for that facade.  Now he's discovering much of the Jessa allure was just that - a facade.  Just my opinion, of course.

[libgirl2]

5 minutes ago, MonicaM said:

Jessa and Bin had no real foundation when they married and opened the baby factory.  They barely knew each other.  Jessa saw herself as the most desirable Duggar daughter, and I think Bin fell for that facade.  Now he's discovering much of the Jessa allure was just that - a facade.  Just my opinion, of course.

And didn't they court the longest of all the married couples? 

[BitterApple]

30 minutes ago, MonicaM said:

"Queen Bee Jessa Seewald" has been dethroned.  I would say that if anyone is "Queen Bee" these days, it's Jinger, with her photogenic baby, expensively clad husband, and glamorous life in California.  

Meanwhile, despite her assertion that she and Bin are still "madly in love", I suspect things aren't as happy as she would like in the Seewald household.  Yes, they have a new baby, but plenty of couples who are having a rough patch have a baby while also having relationship troubles.  All relationships have ups and downs, and Jessa (and Bin) may not understand that it is normal for passions to cool and for feelings and roles to change as time goes by.  

Jessa and Bin had no real foundation when they married and opened the baby factory.  They barely knew each other.  Jessa saw herself as the most desirable Duggar daughter, and I think Bin fell for that facade.  Now he's discovering much of the Jessa allure was just that - a facade.  Just my opinion, of course.

I don't think they are either. It wouldn't surprise me if Bin is starting to realize he pissed his youth away for the sake of banging the "hot" Duggar daughter and is starting to show some frustration. Even if he's working for Boob, that's not a real career, especially in comparison to his sisters. As for Jessa, everything that gave her a competitive edge is gone. Her looks have faded, Jinger's got the cutest baby, Jill's husband is in law school, Joy's husband has his own business etc. She's the type who needs to lord her superiority over others and she's got nothing to work with. 

[Tasya]

I've said this before but Jessa has plenty to market. Her boys are SUPER cute. Like way above average cute. They also seem polite and reasonably well-spoken. If she had any sense at all and she was really concerned about staying relevant, she would be developing those boys as kiddie models/spokesbabies. They would definitely get picked up. 

The fact that she doesn't "sell" them more, makes me believe that Jessa is right where she wants to be. Maybe she simply has little to no ambition/drive and she can't be bothered to be more than what she is. 

[Minivanessa]

6 minutes ago, Tasya said:

The fact that she doesn't "sell" them more, makes me believe that Jessa is right where she wants to be. Maybe she simply has little to no ambition/drive and she can't be bothered to be more than what she is. 

Let's hope that's true and she's not unhappy. She certainly adored her time on TV. Maybe she's over it. This is the biggest photo on the main show page on the TLC website, and look who's not there:

Edited to add: She did get two episodes - 19 minutes total - about Ivy's birth, on tlc.com, so there's that:

Edited October 10, 2019 by Jeeves