Popular Post goofygirl October 13, 2021 Popular Post Share October 13, 2021 14 hours ago, nexxie said: She got a raise for her poor-me act. 🙄 https://okmagazine.com/p/erika-jayne-600000-season-11-rhobh-salary-legal-troubles-tom-girardi-fraud/ The blonde bombshell reportedly pulled in $600,000 for the controversial season that focused heavily on her and ex Tom Girardi’s alleged involvement in an embezzlement scheme, reported Radar. Sources spilled mega-producer Andy Cohen gave the singer a raise as her personal life began dominating headlines. THIS is the reason I won't be tuning in to the next season! I'll just have to read about the eps here! I refuse to watch her ass anymore. 27 Link to comment
Dixie Sugarbaker October 13, 2021 Share October 13, 2021 I just realized that the only times I have liked Erika or anything she had to say, it was in her confessionals. When she interacts with others, she is pretty boring and bland except when she is losing her temper and acting ratchet. If she doesn’t know what to say, she acts cold and condescending, which intimidates others. But, in her confessionals, she is often witty and Entertaining. This has led me to believe that her confessionals are scripted by someone other than her. I bet some of that stolen money went to a writer to script her confessional zingers, because I am pretty sure those lines did not come from her. 8 3 4 Link to comment
RoseAllDay October 13, 2021 Share October 13, 2021 14 hours ago, Stats Queen said: Bravo really has a great way of misreading their audience. People are tuning in to watch her downfall and in shock of what a horrible human being she is. We don’t want to watch when she has no consequences for all her actions, which is what Bravo is giving them for rewarding her with another season. As another poster said, if she gets that raise, hopefully she will have it all garnished. Erika was not popular like Teresa Guidice was (which I don’t understand personally). Maybe one of the lawyers here can clarify, but I think the court can stipulate that her wages (all? a certain percentage?) be garnished to pay back the stolen money. That makes what Andy and Bravo did even more disgusting. This chick is NOT a charity case; she is NOT innocent here; and she deserves financial help from NO ONE. She benefitted from literal pain and suffering for years. High time she felt some of that as well. Talk about rewarding bad behavior… 17 Link to comment
hoodooznoodooz October 13, 2021 Share October 13, 2021 A New Yorker cartoon: Thanks, I knew I could count on you to turn my problem into something way worse that happened to you. 7 5 Link to comment
Popular Post nexxie October 13, 2021 Popular Post Share October 13, 2021 18 hours ago, goofygirl said: THIS is the reason I won't be tuning in to the next season! I'll just have to read about the eps here! I refuse to watch her ass anymore. I won’t watch next season if Erika returns either - only tuned in this season to see how her case was handled by the cast. But it’s been sickening to watch the cowards suck up to a raving bully and fail to support those who dared to question. Bravo and Andy should save their money to buy a few clues. 27 Link to comment
RoseAllDay October 13, 2021 Share October 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, nexxie said: I won’t watch next season if Erika returns either - only tuned in this season to see how her case was handled by the cast. But it’s been sickening to watch the cowards suck up to a raving bully and fail to support those who dared to question. Bravo and Andy should save their money to buy a few clues. It’s sad, but I’m looking forward to watching the reunion like I’d look forward to a root canal. I’m undecided if I’ll gut it out, or watch it later. Tells me all I need to know. Andy, you are killing this network with this kind of crap. 9 Link to comment
Popular Post Slakkie October 13, 2021 Popular Post Share October 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, RoseAllDay said: It’s sad, but I’m looking forward to watching the reunion like I’d look forward to a root canal. I’m undecided if I’ll gut it out, or watch it later. Tells me all I need to know. Andy, you are killing this network with this kind of crap. I will not watch next season like I stopped NY. Neither are entertaining and at this point Erika is literally making money off of widows and orphans as is Bravo Bravo Fucking Bravo and I am out. 25 Link to comment
tranquilidade October 13, 2021 Share October 13, 2021 If a bad attitude can get you a place in hell she is at the front of the line. 15 Link to comment
SimonSeymour October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 (edited) On 10/13/2021 at 9:38 AM, RoseAllDay said: Maybe one of the lawyers here can clarify, but I think the court can stipulate that her wages (all? a certain percentage?) be garnished to pay back the stolen money. That makes what Andy and Bravo did even more disgusting. This chick is NOT a charity case; she is NOT innocent here; and she deserves financial help from NO ONE. She benefitted from literal pain and suffering for years. High time she felt some of that as well. Talk about rewarding bad behavior… I believe that the max amount of garnishment per paycheck is 25% of the person’s disposable income, so 25% of what’s left after taxes, etc. Edited October 20, 2021 by SimonSeymour 12 Link to comment
Ms Blue Jay October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Slakkie said: I will not watch next season like I stopped NY. Neither are entertaining and at this point Erika is literally making money off of widows and orphans as is Bravo Bravo Fucking Bravo and I am out. EXACTLY! THEY'RE PROFITING OFF OF THOSE VICTIMS' STORIES AND WHAT ERIKA DID TO THEM! IT'S DISGUSTING! IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE! Edited October 14, 2021 by Ms Blue Jay 17 Link to comment
Kiss my mutt October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 If Bravo paid her salary directly to the victims I might watch, otherwise, no can do. 21 Link to comment
WhatAmIWatching October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Kiss my mutt said: If Bravo paid her salary directly to the victims I might watch, otherwise, no can do. I believe this is the end for me as well. I can't stomach it any more, and don't want to be part of putting money in her pocket and supporting her massive, misplaced ego. I will read here, but then I enjoy the hilarious comments, different perspectives, and beautiful snark here more than I usually enjoy the show! 24 Link to comment
AntAnn October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, WhatAmIWatching said: I will read here, but then I enjoy the hilarious comments, different perspectives, and beautiful snark here more than I usually enjoy the show! Same here. 👆 I think they’re all acting. It’s like a soap and I quit those in the 80’s. Y’all are much more clever and entertaining 💋 Edited October 14, 2021 by AntAnn More wine, lol 😝 13 Link to comment
Popular Post RoseAllDay October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share October 14, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, WhatAmIWatching said: I believe this is the end for me as well. I can't stomach it any more, and don't want to be part of putting money in her pocket and supporting her massive, misplaced ego. I will read here, but then I enjoy the hilarious comments, different perspectives, and beautiful snark here more than I usually enjoy the show! I didn’t watch the reunion last night. Had a hard day at work dealing with difficult people, so the last thing I wanted was to watch yet another difficult person on my TV. I really used to like Bravo. But a lot of the Housewives franchises have taken on a meanness that I don’t find entertaining. How it must hurt the Girardis’ victims knowing that a main source of their pain is still on TV, being disgusting, and getting a (now larger) paycheck, while they fight to get a shred of what’s rightfully theirs. Edited October 14, 2021 by RoseAllDay 25 Link to comment
Maximona October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 I'm sure this has been referenced, but since Bravo's B-roll has been subpoenaed, I'm fairly sure the network will do an in-depth cost/benefit analysis to determine whether they'll invite Erika back next season. Sure, her presence boosted ratings. (I, for one, tuned in to see the train wreck!). But gaathering together all those editing room floor snips has gotta be a lot of aggravation. https://pagesix.com/2021/10/12/bravo-subpoenaed-for-unaired-rhobh-footage-of-erika-jayne/ 11 Link to comment
emma675 October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 I was wondering today about the timing of things--do any of the suits against Erika (or that she's named in) have court dates at this point and what is the timing of when Bravo begins filming the new season? I was wondering if Erika would be found guilty on any of those suits (or liable? I'm not an attorney, lol) before the filming starts. 6 Link to comment
emmawoodhouse October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 10 hours ago, RoseAllDay said: I didn’t watch the reunion last night. Had a hard day at work dealing with difficult people, so the last thing I wanted was to watch yet another difficult person on my TV. I really used to like Bravo. But a lot of the Housewives franchises have taken on a meanness that I don’t find entertaining. How it must hurt the Girardis’ victims knowing that a main source of their pain is still on TV, being disgusting, and getting a (now larger) paycheck, while they fight to get a shred of what’s rightfully theirs. But according to Erika, the victims are "alleged." As I said in the episode thread, fuck her. 19 Link to comment
nexxie October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 https://pagesix.com/2021/10/14/sutton-stracke-erika-jayne-made-second-threat-that-fans-didnt-hear/ So Andy got Sutton to repeat a second threat Erika made under her breath - that part of the reunion will be interesting. 7 3 Link to comment
izabella October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 2 hours ago, emma675 said: I was wondering today about the timing of things--do any of the suits against Erika (or that she's named in) have court dates at this point and what is the timing of when Bravo begins filming the new season? I was wondering if Erika would be found guilty on any of those suits (or liable? I'm not an attorney, lol) before the filming starts. Bravo has already started the new season, according to the Media thread. They want to cash in on Erika's infamy. I don't know when anything is happening with the legal stuff. 3 Link to comment
Popular Post RealHousewife October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share October 14, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said: But according to Erika, the victims are "alleged." As I said in the episode thread, fuck her. She's so dismissive of the victims even after all the backlash and time to practice damage control and pretending to care. She's basically like "How could people think I'm cold and have no empathy? It's possible Tom allegedly stole from some alleged orphans and alleged widows, and allegedly they are owed money. I do too care about these alleged victims!" In her mind she's the true victim because she can no longer live like a billionaire's wife. She makes a lot more money than most Americans, lives in a beautiful home, drives a nice car, but poor Erika who was spending $40,000 on glam each month and all the botox and plastic surgery in the world while her husband stole from a young man who lost his girlfriend in a fire and was burned over 90% of his body. Doesn't he know his body doesn't matter the way Erika's does? I get that Erika hasn't been charged with a crime. I'm not a legal expert. I like to think it's possible she wasn't aware of just how disgustingly criminal her husband is. But even if she didn't know Tom was stealing, I'm still grossed out by her. I've thought for years now her give no fucks schtick was utter bullshit, but in the case of the victims, it's sadly true. She gives no fucks. Edited October 15, 2021 by RealHousewife 32 Link to comment
Raiderred October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 On 10/12/2021 at 7:17 AM, nexxie said: Sources spilled mega-producer Andy Cohen gave the singer a raise as her personal life began dominating headlines. We need a "vomit" emoji! 13 Link to comment
RealHousewife October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Raiderred said: We need a "vomit" emoji! 🤮 6 Link to comment
Raiderred October 14, 2021 Share October 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, RealHousewife said: 🤮 Excellent! 3 Link to comment
endure October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 I hope she ends up having to support poor old Tom in his care home if they don't throw him in the slammer ha ha.. https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/rhobhs-erika-jayne-tom-girardis-divorce-everything-we-know/new-representation/ 8 Link to comment
Jextella October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 4 hours ago, Raiderred said: We need a "vomit" emoji! Andy has ALWAYS supported Erika. He's doing is sordid job of making sure there is dirty laundry hanging out to dry. Or, maybe he really likes her as a person. Seems many do like her. Even Sutton said she liked her months ago on WWHL (that may have changed, though). 6 Link to comment
endure October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jextella said: Andy has ALWAYS supported Erika. He's doing is sordid job of making sure there is dirty laundry hanging out to dry. Or, maybe he really likes her as a person. Seems many do like her. Even Sutton said she liked her months ago on WWHL (that may have changed, though). But she's SO unlikeable 🤮 Who cares who Andy likes and Erika is being advised by her legal team closely, and who knows.... maybe even Tom. Didn't she say at one point in the show she talks to him all the time, honestly I'm losing track with her 🙄 14 Link to comment
Popular Post bosawks October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share October 15, 2021 I'm disappointed none of the other HoWives are taking advantage of her "allegedly". I'd be throwing that word around all the time. "Erika looks great." Allegedly. "Erika looked she was having a great time at the Dodger game." Allegedly. "Did Erika take the last croissant." Allegedly. Missed opportunity, I think. 26 3 Link to comment
Popular Post hoodooznoodooz October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share October 15, 2021 Erika was married to Tom Girardi. Allegedly. 26 1 Link to comment
LemonSoda October 15, 2021 Share October 15, 2021 (edited) On 10/13/2021 at 6:42 AM, Dixie Sugarbaker said: I just realized that the only times I have liked Erika or anything she had to say, it was in her confessionals. When she interacts with others, she is pretty boring and bland except when she is losing her temper and acting ratchet. If she doesn’t know what to say, she acts cold and condescending, which intimidates others. But, in her confessionals, she is often witty and Entertaining. This has led me to believe that her confessionals are scripted by someone other than her. I bet some of that stolen money went to a writer to script her confessional zingers, because I am pretty sure those lines did not come from her. I wouldn’t doubt that. A writer/helper/witty friend. A good friend of mine loved a podcaster’s humor and wit. She met her and found her to be bland in person. After some chatter she found out that most of the podcast was written by someone else. Yeah, all that wit that sounded so natural was a script. Erika came off semi snarky in her book but I don’t think it’s true humor, I think she mocks others and things as a defense mechanism. Edited October 16, 2021 by LemonSoda 5 9 Link to comment
jennifersdc1 October 17, 2021 Share October 17, 2021 (edited) On 10/13/2021 at 9:42 AM, Dixie Sugarbaker said: I just realized that the only times I have liked Erika or anything she had to say, it was in her confessionals. When she interacts with others, she is pretty boring and bland except when she is losing her temper and acting ratchet. If she doesn’t know what to say, she acts cold and condescending, which intimidates others. But, in her confessionals, she is often witty and Entertaining. This has led me to believe that her confessionals are scripted by someone other than her. I bet some of that stolen money went to a writer to script her confessional zingers, because I am pretty sure those lines did not come from her. Absolutely agree 100% (see Teresa Guidice re scripted “confessionals’). You put it much more succinctly and eloquently than I (see ratchet). It would likely take me at least three paragraphs to say pretty much say the same thing. Thank Sweet Baby Jesus we have Bosawks for the one liners. Edited October 18, 2021 by jennifersdc1 Very minor 10 Link to comment
Mindthinkr October 17, 2021 Share October 17, 2021 Erika has already moved on to a new guy that owns a casino (South Point Hotel and Casino) in Las Vegas. Michael Gaughan. Things don’t appear to be going well with him either if the gossip it to be believed. I do think she’s a cold fish. If he was smart he’d dump her before his bank account gets drained. https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/10/blind-item-3_14.html 7 2 Link to comment
Baltimore Betty October 17, 2021 Share October 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said: Erika has already moved on to a new guy that owns a casino (South Point Hotel and Casino) in Las Vegas. Michael Gaughan. Things don’t appear to be going well with him either if the gossip it to be believed. I do think she’s a cold fish. If he was smart he’d dump her before his bank account gets drained. https://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2021/10/blind-item-3_14.html Gosh, a guy with a casino...she should be nice to him, he has a showroom and Erika Jayne could perform there! 12 2 Link to comment
MsTree October 18, 2021 Share October 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Mindthinkr said: Erika has already moved on to a new guy that owns a casino (South Point Hotel and Casino) in Las Vegas. Michael Gaughan. Unless I missed it, the blind item didn't mention Gaughan. Just curious if you have another link. Last week it was Steve Wynn, now Gaughan. Guess she's going to go through every casino mogul until something sticks. Hopefully they all get wise to her machinations. 7 Link to comment
Mindthinkr October 18, 2021 Share October 18, 2021 I couldn’t get a link to post, but it came from this. 5 1 3 Link to comment
Baltimore Betty October 18, 2021 Share October 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said: I couldn’t get a link to post, but it came from this. Well, Erika has a type now doesn't she! 14 2 Link to comment
Mindthinkr October 18, 2021 Share October 18, 2021 Yes…rich and ready to pay a lot for whatever dull sex she is offering. I wonder that she hasn’t turned into a dominatrix. She has the personality for it. Somehow I don’t see these over 80 men as sexually vibrant men. 4 14 Link to comment
RealHousewife October 18, 2021 Share October 18, 2021 We all know Erika's been accustomed to an extremely OTT lifestyle. Wealthy men around her own age have their choice of beautiful women and don't need to settle for one with Erika's attitude and problems. The geriatric bunch of rich men are her only chance. There are only so many women who look like Erika willing to be with them too. 13 Link to comment
Kiss my mutt October 18, 2021 Share October 18, 2021 I’m sure his kids are just thrilled! 15 Link to comment
Chicklet October 18, 2021 Share October 18, 2021 Erm, thought she just wanted some BIG D#CK? Or so she says, she meant "big bank account" but that didn't sound so sexy. 1 15 Link to comment
bosawks October 19, 2021 Share October 19, 2021 On 10/17/2021 at 4:41 PM, jennifersdc1 said: Thank Sweet Baby Jesus we have Bosawks for the one liners. Allegedly…… 17 Link to comment
ChelleGame October 19, 2021 Share October 19, 2021 15 hours ago, Mindthinkr said: dull sex I am cackling at that description. Too funny. 3 4 Link to comment
RoseAllDay October 19, 2021 Share October 19, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 8:23 AM, Mindthinkr said: I couldn’t get a link to post, but it came from this. Erika Jayne — super predator of super rich old men. Remember this post, folks, when she whines and cries about being a poor soon-to-be divorcee with no support. Broke, my ass. How much of a raise did Andy give her, again? I wonder if she’s still sticking by Tom’s side, because he’s such a good man who deserves to be cared for…or whatever-the-hell it was she said when trying to make it sound like he wasn’t the cruel SOB that she made him out to be. Never have I wanted to see any human being hoisted high on her own petard. Nothing would warm my heart more than seeing her have to turn over all her gold-digging assets to those who really deserve it — no allegedly about it. Mr. Gaughan, although I know you’ve probably seen a lot in your career with casinos, I have one piece of advice — run like hell. 10 Link to comment
politichick October 20, 2021 Share October 20, 2021 14 hours ago, RoseAllDay said: Erika Jayne — super predator of super rich old men. Remember this post, folks, when she whines and cries about being a poor soon-to-be divorcee with no support. Broke, my ass. How much of a raise did Andy give her, again? I wonder if she’s still sticking by Tom’s side, because he’s such a good man who deserves to be cared for…or whatever-the-hell it was she said when trying to make it sound like he wasn’t the cruel SOB that she made him out to be. Never have I wanted to see any human being hoisted high on her own petard. Nothing would warm my heart more than seeing her have to turn over all her gold-digging assets to those who really deserve it — no allegedly about it. Mr. Gaughan, although I know you’ve probably seen a lot in your career with casinos, I have one piece of advice — run like hell. Super predator sums her up nicely and he probably can't even see his penis. No offense, but how attracted to him do we think she really is? And why is she running around town looking like a slob in sweats all of the time? Mind you, the shopkeepers/workers in Boston where I've been social distancing since the start of the pandemic while continuing to pay rent in WDC and being separated from my wardrobe since March 2020 may be wondering why my wardrobe is so very limited since I brought very few things with me not anticipating the length of my stay by a very long shot, Who does she think she's fooling? 6 Link to comment
nexxie October 20, 2021 Share October 20, 2021 Forgive me for imagining how Erika might negotiate her new “relationship.” Rich male ig customer: Give me a private show and I’ll take care of those mean ol’ bills sweetheart. Erika: Shut the fuck up. I’m not anybody’s sweetheart. You give me the cash wrapped around a piece of jewelry - a good piece of jewelry. I’ll use the strap-on - with gloves. Don’t even think about touching me. 9 1 Link to comment
Door County Cherry October 20, 2021 Share October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, nexxie said: Rich male ig customer: Give me a private show and I’ll take care of those mean ol’ bills sweetheart. Erika: Shut the fuck up. I’m not anybody’s sweetheart. You give me the cash wrapped around a piece of jewelry - a good piece of jewelry. I’ll use the strap-on - with gloves. Don’t even think about touching me. Make no mistake, there are a lot of rich men who would pay up the wazoo to get exactly this kind of treatment. It'd be a feature not a bug. 6 Link to comment
GreenlinetoHarlem October 20, 2021 Share October 20, 2021 Well, prayers up that she will land some gazillionaire that will compensate all the victims, even if it's just for PR purposes. 7 Link to comment
charliesan October 20, 2021 Share October 20, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 10:03 PM, Jextella said: Andy has ALWAYS supported Erika. He's doing is sordid job of making sure there is dirty laundry hanging out to dry. Or, maybe he really likes her as a person. Seems many do like her. Even Sutton said she liked her months ago on WWHL (that may have changed, though) Andy only likes himself, but I do think he has supported Erika, up until the reunion if that teaser was any indication. I think Andy maneuvered the women a tiny bit better in the early years, you could tell he had his favorites but now it's easy to know who he prefers and who he dislikes, and not just with Erika and BH. I remember he adored Caroline Manzo and I think that had she stayed they would've sacked Teresa. Obviously not now but he was always up Nene's ass as well as Bethenny and LVP. I think it's time for him to go, at least as a host of the reunions and that dreadful WWHL. Only high executives could overturn the current casts, I know scandals sell but by insisting on hiring criminals, women who actually have money and class would never dare to align themselves with these shows, I think Sutton is an anomaly and Heather Dubrow only returned once Kelly Dodd was out. 2 hours ago, Door County Cherry said: Make no mistake, there are a lot of rich men who would pay up the wazoo to get exactly this kind of treatment. It'd be a feature not a bug. I'm sure Erika would do ANYTHING to land a sugar daddy, or maybe the rumors are true and she did just that, however, those kinds of arrangements never work in the long term and she should know that by now. Instead of her music career she should invest in formal education like Sutton, I'd also say that she could use that money to compensate the victims but we all know she'd rather use the alleged strap-on on herself than give the money away. 8 Link to comment
Julyolo October 20, 2021 Share October 20, 2021 It is clear now neither Bravo or Andy will sacrifice the ratings they get from showing Erika to occupy any sort of moral or ethical ground. The only thing left to see is more posturing per her and her castmates. Like other posters have decided, I just can't participate in this anymore as a viewer......gonna vote with my remote! See you in the forums. 11 Link to comment
LemonSoda October 20, 2021 Share October 20, 2021 3 hours ago, charliesan said: I'm sure Erika would do ANYTHING to land a sugar daddy, or maybe the rumors are true and she did just that, however, those kinds of arrangements never work in the long term and she should know that by now. Instead of her music career she should invest in formal education like Sutton, I'd also say that she could use that money to compensate the victims but we all know she'd rather use the alleged strap-on on herself than give the money away. I don’t think Tom was her first older rich guy. I think he was the first to take her seriously long term, invite her in to his life. It’s really sad that Erika never did anything to secure something more long-lasting for herself with the many, many social contacts she made over the years while circling with Los Angeles’ elite. But the fact is Erika wanted to be a star. She deeply needs that attention. 4 Link to comment
eleanorofaquitaine October 20, 2021 Share October 20, 2021 On 10/19/2021 at 8:59 AM, RoseAllDay said: Erika Jayne — super predator of super rich old men. Remember this post, folks, when she whines and cries about being a poor soon-to-be divorcee with no support. Broke, my ass. How much of a raise did Andy give her, again? I wonder if she’s still sticking by Tom’s side, because he’s such a good man who deserves to be cared for…or whatever-the-hell it was she said when trying to make it sound like he wasn’t the cruel SOB that she made him out to be. Never have I wanted to see any human being hoisted high on her own petard. Nothing would warm my heart more than seeing her have to turn over all her gold-digging assets to those who really deserve it — no allegedly about it. Mr. Gaughan, although I know you’ve probably seen a lot in your career with casinos, I have one piece of advice — run like hell. So here's my thing - I think Erika is a horrible person. But "super predator"? No. These men aren't innocent babes in the woods. And it's not like Erika's troubles haven't been splashed all over news media, including very mainstream news sources like the LA Times and the New York Times. Any man who gets involved with her should know what he is getting and is making a choice. And that's on them, not on Erika. So no, I don't think that she's a super predator because I don't think that these men are prey. 19 Link to comment
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