S06.E01: Life's A Pitch

[Wings]

Yolanda was just another Hollywood trophy wife for David Foster. Maybe she realized that quickly after marrying him.

 

David Foster wants a sexy, young (healthy) woman on his arm at social functions and to show off. He doesn't want, or need a wife. David needs a beautiful woman to exhibit to others, one that stays home and entertains her rich friends while he's off traveling most of his time. He doesn't want his wife to question him about where he is or what he's doing.  He will always have a wife to conceal his philandering lifestyle and to feed his narcissistic needs. I don't think David Foster will be a bachelor for very long.

 

 

I came here to post just this.  We will see a new wife on his arm within a year.  

[AuntiePam]

Kyle, she tells Mauricio that it's easier being around Kim when Kim's not in denial about her drinking.  So why not take a step toward reconciliation when she's in rehab?  A phone call, a text, flowers, a card, a small gift.  Let her know you're thinking about her.  Or just give up on the relationship.  "Blood is thicker than water" -- that saying never made any sense.  The relationship is toxic to both of them, just let it go.

 

I haven't watched for a couple of years but I liked this first episode.  I especially liked Lisa R's comment about makeup and hair as armor.  Has she ever been shown without it?  I'd like to see her real face. 

[Giselle]

this is the first time I actually got a good laugh about this episode. I agree about Lisa R's heavily supplemented lips and yes, they're similar to a shiny butt-hole, but even more like the back end of a female chimp in estrus. I like Lisa R when I'm only hearing her voice and not watching her.

"back end of a female chimp in estrus"....

 

 

Oh God!  HumblePi you win the internet today with that one!

[WireWrap]

Kyle, she tells Mauricio that it's easier being around Kim when Kim's not in denial about her drinking.  So why not take a step toward reconciliation when she's in rehab?  A phone call, a text, flowers, a card, a small gift.  Let her know you're thinking about her.  Or just give up on the relationship.  "Blood is thicker than water" -- that saying never made any sense.  The relationship is toxic to both of them, just let it go.

 

I haven't watched for a couple of years but I liked this first episode.  I especially liked Lisa R's comment about makeup and hair as armor.  Has she ever been shown without it?  I'd like to see her real face. 

I think that it has been difficult for Kyle, who always comes to Kim's rescue, to back off and let others clean up Kim's mess this time. She needed to back off and finially did but was not easy for her to do it and that is what they were talking about. IMO, Kyle has always made the first move and she apologizes to Kim, NOT the other way around. Also, she can't fully/completly walk away from Kim because she, Kyle, is close to her nieces/nephew and realizes that although they are now adults, the still need her, Kyle's, stability in their lives IMO.

[Giselle]

My two cents : Yo, due to the huge amount of antibiotics she's taken, is now "infested"/"colonized" by candida albicans (I had that problem too and, before I found what it was -and that has been later confirmed by diverse analysis), my doctor tested me for Lyme, because a lot of symptoms are the same !

 

 

Not a Dr. and not saying she didn't/does have LD but just googling "candida albicans" led to "Invasive candidiasis"  makes me think you are on to something. With the way she diets, her medications both self prescribed OTC's and those that are doctor provided, plus all the medical quackery she has put her body through her immune system is more than likely compromised. The medical profession is just like a kitchen too many cooks can spoil the pot, and we know Yolanda loves to doctor/ diagnosis/treatment shop. 

 

Checked the CDC site and a few others...very interesting.

 

"Invasive candidiasis is an infection caused by a yeast (a type of fungus) called Candida.  Unlike Candida infections in the mouth and throat (also called “thrush”) or vaginal “yeast infections,” invasive candidiasis is a serious infection that can affect the blood, heart, brain, eyes, bones, and other parts of the body. Candidemia, a bloodstream infection with Candida, is a common infection in hospitalized patients." http://www.cdc.gov/fungal/diseases/candidiasis/invasive/index.html

 

Other sites:

"Intravenous (IV) catheters and other medical equipment contaminated with Candida species can also cause invasive candidiasis."

(we've seen her have a multitude of those)

 

"headaches and fatigue to abdominal pain and depression."

 

"Candida Albicans is an opportunistic fungus (or form of yeast) that is the cause of many undesirable symptoms ranging from fatigue and weight gain, to joint pain and gas."

 

 

 I'm not a doctor but this is interesting.

Edited December 3, 2015 by Giselle

[breezy424]

Since the First Looks thread is locked for now, I'm posting this here.  There are three preview clips up on the Bravo site.  I'm biting my tongue on one of them since there's no place open here to talk about it:

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills

Edited December 3, 2015 by breezy424

[Almost 3000]

Yeah, I dunno. It's plausible she could be wrong about her kids but right about everything else. I would say that just because she's wrong about one thing, it doesn't mean that she wrong about everything. The issue with her kids, and the timeline in which their Lyme presented, is the only thing that doesn't fit in with eveything I've researched/know about Lyme. But I'm no expert. So I dunno.

Correct me if I'm wrong on the timeline thing but didn't the announcement that her kids have it come around the time that Yo was having implant silicon surgery. She wants to be the face of LD and the implant problem pulled focus so she tossed the kids LD out to the media to put the spotlight back on Yo and her LD.

[FozzyBear]

Amen. I find Vyle to be one of THE most boring, lame, and unimaginative people on the face of the planet. She sure loves barking up about her sister, though. Let it go. You're boring enough without barking up about that idiocy with your sister. Sheesh. Zzzz.

Honestly though, if Kyle didn't have Richards family drama to fall back on what would she talk about? She's basically boring and not terribly bright. Without Kim we're left with her giving shocked/concerned face during lunch with Lisa. i guess she could try to go mean girl with Taylor again (I could have sworn I saw Taylor in the previews). She basically has 3 speeds: High school mean girl, put upon sister, boring housewife. I choose none of the above.

[SCS]

Kyle, she tells Mauricio that it's easier being around Kim when Kim's not in denial about her drinking.  So why not take a step toward reconciliation when she's in rehab?  A phone call, a text, flowers, a card, a small gift.  Let her know you're thinking about her.  Or just give up on the relationship.  "Blood is thicker than water" -- that saying never made any sense.  The relationship is toxic to both of them, just let it go.

 

 

ITA but Kyle gets a tremendous amount of mileage out of the status quo. Despite what she spouts (endlessly and always on camera or in print) we've no way of really knowing if the little teapot truly wants Kim sober.

[EVS]

Moved to Yolanda's thread

Edited December 3, 2015 by EVS

[hottesthw]

Remember how Yo was so fragile she couldn't sit through a reunion that was centered around the horrific behavior of her chief ally in the cast? And the subsequent reports that she was so delicate she would only participate as a cameo guest star in season 6 if at all? I'd just like to point out that both original full-time cast additions (Angie and Erika) are being introduced as her friends. For that to make any narrative sense, she had to have intended to remain full-time all along.

I don't know, I cut her a bit of slack here. Sitting in your home while filming and hearing 2nd hand about awful things her friend was doing is different than sitting on a couch, where she knows damn well those women go nuts, and trying to defend that friend. All while being ill. While filming Yo did try to confront Brandi and others about all the shit that was going on but it was more in a one on one setting. And in Amsterdam when they started getting nuts she did get up and leave the table. So maybe she knows her limits with her illness and knows how much she can take. I for one would not have been entertained if she did stay at the reunion and got attacked by everyone. She's clearly ill to some extent. And while it's her choice to be filmed, I'll give her a slight pass on not sticking around to get messy with the rest of them.

[hottesthw]

I'm not sure what Yolanda's motives are for continuing with the show, but I definitely don't doubt her illness. Yolanda has actually appeared on the show makeup-free before and looked quite beautiful. So it's not the fact that she showed up at the dinner without makeup, it's the fact that she looked ghastly doing it that's significant. Had she been healthy and makeup-free, I'm sure everyone would have thought she looked great.

I agree completely. Out of all of them Yo is the most understated of the bunch. While the others stress over gowns and updos, she shows up in killer white jeans and slicked back hair. She never flashed the spider eyes like Lisa V or dark eyeshadow like Lisa R, so it's odd to hear them talk about her like she showed up in jammies. She looked sick. Plain and simple IMO. Now imagine Vanderpump showing up at an event sans face spackle. Now THAT is something to talk about.

[WireWrap]

Correct me if I'm wrong on the timeline thing but didn't the announcement that her kids have it come around the time that Yo was having implant silicon surgery. She wants to be the face of LD and the implant problem pulled focus so she tossed the kids LD out to the media to put the spotlight back on Yo and her LD.

She had the leaky silicone implant removed and the areas effected cleaned up in Aug. then started tweeting about how fast she was recovering/getting better THEN she went to the LD awards and announced BOTH Bella and Anwar had NLD and have had it as long as she has. Yes, I do think she made that announcement to keep the focus on herself, she was loosing the long suffering title and had to do something to keep that attention on her.

[notnowimbusy]

Since the First Looks thread is locked for now, I'm posting this here.  There are three preview clips up on the Bravo site.  I'm biting my tongue on one of them since there's no place open here to talk about it:

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills

OMG I know what you mean.  No place to discuss it, but Yolanda. .. hmmmmmm.

[Giselle]

On a different note...watched the episode again...still have the same opinion as previously posted...but...was  that a nude painting of Lisa on the wall? You see it when she and Rosita go to the window to check out the baseball player.

[WireWrap]

I agree completely. Out of all of them Yo is the most understated of the bunch. While the others stress over gowns and updos, she shows up in killer white jeans and slicked back hair. She never flashed the spider eyes like Lisa V or dark eyeshadow like Lisa R, so it's odd to hear them talk about her like she showed up in jammies. She looked sick. Plain and simple IMO. Now imagine Vanderpump showing up at an event sans face spackle. Now THAT is something to talk about.

BUT that is what they all said....that she looked sick and that this was the first time they had seen her look like that because she always put makeup on and that they were suprised she didn't put it on this time. Nothing more.

[Lisin]

So, the whole CLD/Yes/No/Munchhausen syndrome/Faking it/Leaky Boobs/etc. discussion is more suited for the Yolanda topic, let's leave the episode topics for discussion of the events in the actual episode.

 

We know it's a hot topic and likely to be discussed all season, and we also know it did come up in the episode, and likely will continue to do so, however it derails discussion of actual events from the episode if every time CLD etc. is mentioned we all stop talking about anything else to analyze YoFo's treatment plan.

 

So, asking nicely, can we please leave the majority of the Yolanda's sick talk for her thread and keep the episode threads for discussing the episode's events? Thanks!! 

[Giselle]

 

edited: moved to Yolanda thread.

Edited December 3, 2015 by Giselle

[ryebread]

On a different note...watched the episode again...still have the same opinion as previously posted...but...was  that a nude painting of Lisa on the wall? You see it when she and Rosita go to the window to check out the baseball player.

 

Yes.  It was on the wall at the old house, too.

[link417]

On the bright side, I caught a glimpse of Camille in the season preview. Yay!!!! I wish she would have come back full time. Her little appearances here and there aren't enough to satisfy me. I need her house and clothes porn. Camille always delivers on that front. Happy to see Adrienne will make an appearance as well.

Same here, especially on the Camille front! Couldn't stand her on her first season and fell in love the second. If only she had a troubled sibling or a suspicious illness or (another) ailing marriage to a celebrity...A girl can dream.

EDIT: OMFG, good eyes! I wish I had a nude painting of myself and a mansion to hang it in.

Edited December 3, 2015 by link417

[sadie]

I've read all 8 pages here. What fun to have this show back. More Eileen please! I'm stealing her line "thanks......bitch" sheer perfection.

On the dinner scene and comments about Yo's appearance. I was appalled . Their comments weren't coming from a place of concern and "oh my poor thing looks so ill". They were some of the most catty mean spirited digs I've witnessed coming from supposed cultured adults in a long time. I'm no Yo fan, but unless something is happening off screen we aren't privy to, Lisa V, Ken and Kyle were all simply being awful. It really turned my stomach. Yo is obviously going thru something, and the way they reveled in how bad she looked and why she couldn't throw some concealer on just shows how shallow and cruel these 3 are. If karma exists these 3 are do a big ole karma burger in their future.

[NYCFree]

I have mixed feelings about the other ladies' comments about Yo's lack of makeup, because the very same thing happened between my mother and myself.

It was September 11th, I was in Manhattan and almost five months pregnant. I started having contractions (I later found out that extreme stress can do that), my husband was at work in the Bronx and so my mom and I went to the hospital together. The hospital that day was a freaky and chilling experience, the main lobby was filled with medical personal waiting for the patients that never came. While we were waiting up in maternity my mom suddenly turns to me and said "wouldn't you like to put on some lipstick?" I still remember that because it was so bizarre and out of place. Thinking about it, the whole day was out of control and my mom must have wanted at least something to look normal, even if it was not. People react oddly to illness, the same as people have different grief reactions.

Ps, baby is now 13.

[bravofan27]

Kyle appeared to not just be shocked that Yolanda didn't wear makeup but repulsed. Does she have a panic attack when she she's someone that doesn't look beautiful? She also had a mini breakdown when her mother in law had got out of surgery for a facelift. She couldn't handle it. Kyle seems like she would fall apart if she was in the real world, seeing real people. She lives in a total fantasy land. It was just so surprising how repulsed and bothered she was by it, like it made her feel scared. Her world is crumbling! She isn't surrounded by beautiful people! 

 

I would love to take Kyle to Target with me. She would probably have a heart attack being around people that didn't look perfect and maybe had messy hair or boots on! She is really coming off at super uber stuck up this season. She probably always has been, but her desire to live only in a beautiful world with beautiful people is IMO, a little psycho and obsessive. I think Lisa is the same way, must be surrounded by beauty at all times or will have a panic attack. Reminds me of my sister who was so freaked out about being around "normal" people that may be poor at the grocery store, that she traveled 20 miles to a whole foods in the "rich" neighborhood to buy a few groceries when she visited me. I'm like, there is a Cub Foods right there--  and she insisted on whole foods. She feels dirty or insecure in a normal environment.

Gosh I can't stand stuck up people. It's so selfish and ridiculous to isolate yourself and judge others because of how they look. 

[Giselle]

I have mixed feelings about the other ladies' comments about Yo's lack of makeup, because the very same thing happened between my mother and myself.

It was September 11th, I was in Manhattan and almost five months pregnant. I started having contractions (I later found out that extreme stress can do that), my husband was at work in the Bronx and so my mom and I went to the hospital together. The hospital that day was a freaky and chilling experience, the main lobby was filled with medical personal waiting for the patients that never came. While we were waiting up in maternity my mom suddenly turns to me and said "wouldn't you like to put on some lipstick?" I still remember that because it was so bizarre and out of place. Thinking about it, the whole day was out of control and my mom must have wanted at least something to look normal, even if it was not. People react oddly to illness, the same as people have different grief reactions.

Ps, baby is now 13.

 

When I was a kid and under the weather my mama would always draw a bath for me, and also when needed she would wipe my face, put a bit of lotion on my raw nose and Chapstick on my lips, brush my hair and put it into ponytails or braids (fewer tangles while in bed) and put me into my prettiest PJs. She said it would make me feel better and on several levels it did. I felt pampered and loved and being freshened up like that I felt more comfortable as I recuperated. I still do it and recommend it to this day.

 

When I die I do so want them to find a pretty corpse.

 

edited to add: FYI No, I am not dying.

Edited December 3, 2015 by Giselle

[hoodooznoodooz]

Hey, Satan Andy, will ya tell Rinna to stop fuckin' laughing at everything she says in her TH's?  It's not cute or funny or charming.  It's really annoying as all fuck.  Hate it, hate it, hate it.  Make it stop immediately!

 

I've been wanting to write this for a while now. I mostly like Rinna, but the laughing at her own not-very-funny jokes is super annoying.

[zoeysmom]

I've read all 8 pages here. What fun to have this show back. More Eileen please! I'm stealing her line "thanks......bitch" sheer perfection.

On the dinner scene and comments about Yo's appearance. I was appalled . Their comments weren't coming from a place of concern and "oh my poor thing looks so ill". They were some of the most catty mean spirited digs I've witnessed coming from supposed cultured adults in a long time. I'm no Yo fan, but unless something is happening off screen we aren't privy to, Lisa V, Ken and Kyle were all simply being awful. It really turned my stomach. Yo is obviously going thru something, and the way they reveled in how bad she looked and why she couldn't throw some concealer on just shows how shallow and cruel these 3 are. If karma exists these 3 are do a big ole karma burger in their future.

They did not all say the same thing.  Kyle's reference was to women not going out to an upscale restaurant without make up.  She also said Yolanda looked good without make up.

 

They have all been at the receiving end of rude Yolanda, lying Yolanda, manipulative Yolanda.  I don't think karma really works that way but if it does it seems Yolanda is getting the double karma burger for the bitchy things she has said and done to Kyle, Lisa and Ken, Joyce and for her continuing defense of Brandi.

[zoeysmom]

Kyle appeared to not just be shocked that Yolanda didn't wear makeup but repulsed. Does she have a panic attack when she she's someone that doesn't look beautiful? She also had a mini breakdown when her mother in law had got out of surgery for a facelift. She couldn't handle it. Kyle seems like she would fall apart if she was in the real world, seeing real people. She lives in a total fantasy land. It was just so surprising how repulsed and bothered she was by it, like it made her feel scared. Her world is crumbling! She isn't surrounded by beautiful people! 

 

I would love to take Kyle to Target with me. She would probably have a heart attack being around people that didn't look perfect and maybe had messy hair or boots on! She is really coming off at super uber stuck up this season. She probably always has been, but her desire to live only in a beautiful world with beautiful people is IMO, a little psycho and obsessive. I think Lisa is the same way, must be surrounded by beauty at all times or will have a panic attack. Reminds me of my sister who was so freaked out about being around "normal" people that may be poor at the grocery store, that she traveled 20 miles to a whole foods in the "rich" neighborhood to buy a few groceries when she visited me. I'm like, there is a Cub Foods right there--  and she insisted on whole foods. She feels dirty or insecure in a normal environment.

Gosh I can't stand stuck up people. It's so selfish and ridiculous to isolate yourself and judge others because of how they look. 

Here is the clip-http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-6/episode-1/videos/yolanda-foster-goes-out-makeup-free

[lunastartron]

They did not all say the same thing.  Kyle's reference was to women not going out to an upscale restaurant without make up.  She also said Yolanda looked good without make up.

 

They have all been at the receiving end of rude Yolanda, lying Yolanda, manipulative Yolanda.  I don't think karma really works that way but if it does it seems Yolanda is getting the double karma burger for the bitchy things she has said and done to Kyle, Lisa and Ken, Joyce and for her continuing defense of Brandi.

 

Different strokes and all that but, from my own personal perspective, it's rather befuddling to read the fury that "seeing a woman without makeup in Beverly Hills is borderline shocking" - which, considering its structure, is a statement on the overarching culture of Beverly Hills itself than Yo's appearance - inspires while a demonstrably false and willful effort to malign a man on national television as someone who would assault a woman is an oh, get over it non-event.

 

Kyle appeared to not just be shocked that Yolanda didn't wear makeup but repulsed. Does she have a panic attack when she she's someone that doesn't look beautiful? She also had a mini breakdown when her mother in law had got out of surgery for a facelift. She couldn't handle it. Kyle seems like she would fall apart if she was in the real world, seeing real people. She lives in a total fantasy land. It was just so surprising how repulsed and bothered she was by it, like it made her feel scared. Her world is crumbling! She isn't surrounded by beautiful people! 

 

I would love to take Kyle to Target with me. She would probably have a heart attack being around people that didn't look perfect and maybe had messy hair or boots on! She is really coming off at super uber stuck up this season. She probably always has been, but her desire to live only in a beautiful world with beautiful people is IMO, a little psycho and obsessive. I think Lisa is the same way, must be surrounded by beauty at all times or will have a panic attack. Reminds me of my sister who was so freaked out about being around "normal" people that may be poor at the grocery store, that she traveled 20 miles to a whole foods in the "rich" neighborhood to buy a few groceries when she visited me. I'm like, there is a Cub Foods right there--  and she insisted on whole foods. She feels dirty or insecure in a normal environment.

Gosh I can't stand stuck up people. It's so selfish and ridiculous to isolate yourself and judge others because of how they look. 

Kyle is the sister of a lifelong abusive alcoholic who often tripped onto set unkempt and disheveled. Lisa has done more than any cast member across the franchise to highlight the philanthropies to which she devotes her time, at least one of which is a rescue for homeless dogs. I'm pretty sure both can handle aesthetic imperfection.

[Giselle]

They did not all say the same thing.  Kyle's reference was to women not going out to an upscale restaurant without make up.  She also said Yolanda looked good without make up.

 

They have all been at the receiving end of rude Yolanda, lying Yolanda, manipulative Yolanda.  I don't think karma really works that way but if it does it seems Yolanda is getting the double karma burger for the bitchy things she has said and done to Kyle, Lisa and Ken, Joyce and for her continuing defense of Brandi.

 

I'm just waiting for Yo to complain that the get well cards didn't have tiny hearts drawn on them. True friends do that you know.

[zoeysmom]

Here is a lengthy but lighter review of Tuesday night's premiere: http://www.trashtalktv.com/12/02/a-lesson-from-daveed-my-love-learning-from-the-yoli-sitch/374200/

 

I think my favorite part was having Kathy Hilton's role played by a fat person.  I guess just because it is so ridiculous to get mad at a someone for basing a TV show about their life. 

[FozzyBear]

ITA but Kyle gets a tremendous amount of mileage out of the status quo. Despite what she spouts (endlessly and always on camera or in print) we've no way of really knowing if the little teapot truly wants Kim sober.

So as someone who has never liked Kyle, I don't actually doubt that she wants Kim sober. I think she wants it very badly, just in some magical thinking way that doesn't require much work from anyone. I think she wants someone to be able to wave a magic wand and instantly make Kim into the type of person who's been sober 20 years and has such a handle on it that it ain't no big thing. The person where you might know them for years and not notice they never actually drink because it truly isn't a big deal anymore. I don't think Kyle wants to go through the 19 years of not going to parties or on vacations and going to lots of therapy and tense conversations and the basic reckoning of everything that goes into getting there. I also don't think Kyle wants to give up the attention she gets from being the martyr sister that has the good family and the good kids and is the good girl who does all these good things for her crazy drunken sister. And I really don't think Kyle is introspective or smart enough to realize any of these things very easily. All that together along with the omnibus of issues that Kim drags into every day and you have the weird dry-drunk dynamic of sisters that love/hate and are best friends/complete strangers.

[izabella]

Kyle appeared to not just be shocked that Yolanda didn't wear makeup but repulsed. Does she have a panic attack when she she's someone that doesn't look beautiful? She also had a mini breakdown when her mother in law had got out of surgery for a facelift. She couldn't handle it. Kyle seems like she would fall apart if she was in the real world, seeing real people. She lives in a total fantasy land. It was just so surprising how repulsed and bothered she was by it, like it made her feel scared. Her world is crumbling! She isn't surrounded by beautiful people!

 

Maybe it's related to how her mother looked when she was ill and dying, and how Kim usually looks when she's busy getting arrested for shoplifting.  I'm sure Kyle has seen unmade up people before, just not Perfect Pants Yolanda.

[ryebread]

I've read all 8 pages here. What fun to have this show back. More Eileen please! I'm stealing her line "thanks......bitch" sheer perfection.

 

More Eileen?  Your wish is my command. I know this isn't what you meant but I can't resist.  Her house, and lack of maintenance, fascinates me so.

 

Here's a pic of Eileen's house last year from Bravo's site.   I just paused the DVR of the shot of her house from this episode and compared the two. See the windows across the front of the rotunda?  Whatever that is growing has completely covered them up this year.  See the wall with the window with the awning?  Also almost covered over. Vegetation is now growing out of the gutters on the very top of the rotunda and up the chimney where none grew last year. 

 

Dear Interior Decorator: Taking down the draperies is only going to do so much to bring light and air into that house. Implore them to hire a landscaper. The condition of this house pains me as the architecture looks like it could really be something, you just can't see it.  I know - as long as Eileen likes it so what - but dang if a few pots of geraniums at the entry wouldn't make a world of difference.  I watch this show for house porn.  Dammit Eileen, you're so close.

 

[goofygirl]

Thanks, ryebread.  Now every time I look at Lisa Rinna, I'm gonna be thinking ,"Shiny butthole".  LOL!!!

[ryebread]

Thanks, ryebread.  Now every time I look at Lisa Rinna, I'm gonna be thinking ,"Shiny butthole".  LOL!!!

 

You're welcome. Ha!

 

[One Tough Cookie]

When I was a kid and under the weather my mama would always draw a bath for me, and also when needed she would wipe my face, put a bit of lotion on my raw nose and Chapstick on my lips, brush my hair and put it into ponytails or braids (fewer tangles while in bed) and put me into my prettiest PJs. She said it would make me feel better and on several levels it did. I felt pampered and loved and being freshened up like that I felt more comfortable as I recuperated. I still do it and recommend it to this day.

 

When I die I do so want them to find a pretty corpse.

 

edited to add: FYI No, I am not dying.

 

 

Oh--this made me tear up!  You are lucky to have such a sweet and caring mother who actually acts like a loving mother!  I'm jealous!

this is my take on the Yolanda showing up san make up and their reaction.  I think they ALL agreed with Ken, but were super aware of the cameras and had to couch what they said. I thought LR's comment about armour was very perceptive.

 

A snark about Ken {whom I seriously love--he's such an addled 70s victim!}--I can't help remembering about calling PamDana "chubby", and no-one stuck up for her.   I remember when I was in the throes of major anorexia and thought normal women with actual figures looked huge.  I wonder what Ken's excuse is.

 

Other than that little nit-pick, I'm glad they are back!

 

eta:  I just loved Kyle's hair in the limo--long, very wavy with a deep reddish tint.  Gorgeous.

 

ANOTHER BIG PLUS: No trashbag Brandy!

Edited December 3, 2015 by One More Time

[jinjer]

I don't believe Yolanda is faking illness for the sole reason that it serves no purpose. Frankly, it does the opposite by throwing a monkey wrench into being in service to her King. She can't travel with him, can't be his plus 1 at events, can't host events and has become a burden. Something someone in the game as long as she has been knows is not in her best interest. Sure it may garner his attention but the negatives seem outweigh the positives in my estimation.

 

ITA.  She was going to be the lifestyle queen who showed us how to keep the romance alive.  That was going to be her lifestyle show.  Her now defunct website had it all on there.  This illness is totally antithetical to everything Yolanda holds dear.  Plus she has missed out on so much of Gigi and Bella's success.

 

Loved Kyle's back fat. Ditch the $75,000 sunglasses and buy a good brawr or shape wear Kyle!  I think she slipped up on some of the body sculpting or lipo she did for last season.  At least we know Lisa V never had a tummy tuck!

 

Oh Kathy and Kim are going to hate her for stealing their childhood stories! I hope she included the ones where big Kathy hired hookers to teach them how to give blow jobs.  That was in House of Hilton wasn't it?

 

Meanwhile, isn't Yolanda supposed to a "Friend Of" this season?  What does that tell you if her storyline is front and center and Kim and Brandi were called back for filming in late October?

[MatildaMoody]

This is why I love the interwebs! This is an extremely long recap and it is worth the read, but I love it for the the fact that Ronnie calls out one of Yolanda's exaggerations on page 6 of the recap. So simple, yet so sublime.

[Feline Queen]

Kyle appeared to not just be shocked that Yolanda didn't wear makeup but repulsed. Does she have a panic attack when she she's someone that doesn't look beautiful? She also had a mini breakdown when her mother in law had got out of surgery for a facelift. She couldn't handle it. Kyle seems like she would fall apart if she was in the real world, seeing real people. She lives in a total fantasy land. It was just so surprising how repulsed and bothered she was by it, like it made her feel scared. Her world is crumbling! She isn't surrounded by beautiful people! 

 

I would love to take Kyle to Target with me. She would probably have a heart attack being around people that didn't look perfect and maybe had messy hair or boots on! She is really coming off at super uber stuck up this season. She probably always has been, but her desire to live only in a beautiful world with beautiful people is IMO, a little psycho and obsessive. I think Lisa is the same way, must be surrounded by beauty at all times or will have a panic attack. Reminds me of my sister who was so freaked out about being around "normal" people that may be poor at the grocery store, that she traveled 20 miles to a whole foods in the "rich" neighborhood to buy a few groceries when she visited me. I'm like, there is a Cub Foods right there--  and she insisted on whole foods. She feels dirty or insecure in a normal environment.

Gosh I can't stand stuck up people. It's so selfish and ridiculous to isolate yourself and judge others because of how they look. 

In that case, Kyle and your sister would both probably freak out being around me. I volunteer helping homeless people (and their pets) and regularly have conversations with them, take them to lunch or dinner and give hugs when I first see them and then again when we're parting. I became very close with one couple I helped get off the streets and into an apartment. I recently took the woman for a birthday lunch and then a few days ago they both joined me, my husband, son, daughter and mother for lunch. 

[nexxie]

Oh Kathy and Kim are going to hate her for stealing their childhood stories! I hope she included the ones where big Kathy hired hookers to teach them how to give blow jobs.  That was in House of Hilton wasn't it?

 

I wonder if they're afraid that Kyle has put everything together and will out Big Kathy and Kim as narcissists.

[Sai]

Since the First Looks thread is locked for now, I'm posting this here.  There are three preview clips up on the Bravo site.  I'm biting my tongue on one of them since there's no place open here to talk about it:

 

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills

I'm not gonna bite my tongue because I have to say that I want Eileen's shirt that she is wearing in the one preview.

[Duke2801]

For all the finger wagging at the "judgmental assholes" who are daring to suggest Yolanda swipe on a little mascara and lipgloss for the bday party, nobody is hesitating to quickly point out Kyle's "back fat" and Lisa V's less than perfect stomach/butt! 

 

I, for one, hated that outfit Kyle was wearing in the scene, but not because I think she had back fat.  I just thought it was all-around unflattering. She probably looked fine in that shirt without her mike pack. 

 

FanOfTheFans, on 02 Dec 2015 - 9:20 PM, said:

I was kind of bummed to hear Kyle talking so much about Kim. I was hoping Kyle would have a season with a different storyline, one that didn't concern Kim. I guess we will see how that plays out.

I am hoping the new ladies bring some lighter subject matter.

Also I am very curious who Lisa R. is talking to when she talks about taking someone down with her. (As was shown in the previews last night)

 

I thought she was talking to/about Kim ... but we shall see!

[Higgins]

Long suffering Kyle just can't get to the understanding that Kim's illness is not about her unless of course she wants it to be and I suspect she does.

[WireWrap]

More Eileen?  Your wish is my command. I know this isn't what you meant but I can't resist.  Her house, and lack of maintenance, fascinates me so.

 

Here's a pic of Eileen's house last year from Bravo's site.   I just paused the DVR of the shot of her house from this episode and compared the two. See the windows across the front of the rotunda?  Whatever that is growing has completely covered them up this year.  See the wall with the window with the awning?  Also almost covered over. Vegetation is now growing out of the gutters on the very top of the rotunda and up the chimney where none grew last year. 

 

Dear Interior Decorator: Taking down the draperies is only going to do so much to bring light and air into that house. Implore them to hire a landscaper. The condition of this house pains me as the architecture looks like it could really be something, you just can't see it.  I know - as long as Eileen likes it so what - but dang if a few pots of geraniums at the entry wouldn't make a world of difference.  I watch this show for house porn.  Dammit Eileen, you're so close.

 

I think that plant is either bougainvillea or another flowering plant but I do agree, it needs to be cut way, way back.

Long suffering Kyle just can't get to the understanding that Kim's illness is not about her unless of course she wants it to be and I suspect she does.

I don't know that Kyle thinks it IS about her but it DOES directly effect her and her family.

[StevieRocks]

Honestly though, if Kyle didn't have Richards family drama to fall back on what would she talk about? She's basically boring and not terribly bright. Without Kim we're left with her giving shocked/concerned face during lunch with Lisa. i guess she could try to go mean girl with Taylor again (I could have sworn I saw Taylor in the previews). She basically has 3 speeds: High school mean girl, put upon sister, boring housewife. I choose none of the above.

Bwah! Preach.

[HelloOutThere]

I've read through all 9 pages of comments, and wanted to throw in a couple things I haven't seen mentioned yet:

 

1) Did Kyle get her lips done? I watched several episodes from last season On Demand over the Thanksgiving weekend, and Kyle's lips this season really stood out to me. Or maybe she's had other work done?

 

2) I think the Lisa's will be allies this year. Or more specifically, Lisa V (who I like overall) will choose Lisa R to do a lot of her dirty work this season. Did anyone else notice the way Lisa V pranced over to Lisa R at the birthday dinner while giving most of the rest of the attendees the cold shoulder? I haven't seen Lisa V so excited to see someone since Rumpy came home last season.

 

I think Lisa V finds Lisa "I'll do anything!" R harmless and very easily manipulated. And will use Lisa R to fuel the fire of "Yolo is faking her illness." I think this will be where Lisa R and Eileen diverge -- hence "that doesn't mean I'm going to follow your script" in her tagline. All pure speculation, of course.

 

3) Love that Eileen is still rocking the Ford Flex. I like Eileen a lot, but find her slightly awkward all-around, including in her soap scenes. I can't quite describe it exactly. But I do like her, and like many others have said, I enjoy watching her work.

 

4) I never understood Kyle's classification as a "mean girl." Frankly I think Kyle is too stupid to be any form of effective mean girl. She comes across as very uncouth and uneducated many times (especially in the episode last season where they took her daughter to college), but I think she is a good person at heart who allows her emotions to overcome her way too much (again, immature behavior). Her tagline was so generic and boring that they might have just played music and no tagline for her in the intro.

 

5) Interested to meet the new ladies. The one who already flashed herself to us indeed seems trashy, but the other one seems to have potential to be a proper BH addition. 

[Gam2]

Wire wrap-I agree totally. If you've never lived with/dealt with an addict, you have absolutely no idea what it's like. It's about the whole family and friends who have tried over and over to "help" the addict. You'll realize that you're blamed, shamed, expected to pay rent, utilities, car insurance, bail money, take care of children, etc. Not all of that happened to us, thank goodness. But yes, It's a whole family problem and after years of this, it totally wears you out to the point of exhaustion. At some point, you realize it's you or them. You cannot save someone else so you have to save yourself and your family. When our counselor told us this, the light bulb came on. It changed everything for us.

[zoeysmom]

Long suffering Kyle just can't get to the understanding that Kim's illness is not about her unless of course she wants it to be and I suspect she does.

At the time that scene was filmed Kim was pretty much on the lam after Mexico, and causing a lot of worry.  In about two weeks is when Kim gets caught shoplifting. 

 

It is strange because the Richards were taught not to talk about it.  Once Kim made it virtually impossible for the topic to be avoided it somehow becomes Kyle's issue.  At the time some of this was transpiring Kyle had Chad living with her.  So she was involved in her sister's life just not communicating with Kim (per Kim's request) like good sister Kathy, who just continues to deny everything or no comment the matter. 

[FanOfTheFans]

I made that original comment about Kyle talking so much about Kim. WireWrap pointed out to me that basically the Kim storyline needs to be addressed because of all the publicity Kim garnered in the off season. In retrospect that makes sense and I agree. So now my hope is Kyle ties up the Kim drama and moves past it. I would like to see her on her own so to speak. Plus I have Kim fatigue and I am tired of is she sober or not drama? That story has been done to death.

[Higgins]

I think that plant is either bougainvillea or another flowering plant but I do agree, it needs to be cut way, way back.

I don't know that Kyle thinks it IS about her but it DOES directly effect her and her family.

Yeah it does but  much more because she can't just let it be. Kim is who she is and she may never recover fully so I don't understand why Kyle doesn't just avoid the issue. I mean here she is talking about how she feels bad because she can't fix her. Maybe Kim doesn't want to be fixed. Accept it and have a different relationship. Kyle's "help" hurt Kim more than helped. She is not a project to be fixed by anyone but herself. Let her know you love her just as she is and let her problems be her responsibility and for fuck's sake stop making her a storyline for your storyline. It's really fucked up.