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Sadly, for Christine their funky finances are the worst. Depending on what they make form TLC and how they divide it, when it comes time for her to retire, her SSA could be pretty low because she has never worked before TLC. And... only Meri and Robyn will be entitled to independently collect half of the amount of Kody's SSA, if they opted to go that way rather than collect their own.

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Christine may well be on SSI.  That's the need based program.  SSA is what people pay into and Christine would do well to get a job that is covered if nothing else to qualify for Medicare and have enough monthly payment to cover her Medicare premiums.  She really is the one most at risk in the group.

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56 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Christine may well be on SSI.  That's the need based program.  SSA is what people pay into and Christine would do well to get a job that is covered if nothing else to qualify for Medicare and have enough monthly payment to cover her Medicare premiums.  She really is the one most at risk in the group.

Oops, right. I will correct it!

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Let's hope Christine reads the great suggestions here, works, reports her income accurately, and becomes a productive member of society. And then, enjoys all the benefits that entails.

But honestly, nothing that has happened in the past has just "happened" to a poor, helpless Christine...it's the result of her own poor choices. (Including choosing to marry someone who is already married, and not being able to collect on their Social Security.)

Up to this point, she's shown more of a tendency to follow Kody and polygamy's blueprint of "bleeding the beast" by doing a lot of "creative" reporting come tax time, doing things under the table, running up huge debts and declaring bankruptcy (which the rest of us end up paying for), welfare fraud, etc.

If she decides to live an honest life from here on out, works, pays taxes, etc., great. If she chooses not to turn over a new leaf, I will not feel one ounce of sympathy when she's old and penniless.

The fact that she's already used Ysabel's surgery and leaving Kody as a sympathy card to try to sell more MLM baloney does not leave me feeling at all optimistic that the "new" Christine is going to be any different from the old, lazy, lying, grifting Christine.

Leopards and spots, blah blah blah....

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27 minutes ago, Sasha888 said:

Let's hope Christine reads the great suggestions here, works, reports her income accurately, and becomes a productive member of society. And then, enjoys all the benefits that entails.

But honestly, nothing that has happened in the past has just "happened" to a poor, helpless Christine...it's the result of her own poor choices. (Including choosing to marry someone who is already married, and not being able to collect on their Social Security.)

Up to this point, she's shown more of a tendency to follow Kody and polygamy's blueprint of "bleeding the beast" by doing a lot of "creative" reporting come tax time, doing things under the table, running up huge debts and declaring bankruptcy (which the rest of us end up paying for), welfare fraud, etc.

If she decides to live an honest life from here on out, works, pays taxes, etc., great. If she chooses not to turn over a new leaf, I will not feel one ounce of sympathy when she's old and penniless.

The fact that she's already used Ysabel's surgery and leaving Kody as a sympathy card to try to sell more MLM baloney does not leave me feeling at all optimistic that the "new" Christine is going to be any different from the old, lazy, lying, grifting Christine.

Leopards and spots, blah blah blah....

Spot on. I don't understand the love and rah-rah ranting for her.  She made her bed and blew off everyone who tried to talk to her, including the aunt from whom Christine hid in a bathroom stall.  Sheesh.  She's a brainwashed simpleton and I don't foresee her becoming a productive member of society. She's firmly entrenched in MLMLand.

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53 minutes ago, Cetacean said:

She's firmly entrenched in MLMLand.

It's very concerning to me that Christine has joined two MLM's since leaving Kody (Plexus and Pampered Chef - unless she was just doing a cooking video for someone else who sells Pampered Chef? But it seems more likely she's selling it herself...).

She joined LuLaRags and that MLM that was some makeup products (which seems to have now fallen by the wayside) while her marriage was floundering badly.

I hate to be the voice of doom for those of you who have lots of hope for Christine, but it appears when one cult lets her down (polygamy), Christine starts frantically grabbing onto other cult groups, in the form of MLM's. 

Sound like anyone you know? (**cough cough**Meri**cough cough**)

Christine needs massive amounts of therapy and cult de-programming, and I doubt she will get it. First, she would have to admit that her religion is, in fact, a cult, and I really don't think she sees that. 

Her aunt is her best hope at this point, but I believe Christine is still mentally hiding in that bathroom stall.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Cetacean said:

Spot on. I don't understand the love and rah-rah ranting for her.  She made her bed and blew off everyone who tried to talk to her, including the aunt from whom Christine hid in a bathroom stall.  Sheesh.  She's a brainwashed simpleton and I don't foresee her becoming a productive member of society. She's firmly entrenched in MLMLand.

Her situation may still not be great but it can only be improved by being away from Kody and the rest of the fambly. I wouldn't say that I'm rah-rah'ing for her but I think Kody has treated her badly (and yes, she did make the choice to continue to stay and be treated badly, and all the choices that led to her financial dependence on their financial house-of-cards) and I think he has treated her children badly. So having him less involved/uninvolved in her and their lives is worth cheering, even if she is still in a precarious situation. Baby steps.

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16 hours ago, Cetacean said:

Spot on. I don't understand the love and rah-rah ranting for her.  She made her bed and blew off everyone who tried to talk to her, including the aunt from whom Christine hid in a bathroom stall.  Sheesh.  She's a brainwashed simpleton and I don't foresee her becoming a productive member of society. She's firmly entrenched in MLMLand.

Maybe, but she’s taken the big step of leaving the family for her own well-being. Given the pressure of filming a show, it was probably a scarier move than we give her credit for. 

But, you have a point with the MLMs. The pyramid scheme stuff isn’t likely to do her any good unless she comes in at the tippy-top. I can’t believe LuLaNo is still afloat given the ugly, poorly made crap they sell combined with the documentary exposing their bullshit. 

Why do people pay so much money for that hideous shit? You can find way better at a thrift or consignment shop for far less! 

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7 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I see Christine as, when you know better, you do better. Folks stay in unhealthy relationships for all kinds of reasons. She made her bed and she laid in it for 20+ years. Now she's (hopefully) moving on. To me that's always a good thing.

Is Kody a bedsore in this analogy?

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5 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

Is Kody a bedsore in this analogy?

I think the relationship is the bedsore, here--festering, unhealthy, unsanitary, and unsafe, borne of a body that stayed in one place for too long. I don't think Kody stayed in her bed long enough to infect. 

Infest, maybe, but not infect.

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9 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

I saw that LLN is now making (ugly as shit) purses.  It IS a mystery that they're still in business, given the documentary and general bad rep they deservedly have.  

Wearers of the fugly LLN clothes probably couldn't find purses to match their outfits, so LLN filled that gap.  Do they also sell clodhoppers?

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2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Christian is doing another cooking video.

Does she do these to promote the Pampered Chef products? Or is the cooking video thing a separate venture?

I don't like MLM's at all, but I got guilted into a Pampered Chef party WAYYYYYY back in the 90's and felt that I should at least buy a little something. And I have to admit, it was a good quality product and I just used the dang thing the other day. 

I still wish she'd steer clear of the cult-ish MLM's but Pampered Chef is less sketchy than selling LuLaNo or Plexus. 

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8 hours ago, Sasha888 said:

Does she do these to promote the Pampered Chef products? Or is the cooking video thing a separate venture?

I don't like MLM's at all, but I got guilted into a Pampered Chef party WAYYYYYY back in the 90's and felt that I should at least buy a little something. And I have to admit, it was a good quality product and I just used the dang thing the other day. 

I still wish she'd steer clear of the cult-ish MLM's but Pampered Chef is less sketchy than selling LuLaNo or Plexus. 

I almost let myself get guilted into Rodan and Fields. I love the skincare products and use them, but that’s all I’ll ever do. I don’t want to do some kind of “hustle” finding and recruiting new sellers. I was so disgusted by the pressure they put on me to go that way, I almost stopped using it (but I get discounts and my rep doesn’t harass me anymore). 

I don’t like pampered chef—a friend of mine had a sales thing and they were out of everything I wanted. If I find that brand at a thrift shop, I get it but I was annoyed with the whole process. It also took 3 months to get the thing I didn’t even want. 

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I don't like MLM's at all, but I got guilted into a Pampered Chef party WAYYYYYY back in the 90's and felt that I should at least buy a little something. And I have to admit, it was a good quality product and I just used the dang thing the other day. 

You can't go to an MLM party and not buy anything unless you have some pretty serious balls. The whole scam is that you're invited to a "party" by your friend, who may even tell you don't really have to buy anything. But there's the unwritten rule that you're not actually going to leave without buying "something". I used to always seek out the cheapest thing to buy. The jewelry "parties" and Southern Home were the worst ones, because nothing was less than $25 and most of it was very expensive.

Everything Christine is selling is part of MLM scam business model. Except Cameo, but I don't need a video of Christine. 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Kellyee said:

You can't go to an MLM party and not buy anything unless you have some pretty serious balls. The whole scam is that you're invited to a "party" by your friend, who may even tell you don't really have to buy anything. But there's the unwritten rule that you're not actually going to leave without buying "something". I used to always seek out the cheapest thing to buy. The jewelry "parties" and Southern Home were the worst ones, because nothing was less than $25 and most of it was very expensive.

Everything Christine is selling is part of MLM scam business model. Except Cameo, but I don't need a video of Christine. 

I completely agree...we've probably all been guilted by someone we know who has gotten into selling some MLM product. Even if they had a good product at a good price (which almost none of them do...it's all overpriced) it's still a disingenuous guilt scam to the buyer, and a scramble to step on your fellow MLM member so you can profit from the pyramid model.

There's no "party" - it's a sales pitch, and your friend hasn't reached out to you because they care and want to spend time with you, they want to make a sale. If the friend who invites you is hosting the party and isn't the actual sales rep, they're still using you - hoping you'll buy so they can get more "hostess gifts".

I call it "use your friends, then lose your friends". Because people just get sick of being guilted, and start avoiding that person who is always selling some crap.

All the wives except Robyn sell MLM garbage, and some of the daughters as well, and they all need to grow a conscience and stop being ugly legging and poison pushers, but Christine's behavior is especially terrifying...she's joining so many! A conversation with her must be a nothing but a bombardment of sales pitches for multiple products. She's going to chase every decent person she comes across away.

If she needs more income than just her show income, how awesome would it be for her to get a plain old regular honest job...she's moved to a place where she has lots of family who could help with Truely, so she could do something part-time (employers are hard up for help right now). She could have a reliable paycheck, make friends with new co-workers, and the dignity of not being a con artist. All with the added bonus of everyone not running away from you when you approach.

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

What a way, way happier life for her.

These were cute of Christine and Aspyn.

Mykelti not so much. 🤮 If you're not going to make the slightest attempt to keep up with your roots, don't color. Ombre is a thing, but not when it's done like this.

If Mykelti is too busy enjoying being a mom to fuss with going to the salon, that's actually really great - just live life and enjoy it and leave that hair alone, her natural color would be so much better anyway. This pink-ish color with a bunch of grown out roots just looks unkempt to me.

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8 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

Christine has always been a moron and now she’s a 50 yr old moron having to make her own way in the world… I have no sympathy for her, hopefully she gains some perspective and realizes that her GREAT polygamous lifestyle was shit!

If Christine ever came forward and admitted what a brainwashed idiot she had been, I might give her a pass.  RIght now, she's as bad or worse than the rest of them because she put her children second to the manchild and they suffered for it.  I don't care if she ends up living in a cardboard box under a freeway overpass, she deserves it.

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19 hours ago, Absolom said:

Mykelti's hair now doesn't bother much since it's reasonably close in tone.  When she had four or five colors growing out, it was a horrible mess.  That black was the worst.  

The way she wears her hair ages her so much that she looks like a granny.  At least she does to me.  It's sad because she is a good looking girl, but yanking her hair up like that, ugh.  It draws my attention straight to her forehead creases.  😐

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Re. Christine and her MLM’s:

Whilst I agree with you about all that was said about MLM’s, I can’t help but wonder if she has any other option? Please correct me if I’m wrong though, I’m just going by what I see around here in Western Europe. Here, a woman in her late 40s (or older) that lacks education and work experience is at a very, very big disadvantage on the job market. I dare even say she won’t stand a chance at all!

The jobs that are there and won’t require much experience or a degree are taken up by youngsters like high schoolers or students, simply because they are a lot cheaper (youth wages). Christine would be too expensive here. With luck, you would be able to find something through your network or you could try to start your own business. 

With that in mind, Starting your own business and using your ‘fame’ seem like a smart move. An MLM would be able to combine both and if she’s pretty high up the ranks as some suspect, she’ll be able to provide for herself.

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21 hours ago, Absolom said:

Mykelti's hair now doesn't bother much since it's reasonably close in tone.  When she had four or five colors growing out, it was a horrible mess.  That black was the worst.  

I agree her hair looks much better now. The black hair washed her out and made her look…….OLD. Now if she would just do something about the hideous clothes. 

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26 minutes ago, LilyD said:

Re. Christine and her MLM’s:

Whilst I agree with you about all that was said about MLM’s, I can’t help but wonder if she has any other option? Please correct me if I’m wrong though, I’m just going by what I see around here in Western Europe. Here, a woman in her late 40s (or older) that lacks education and work experience is at a very, very big disadvantage on the job market. I dare even say she won’t stand a chance at all!

The jobs that are there and won’t require much experience or a degree are taken up by youngsters like high schoolers or students, simply because they are a lot cheaper (youth wages). Christine would be too expensive here. With luck, you would be able to find something through your network or you could try to start your own business. 

With that in mind, Starting your own business and using your ‘fame’ seem like a smart move. An MLM would be able to combine both and if she’s pretty high up the ranks as some suspect, she’ll be able to provide for herself.

Right now in the US or at least where I live there's a job surplus - not enough people to fill them. Christine could find a job if she wanted to. She could take a coding class and get a decent paying job - there's tons of tech in Utah from what I've read, my employer even has an office in Lehi. She just doesn't want to, and clearly she DGAF about signing people up under her who are going to be part of the unsuccessful 99%. Because the way you make $$ in MLM is recruiting. Rather than sales.

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38 minutes ago, DakotaJustice said:

Right now in the US or at least where I live there's a job surplus - not enough people to fill them. Christine could find a job if she wanted to.

Absolutely.  She could have her pick right now, educated or not.  They are paying for training if you need it.  She's just too lazy to be bothered with any kind of set schedule.  That's for non-grifting chumps.

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3 hours ago, DakotaJustice said:

Right now in the US or at least where I live there's a job surplus - not enough people to fill them. Christine could find a job if she wanted to.

 

3 hours ago, Cetacean said:

Absolutely.  She could have her pick right now, educated or not.  They are paying for training if you need it. 

This is what I see in my area as well. Jobs galore, offering thousand dollar sign on bonuses, etc. There's never been a better time to be 49 and be starting over. She can find something decent that would give her a steady income and all the other benefits a real job entails. And even possibly get a sign on bonus instead of shelling out for those MLM "start up packages".

I'm glad she left, and yes it will always be a positive that she got away from Kody, but I did a little re-watch of the season finale the other day. Christine states several times that she wants to move back to Utah to get back to their "community"...to "be around like-minded people"...how great it was to see the Dargers...etc.

I'm sure it's true that she wanted to be closer to her adult children, but she also wanted to be back in the bosom of the cult. She's firmly entrenched in the polygamy cult and that includes the MLM way of life.

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4 hours ago, Libby said:

I don't think that Christine has given up on polygamy. I think that she's given up on Kody.

This was my take on things, too. I don’t think Christine has given up on polygamy any more than your average divorced person has given up on monogamy. 

One thing that surprised me, from the few books I’ve read about Mormon polygamy, was the numbers of older women, women past childbearing age, that were taken from one man and given to another, as men fell into and out of favor with the leadership.  I suppose having a large number of wives is considered a sign of “God’s” favor, and it doesn’t matter if the man is attracted to all of them (or can get all of them pregnant) as long as some of them meet that criteria.  I don’t know if the AUB behaved that way, but it certainly seemed common among the books I read.

I fear Christine will get back into the AUB’s good graces (maybe via her family) and wind up married to some other man who’s even less interested in her than Kody was.  If that’s possible.

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5 hours ago, Cetacean said:

But aren't these men prophets that have direct communication to god?  He's only doing what god is telling him to do so how can he fail?

I have a gut feeling that God cut him loose when he moved to Sin City and started making up his own rules! He's definitely not listening anymore, how else would we explain why Robyn's fervent prayers for a million-dollar rennal went unanswered?

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On 11/13/2021 at 3:50 PM, Sasha888 said:

Loved your whole post but I just wanted to point this out in particular...

I'm not trying to pile on Christine - but I'm not a huge fan, either. For reasons you mentioned, and for the reasons that @Cetacean mentioned, like that Christine always has and probably always will, rather chew her own foot off than do an honest day's work, Christine is not someone I'm going to go all "fan girl" about. I hope she makes the best of her new freedom, but she's still just a grifter, and not someone I'm going to look up to.

Anyway...a big "yes" to that she wants want Robyn has. I know it's easy for people to hate Robyn because she's the favorite and the youngest, and the LAST wife, but Christine was totally cool with that arrangement...as long as it was her who was youngest, last, etc.

Back in the days before Robyn, I think Christine saw herself as the youngest, bubbliest, flirtiest, and LAST wife. She may have even deluded herself into thinking she was the favorite, although I don't think she ever was. And she was just fine with that.

When Christine says she only ever wanted to be a third wife, she's not being entirely truthful, with us or herself. Whether she knows it or not, what she really wanted was to be the youngest, favorite, and last wife. To be that last one, where the guy says "Okay, NOW I've found total fulfillment and I don't need to take on any more wives."

And she was devastated when Robyn came along, and became exactly that. She looked like she was going to have a mental breakdown in some of the Season 1 episodes, when this was happening. It was hard to watch, and I had a lot of sympathy for her, but she even said "It feels like I'm being replaced"...yeah, as LAST wife.

Christine did a lot of the same things Robyn did, we just don't have it on tape. She was the interloper at one time, who came into an established group, dating Kody while Janelle was pregnant, being fine with courting a married man, and expecting everyone to be fine with the fact that she was the new, bubbly young thing. But she sure wasn't okay with it when Robyn did it to her.

I wish she'd have left for the real, deeper, important reasons...like that this is toxic to her and her children...but I fear that she left mostly because she finally realized that she'll never be the favorite. 

I hope she gets a lot of therapy now that she's away from this dysfunctional bunch, and gets out of that junior high age, "compete and fight and scratch and claw against other women to be the favorite" headspace. That is where the polygamy cult wants women to be, and where most of them are...arrested development, at the junior high/boy crazy level.

I agree, as long as she doesn’t seek therapy with Nancy 🙄 She has never impressed me. If it’s Nancy or no one, Christine would be better served to stay home and eat an extra large sheet tray of those questionable peanut butter Fritos 😬

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On 11/18/2021 at 5:26 AM, ginger90 said:

Mykelti looks like she is at least 35 in the first picture 😒 The front of her hair is styled as a pompadour, the color isn’t doing her any favors, her eyebrows are badddd, and the top she’s wearing is fugly. She sits in stark contrast to her mom and sister. 
 

I keep hearing ‘which one is these is not like the other???’ in my head. 

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On 11/19/2021 at 9:45 AM, DakotaJustice said:

Right now in the US or at least where I live there's a job surplus - not enough people to fill them. Christine could find a job if she wanted to. She could take a coding class and get a decent paying job - there's tons of tech in Utah from what I've read, my employer even has an office in Lehi. She just doesn't want to, and clearly she DGAF about signing people up under her who are going to be part of the unsuccessful 99%. Because the way you make $$ in MLM is recruiting. Rather than sales.

She's not going to have a work schedule. 

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15 hours ago, HahYallDoin said:

Mykelti looks like she is at least 35 in the first picture 😒 The front of her hair is styled as a pompadour, the color isn’t doing her any favors, her eyebrows are badddd, and the top she’s wearing is fugly. She sits in stark contrast to her mom and sister. 
 

I keep hearing ‘which one is these is not like the other???’ in my head. 

The “pouf” (aka the “bump”) is making a comeback. Her hair is much better than it once was— black with blonde roots (photo below). But, yeah, the eyebrows are terrible (what is it with this family and eyebrows?) and the top is awful. 
 

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I was truly hyped about the new episode, but today I’m wondering if I can watch this abuse as it unfolds. If I go by the clips, I’ll be irritated, frustrated, and dumbfounded  weekly - slowly.  It was bad enough watching the male openly abuse the females, now we have to watch the females openly (and apparently unashamedly) abuse each other - and the children - then act as if the rEAl issue is simply current circumstances or particular personalities. It’s like they all decided to leave polygyny, but want to state their cases, air petty grievances, and take parting shots on the way out to convince us that their behavior was justified.  They are condemning each other instead of polygyny and it’s increasing more unacceptable to me. 

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Yeah, I jwatched the episode this morning, and I'm trying not to discuss it until everyone gets comment on it "live" or afterwords, but I'm so sick of the drainage hole being such a big dill for Janelle I could scream. She acts like its that beautiful ol fishin hole from the Andy Griffith show!  I'd like to see Kooty pick her up and plant her head-first into it.  Maybe that would shut her up!  ☹

These beotches are so eaten up with bitterness and envy that not one of them can give in to another, just a little something, to keep the peace.  It's sad.

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I actually look for Robyn to leave after Christine because she wrote in her bestseller that she turned down (ALL) her suitors who didn’t want to live polygyny. So since Kody is no longer living polygyny, I’m figuring the only thing for Robyn to do is leave too. I mean, right? Hello? Right?

ETA: OR she could take on Meri’s old job as head wife finder. Yeah, she’ll probably do that instead. 

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On 11/14/2021 at 3:35 PM, Sasha888 said:

Let's hope Christine reads the great suggestions here, works, reports her income accurately, and becomes a productive member of society. And then, enjoys all the benefits that entails.

But honestly, nothing that has happened in the past has just "happened" to a poor, helpless Christine...it's the result of her own poor choices. (Including choosing to marry someone who is already married, and not being able to collect on their Social Security.)

Up to this point, she's shown more of a tendency to follow Kody and polygamy's blueprint of "bleeding the beast" by doing a lot of "creative" reporting come tax time, doing things under the table, running up huge debts and declaring bankruptcy (which the rest of us end up paying for), welfare fraud, etc.

If she decides to live an honest life from here on out, works, pays taxes, etc., great. If she chooses not to turn over a new leaf, I will not feel one ounce of sympathy when she's old and penniless.

The fact that she's already used Ysabel's surgery and leaving Kody as a sympathy card to try to sell more MLM baloney does not leave me feeling at all optimistic that the "new" Christine is going to be any different from the old, lazy, lying, grifting Christine.

Leopards and spots, blah blah blah....

Yes 100%. How exhausting it must be always posting on social media,  hawking stupid products you prob never have used, trying to get more likes and views in hugely competitive forums. Christine, get a job, there are literally thousands available close to wear you live. Work hard, set a good example for Truely, spend time with friends, maybe go on a date or two. You look great, now make good decisions about your happiness and future. 

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