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9 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Maybe....idk....TLC often has trends.  Recently, Ronald built an extra room for his step son on 90 Day....and, recall some other 90 Day cast members lived in a one room shanty, backyard shed, etc.  Still, it’s difficult to film in those tight quarters.   I guess they could film outside.   It is a mystery as to how Janelle would afford a RV like that.   I just don’t get it.  My guess is that a wealthy benefactor loaned it to her.  I have suspected this for a long time.  The only explanation I can imagine is that a wealthy benefactor keeps Kody a float.  I have no proof of this, of course ,🤫 🤑

Why would anyone wealthy enough to support the Brown Clowns even want to be associated with them?? It makes no sense...these Clowns have no sense of financial responsibility...this "wealthy benefactor" might just as well use his money to light his cigars.

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The size of the place wouldn't bother me for two people for a summer with hook-ups at a lovely place with shade, a lake and things to do outside - we'd spend our time picnicking, swimming, hiking, etc.  But seeing that thing parked in the full blazing sun is depressing.  The video says it is airconditioned, but that would take a ton of energy to keep cool.

The 55" TV and faux leather reclining couch are probably what Janelle fell for.

In ginger90's posted photo, are those the stump seats that this fambly has sat on for many uncomfortable conversations? 

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18 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I still don’t see how she’s saving money living in an RV.  Those rentals are pricy, though you may not have to sign a years lease. Maybe that’s what she didn’t want to do.  

Thinking about this some more, I realize that Flagstaff is a college town. In the summer, college kids often move out. Then they come back in the fall. Further proof of Janelle's poor decisions. Unless she already has a house or apartment secured for the fall, she is going to be competing with a lot more prospective renters in Sept or late August than she would if she just found a home now. Who knows, perhaps we will hear in a few weeks that she's hooked up a generator and will be "on the land" for the foreseeable future.

I think most teenagers would be embarrassed to invite friends over in this situation. Not so much because it's a trailer, which could be spun as kind of cool if it's anything like the one in the video - but because of where it's parked. Especially when her presumably well-known siblings live in actual houses. In town. She's definitely going to be facing a lot of questions from her peers, imo.

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1 hour ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

I agree with you, she is complacent, the one time I remember she put her foot down that she was not going to take Gabe out of his school, yet she did. I don't think she offers any push back and just goes along with Kody and his messed up ways. I know that Kody has tossed Christine and her to the side in favor of Robyn, Christine just expresses it more. I really could care less she opted to live in an RV, but I don't think that was a wise choice for Savannah. Maybe Christine can talk her into moving back to Utah or even better, moving to NC to be closer to Maddie.  

This is what I think Kody admires about Janelle - she doesn’t challenge him or place any demands on him. Kody doesn’t give a crap about materialism - this is the guy who insisted on having a sports car that couldn’t fit more than one of his million kids (and certainly not one who needed a car seat). He’s all about how it looks. If he cares that Janelle is not materialistic it’s only because that means there is more for him.

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4 hours ago, Cetacean said:

Having seen these things in person, it's all very cheap finishings, destined to be beaten up in a heartbeat desoite the high cost.  It's fiberboard to save weight.

I guessed that too when the guy in the video was having problems opening/closing the flimsy door. 

If anyone wanted to break in, they wouldn't have a problem. IMO.

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I don’t see the RV as a negative for Janelle and her family, assuming there is water and toilet facilities.  She calls it an adventure and I hope she’s right.  Tiny Houses became popular a few years ago.  It works for some people.  


This camper is much smaller than Janelle’s RV.  Anyone see Nomadland?  LOl

 

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21 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I don’t see the RV as a negative for Janelle and her family, assuming there is water and toilet facilities.

There is water and a toilet but the waste goes into a holding tank.  That means the unit needs to be hauled into a dumping station on a regular basis to be emptied and the water tank refilled.  Which means a vehicle large enought to haul it.  It's not clear what plans there are for that. Or maybe they will wait until the toilet backs up to worry about it.

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23 minutes ago, Cetacean said:

There is water and a toilet but the waste goes into a holding tank.  That means the unit needs to be hauled into a dumping station on a regular basis to be emptied and the water tank refilled.  Which means a vehicle large enought to haul it.  It's not clear what plans there are for that. Or maybe they will wait until the toilet backs up to worry about it.

I imagine a perfunctory rigging up of a Shop Vac and a makeshift Slip & Slide runoff to empty the waste into prarie dog pond and then filling the water tanks with Plexus pink drink ☺️

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5 hours ago, deirdra said:

Maybe TLC is paying for the RV rental to create some 'drama'.  It makes it obvious that they were idiots to buy unserviced lots without bothering to look into how much it would cost to bring in utilities (no wonder they'd been for sale for a year). And nobody in this big happy family will take them in temporarily.  We may get some scenes of Janelle fishing in the drainage ditch to relieve stress before family events and Savannah scrubbing her laundry on a rock and hanging it up to dry, only to be coated by blowing prairie dog plague dirt.

Based on my skimming of facebook comments I get the impression that Janelle purchased it. She said something along the line of it would be useful for traveling in the future.  Looking back I can remember Meri being one of the drivers for the rented family RV trips, but I can't remember ever seeing Janelle driving.  While a 5th wheel is easier to learn to maneuver, it is a skill to be learned to handle not only the truck needed to haul it, but the skill of driving a payload of that size, especially on hills, tight turns and in poor weather. 

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18 hours ago, DakotaJustice said:

but do they actually see each other? 

I doubt it... I looked it up and Savanah is closest in age to Breanna (definitely a NO as we know how Robyn keeps her kids separated from the rest) Which leaves Ysabel who is about a year and a half older. Aurora and Gwen are 2.5-3 years older, which is probably too much age wise.

 I can see how Christine would be willing to have her over but don't know how far away they are living now. And we know how "close" this family actually is nowadays, so I doubt Savanah is seeing anyone.

(Odd spelling of that name btw! Thought Christine was the only one who did that)

 

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16 hours ago, Roslyn said:

Based on my skimming of facebook comments I get the impression that Janelle purchased it. She said something along the line of it would be useful for traveling in the future.  Looking back I can remember Meri being one of the drivers for the rented family RV trips, but I can't remember ever seeing Janelle driving.  While a 5th wheel is easier to learn to maneuver, it is a skill to be learned to handle not only the truck needed to haul it, but the skill of driving a payload of that size, especially on hills, tight turns and in poor weather. 

Even if she takes the necessary lessons, I do not see our lumpish Janelle ever driving this enormous thing on the back of a truck. Ever. Especially not across country to NC. 

These things are extremely expensive. If she bought it new she could have paid upwards of 300K (uneducated guess). The cost of a vehicle to haul it (F350?) would be a lot too. If she did buy it to live in long-term she's a bigger idiot than I thought.

I have a friend who is very ruggedly independent and admirably much more capable than I - she did all her own desert landscaping with minimal help (it took years and was a labor of love). Extensive pavers, planting, tree care etc. She had sold her home during the 2009 housing crisis (alas) and bought an RV planning to travel. Ended up parking on her sister's property and after 2-3 years she rented the house next door (where she did all the landscaping and eventually bought it). Gas was super expensive at the time which put a damper on her travel plans. Of everyone I know, she was the person most likely to enjoy living in an RV and she ended up annoyed and claustrophobic, longing for a home that didn't shake in strong winds and didn't require dumping waste etc. etc. She took exactly one trip, hauling it with her F250 through 3 large Western states (it was smaller than Janelle's, built for one). She gave it up for a song after it sat in her own driveway for a few years.

If she couldn't hack it, Janelle definitely can't. 

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Eh, I am not going to be mad at the other sister wives for Janelle living in the RV. I don’t think it’s an issue of Janelle not being allowed to stay with the sister wives because I don’t think she wants to stay with them. I think this is what Janelle wants. In one of the old seasons when the wives each got a special trip with Kody, Janelle’s was camping. I think this is just her thing. My problem is expecting it for her kid who has no choice in the matter. The way this family works, I doubt everything is working as it should in that RV. Savanah is now stuck in an RV in the middle of nowhere with her mom. Well that must be exciting. I cannot imagine how hot it will be in the summer. I also would not feel safe on that large piece of land with just the RV as protection. 

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13 hours ago, Cetacean said:

There is water and a toilet but the waste goes into a holding tank.  That means the unit needs to be hauled into a dumping station on a regular basis to be emptied and the water tank refilled.

I hope she knows how to do that as Kody is not going to help! He clearly demonstrated his skills in this when he sprayed human waste all over his shoes......

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16 hours ago, Mahamid Frauded Me said:

I agree with you, she is complacent, the one time I remember she put her foot down that she was not going to take Gabe out of his school, yet she did. I don't think she offers any push back and just goes along with Kody and his messed up ways. I know that Kody has tossed Christine and her to the side in favor of Robyn, Christine just expresses it more. I really could care less she opted to live in an RV, but I don't think that was a wise choice for Savannah. Maybe Christine can talk her into moving back to Utah or even better, moving to NC to be closer to Maddie.  

I think this is the trade-off the other wives were not willing to make and in some ways they might feel better about themselves for not giving in and letting Kody have everything his way, but in other ways they are probably irked that because Janelle doesn't offer any push back, his relationship with her is still on a positive note.

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1 hour ago, LilyD said:

I hope she knows how to do that as Kody is not going to help! He clearly demonstrated his skills in this when he sprayed human waste all over his shoes......

I just started watching the RV trip to Nauvoo this morning in preparation for the Surviving Sister Wives podcast.  I was choking on my Cheerios every time those two huge RVs rolled up into another campground near midnight, and Kody flounced and whined that the next day they were going to stay on schedule no matter what.....lather, rinse, repeat.  Pretty sure the "spray dad with poop" segment is coming up soon.  I can't wait.

Am I wrong in remembering that Robyn can look out of the window of the East Turret of her mansion and see Coyote Pass?  So if Janelle runs into any trouble, does she go running to Robyn's?  And HOW can Kody be okay with his wife and daughter living in the middle of nowhere, with no one nearby?  I don't care if Janelle would rather live in a cardboard box under Meri's Pine Trees™ but just the amount of work involved seems very at odds with Janelle's leisurely style of living.

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12 hours ago, Roslyn said:

Based on my skimming of facebook comments I get the impression that Janelle purchased it. She said something along the line of it would be useful for traveling in the future.  Looking back I can remember Meri being one of the drivers for the rented family RV trips, but I can't remember ever seeing Janelle driving.  While a 5th wheel is easier to learn to maneuver, it is a skill to be learned to handle not only the truck needed to haul it, but the skill of driving a payload of that size, especially on hills, tight turns and in poor weather. 

I just watched The Long, Long Trailer the other day.  Great old (1954) movie if you like Lucy.

I would not want to drive one of those.  Just driving our F250 truck is tough enough! 

I hope Janelle's kids aren't cramming into that thing.  This family is nuts, and financially inept, to say the least.

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19 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

I just watched The Long, Long Trailer the other day.  Great old (1954) movie if you like Lucy.

I saw that a couple of months ago for the first time, since it is the same vintage as I am and never had TCM access before.  Virtually everything else I'd seen Lucy & Desi in was on a set.  Except for Lucy stomping on grapes somewhere.  No, I would never want anything that big!

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29 minutes ago, xwordfanatik said:

I just watched The Long, Long Trailer the other day.  Great old (1954) movie if you like Lucy.

I would not want to drive one of those.  Just driving our F250 truck is tough enough! 

I hope Janelle's kids aren't cramming into that thing.  This family is nuts, and financially inept, to say the least.

I “love” Lucy! 😜

Janelle once camped in a tipi (tepee) on Kody’s dad’s property when she left her first husband. Maybe she likes camping— but I hope this is a temporary situation for Savannah’s sake. 

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That travel trailer runs new run between 70K and 80K to buy, with some cheaper.  If she was smart she'd get somebody with a big truck to pull it to Maddie's and live there (preferably in a nearby trailer/RV park), particularly once summer is over.  

Is it possible that Savanah is an introvert and doesn't much care about being around lots of people?  I got enough socialization during the school year that I really didn't need close friends after school and even during the summer.  She might be fine there in the boondocks.

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8 minutes ago, Adiba said:

I “love” Lucy! 😜

Janelle once camped in a tipi (tepee) on Kody’s dad’s property when she left her first husband. Maybe she likes camping— but I hope this is a temporary situation for Savannah’s sake. 

I thought Janelle lived in the tipi while married to Kody - didn’t she basically leave the family for a period of time? I could be conflating different events….

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1 hour ago, MargeGunderson said:

I thought Janelle lived in the tipi while married to Kody - didn’t she basically leave the family for a period of time? I could be conflating different events….

I think the tipi living was before she married Kody, possibly while she was investigating polygamy for herself and by being near Kody's parents while they were venturing into this new faith, she could learn along with them.

When she left Kody I believe she lived with her mother briefly, then got a job and bought a house for herself and kids.  Kody must have been making conjugal visits during this time, as from what I have read, Savanah was conceived during this period.

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6 hours ago, Teafortwo said:

Even if she takes the necessary lessons, I do not see our lumpish Janelle ever driving this enormous thing on the back of a truck. Ever. Especially not across country to NC. 

These things are extremely expensive. If she bought it new she could have paid upwards of 300K (uneducated guess). The cost of a vehicle to haul it (F350?) would be a lot too. If she did buy it to live in long-term she's a bigger idiot than I thought.

I have a friend who is very ruggedly independent and admirably much more capable hmthan I - she did all her own desert landscaping with minimal help (it took years and was a labor of love). Extensive pavers, planting, tree care etc. She had sold her home during the 2009 housing crisis (alas) and bought an RV planning to travel. Ended up parking on her sister's property and after 2-3 years renting the house next door (where she did all the landscaping and eventually bought it). Gas was super expensive at the time which put a damper on her travel plans. Of everyone I know, she was the person most likely to enjoy living in an RV and she ended up annoyed and claustrophobic, longing for a home that didn't shake in strong winds and didn't require dumping waste etc. etc. She took exactly one trip, hauling it with her F250 through 3 large Western states (it was smaller than Janelle's, built for one). She gave it up for a song after it sat in her own driveway for a few years.

If she couldn't hack it, Janelle definitely can't. 

Very true about hauling it around.  She will spend just as much on the truck to pull it as the RV itself.  Plus from several people that own one, it can be very dangerous to haul.  You really have to pay attention and keep your hands on the wheel.  Not saying she can't do it, but it's not something you learn overnight.  

 

My guess is that they are getting read to build something out there.  Don't know how well Flagstaff enforces RV's on property or if it's even an issue.   Or being allowed to live on property long term in a RV.  Those are pesky little details you have to find out before buying a property.  

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4 minutes ago, Pickleinthemiddle said:

Very true about hauling it around.  She will spend just as much on the truck to pull it as the RV itself.  Plus from several people that own one, it can be very dangerous to haul.  You really have to pay attention and keep your hands on the wheel.  Not saying she can't do it, but it's not something you learn overnight.   

I'd be beat before I even started, I can't imagine even backing up to align the truck hitch with the 5th wheeler.  Then the thought of rolling down the highway relying only on side view mirrors would give me nightmares.  

We need input from @Rabbit Hutch to weigh in on what professional truckers feel about these RVs on the highways in the hands of novices.

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I just did a little googling, and you can have a truck come to your RV and empty your tanks:

When your RV can’t move or other RV situations that make disposing of your full black water tank contents difficult or incapable of reaching a good dump station. You need to seek out the services of an RV waster removal service to help you get rid of your black water. Once you do, you should be a happy camper once again.

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51 minutes ago, riverblue22 said:

I just did a little googling, and you can have a truck come to your RV and empty your tanks:

I will bet that doesn't come cheap.  So I bet they will have to ration their water use.  Our little old vacation cottage had a small septic and we were forever "saving the flush" and doing dishes in a pan that we would empty outside.  That is no fun.

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18 minutes ago, Cetacean said:

I will bet that doesn't come cheap.  So I bet they will have to ration their water use.  Our little old vacation cottage had a small septic and we were forever "saving the flush" and doing dishes in a pan that we would empty outside.  That is no fun.

I would bet money on that!

I have well water and a septic tank. It is just me here but I am very careful what goes down into the septic. Having grown up in CA during the 70's water shortage I bought the "if it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown flush it down" with me here to MT. TP is rationed as far as the septic goes.

I would be claustrophobic in that RV but I would probably get many more days from the black water tank than Janelle.

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1 hour ago, Cetacean said:

I will bet that doesn't come cheap.  So I bet they will have to ration their water use.  Our little old vacation cottage had a small septic and we were forever "saving the flush" and doing dishes in a pan that we would empty outside.  That is no fun.

I dated a guy who had a lovely yacht, very nice....but he constantly reminded me to not use the toilet!  🤣 

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This is what Janelle has wrought upon us: well-thought out discussions of waste disposal and septic management. We've certainly spent more time than Janelle in considering these things. And we haven't even gotten to what she's going to do with regular household garbage (including all that used TP and the McDonalds and Taco Bell wrappers). She's gonna have to haul that out, too.

Makes my sweltering summer in NYC (with AC) seem luxurious by comparison. Flush toilets, running water  - and *grocery stores* nearby! Plus semi-paved roads (everything in my neighborhood is being dug up for replacement of gas lines and electrical wiring but at least we have those things). 

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31 minutes ago, Teafortwo said:

And we haven't even gotten to what she's going to do with regular household garbage (including all that used TP and the McDonalds and Taco Bell wrappers). She's gonna have to haul that out, too.

She'll probably drive over & put it in her Sister Wives' garbage cans.  Remember when she had to pay a fine for not paying the per-house garbage pickup charges at the cul-de-sac, thinking it was unfair to have to pay 4 times for "one" family of 23 in 4 houses?

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37 minutes ago, deirdra said:

She'll probably drive over & put it in her Sister Wives' garbage cans.  Remember when she had to pay a fine for not paying the per-house garbage pickup charges at the cul-de-sac, thinking it was unfair to have to pay 4 times for "one" family of 23 in 4 houses?

Funny how they twist their narrative to suit the circumstance.  They are one household in this instance, yet when it's time to declare bankruptcy or apply for food stamps as they have done in the past, they are single moms.

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On 6/30/2021 at 1:51 AM, Teafortwo said:

Thinking about this some more, I realize that Flagstaff is a college town. In the summer, college kids often move out. Then they come back in the fall. Further proof of Janelle's poor decisions. Unless she already has a house or apartment secured for the fall, she is going to be competing with a lot more prospective renters in Sept or late August than she would if she just found a home now.

But she isn't looking for student accommodation, is she? She needs a proper (small?) family home. Some people out here have said that it's hard to find rentals in Flagstaff and  they're not cheap. 

A few days ago I suggested that landlords may be unwilling to rent out to her. I still think this plausible. They are reality 'tv stars' and the people in Flagstaff were not happy to have them (remember how Meri was chased away from her first house?)

Also, landlords typically look for reliable tenants who look after a property. The Browns have been on tv for about 10 years and have clearly shown their messy financial situation and their impulsive and stupid decision making. Also, I would not call Janelle someone who takes pride in where she lives and at least does an effort to keep it tidy and homely as was often shown on tv. Finally, there are her dogs; not all landlords want pets....

I am not saying she had no options at all, but it would be typically Janelle to choose a simple way out and avoid possible conflicts or stress in trying to find a rental.

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Janelle has plenty of SM pics for potential landlords to view her housekeeping skills.  The realtor's photos of her last rental had the house looking nice from the front, but the grass/weeds were well over 6" high in the back yard, visible through the sliding glass door.  With 3.5 able-bodied people in the household there is no excuse for not mowing the lawn.  I can just imagine how full the tall grass was of 3 dogs' droppings, since Janelle often just let them out the back door.

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On 6/29/2021 at 5:50 PM, SunnyBeBe said:

Maybe....idk....TLC often has trends.  Recently, Ronald built an extra room for his step son on 90 Day....and, recall some other 90 Day cast members lived in a one room shanty, backyard shed, etc.  Still, it’s difficult to film in those tight quarters.   I guess they could film outside.   It is a mystery as to how Janelle would afford a RV like that.   I just don’t get it.  My guess is that a wealthy benefactor loaned it to her.  I have suspected this for a long time.  The only explanation I can imagine is that a wealthy benefactor keeps Kody a float.  I have no proof of this, of course ,🤫 🤑

It’s also possible they get regular donations like ministers and missionaries, since some of their fellow believers may see them as such. And there may be paid speaking engagements to rally the faithful troops. 
 

As for Janelle, is she using her RV in conjunction with her real estate powers to sell the lots on CP?  

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10 hours ago, deirdra said:

She'll probably drive over & put it in her Sister Wives' garbage cans.  Remember when she had to pay a fine for not paying the per-house garbage pickup charges at the cul-de-sac, thinking it was unfair to have to pay 4 times for "one" family of 23 in 4 houses?

Let's not sell Janelle short here....remember for a time, we considered her the "smart" one.

She will sneak over to Robyn's house to dump her garbage in Robyn's trash bins - as long as she gets there before noon, no one will be awake.  She'll sneak into Meri's house when Meri isn't home, which is most of the time, to fill up water bottles and jugs from Meri's kitchen sink.  While she's there, she'll help herself to a few dozen Rice Krispie treats, leaving Meri none the wiser.  She will drop Savanah off at Christine's to shower and get a decent meal, and Janelle will take that opportunity to skinny-dip in the Plague Pond and perhaps soak her clothes and lay them flat to dry in the heat of the Arizona summer sun.  And she surely has a secret dill with Kody - he comes over once a week to empty the septic tanks and she continues to pretend not to care that he never wants to step foot inside the RV.

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7 hours ago, LilyD said:

Also, landlords typically look for reliable tenants who look after a property. The Browns have been on tv for about 10 years and have clearly shown their messy financial situation and their impulsive and stupid decision making.

Do not remember the exact wording. Scene: kodybrown and Robyn's rent or buy dilemma. Still amazed at dimwit Robyn's on camera declaration to blow off the down payment if rental became available or some such grifting/disrespect to owner. Who in their "right mind" would want any business dealings with these losers. The AUB doesn't even want them.

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I grew up in the country with a septic tank and a spring for water, then when I was a teen my Grandparents had to have a water well drilled.  It was commonplace to take "bird baths" (I like the Navy shower reference lol) Only with a bird bath you stood in a basin in the basement with a small bucket of clean water and washed, but caught all the water in the basin.  Then the used water was poured back in the bucket and taken out to water the garden.

Before any thunderstorm one of my jobs was to fill the bathtub with buckets of clean water because the spring would run muddy for a few days, as well as the electric (to run the pumps) went out all the time.  All used toilet paper was never flushed but kept in a covered rubbish bin and emptied every couple of days. 

I still live in the country on a septic with well water and we have a much more stable electric grid, but one Monday morning my husband left for the week and bam...the well pump died.  My kids got quick lessons in how to live by carrying water (we have a spring creek that runs under the property and drains by the driveway).  After it was fixed I saw my daughter standing by the sink turning the water on and off.  She said that she had "way more respect for indoor running water" than ever before.

While the RV is cooshy and all, it is still a very aware kind of living.  Those things are designed to be hooked up on a cement pad, leveled and plugged in etc.  Hauling water gets old after the second trip when you discover that you can't haul very much compared to how much water you really need. In times of low rain in the summer I still wash dishes in a tub, dump all the water into a bucket and carry it out to water my garden. Getting water in the quantities she will need (...6 gallon hot water tank empties FAST) and getting waste/water out is going to be a whole lot of time each and every day.

On social media she is spinning her "summer adventure", but even keeping up with just the most basic life needs is going to take her away from everything.  I just hope that the doors are wide open at Robyn and Christine's houses for Savannah to come and go when she needs a long hot shower or just to get away from the confinement of the RV.

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