S07.E03: Battle Of The Brunches

[TOL]

No! It's awesome. I think I might start using that when my kids are fighting.

I guess maybe telling someone you're bored with their conversation is a step up from threatening to shove a skewer in your eye if they don't change the subject?

Vickie Gunvalson is Varsity. Bethenney is merely JV and can only hope to gain the skills to make the roster on the boredom team

Edited April 22, 2015 by TOL

[islandgal140]

Carole is just so ugh.... she doesn't do anything outright but she really zings and chips at other women's self esteem in her talking heads. Last week it was that whole Ramona couldn't steal any of my dresses because she couldn't fit in them. This week she had two that made me want to grab her by her overbite and swing her around the room. First, in her TH about Sonja and her German model she said that young, old, gay, str8 Sonja wasn't discerning with men. So you are Carole? Did you vet that young chef at Luann's before you started flirting with him? Or was that all because he was young, cute and hot? Nothing wrong with that but don't shade others for the same shit you did. Sonja has her issues but she has eyes and loins just like you and went after what she wanted, just like you did. So shut it!

 

Second, she complinsulted Ramona by saying that she had game even though she hasn't dated since the Berlin Wall came down. Oh and than going on to say that really it isn't hard to pick up men because of the after midnight rule, when you can pretty much get anyone's number. Nice. Didn't see any lines around Carole. It is just those little things that just made me never warm up and never like Carole. 

 

Down for the real estate porn and will be interested to see Beth's apartment when it is done. Love white kitchens and baths, especially, white marble. Just hope it isn't as devoid of warmth and personality as her last apartment with Hoppy.

 

Words spill forth from Beth's mouth like bullets from a machine gun. I really haven't missed that about her and if possible she is even more acerbic than before. Not a good look.

 

The state of Avery and Mario's relationship really does sadden.

 

Luann - Snakes and Apples. Isn't that a game? Luann plays it well and I am here for  it!

Edited April 22, 2015 by islandgal140

[Duke2801]

Is it wrong that I when I leave my house I used to tell my three dogs to "be good doggies, no messes", and now I say "be cool, don't be all, like, uncool"?

 

If saying that is wrong, I don't wanna be right!

Please give your cool dogs a pat on the head for me. Oh heck, even the uncool ones too!

 

Second, she complinsulted Ramona by saying that she had game and than going on to say that really it isn't hard to pick up men because of the after midnight rule, when you can pretty much get anyone's number. Really? Really?1?!? Didn't see any lines around Carole. It is just those little things that just made me never warm up and never like Carole

 

 

I still like Carole, but she has been pretty shady in her talking heads this season so far.  I did not like the Ramona not fitting into her dresses comment.  Ramona is tiny.  She might not be child-size tiny like Carol, but I doubt she's more than a size 4 or 6 at the most.  I mean, snark away on their personalities, but let's not with the body-shaming. 

 

As for all the men hitting on them.  Well, they are an overall attractive group women BUT... Carrie Bradshaw voiceover //I couldn't help but wonder //Carrie Bradshaw voiceover...   would they have been getting that much attention from all the men if they didn't have multiple cameras following them?  I tend to think not. 

Edited April 22, 2015 by Duke2801

[One Tough Cookie]

Really?! Did Dorinda just ask another patron to check her coat, assuming he worked there?!

 

 

 I just have to say this about Dorito's treatment of the black customer:  I was CRINGING in second hand embarrassment. It was just awful.

 

There's a tactful way to say 'I don't want to talk about this', but Bethenny has yet to figure that out

 

I think TACT is the only 4 letter word Bethenny isn't familiar with.

Edited April 22, 2015 by One More Time

[tvfanatic13]

Really not warming up to Dorinda. She seems like a smug, entitled bitch. Bethenny isn't doing it for me either. No one else has pissed me off just yet.

[archer1267]

And while I did agree with Luann that it was always pretty obvious what a cad Mario was, it was not really necessary to mention how unsurprising it was.

 

 

It's funny…I posted earlier about how I enjoyed watching LuAnn and Ramona have a nice conversation in Ramona's apartment, but after reading so many comments about LuAnn's stealth bitchiness, think I need a re-watch without my rose-colored glasses :) But it got me thinking about other nuances I may have missed. Did LuAnn inform Ramona about the dating sites because they're still technically married? If so, I remember Jacques being in the picture before LuAnn was officially divorced from the Count, so if she thought it improper for Mario to be "out there" when he's not divorced, it makes no sense. 

 

Words spill forth from Beth's mouth like bullets from a machine gun. I really haven't missed that about her and if possible she is even more acerbic than before. 

 

I know she thought the "get off…my jock" was the height of wit. But between the jock statement and the contractor's comments about Bethenny secretly packing a set of balls, I'm wondering if we're going to be seeing A Very Special Real Housewives episode where Bethenny makes a big announcement.

 

I think Kristen was on tonight...right?

 

Kristen was tricked out in over-the-knee boots and frilly hot pants at Bethenny's brunch. It reminded me of Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman.

Edited April 22, 2015 by archer1267

[sleekandchic]

I thought the same thing, nobody ate a thing.

I love that on Shas of Sunset, there is always a spread of food in every scene. And they eat it lol.

Bethenny's chef had put out a fabu spread of healthy, delicious-looking food, and nothing was touched. Bethenny popped one bite of something in her mouth but that was it. I felt sorry for the unassuming chef as he lingered a bit, then backed out of the room. I guess cause he wasn't a hot, 20 something, there was no interest in flirting with him or allowing him to speak on camera?

The thing about Bs brunch that I found more curious than the absence of eating was that nobody beside B actually sat down! What an uncomfortable image they presented. I know it's all about editing but to me it looked like they were all just playing a part and couldn't wait to leave. They were there to spotlight Bs new house, her products, take a sip of whatever, then on to the real brunch. And they were rewarded for their flyover with goodies to take home.

I find Bs very specific drink- ordering at bars etc to be amusing. I'm actually surprised she doesn't bark, first, rewash the glass! Then buff-dry it with a 100% Irish linen towel! She puts a lot of thought behind her boozing, and nowadays olives are an important food group to her too. Ha!

The meet up in the bar was embarrassing, especially Sonja's predatory pounces and salacious onceovers. Subtlety ain't in her dictionary. Ramona wasn't much better. They come across as desperate for a crumb of male attention.

I kinda liked Dorinda telling her bf that he and his cell were rude at lunch. That moment seemed real, and D seemed secure in herself, not afraid to speak her mind.

[Sage47]

Carole has always made those snarky little comments about the other women. Just one reason I highly dislike her. Newsflash Carole: not every woman wants to be size 00. You could stand to gain ten. Ramona has a great body!

 

Bethenny is RUDE. She and Carole have similar inflated perceptions of themselves. Icky.

[ottergirl]

Oh no, I'm sad to hear that Heather and Lu are on the outs because I really do like both of them.  I wonder if it's related to that "Just be cool" scene and the "strange men" in the house that scared Heather? 

 

 

I am such a Heather lover, it is causing me some amount of dismay to realize that this season, it looks like Heather is the antagonist.  That's based on comments people have been making since the PR and blogging started.  

 

Bethenny, of course, said on WWHL that she and Heather clashed during filming.  (Although she did seem to mediate that a bit in a recent interview, when she said that actually she liked Heather, and they were just like dogs sniffing each other during filming, they had to settle in. )

 

There was the Luann/Heather battle last night on WWHL, plus the scene in the previews shows that fight, and Luann's infamous line is clearly directed at Heather.  This fight makes me sad, because I like them as friends too.

 

Dorinda has been showing MAJOR shade at Heather on her twitter feed - it is all anti-Heather, all the time.

 

And in her latest blog, Sonja rips into Heather, stating all of the above, making it clear that at least in her eyes, Heather is the bad guy of the season.

 

So that's four of the seven Housewives who have Heather issues.  Carole seems to be Switzerland, too stoned and too late on her deadlines to fight with anyone I suspect, we know Ramona and Bethenny are close (they went skiing together a few weeks ago), and that leaves... Heather and KRISTEN?  Really?  No accident, I don't think, that the two of them have been doing all the secondary promotional duties as a team.

 

Ugh.  If Heather gets exiled to the Kristen ghetto I'm going to be major league bummed.  I know she can be bossy, I know she can't ever keep her mouth shut, but shoot, no one is perfect, and I like Heather.

 

Bethenny is getting on my nerves in this go-round - I agree with the posters who say that she clearly thinks she is Above It All, able to dictate what will and will not be discussed (hey, she's like Kim Richards, but with a Skinnygirl logo instead of an attack pit bull!).  But I also admit that no one can give talking heads like she can.  Her Ramona and the dress story, plus her "That's so 2000 and who cares" were both excellent.  Here's a thought:  don't cast Bethenny on the show, just have her watch the episodes before they air and provide running commentary.  

[Cherrio]

Weren't other celebs leaving that building because Taylor Swift moved in and brought  the paparazzi with her?  That was probably a huge selling point to Bethany.  

 

I don't blame Bethany for stocking that brunch with Skinny Girl, I would be nonstop using the show to promote crap, just like every other housewife does.  And I could see how Heather trying so hard to have filmable moments with her by bringing herself into the drama would get on her nerves.  But Bethany is going to have to play ball eventually, she knew what she was signing up for.

 

They really are an attractive group of women, Carole looked especially sexy in those boots.  Someone please post Sonja's man's Instagram, he must have one. 

Carole made a snarky remark about all the Skinny Girl, but she loaded up on all the free things offered her.

[Cherrio]

I always think one word when I see Dorinda. Coarse. She seems so out of place with this group, sort of like Cindy the bikini waxer did during her season. She's utterly and completely without charm.

PERFECT description and perfect comparison about that horrible Cindy.

     

I will add my opinion about the coat check.  It wasn't the shirt, she assumed he worked there because he is black.     Coat check people do not wander thru the restaurant.

[izabella]

Lu wasn't even really stealth about her bitchiness to Ramona, but I don't really blame her after the way Ramona acted when she was getting divorced. And you could tell it bugged her that even now Ramona is making excuses to make it seem like her situation is somehow different. Mario isn't just a cad who cheats with younger women, he is unwell and he was dating a woman in her 30's not a 20 year old! Ha, classic Ramona. I still enjoy her.

 

Does that also mean that LuAnn, Carole, and Sonja are also "unwell" for dating people in their 20's?   Sonja is unwell, for sure, but that is based on her being batshit crazy, not her dating choices.

 

I think people should date and shag whoever they want, but I am so not interested in the cougar thing that seems to be overtaking the show.  I am bored by young men, and would rather see the women dating men closer to their age who have some life experience that might make them interesting people to watch on the screen.

[jumper sage]

Really not warming up to Dorinda. She seems like a smug, entitled bitch. Bethenny isn't doing it for me either. No one else has pissed me off just yet.

Oh..........................my............................God.  That lunch was horrendous.  Run away dude, run away.  What is more rude:  Him talking on the phone about business, quietly, at lunch?  Her screeching loudly about him and the phone and then gets on the line with caller?

 

I caught on Stoopid Housewives (I'm pretty sure) that a blind item of skinny housewife popping pill = Bethenny.

[Cherrio]

Did anyone catch Heather on WWHL talking about the episode? First of all, she looked amazing. It sounds like the tension with Beth will get more intense, but I didn't get the impression that it lasts all season.

The bigger shocker was that she and Lu are on the outs. Lu sent a Tweet during the show calling Heather out for something she said (something about Lu offering her a coat from her Estate Sale?) Heather basically called Lu a liar and said that they are having problems. Lu followed that up with yet another Tweet. It sounds like things get ugly. I'm disappointed because I like them as friends.

Heather smashed Luann down !       Luann, true to form when she is wrong (lots) or lying kept tweeting and denying everything, claiming she gives her valuables to charity.         Heather responded and said, if that is true, then why were you having a garage sale?

[racked]

PERFECT description and perfect comparison about that horrible Cindy.

     

I will add my opinion about the coat check.  It wasn't the shirt, she assumed he worked there because he is black.     Coat check people do not wander thru the restaurant.

 

I had to ff through that scene because it got too awkward for me, but I don't think Dorinda thought he actually worked in the coat check room. I think she just assumed he worked in the restaurant and would take her coat if she wanted. It was really tacky and crass and probably racist.  She also started grabbing his tie and touching him in a way that made it seem like she was about to make out with him. So awkward. I kind of liked her up until that moment. 

[Duke2801]

I had to ff through that scene because it got too awkward for me, but I don't think Dorinda thought he actually worked in the coat check room. I think she just assumed he worked in the restaurant and would take her coat if she wanted. It was really tacky and crass and probably racist.  She also started grabbing his tie and touching him in a way that made it seem like she was about to make out with him. So awkward. I kind of liked her up until that moment. 

 

This.  I think she thought he was a waiter. And that because she has a film crew with  her, that everybody in the restaurant should be doing what she says--even if it's not their job.  Very rude and tacky.  I'm not gonna completely write her off just yet, but she's on my side-eye list for the mo. 

[MyAimIsTrue]

complinsulted

My new favorite word.  I love how educational this forum can be.

[SFoster21]

Carole made a snarky remark about all the Skinny Girl, but she loaded up on all the free things offered her.

"I took the blender because it was most expensive!"

Right. All those full guest suites they visited have not assuaged their need for free swag. Men want to become rock stars for the women; women want it for the swag and the invitations.

[AndreaK1041]

Here's a thought:  don't cast Bethenny on the show, just have her watch the episodes before they air and provide running commentary.  

I would watch the shit out of that show.  She could do all of the seasons.  Like the People's Couch, but just Bethenny's chair, produced properly with lighting just like her current talking heads.  You are a genius.

[bosawks]

Same here.  Perhaps one day my wheelchair bound stepsister and her Masters degree in psychology will roll over Dorinda's bare feet.

 

And then give Dorinda her coat.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Funny comment Carole made about product all over Bethenny's house.

What, no Skinny Girl wallpaper?

 

 

Carole got in some good zingers in this ep.  Her sense of humor, which is what I originally really liked about her, could be back.  But I see next ep she's gonna be carrying on with this young kid & acting like she's 20.  Ugh.  Idk, no judgements from me that she wants to date teens.  Well, not that I'm gonna express on here (much).  But her acting like she's 20. riding on bicycle handlebars with the teen boyfriend, makes her look so fuckin' foolish.  And it makes me sad too.  Cuz I thought she was someone who wouldn't let herself look like an idiot on here.  Boy, was I wrong.

 

I'm sure the SkinnyGirl promos are gonna be peppered thru the whole season long.  Ease up on throwing that shit at us, Beth, cuz it's gonna get awfully tiresome very, very quickly.

 

Really?! Did Dorinda just ask another patron to check her coat, assuming he worked there?!

 

 

OMG, at first glance, I thought this had such an uncomfortably racist feel,  I cringed & shuddered at that moment.  But in Dorinda's defense, I am usually in a shirt & tie during the week & when I go into some kind of retail place, I'm often mistaken for working there.  So I think the mistaken identity had more to do with the way that fellow was dressed than anything else.

 

Honestly, I'm really not loving the implication here that ALL middle-aged women wanna desperately chase after 20 year old guys.  Cuz that is the implication & I kinda hate it.  And I think it's pretty inaccurate.  I know, I know, these idiots represent nobody but themselves, but still, they're all middle-aged & almost all of the single ones are chasing after these really, really young dudes.  So what else are we supposed to think?  Sheesh!  

 

Well, this is what Satan Andy wants & it clearly reflects his desires.  OK, there may be some lust, desire & thoughts about hot young guys from middle-aged women.  But to actually want to be involved with 'em?  Um, no.  I mean, look at how foolish & desperate both Carole & Sonja look.  If they wanna do this, fine, I don't care.  Good luck & God Bless 'em, but I suspect most women this age know better.

 

Oh & btw, Lu, I don't believe your bullshit for one second that there are no places to go on the Upper East Side.  Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, hun.  We know better.  You are known on the Upper East Side & don't wanna be seen slutting around there.  This has been your routine for years, sweetie.  And that's well-known too.  Hey, no judgements from me.  I admire your discretion, Lu.  Sonja could take a lesson from Lu.  She's acting so trashy, it's pretty nauseating to watch.  It's sad really.  It's like she's lost any sense of dignity.  I wonder if Sonja has any friends left.

 

OK, so the heck why was Kelly there?  I'm sure it had absolutely nothing to do with Luann.  This was totally a producer setup, probably created by Satan Andy, cuz he's . . . well, evil & he wanted Bethenny to earn that million bucks he's throwing at her.  So this was his way of tweaking at her.  Anyhoo, what can Kelly really do -- other than shaking her head & smiling like the simpleton she is?  Oh, yeah, she can say "amazing" 50 billion times.

Edited April 22, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[QuinnM]

 

OK, so the heck why was Kelly there?  I'm sure it had absolutely nothing to do with Luann.  This was totally a producer setup, probably created by Satan Andy, cuz he's . . . well, evil & he wanted Bethenny to earn that million bucks he's throwing at her.  So this was his way of tweaking at her.  Anyhoo, what can Kelly really do -- other than shaking her head & smiling like the simpleton she is?

I was fascinated by B staying at the bar and making Lu come to her.  She then said it was poor manners.  Lu apologized and then B went over and filmed without incident.  What the producers wanted isn't happen because B found a way around it.  She didn't come to the table and in front of Kelley go all apeshit.  Then there was be a big fight and someone would stomp out.

 

I wonder if this is where the rumors about B being a diva are coming from.  She wouldn't pretend to read a certain magazine so that X could come up and say something was one of the big rumors.  So she won't go sit at a table with Kelley.  She will shut the Countess up and then go sit at a table with Kelley.

 

It's going to be an interesting season.

[LilaFowler]

Dorinda is gross.  She belongs on Jersey, not NYC.

[ghoulina]

Oh..........................my............................God.  That lunch was horrendous.  Run away dude, run away.  What is more rude:  Him talking on the phone about business, quietly, at lunch?  Her screeching loudly about him and the phone and then gets on the line with caller?

 

That's the crux of it right there. Personally, I'm kind of uptight about the cellphone thing, and I would find it very rude to answer it at the table like that. However, she just made the situation ten times worse by freaking out about it. She could have simply gave him a knowing look, and then later calmly reminded him that she would prefer he not take calls while they're on a date. If it needs to get to THAT level (where she's yelling about it), do it at home. 

[Cherrio]

I normally never throw around medical/mental health labels, but in Luann's case, she has to be in the top 5 of world class passive aggressive people. Almost every sentence that comes out of her mouth.

                She was SO hurt by Ramona in seasons past, went on and on and on about it.        So, she HAS to tell Ramona about Mario being on dating sites.

Ramona was clearly wrong , but she apologized and meant it sincerely.    But Luann went and did exactly what she claimed hurt her so badly right back to Ramona.

            Ramona is no prize, but Luann is a sneaky, classless bitch. She isn't very bright either.

 I still remember than elementary school level plan she came up with , along with Peppy La Pew to try and diss Ramona's new wine at the mystery tasting.

              Oh and her claim on WWHL about giving everything to charity?      I also remember when she made a comment to Jill about not wanting to donate copies of her dumb song for the goody bag. She said, well we can't give them away.    What do you think charity is you dumbass?

[ScoobieDoobs]

You know, in the thread for the last ep, I mentioned noticing a tinge of jealousy from Heather about the zillions Bethenny has made from SkinnyGirl.  It's only natural really.  Cuz Heather's business is never gonna realize such heights & she knows it.  And as I said, it's just a bit of jealousy, nothing overwhelming, in a way that would make her especially nasty to Bethenny.  I thought she was merely teasing her a bit, with her saying B should buy Lu a car for suggesting the SG name, which we saw she didn't do anyway.

 

Heather's attitude toward Bethenny isn't so bothersome & is mostly understandable.  But what exactly is Bethenny's problem with Heather?  I'm not getting it & I don't much care for it.  B is showing her true stripes.  That she is, at her core, an extremely nasty woman, who doesn't get along well with people she has no use for.  I hate the way she is being so short, curt & rude to Heather -- for pretty much no reason.  It's unprovoked.  Clearly, Heather annoys her.  But why?  Maybe cuz out of this bunch, Heather is really the only hard-working successful businesswoman there.  Could B be threatened by that?  Could be, could be.  

 

I'm not saying Bethenny doesn't & hasn't worked hard.  But it hasn't been in the same way as Heather.  I think Heather has had it much, much tougher & has had to work much harder.  And B doesn't wanna acknowledge that she got extremely lucky with the Jim Beam deal.  Heather still has to work very hard.  B, on the other hand, can spend her days, wasting her time, riding around all day in a limo, snarled in horrible mid-day, midtown traffic.  I'd bet Heather can't afford to do that.

Edited April 22, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[QuinnM]

 

That is Taylor Swift's building they showed when they captioned Bethennys apartment in Soho. Sorry. Sorry.

I just really heart Taylor Swift. And...bethenny gets to live right by her, maybe in the same building. The " two apts together?" That's likely Swifts.

Oh, oh, this is fun.  I see three buildings in the apartment shot.  Is it the short one in the middle.  Which is Taylor's?  I'm so excited.  On the other hand Bravo has misdirected me before but I'm willing to believe this.

[Mozelle]

Ugh.  If Heather gets exiled to the Kristen ghetto I'm going to be major league bummed.  I know she can be bossy, I know she can't ever keep her mouth shut, but shoot, no one is perfect, and I like Heather.

 

Bethenny is getting on my nerves in this go-round - I agree with the posters who say that she clearly thinks she is Above It All, able to dictate what will and will not be discussed (hey, she's like Kim Richards, but with a Skinnygirl logo instead of an attack pit bull!).  But I also admit that no one can give talking heads like she can.  Her Ramona and the dress story, plus her "That's so 2000 and who cares" were both excellent.  Here's a thought:  don't cast Bethenny on the show, just have her watch the episodes before they air and provide running commentary.  

 

I feel you on Heather. I quite like her. Regarding the women who have been saying slick things about her on Twitter--

 

Sonja is still pissed because she looked absolutely ridiculous over the toaster oven deal. Like Kim Richards, Sonja will deflect. I have no doubt in my mind that she has made her fairy tale toaster about Heather not doing right by her in the photo shoot debacle and not about her own inability to sit down and do the work.

 

Bethenny is just as talkative as Heather and fashions herself as knowing everything about everything. Of course she would butt heads with Heather, a woman who is also talkative and will let you know that she knows X, Y, and Z. It wasn't lost on me in this episode that Bethenny pointed out she was the only woman present while doing her Soho home walk-through. Bethenny likes being the Alpha woman in a group of men; she likes being likened to having balls. She thinks being likened to a man in that way is the end all be all. 

 

LuAnn--Well, LuAnn doesn't take kindly to anyone making comments about who she chooses to date or sleep with. So, I can totally see her holding a grudge about whatever the argument is over strange men in the house.

Edited April 22, 2015 by Mozelle

[car54]

I know the women all know Bethenny's history because it's in the press, but if she is going to be so impatient and abrupt, the smart thing she should have done was to somehow have a bit of a sit-down with some of them and to express that she's had several years of non-stop stress over her divorce, and she's at the end of her rope, so that they have some sympathy--most of them have been through it.   To just appear--and it's a new group and a whole different dynamic--and be that cold and short with people is not the way to do it.    My sense is adding filming is good for business exposure, and to sell her books that are just out, but she seems like she's at the end of her rope.   She's let this thing run on for way too long.  If they've agreed upon the custody stuff she needs to write whatever size check Jason needs to make him go away--she's given up years of her life fighting over it.  Give him the damn apartment so Bryn has a nice place to live when she's with him--he lived in a tiny place before they were married.
I'm totally psyched for Bethenny going to Sonja's house and meeting the interns and trying to get Sonja "organized".   That will be worth the price of admission.

[izabella]

Sonja is still pissed because she looked absolutely ridiculous over the toaster oven deal.

 

I just about died laughing when the women at Bethenny's brunch asked her if she had a Skinny Girl toaster oven, and that Sonja would shit a brick of Beth came out with one.  

[ScoobieDoobs]

They used the word "delusional" in ref. to Sonja - yes, indeedy!

 

 

I was not digging that convo.  None of them came off well.  Even Bethenny.  We get it, Heather.  We saw your interactions & what you did with (& for) Sonja.  No need to repeat the obvious.  It just seems rather mean to me.  We know Sonja is delusional.  Er, duh.  I was annoyed by B, actually.  She wasn't disturbed by the meanness of Lu & Heather publicly denigrating Sonja.  That wasn't what bothered Bethenny at all.  She just didn't want to be told what to think by those 2.  

 

I was struck by how nasty they all are.  Seems like we're being reminded of this sad fact over & over & over again this season, eh?  And yeah, as mentioned several times above, Lu is NOT a nice woman -- at all.  Her nastiness is mostly indirect & can come out in quick flashes.  In any case, it can be very, very unpleasant.  

 

Lu def has a score to settle with both Moaner & Sonja & she is getting an awful lot of digs in to both of them.  It's just so nasty.  Her comments on Mario were horrible.  She didn't need to go there.  It was pretty vile.  She was sticking the knife in Moaner hard, hard, hard.  Blech.  I say Lu is showing her true colors.  Remember that scene with Beth saying Lu was a snake?  B was dead on then & it still holds true.

Edited April 22, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[NoWhammies]

There's a tactful way to say 'I don't want to talk about this', but Bethenny has yet to figure that out.

 

Perhaps Kim Richards could help her with this. 

[ButterQueen]

Oh..........................my............................God.  That lunch was horrendous.  Run away dude, run away.  What is more rude:  Him talking on the phone about business, quietly, at lunch?  Her screeching loudly about him and the phone and then gets on the line with caller?

 

I caught on Stoopid Housewives (I'm pretty sure) that a blind item of skinny housewife popping pill = Bethenny.

Hey jumper sage,

Could you elaborate on the Bethenny comment? I'm foggy today.

Yummie Tummie is showing up in lots of stores like Macy 's. I like Heather's products and she's my fave on this franchise.

[WireWrap]

You know, in the thread for the last ep, I mentioned noticing a tinge of jealousy from Heather about the zillions Bethenny has made from SkinnyGirl.  It's only natural really.  Cuz Heather's business is never gonna realize such heights & she knows it.  And as I said, it's just a bit of jealousy, nothing overwhelming, in a way that would make her especially nasty to Bethenny.  I thought she was merely teasing her a bit, with her saying B should buy Lu a car for suggesting the SG name, which we saw she didn't do anyway.

 

Heather's attitude toward Bethenny isn't so bothersome & is mostly understandable.  But what exactly is Bethenny's problem with Heather?  I'm not getting it & I don't much care for it.  B is showing her true stripes.  That she is, at her core, an extremely nasty woman, who doesn't get along well with people she has no use for.  I hate the way she is being so short, curt & rude to Heather -- for pretty much no reason.  It's unprovoked.  Clearly, Heather annoys her.  But why?  Maybe cuz out of this bunch, Heather is really the only hard-working successful businesswoman there.  Could B be threatened by that?  Could be, could be.  

 

I'm not saying Bethenny doesn't & hasn't worked hard.  But it hasn't been in the same way as Heather.  I think Heather has had it much, much tougher & has had to work much harder.  And B doesn't wanna acknowledge that she got extremely lucky with the Jim Beam deal.  Heather still has to work very hard.  B, on the other hand, can spend her days, wasting her time, riding around all day in a limo, snarled in horrible mid-day, midtown traffic.  I'd bet Heather can't afford to do that.

IMO, Bethenny is threatened by Heather because Heather became successful with her "Yummy Tummy" line before joining the show, whereas Bethenny became successful because of the show. Had Bethenny not done the NYHW/BEA show, I am not sure that JB would have bought her SG mix, or that her SG would have even gotten of the ground at all. Everything associated with Bethenny's "business" success is a direct result of her being on a Bravo show, not to say that she hasn't worked hard but not at the same level of Heather.  JMO

[SCS]

 

I hope the issue comes up at the reunion, I am dying to hear Ramona's explanation of the incident , LMAO

 

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Something like this:

"The dress? Well, Andy, I'm going to tell you the truth (looks up at the ceiling). This is the truth, Andy. Something got spilled on me and I put on the first thing available. After the segment (looks down and her foot and checks her pedicure) I was in a hurry. It was a busy day, I had a full schedule and a million things to do. I'm a very busy woman, Andy, always on the go and sometimes it gets to be too much (looks over the heads of the women on the sofa across from her). So, anyway, Andy, after we were done taping, I rushed back to wardrobe and took the dress off. Somehow it was put into a garment bag--I don't know how it was put into a garment bag-- grabbed all my stuff and left. Did I mention how busy I am (adjusts her dress around the hips and shuffles in her seat).

Then, when we were driving to my next meeting, Andy, I rolled down the windows because it was stuffy and I don't like it when it's stuffy and the bag blew out!! I mean, I thought the bag blew out. Anyway, some bag blew out. And because I'm a very busy and strong and fearless businesswoman I went onto my next meeting and forgot about it. (Widens her eyes Ramona-style). I took everything upstairs that night and had some Pinot and then went to dinner because I have to eat dinner. But not in Brooklyn. (Gazes at a distant horizon listening to music only she and the voices in her head hear). Months later I found the dress in my closet and forgot it came from the show. That's the truth, Andy. It's not a big thing. It's funny. It's funny!! IT'S FUUUUUUNEEEEEEE!!!!

[TexasGal]

Something like this:

 

Brilliant!!  The only thing I'd add, is at the very end, "What is the big deal?  I mean, REALLY, what is the BIG DEAL?"

[SCS]

I thought the same thing, nobody ate a thing.

I love that on Shas of Sunset, there is always a spread of food in every scene. And they eat it lol.

My take is the HWs don't want to smudge their lip gloss or deal with potential food in their teeth while on camera.

[archer1267]

Carole has always made those snarky little comments about the other women. Just one reason I highly dislike her.

 

Just an aside, but I've been watching S6 and Heather called Amanda (Aviva's weird hanger-on in the first few episodes) fat. I re-wound a couple of times because Heather didn't seem like the type of woman who'd call another woman "fat" out of anger (especially considering that imperfect bodies are her target market, momma!). She said, "Come get me, big fat girl." Oooh.

 

But what exactly is Bethenny's problem with Heather?  I'm not getting it & I don't much care for it.  B is showing her true stripes.

 

I think Bethenny is just competitive with her because they are both entrepreneurs, and more specifically, entrepreneurs behind companies that cater to weight-conscious women. I don't see her being competitive with the other women, outside of Ramona (and Ramona is also an entrepreneur). That's why Bethenny needed to make the dis about Heather's TV appearance and how, since it didn't involve actual venture capital, it was trivial.

 

I hope Heather isn't jealous of B. Not that it's a competition, but very few start-ups make that kind of "f*ck you" money, and Heather seems to be doing just fine. She has the funds for her son to receive the best medical care, she has a great weekend home, and quite possibly the best, most supportive husband I've ever seen on a RH franchise. (I don't care if he lacks the "charisma" that Josh and Mario have, per Ramona.) That alone is everything. Holla!

Edited April 22, 2015 by archer1267

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[ScoobieDoobs]

I just about died laughing when the women at Bethenny's brunch asked her if she had a Skinny Girl toaster oven, and that Sonja would shit a brick of Beth came out with one.

 

 

OMG!  I totally missed that!  See, this is why I have to watch these eps at least 10 times.  :-)

 

I was fascinated by B staying at the bar and making Lu come to her.  She then said it was poor manners.  Lu apologized and then B went over and filmed without incident.  What the producers wanted isn't happen because B found a way around it.  She didn't come to the table and in front of Kelley go all apeshit.  Then there was be a big fight and someone would stomp out.

 

I wonder if this is where the rumors about B being a diva are coming from.  She wouldn't pretend to read a certain magazine so that X could come up and say something was one of the big rumors.  So she won't go sit at a table with Kelley.  She will shut the Countess up and then go sit at a table with Kelley.

 

 

I'm probably alone here on this, but I miss Alex's takes on this show.  She gave her behind-the-scenes viewpoint on what was probably going on with producer intervention.  Here's my theory on what was going on in the Kelly scene.  Keep in mind, Lu & Beth are at completely different points, as to what they're willing to do for the show.  Lu needs the Bravo dough.  Make no mistake on that.  If the producers tell her to do something, she'll do whatever they tell her to.  Beth, on the other hand?  She's a gazillionaire now.  She ain't gonna play fake shit.  And she probably told Satan Andy going into this season, the million bucks ain't gonna motivate her into playing fake shit.

 

So the producers probably told Lu, this is the deal, you invited Kelly along & stick with that story, no matter what Bethenny does & try to get her to interact with Kelly.  So was B telling us how she really feels about Kelly?  That she's OK with her now?  Um, sorta.  I don't think she thinks much about Kelly one way or another anymore.  But I'm sure she remembers the vile things Kelly said to her before & isn't thrilled with her either.  She also knows that to interact with Kelly, she'd have to be fake-nice to her, which she'd prefer not to do.  And she's super-rich now & feels like she doesn't wanna have to do shit she doesn't wanna do.  So why bother?

 

I also think B smelled a producer-driven fake setup & just didn't wanna take the bait.  And I suspect she was pissed at Lu for going in with the producers for this fake setup.  I would kinda luv it if B once again says how Lu is a snake.  Cuz she really is a fucking snake.

Edited April 22, 2015 by ScoobieDoobs

[mostlylurking]

I know it's just a play on words at this point, but I find it hilarious that only two of these women are even wives, let alone housewives.

[Cheetosandchoc]

That's the crux of it right there. Personally, I'm kind of uptight about the cellphone thing, and I would find it very rude to answer it at the table like that. However, she just made the situation ten times worse by freaking out about it. She could have simply gave him a knowing look, and then later calmly reminded him that she would prefer he not take calls while they're on a date. If it needs to get to THAT level (where she's yelling about it), do it at home. 

 

       It was so obnoxious. I would never o that to my husband while he is on the phone for business. That is so disrespectful. Say something after, in a tactful manner if you want to be taken seriously. Shrilling at him while he is on the phone accomplishes nothing. That's a great start to a nice lunch.

 

      Kelly and her weird facial expressions and body language! WTF I really don't know what to make of it. I don't think I could have a serious conversation with her.

 

IO am sure I am in the minority, but I thought Sonja was gross and skeevy in that bar. I got the same feeling I would get watching a lecherous old man ogleing a young woman....here honey sit next to me. I know free will and all but it felt creepy. Countess Lu is not getting a pass either. Its not the age difference as much as the objectifying. It didn't sit well with me.

[LilaFowler]

Heather's attitude toward Bethenny isn't so bothersome & is mostly understandable.  But what exactly is Bethenny's problem with Heather?  I'm not getting it & I don't much care for it.  B is showing her true stripes.  That she is, at her core, an extremely nasty woman, who doesn't get along well with people she has no use for.  I hate the way she is being so short, curt & rude to Heather -- for pretty much no reason.  It's unprovoked.  Clearly, Heather annoys her.  But why?  Maybe cuz out of this bunch, Heather is really the only hard-working successful businesswoman there.  Could B be threatened by that?  Could be, could be. 

When Heather was at lunch and mentioned that she'd been on MSNBC for some business-related thing, you could almost see Bethenny's little green monster start to spit.  She didn't get invited to the do show and she is no doubt wondering why that is.  Of course she tries to drag it, which just made her look petty and small. 

 

Heather also seems to have some clout.  She worked for Diddy for a long time, and she knows a lot of people.  Bethenny just seems to burn bridges and sell cheap, disgusting liquor.  The woman doesn't have any friends and alienates everyone.  Heather has a loving family.

Edited April 22, 2015 by LilaFowler

[thesupremediva1]

Heather, Kristen, and Carole belong on a different show. It feels like two shows meshed together, and not in a good way.

 

Sorry, 8 ho'wives is too many. Dorinda, like her or not, is the only who I feel truly fits in with the old guard of Beth, Ramona, and Lu.

 

I think Heather is just, smartly, trying keep herself relevant by getting into it with Bethenny. B brings the drama, so that's where you want to go for screentime. She's already butted heads with Ramona and Sonja, so time to move on.

 

Lu really is a snake. I never want to see Kelly again either, and she's only on my TV screen. I'd run if I saw her in person. I'll just never forget Scary Island.

 

Ramona, Lu, and Sonja look amazing. Bethenny and Carole need to gain a few pounds each. They're looking underfed. I was especially annoyed at Carole's comment that Ramona would never fit into one of her dresses. I guess I'm just a Ramona apologist this season. Seeing those family pics of her and Mario and Avery is devastating. 25 years is nothing you can sweep under the carpet. It's truly sad. I wish her the best.

 

B's Hamptons House was gorgeous. I'd never leave there.

Edited April 22, 2015 by thesupremediva1

[Sage47]

I have to admit that Ramona got to me in her TH when she was tearing up and saying how hard Mario's cheating has been on her, especially the public part of it, "the humiliation". Very sad.

 

Someone hose Sonja down. She can never sit and wait for a man (boy) to come to her, instead she pounces immediately. Lu gets laid constantly without having to resort to Sonja's desperate tactics. Take lessons Sexy J.

[missy jo]

Um, who is Bethenny to dictate what everyone else is allowed to talk about? Meanwhile she "coke-talks" at a rate that sounds like she's had an 8-ball and a bottle of Adderall.

Bethenny to Heather: "I don't care. That doesn't interest me." Pause a minute, and imagine someone saying that to HER. How well do you think that would go over?

 

 

 Rhetorica I assume that was directed to me.

 

 

No, absolutely not! It was entirely "rhetorical," LOL!

[rho]

Drink every time LuAnn says 'cool' I never noticed how often she said it but after the clip they keep showing with her sunglasses on, I can't ignore it.

 

And Bethenny is a real bitter bitch this year. I used to like her quips but they feel so forced now, like she has to assume that role because she was so well-known for it before. I mean, Heather bored me too with her Ramona diatribe. No one cares and Ramona's a big enough girl she can stand up for herself. Plus, didn't she watch when Alex tried to speak for B? Messengers aren't often received well on the show. And I'll admit I've often thought that someone's story was boring as hell, but there's a much nicer way for B to say that. Am I an asshole for saying her mean girl routine isn't endearing now that she's rich? When she was poor, that's all she had. Now she's got loads of money, pretending she's homeless when she owns three homes and I can't take the sourpuss.

[Pattycake2]

I suspect that when the producers brought back LuAnn, it was with the condition that she be their voice and number one shit stirrer.  It was LuAnn who said they should go to both brunches.  LuAnn who "ran into" Kelly.  LuAnn who brought up the internet dating sites and the Moroccan psychic - cue the video.  

[OrientalAmish]

Any one else remember that once upon a long time ago, there was a psychic reading done for the girls + it was predicted that Mario was or will be unfaithful + Ramona thought it was BS? Look where we are now.... I think LuAnn translated for the psychic because she didn't speak English.... Did that actually happen or did I hallicinuate it?

 

And, Heather, please stop saying "Holla!" in your intro tagline.... Just because you worked for P.Duddy a long time ago doesn't allow you to say that....;-x

Edited April 22, 2015 by OrientalAmish

[Pattycake2]

And, yeah, I agreed that Bethenny is being unnecessarily abrasive.