S19.E04: Week 4

[Tara Ariano]

Chris spends the day with eight ladies at a beach. Meanwhile, Chris' three sisters interview the other seven bachelorettes at the mansion and reward one lucky gal with a one-on-one date with Chris to attend a concert and a screening of "Cinderella." Later, Chris takes six women to San Francisco for a mud run in wedding dresses.

Edited January 23, 2015 by OnceSane
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[Armchair Critic]

Virgin Ashley is so annoying and childish, please make it stop.

[Stella MD]

Laughed out loud at Virgin Ashley moping around in her "princess dress" in front of a half-wilted rose, while eating an ear of corn (guess they had to do something with all the ears they shucked last time). All that was missing was the stereotypical "wah, waah" noise. 

[Kendra143]

I wonder how the sisters will feel when they find out

they awarded a date to a woman with a porno past??? Well lots of naked pictures on the Internet anyway!!

Yikes... That would be interesting conversation at After the Final Rose.

 

[Mod note: added spoiler tags out of an abundance of caution]

Edited January 27, 2015 by Rhondinella
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[Armchair Critic]

If Chris gets rid of Jillian, then he needs to get rid of the crazy drunk blonde (can't be bothered to learn her name)

[Stella MD]

Oh for crying out loud. Virgin Ashley: "I have to tell him, I have to tell him, I have to tell him - OH NO, why did I tell him?!?" To quote Andi: STAAAP it.

 

Honey, when even Mackenzie and your other friend who's dumber than a bag of hair (Megan?) stop using their boobs to predict the weather long enough to tell you you're being an immature idiot, it's time to check yourself. Seriously.

[FlyingEgret]

I wonder how the sisters will feel when they

find out they awarded a date to a woman with a porno past??? Well lots of naked pictures on the Internet anyway!!

Yikes... That would be interesting conversation at After the Final Rose.

 

I thought it was a perfect fit for (in a sarcastic way) for Jade to get the Disney Princess date. 

Of course he did say she was beautiful on the inside too so maybe he had seen some of her work...

 

[Mod note: Added spoiler tags out of an abundance of caution]

Edited January 27, 2015 by Rhondinella
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[Armchair Critic]

UH OH, Chris almost pulled a Ben Flajnik "tread lightly" on Britt. Big red flag that Chris does not like to be questioned.

[lulee]

I'll guess that Jillian's going to get burned on social media called a "dude," etc., but I feel bad for my hometown girl because from what my mom said, Jillian's mom wasn't really in the picture after her parents divorced. So maybe she's a tomboy as a result of being raised by her dad.

Edited January 27, 2015 by lulee

[reggiejax]

If I didn't already love Ashley S, I would after that. She is the greatest. 

[jb0495]

Who was the brunette that went home in the red shirt? She just left without a word. Did she get ANY airtime this season? I don't know who Samantha is either.

[Nedsdag]

Here's what I got out of tonight's show:

 

Virgin, naked, sisters, rude, virgin, Cinderella, handsome, prince, virgin, mud, fitness, virgin, rose, virgin.

 

That is all.

[bosawks]

I don't remember Prince Charming being quite so sweaty.

[Lamb18]

When they were camping, I half expected Ashley to say "Here kitty, kitty!" and a raccoon coming running into the tent. I can't tell if Ashley I is for real or not. She's 26 years old but acts emotionally ten years younger. I can't help wondering if she's a plant who's putting it on to add a little drama. Poor Chris on that date with Jillian. You could see him drifting away mentally. She was hard to understand, too.

 

My burning question of the evening: did Whitney's little chain make it through the mud run? Before the race I noticed this little chain around her neck - very fine and fragile-looking - and I was hoping she took it off before the race started, otherwise it could snap and get lost in the mud. I didn't see it around her neck after the race. Also, I recognized one of the bass players in the orchestra during Jade's date. I'll have to rewatch to make sure.

 

Speaking of

Jade, I thought her past was a spoiler, but I see it's not so . . . did anyone notice the cut to Jade talking to Chris after Ashley I was talking about her or the girls being promiscuous and wild?

Edited January 27, 2015 by Rhondinella
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[coconutcookie]

Did anyone notice the round patch on Jade's back?  Guess a tattoo in the middle of her upper back wouldn't go with the princess theme.  Jade is so pretty and wholesome looking. 

I'm surprised she doesn't just model clothes.

Edited January 27, 2015 by Rhondinella
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[JudyObscure]

That was Nikki (in the red shirt) who has only said two words.  Two more words than Samantha who I'm beginning to think doesn't speak English.

 

Unlike Jillian who can talk for hours without taking a breath. I hope she learned some things  from being on the show. Like men don't want to hear your work out details  and women don't want to feel your butt.

 

Britt to Chris:  "I heard Kaitlyn took off her clothes at the lake and you gave her a rose thereby validating her bad behavior!"

Chris:  "Er, uhh, werp, er humph, er, she was, uh, not that, integr, hum."

            "I'm glad we had this conversation."

 

The sisters were sweet. 

If I hadn't heard anything

I might have picked Jade, too.  I'm just glad they didn't pick Ashley so we got to see the meltdown of jealousy.  I thought one looked just like Whitney.

 

I loved Ashley's virginity reveal.  After weeks of acting like it was the biggest news ever, Becca casually says, "Oh yeah, me too."  Hah!

Edited January 27, 2015 by Rhondinella
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[dbell1]

I felt my brain cells dying tonight while watching.

Kardashvirgin needs to go home. She's probably scared off the normal men in her hometown.

Bye muscles. I was very sad that the black butt box didn't appear as she was getting into the elevator.

[Superpole2000]

Becca impressed me with her reserved confidence and this slightly witty line about Jillian: "She should have gotten two dates, actually, she beat us so bad."

 

Everyone else seems to have at least one obvious flaw: Megan cannot put two sentences together without losing her train of thought, Ashley is a drama queen, Mackenzie is obsessed with Martians, Kaitlyn has weird arm tattoos, Kelsey is a two-face in both looks and personality, Carly does everything in the most uncool manner, Britt projects a phony/acting vibe, Whitney's voice is an acquired taste, Jade is just full-on dull (surprising), and I'm not sure Samantha speaks English since they have yet to show her saying anything all season long. By default, Becca is the perfect choice.

 

Chris really cannot speak off script. His response to Britt's gossip-fueled interrogation (which is just a stupid thing to do, but she needed her camera time) barely qualified as broken English. Not even Juan Pablo struggled this much.

[JenE4]

I fell for the editing yet again. Didn't the previews make it seem like Chris had sex or at least more than kissing with someone in the tent and Kelsey was all aghast over it? And it turns out that she's just upset over the muddy lake. Oh, yeah, I almost forgot the dirty girls jumping in the dirty lake. Between this date and the previews, Kelsey is taking a turn for the worst in my esteem.

Ashley attempting to tell Chris that she's a virgin and that he can probe that later. Bwha-ha-ha! I'm 12. But what a tremendous difference between her and the other virgin, Becca. Ashley I is just an immature wreck. Crying over not getting the Cinderella date and getting dressed up anyway to eat her sad ear of corn. Even my 6-year-old daughter would have more decorum and understanding about not getting the princess date. Thank god Chris didn't show up with a glass slipper, or Ashley would have gotten all wicked stepsister up in the mansion.

And Jade the wholesome, girl next door from Nebraska.

Sigh. Let's just leave it as that so as to not go all spoiler alert over her actual career. She did pull it off though!

And they seemed to talk about actual important things.

...Unlike Jillian who seemed to just talk AT Chris. That was funny how he was saying that her words were floating over him and all he could think about was unicorns or something like that.

Carly's commentary on the mud run was pretty funny. I can see how the sense of humor runs in her family. I think this is the first episode that I remembered who she was.

I have no idea who the girl with the dark hair was who left. But I think that I almost know everyone now. Of course, I'm sure that you ladies (and guys if we have any in this group) will comment on so-and-so and I'll be all who the hell is that? But anyway, did Juelia get a special walk out just because she has a sob story? No tears from Pomegranate Ashley, who does not have human emotions. I wish I remembered what she said at the camp out--something about Chris retaining the thought that she cares about him. Whatever it was, the look on his face was priceless. Yet, he really doesn't know how to actually respond to these women. Between that scene and Britt confronting him and sending Jillian home and Ashley trying to tell him that she's inexperienced, Chris has a whole lot of incomprehensible hemming and hawing.

ETA: There's a Samantha? Yeah, I don't know everyone yet after all! Maybe next week!

Edited January 27, 2015 by Rhondinella
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[KR Vermont]

He sent the wrong Ashley home! Ashley S was a hoot in this ep, figuratively and literally, haha. Chris' facial expressions when she was talking one-on-one with him on the camping date were hilarious, only to be outdone by her send-off after getting booted at the rose ceremony.

 

Ashley I got the fool's edit tonight and I now loathe her with the heat of a thousand suns and all that jazz. Her calling Kelsey "fake" was rich. pfft. She is soooo high school, I just can't--and I don't see that Chris could, either, the maturity gap is huge. I can't picture her fishing and camping and living in Iowa etc.

Edited January 27, 2015 by KR Vermont

[Adeejay]

After four weeks, the only ladies I know are Britt, Ashley I, Kaitlyn and Mackenzie.  Based on her behavior, I'm having a hard time believing Ashley I is really a virgin. 

[lulee]

That rose ceremony was hard to follow. Who got sent home besides Juelia and FunAshley?

[KR Vermont]

Carly, regarding Ashley I: "her mouth is not a virgin" :D

Snarky Carly and I might get along, heh.

[PhilW]

There's a very simple reason why Samantha has had almost no screen time thus far (and Nikki before she went home): they are smart, kind, polite, level-headed, emotionally mature, not crazy, not alcoholic, not toxic towards other women, and not prone to acting like a slut on national television. In other words, they are perfectly normal and therefore make for terrible television. The editors surely have tons of tape of them talking to Chris, hanging out around the house, etc. But it's boring, and so they don't air it.

 

It kills me every season when a few of these normal women are totally ignored by the editors, prompting viewers to get snarky about it...Who is that girl? Is she mute? Does she not speak English? To make it this far (and to make it to the final 11 and counting for Samantha), they must have been doing something right, even if the editors think they're boring.

Edited January 27, 2015 by PhilW

[backformore]

Ashley-the-virgin: I have to find way to break out of my shyness. (Rips off her top and jumps into the water)

[Mu Shu]

I swear I heard Chris say some shit about "Jade and I's date". After hearing his incomprehensible babbling with Britt , I'm not sure he was even speaking English, so it's hard to say.

Kaitlin is auditioning for the B-ette so hard. Eff that noise. I want Ashley I. What a maroon.

Cinderella?? Are we five now? Lame for thirty year olds to even pretend to plug it.

[backformore]

Anyone else crack up when Jade said, about meeting with the sisters, "maybe they thought I was a little too shy?  I have such a hard time warming up to people"?

 

And at the campout -  who was it who said "we're the luckiest women in America right now!"   I LOVED Kelsey in that moment with her "really?" 

 

What's so lucky about camping?

Edited January 27, 2015 by backformore

[thejuicer]

The entire conversation Chris had with Britt was one giant red flag. He reminded me of every controlling, chauvinistic, arrogant asshole I have ever had the pleasure of dating. How dare she even think of questioning anything he did! She asked a very fair question - it may have "put him on the spot" but as a man who signed up for this show he is accountable to answer questions that the women may have. The abrupt getting up was icing on the cake. And this is him on his best behaviour trying to impress you. Imagine him ten years, 3 kids, and a mortgage later. RUN. BRITT. RUN.

[Rainsong]

Operating from memory from the live episode rather than the DVR...

 

Don't look now but the producers are having more than a bit of buyer's remorse with their big farmin' hunk because despite the city-boy polish he really is a one-stoplight-town kinda guy i.e. quite dull.  Designer stubble is one thing; half a beard is another.  Time for a shave and start the process over, brother.

 

Chris, you keep saying you are here to find a wife.  Do you need someone to draw you a picture to explain that finding said wife requires you to take the initiative in getting to know them and spending as many quiet moments - including the unscripted ones - with them as you can?  I hate to keep quoting from the Book of Womack but our man Brad worked diligently to get each lady on her own for, er, intensive evaluation sessions.

 

The dates, such as they are, are a sign that the produces care less about matchmaking and more about distracting all concerned from the task at hand.  The girls who have a battle plan - Kelsey, Britt, Whitney and probably Kaitlyn - are openly frustrated with the locations and activities being anything but romantic either in a group setting or one-on-one.  There is no wind-down session after therefore no chance for a quick chat or something more.  Chris seems unwilling to learn his lines and treat the winner as someone special in front of her peers.  Memo to Chris:  the losing girls are keeping a close watch on you even if they are going home shortly.  They also want to assess how you treat a mate even if it's not them, at least temporarily.

 

At the risk of playing the broken record entitled What The Teaser Reel Revealed...despite the long minutes (it only seemed like hours) devoted to The Virgin Monologues Starring Ashley Iaconetti, we already know that she and her crooked, unconvincing acrylic nails will be on a future episode as she cries and pouts - what else? - while castigating Chris over what will almost certainly be a trifling matter.  Given her crying jag count to date, the next tantrum will come as no surprise.  After boring us all to death with tales of her purity, the look on Ashley I's face was priceless when Becca, in the most drama-free manner possible, revealed that she herself was a virgin.  Suddenly the unique trait wasn't so unique but that, predictably, couldn't convince Ashley that she shouldn't continue to be the center of everyone's attention.

 

Ashley S is on the wrong side of the wall of a mental hospital.  Someone please tell the producers that 'Network' was and is supposed to be a satire, not an instructional video on broadcasting someone in the throes of neurosis or psychosis.

 

Fair play Samantha...you have kept yourself to yourself but the hair, the eyes and swimsuit figure have you hanging in there.  It's hard to recall any Bachelor having less interaction, even by chance, with a B/ette and the B/ette staying in the game so late.

 

The Teaser Reel also spoiled, for the keen-eyed viewer, Jade's selection as the Cinderella date.  Chris' body language is speaking very loudly here; he hunkers down in his seat and cranes his neck to match the shortish Jade's eye level when both are seated.  She's attractive but hardly a knockout even with the princess treatment.  What's the point of having them learn/perform dance steps when their little platform is the size of a manhole cover?

 

Jade is also of the Corn Belt - which Chris obviously finds comforting - and a vibe similar to Sean-Catherine is noticeable here.  Sean-Catherine were much more tactile and literally intertwined their bodies most of the time whereas Chris-Jade are hard-coded with Midwestern Reserve and aren't as touchy-feely.  Whatever positive qualities she may possess (and that poorly-masked back tattoo isn't one of them), her biggest advantage may be that Chris isn't intimidated by her.

 

Whitney doesn't appear to have an off switch.  She made the most of her date last week but this week she gave the sisters the same hard sell she gave Chris and they were evidently unimpressed.  Her hair was in an absolute state at the RC.

 

Britt, you're an actress.  Don't lose the plot as you appear to be doing, rapidly. Keep 'em mean, keep 'em keen.

 

I gave Megan too much credit last week and said her light bulb filament barely glows.  Turns out that bulb is completely empty i.e. a complete vacuum.  'I just lost my train of thought......'

 

Catch-22 for Juelia.  Her fate was sealed last week but that kind of revelation couldn't be bottled up for very long.

 

If it's a horse race, then Kaitlyn is on the rail and galloping comfortably into the back stretch.  We can debate the merits of getting your kit off on a group date (hilarious commentary by the disapproving Kelsey) but your group date rose count is unassailable.

 

Speaking of Kelsey, she was in another Catch-22.  Didn't like the setting and with good solid reason but she acted a part.  It annoyed the other girls but the oblivious Chris ate it up and that's all that matters.  The bug bite incident gave the pervy cameraman a chance to linger on her lower half, not that I'm complaining.  She also featured prominently in the Teaser Reel, in one instance scolding Chris and in another telling him 'I'm so glad I met you' although that brief clip seemed a bit ambiguous.  A confirmation?  A goodbye?  If I thought Samantha was staying long I'd reserve the dark horse title for Samantha but Kelsey looks to have a strong finishing kick.

 

Jillian, your departure was as predictable as the sunrise but the look of shock on your face was still good value.  The producers erred, of course, by sending an American Gladiator to an obstacle course date, white dress notwithstanding.  The train wreck of a dinner made it somewhat worthwhile despite the backdrop that was squandered.  She confirmed the worst suspicions about muscleheads being hypercompetitive, overcompensating narcissists.  Probably a decent person but even guys who are into fitness themselves aren't always into the pumped-up, brassy, I'll-kick-your-tail tomboys.

 

I have no spoiler knowledge but the F3-4 are dead easy to predict, possibly even the F2.

 

Episode 5 upcoming:  the Bachelor mansion is vacated and we still await the first deep & meaningful conversation between people angling to become life partners.

Edited January 27, 2015 by Rainsong

[truthaboutluv]

Yeah I was sure the getting up and walking away was some big editing fake out - apparently not so much. And then not only does he just walk away, he then proceeds to give some passive aggressive "if you question my intentions, you're free to leave" speech to the ladies. That was an Andi move right there - no one is allowed to question them ever. I only saw the last half hour and it was more than enough. Chris continues to be a complete bore with nothing interesting, funny or insightful to say.

 

Best line of the night was Chris, while Jillian is rattling on and on - "her mouth is just going a lot faster than my brain can process." Well okay then. I was so disappointed when it looked like Ashley S. was just going to leave with no parting words but I should have known better. They saved it for its own special moment and it was totally worth it. I will say I am surprised that Britt hasn't had a 1 on 1 yet considering how into her Chris was that first night. I would think he would have wanted to see if there was something more there by now. No wonder she's second guessing and feeling vulnerable.

Edited January 27, 2015 by truthaboutluv

[KR Vermont]

Mackenzie is pretty in straighter hair and it was as if she had a wee different persona then, too. More with-it or something.

 

Too bad Chris couldn't have called on the muck race runner up after he let Jillian go--it looked like they didn't even make it to the meal, just clean white dinner plates sitting there? Britt surely would've made for better company, and saved a beautiful San Francisco evening date.

 

Britt questioning why he's giving Kaitlyn roses is silly--maybe he's giving her a rose because he likes her and is feeling a connection, the same reasons he gave you, Britt, a rose. Just a hunch.

Chris was relatively eloquent about why he didn't appreciate his integrity and choices being questioned, when he was alone talking into the camera, but he couldn't string three coherent words together or look Britt in the eyes when sitting there in front of her, attempting to express that. I guess he couldn't remember his lines or see the cue cards.

[TheFinalRose]

I'm actually enjoying Kaitlyn (woohoo, I matched a name to a face!) And I so would have been just like Kelsey on that date, being dumped in the middle of nowhere for a whole day with a bunch of girls who try to alleviate the boredom by stripping. Then getting stung by a bee and not getting to go home and sleep in a bed or use a real bathroom.  I know she's being painted as a villian but i would have hated it too but then acted like it was OK when the cameras were on me. 

 

I thought Jade's Cinderella dress was not cute but I am totally up for as many shots of Robb Stark as the real Prince Charming that Disney/ABC wants to give me.  

[Katmai]

Chris is a jerk and a dumbass. I didn't feel any way about him until I tuned in to see his chat with Britt before the RC. He couldn't form sentences or carry on a conversation, couldn't utter any type of reply in a timely manner, had a stupid look on his face like he'd been busted about something he was guilty of...When he finally cobbled together some lame response, it sounded like he was lying and covering his ass, in addition to him jumping up and running away. If I'd been Britt, I would have self-eliminated at that point.

[Rhondinella]

Everyone, just a reminder that any information you may know about a contestant which has not been revealed ON THE SHOW yet is still a spoiler.  And, yes, I know it's been in the media forever, but people would still have to seek it out and it's not been talked about or shown on the show yet, so it is still a spoiler. 

 

And those who are spoiled know who and what I mean.  Please go to the spoiler thread to discuss that situation.  If you must do it here, put it in spoiler tags, please.

[KR Vermont]

I'm one of the ones who really REALLY wanted Arie or Nick or almost anyone other than Chris to be TB. I'm watching with the hope that he'll pleasantly surprise me, and though I haven't crossed a hater threshhold at this point, I want him to step it up already. Playing the likes of Red Rover on a desolate-looking lake/beach seems rather lame, but maybe it'd be more appealing if I was in my 20s and I really dug Chris. I could understand where Kelsey was coming from--I wouldn't have been woohooing over that and the overnight camping, especially coming back to the mansion to find I'd missed out on meeting his sisters (as well as potentially impressing them enough to be chosen for the one-on-one).

[TomGirl]

Every season most of the girls remind me if someone. I thnk Jade looks like Katie Holmes. Whitney looks like Jenna Elfman. Ashley S. looks like a young Jessica Lange. Any other thoughts?

[NikSac]

West Coaster here so I'm a little behind... but catching up. I think this has been one of the funniest Bachelor episodes in recent memory.

 

- I would've hated the camping date too - I've been known to go visit friends camping just for the campfire part then drive hours home just for a shower and a bed (fortunately my husband feels the same way about camping), but at least this time the girls were in bikinis at a campground and a lake, not wandering the streets of LA.

 

- Ashley I was cracking me up. Who freaking cares THAT MUCH about your virginity? (other than you)

 

- Ashley S was cracking me up in a whole different way. She is so whacked out, I find it intriguing trying to figure out what she's taking and/or thinking.

 

- I liked Jade. Yes, I also noticed that thing on her back - I was trying to figure out if it was a faded or semi-hidden tattoo, or some muted part of the dress.

 

- The wedding dress mud run thing - it was admittedly kind of fun to watch, but afterwards they couldn't afford to get them a real shower and change of clothes?

 

- bwahaha at pouting Ashley in her Princess Dress with the wilted rose while she chomped on corn. Oh and of course the invitation for him to probe that later.

 

- also bwahaha at Chris listening to Jillian and talking about seeing unicorns and dancing fairies.

 

- This part wasn't so much funny but his spiel to the ladies about "if you're not here for the right reasons you're free to leave" sounded SO MUCH like Andi's very similar speech that I was wondering if it was the same damn script.

[pitchy]

 . . .

- This part wasn't so much funny but his spiel to the ladies about "if you're not here for the right reasons you're free to leave" sounded SO MUCH like Andi's very similar speech that I was wondering if it was the same damn script.

 

With Andi, one person was asking about the nature of their own relationship (which at that point was one-sided) and how, while he felt he was 'in' -  that she was acting.  And of course it's her job to act interested in all of them.

With Chris, Britt was complaining about his affirmation of Kaitlin's apparently unseemly conduct and confronted him as to why he'd give a rose to another contestant she didn't approve of  and then added that the OTHERS were also asking this and questioning his intentions in general and what kind of guy he is.

 

She seemed to me like a jealous, confrontational girlfriend complaining about favoritism (rose) shown to a lesser contestent when there was no basis for her to act like a girlfriend he had to answer to.  Involving the others in questioning his *character* for approving of the Rosed One's actions.

 

  Add that her smile is always so pasted and fake, and I just didn't blame him for his defensiveness.

Eric Hill didn't say to Andi that the others were talking about her favoritism to one contestant and questioning her character or integrity because of it and demanding she answer his charges.

Edited January 28, 2015 by pitchy

[JudyObscure]

I didn't like either Britt or Chris in that confrontation.  There's something about Britt I don't like and maybe it's her assumption that she's a front runner or simply the clash of yellow skin and maroon lipstick, but it isn't her place to question another girl's rose.  I wouldn't be surprised if Chris was influenced by the sight of Kaitlyn's bare behind, but it could also be that he really likes her fun loving personality.  When Britt got the first impression rose nobody complained to Chris about his rewarding her behavior of overly long hugs and making out at the very first opportunity.

 

On the other hand Chris should have been able to articulate some of that.  It's not that hard to say, "You're wrong.  I wasn't judging anyone's behavior for good or bad, I just appreciated how Kaitlyn's upbeat personality made what could have been a long afternoon a little more fun."

 

Chris just doesn't have the charm, chat or cuteness for this part.  This is the third bad pick in a row for "The Bachelor" lead.  Heads should roll.

[clee39]

Ok, y'all, after Mackenzie's one-on-one date, most of you were quick to judge her harshly for asking Chris if he believes in aliens. I found that to be a really fun and almost smart first date question -the answer could provide hints at a person's thoughts about science and religion and imagination. But after she asked the women the same question last night, followed by her comment that the setting was a good place to be abducted, I freely admit I was wrong to think it was a thoughtful question. She really is just worried about interplanetary kidnappings.

What is with the lipstick colors??? Is it my tv?

[alexa]

This show is hilarious.  The things they get on camera of the girls saying, Chris' responses to the odd behavior, I could go on and on.  I think this show is genius at times the way they capture these moments!  I thought it was funny when Chris was trying to discuss what Ashley was trying to tell him, and I love the way he looks at the other Ashley (S) when she is being all crazy.  There is no way she passed any testing...she is a producer plant, and they were okay with her leaving now that some of the other girls are bringing some crazy as well.  

 

Normally I would feel annoyed by Chris' reaction to Britt, but I was more annoyed with her.  I agree it is annoying you are dating a man who is hanging all over a bunch of other women, but that is what the show is.  Not that you have to like it, but it seems more out of line to me for her to be all cocky about her place with him, and to insult him over liking other women as well.  We all know this isn't an ideal situation, but that is why the show is still on TV.  Because it is nuts, and the contestants going along with the ride are part of the deal.

[Lamb18]

I think Ashley I. is a producer plant, too.  She is 26 and her whole thing about being a virgin seemed so odd for a 26-year old.  Becca seemed more normal about it.  My guess is that Ashley is stand-up comedian or an actor who specializes in comedy roles.  Can't you imagine her on stage playing a role similar to what she's doing on the Bachelor? Everybody would be howling since she's really funny!  Maybe she's trying to break her way into a crazy lady sitcom role and this is an extended audition. 

[b2H]

A little off-topic, but I always got a kick out of reading Chris Harrison's blog on EW the morning after.

 

Did he give that up this season?  I've looked all over the site for it, but can't find it.

[Primetimer]

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[sarkygal]

I actually understood where Britt was coming from. It wasn't so much jealous girlfriend, IMO. Let's imagine for a second, some of the women are there for "the right reasons" and Chris is favoring a woman who's antics are more Spring break in Cancun than "demure wife-like". It makes you wonder if he's there to hook up with as many women as possible or legitimately looking for a wife.

 

As many of you have pointed out, some women are playing to a script (Whitney, Britt, Kelsey and Jade) - mature, ready to marry e.t.c. and yet Chris is drawn to the sophomoric party girls. So do they flip their script if that's what he really wants? I actually thought Britt wasn't confrontational in tone, just a phony kind of caring. I think she probably was thinking Chris wasn't acting to the "small town farmer seeks a wife" script that TPTB laid out for all of us, so she needed notes for how to play her part.

[clee39]

Has this show done a cross-promotional thing like that Cinderella date before? I can't remember any, and it seemed so very Big Brother to me. At least Jade got diamond earrings for pretending, badly, that it looked romantic, etc. etc. (and apparently did not have to actually watch the damn thing), while the BB houseguests usually just get popcorn and contractually-mandated script readings re. how it was the best movie ever.

[truthaboutluv]

Yeah  I agree with the above. There was definitely a hint of passive aggressiveness on her part, with all the "I'm not really mad at you and I'm not judging just nicely trying to understand" all while she kind of does judge him. But that being said, yeah, I would be wary of a guy saying he's there to find his wife, settle down, find the woman he wants to have children with, giving a group date rose to someone who moons everyone and basically acts like they're on an episode of Girls Gone Wild. I sort of understood Britt's rationale that giving the rose sort of validates that kind of behavior. 

 

And frankly, I like that she was bold enough to call him out on it. One of the MANY issues with this whole "process" and why so many of the relationships don't work, is that the Bachelor(ette) in essence holds all the power in the "relationship". I remember Sharleen said as much in one of her recaps of Andi's season. That at the end of the day, the contestants sometimes don't feel like they can truly be themselves and question and/or challenge anything the lead does because they want to stay and the Bachelor(ette) holds all the power with the ability to just send them home. And that was evident by Chris' giving Britt the last rose which to me felt as passive aggressive as his little speech - a sort of, this is how easily I could have sent you home because you questioned me.

 

Now all this to say, Britt can leave if she really has a problem with who Chris is as a person and the Bachelor and if she feels like he's not being the person she thought he was or acting how she expected. The show's not jail, they always have the option to walk away. 

Edited January 27, 2015 by truthaboutluv

[JudyObscure]

Ashley was right about one thing, she does have great Disney potential -- she already has Walt Disney's number one characteristic to determine femininity -- huge eyelashes.  It's how we can tell Daisy from Donald, Minnie from Mickey and Clarabelle from Goofy.

[leighdear]

Bachelor Rule #1: Do NOT bitch about the other girls to the Bachelor.  It will NOT go well.  It will NOT be appreciated.  But you will probably still get a rose. 

 

I think the editing made Chris' exit from that conversation look abrupt and angry.  The producers want us to SEE drama, so they edited it that way.  I imagine they continued their conversation with Britt smoothing the troubled waters, and Chris accepting her reassurances that she wasn't judging him.   And I think his "right reasons" declaration to the group came well afterwards. 

[truthaboutluv]

The only reason I question the "editing" explanation for how Chris just got up and walked away, is the look on Britt's face and what I thought looked like a genuine surprise reaction when he left. She totally looked like someone not expecting that and not sure what to do in the few moments after.