S20.E11: Double Bind

[DEL901]

1 hour ago, cinsays said:

I really loved Korto's look and thought it fit the challenge, not liking her much personally, but her designs are what count. 

I'm sorry, there was nothing at all modest about Brittney's look, her butt cheeks hanging out? that somehow fits modest?  i think she should have been in the bottom 3 just for not fitting the challenge. Beautiful overdress, but,  in total, a fail.

I think Brittney’s point was that the design which was high necked, long sleeves and long skirt with no slit, was a modest design but executed with a sexy fabric. 

[sempervivum]

Praje is just throwing stuff out there to see if he gets a reaction, imo. Claims he specializes in formalwear (right?), but did mostly streetwear on this season until last week's voodoo-themed thing, and now this week he's suddenly all in for origami? I might be interested in seeing a dress constructed as a single origami piece, but not some dull schmatta with pyramids tacked on all over.

1 hour ago, Pi237 said:

When they flashed back to Rami's dress from last week, you could see the wonky sewing and lines across the bodice. This week, his model had very little breast support and the one boob looked lower than the other

Also, he called the dress 'draped', but it was actually ruched down both sides, a treatment that emphasized the model's belly in an unflattering way. However, Laurence's jacket (when they zoomed in) had a noticeable bulge below the waistline that looked less than expertly fitted.

Basically, the designers at this point should know better than to use brocade fabric at all, since these judges always see it as dated and aging. Yet there was Miss Modest the guest judge in a fugly plaid (?) brocade dress. Also, did my eyes deceive me, or was she wearing black tights and orthopedic shoes?

[ichbin]

I think it is really time for a change of judges.  Perhaps keep Nina but hopefully add some individuals who can truly judge the finished products alone and not the life stories mixed up with social issues and bullshit descriptors. 

Korto is a crankypants but there is no way that her look in this challenge was more deserving of a dismissal than that complete and utter mess Bishme sent down the runway.  

[GiandujaPie]

I did think Bishme's was the worst of the bunch but I'm glad he didn't go home. I like him. 

I think he interpreted basic as being casual and that was part of his failure. I would have interpreted it as taking a basic outfit, like a t-shirt and jeans, and then using it in a bold way such as a bold print, bold color, or a bold deconstruction of some kind. I'm not artistic or a designer so I have no idea what that would look like but that's what I thought of. In some way, the dress made out of hoodie material was like that but the dress was just so ugly. 

I didn't think Praje's deserved to be on the bottom. It was an elegant silhouette but his idea of edgy was just different than the judges. I would have also gone with an elegant evening gown silhouette but with edgy details and trim. I'm glad they acknowledged that the ideas of what the terms meant were subjective and the judging took that into account but so many of the challenges are based on terms and parameters that are subject to interpretation too. 

Count me in among those who didn't understand how Brittney's dress was modest in any way. Having your underwear or bikini bottom covered by a sheer dress is not modest. 

[Bossa Nova]

4 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

The guest judge is named Batsheva Hay.  I had never heard of her before, but they said she designs modest clothes.  Apparently, she designs for the Orthodox Jewish community.

Thank you, Ethelto, for answering my question. 

I looked Batsheva Hay up: briefly, she is an orthodox Jew and designs with the needs of  her community in mind, and beyond for other women who enjoy her aesthetic. Her designs are also known as prairie and Victorian. Yes, her sensibility is about being covered up and modesty. I respect that she appreciated the designs from last night's PR challenge - especially Brittany's who paired modesty and sexy. 

https://batsheva.com/

Interesting article from Town & Country Magazine. Her backstory:

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/style/fashion-trends/a38199995/batsheva-hay-alexei-hay-family-portrait/

 

 

1 hour ago, sempervivum said:

Basically, the designers at this point should know better than to use brocade fabric at all, since these judges always see it as dated and aging. Yet there was Miss Modest the guest judge in a fugly plaid (?) brocade dress. Also, did my eyes deceive me, or was she wearing black tights and orthopedic shoes?

Please see my post just above regarding the guest designer judge, Batsheva Hay. 

[EtheltoTillie]

2 minutes ago, Bossa Nova said:

Thank you, Ethelto, for answering my question. 

I looked Batsheva Hay up: briefly, she is an orthodox Jew and designs with the needs of  her community in mind, and beyond for other women who enjoy her aesthetic. Her designs are also known as prairie and Victorian. Yes, her sensibility is about being covered up and modesty. I respect that she appreciated the designs from last night's PR challenge - especially Brittany's who paired modesty and sexy. 

https://batsheva.com/

Interesting article from Town & Country Magazine. Her backstory:

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/style/fashion-trends/a38199995/batsheva-hay-alexei-hay-family-portrait/

 

 

Yes, I saw that article this morning too.  Very interesting background. 

[BAForever]

Gosh- lots of insightful comments. One thing about Bishme I've noticed (didn't watch his season) he was not proud of his effort. He was quiet and almost seemingly embarrassed. His work throughout has been stronger than Korto- and he didn't challenge the judges- so not shocked he was safe.

[T Summer]

4 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

 

Laurence's outfit: Red? Pink?

I'm going with "pink," unless my TV is really off. 

On my TV which is old, (not even a smart TV) when the model walked in it it appeared bubblegum pink. When I saw it in the workroom having come into the program  late, it looked very bright pink verging on red.

[cpcathy]

 Brittani should have won, her dress wasn’t modest but it was gorgeous.

[Bluesky]

15 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

Korto is fuming while Brittany's gown is praised.

There must be something going on in Korto's life that's driving her combativeness. And it's something outside of the show.

I knew they would show Korto’s face when they were loving Brittany outfit.  I did like Koroto’s and thought Bishme had the worst. He got one of the heavier models and seemed to have forgotten that.   The hoodie was too small.  He could have put the cut out lower.  And the slit in front was so stretched out it was unflattering. 

[seacliffsal]

I just don't understand why they have one-day challenges.  How much more could it cost production to have all two-day challenges (and maybe even throw in a three day challenge).  It's very frustrating to me as a viewer to see the designers not deliver their best work or to be so anxious over such a random and artificial 'challenge.'

As for the episode itself, I like Korto's design even though I haven't liked a lot of her attitude during the season.  

I wish they would either give all of the designers thin models or not-thin models.  I can't even imagine Laurent's design on a heavier model.  Also, Christian helped her once again to a win in that he told her to get rid of the 'wings' in her original design.

[SemiCharmedLife]

Wow!  Korto has a huge chip on her shoulder.  She let that "safe" comment from Brandon eat at her.  The judges are going to give all kinds of critiques.  She should be glad Michael Kors isn't around to amp up the criticism.  That said, I did like what she designed. I think her last few looks have been among her best, though I would have sent her home earlier for some of her first few looks.  

I agree with Nina that there was nothing modest about Brittany's dress.  I can picture a fully covered, body con dress meeting the challenge.  We've had designers in the past who specialized in modest attire, mostly for religious reasons.  The dress could be sexy by emphasizing the model's figure.

I also liked Prajje's design.  I thought the origami features were really original and, yes, edgy.  His dress was elegant, so to me, it met the brief.  I also liked the design they showed from another collection he did, where the origami appliqués were featured.

[sugarbaker design]

16 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

Brandon is a little surly tonight. Elaine says, "It will be hard to find three bottom looks."

Brandon: "No it won't."

Nina actually said "It will be hard to find three bottoms."  When I heard that I said to the TV "C'mon, you're in NYC."  Brandon may have been joking about something else altogether.

[Bluesky]

1 hour ago, seacliffsal said:

I just don't understand why they have one-day challenges.  How much more could it cost production to have all two-day challenges (and maybe even throw in a three day challenge).  It's very frustrating to me as a viewer to see the designers not deliver their best work or to be so anxious over such a random and artificial 'challenge.'

As for the episode itself, I like Korto's design even though I haven't liked a lot of her attitude during the season.  

I wish they would either give all of the designers thin models or not-thin models.  I can't even imagine Laurent's design on a heavier model.  Also, Christian helped her once again to a win in that he told her to get rid of the 'wings' in her original design.

It really isn’t fair to have 1 or 2 heavier models.  At least we haven’t seen the overweight ones they used to use but they seem to be the losing outfit more often than not.   There’s a reason they use models like Mimi.  She has flawless proportions and she enhances everything she wears.  
when Rashmi said the jacket didn’t work I think he was just not saying the problem was her size.   He could have gone home for that.  

1 hour ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

I agree with Nina that there was nothing modest about Brittany's dress.  I can picture a fully covered, body con dress meeting the challenge.  We've had designers in the past who specialized in modest attire, mostly for religious reasons.  The dress could be sexy by emphasizing the model's figure.

The problem is people who would like to dress modestly aren’t wanting  to look sexy.  It was a stupid challenge. 

[rhofmovalley]

I thought of a riff on a secretary or librarian (not a porn version lol) for modest/sexy. They are required to dress modestly but are also regarded as very sexy. I would have thrown on some glasses, had the hair pulled up into a loose chignon and had the model wear pumps. Then done a blouse and skirt with some va-va-voom in a sultry color.

Yikes, that does sound porn-y, doesn't it. 

I liked Korto's pants but thought the jacket needed to be more fitted to offset the very wide pant leg. And I don't mind her deadpan personality, but she did need to stop worrying about what the other contestants were doing. Although I do suspect many of her comments were in response to producer prodding.

[CrazyInAlabama]

I love the Town and Country article about Batsheva Hay and her family, and how the business grew.    Some of the pictures of her work were lovely. 

I think most of the contestants work totally missed the mark on their two themes.     Rami's could have worked better with a much bigger, floaty fabric sleeve.    Brittany's was high fashion, but nothing modest about it.  

[Keywestclubkid]

Rami could have used Kortos pants for his oversized portion and did a tight fitting top and called it a day 

[Salacious Kitty]

6 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Rami could have used Kortos pants for his oversized portion and did a tight fitting top and called it a day 

Has Rami ever designed pants? 

[JenLily]

18 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

So Korto overcame the oppression of having people pronounce her name Core-Toe (you know, phonetically) and not Kah-toe! How did she drag herself out of bed after that?

When she said that, it really resonated with me. Having your name constantly said incorrectly diminishes a person in a way that someone with an easily pronounceable name will never understand. I say this as a person with an extremely common first name who watched my father hear his ethnic name mispronounced until the day he died.

I actually really like Korto's design. I thought it fit the challenge well. And I thought if other people were allowed to claim their fabric choice met their requirements (Bishme with his sweatshirt fabric and Brittany with the sheer fabric), then they should've given her the same grace with her fancy brocade fabric. Instead they dinged her for it. I agree with everyone that said it was her mouth that got her kicked though. I think there was a way she could have effectively defended herself and her vision but she emphatically chose a different route.

Speaking of Brittany, I don't think she met the requirement AT ALL. Sure, it was a full-length, long sleeve, high-neck dress but being able to see the model's ass cheeks completely negates the "modest" aspect. Prajje was right: that's a dress you wear when you want to get laid.

I felt bad for Bishme. He knew he wasn't sending out his best work, you could see it in his body language on the runway and he fully accepted the judges' criticism because he knew they were right. I'm glad he wasn't sent home because I've liked so much of what he's done so far. I think he had a good idea, I just think he let it get away from him.

I don't have much to say about Prajje's look. I didn't much like it but I didn't outright hate it. I agree with Nina, it was just sort of there for me.

I loved Laurence's look and I think there were elements to it that maybe could be seen as trendy (the strong shoulders, the moto aspect of the pants) but at the end of the day it was a leather jumpsuit. Classic for sure but not particularly innovative.

Rami's dress was beautiful but even he knew he was full of shit with the cape thing as his oversized element. If he'd made it more dramatic, more billowy, more MORE then I think he could've gotten away with the claim but as is there was nothing oversized about it.

I'm most interested in seeing a Rami/Bishme/Laurence final runway so I hope they don't muck anything up between now and then.

[Bossa Nova]

Regarding guest judges, does anyone know the name of the male guest judge from the denim challenge from about 3 weeks ago ?

[T Summer]

15 minutes ago, Bossa Nova said:

Regarding guest judges, does anyone know the name of the male guest judge from the denim challenge from about 3 weeks ago ?

Episode 8: Uncut Hems

Original airdate: July 27, 2023

It's the halfway point and the designers are hitting the road to a denim explosion. In a Project Runway throwback challenge, they'll create all-denim looks while competing in head-to-head battles where only one designer can be safe from elimination.

Kara Saun vs. AnnaBrittany vs. LaurenceRami vs. KortoBishme vs. Prajje

Guest Judge: Willy Chavarria (sitting in for Nina Garcia) & Julia Fox

WINNER: Laurence Basse

Saved: Rami Kashou

Willie Chavrria

Edited August 18, 2023 by T Summer
typo

[Bossa Nova]

Thank you TSummer !

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willy_Chavarria

https://www.willychavarria.com/

[SuprSuprElevated]

2 hours ago, JenLily said:

When she said that, it really resonated with me. Having your name constantly said incorrectly diminishes a person in a way that someone with an easily pronounceable name will never understand.

I have a 4-letter last name, with alternating vowels & consonants, and it is mispronouncd 75% of the time. I have never felt diminished, though your exprience clearly differs. If it exercised me, I would correct the speaker. People can't know until they know.

Edited August 18, 2023 by SuprSuprElevated

[dleighg]

Somehow I missed her complaint about her name. Since her name is not pronounced in any way like it is spelled, she can't possibly complain about the first time someone tries it after meeting her, right? Was this after someone had been corrected a couple of times? My last name is pronounced ok, but people always want to insert an extra letter that doesn't exist. 

[Dr Mama]

For me, Prajje had the worst look of the night. The dress itself looked pretty boring, and it also looked to me like there were some issues with the seams in the front. Side note: When did they stop doing those up-close inspections of the clothing after the interviews?

I thought his color choices [both the dress and the scarf] were pretty boring, and while the origami features could have been edgy, I think he needed an entirely different color palate (and maybe fabric choice) to really highlight that feature.

I did not think Korto's was the worst--I hated her fabric choice on the pants, but the style seemed very interesting. I would have loved to see them in a different fabric. I won't miss her complaining, though.

I like Rami, but I didn't think his dress this week was super flattering to his model. And while I loved the overall look of his "Freedom" dress, it looked to me like he had some stitching issues.
 

[rhofmovalley]

My name is constantly mispronounced.  It's spelled exactly as it should be pronounced but people always want to substitute a more common variant of my name.  It's extremely frustrating because I just don't see what's so difficult about it.  Even when my name is on my email signature people will reply to the email using the wrong name.

However, I don't know how people are supposed to know the "r" in Korto is basically silent.  It's not like the second "e" in "Laurence" being silent.  Although I presume Laurence has had problems with people presuming she's male before they meet her in person.

[SuprSuprElevated]

1 hour ago, dleighg said:

Somehow I missed her complaint about her name. Since her name is not pronounced in any way like it is spelled, she can't possibly complain about the first time someone tries it after meeting her, right? Was this after someone had been corrected a couple of times? My last name is pronounced ok, but people always want to insert an extra letter that doesn't exist. 

It wasn't something she harped on, but mentiond it (thinking she was sewing at the time), and was complaining about her constantly being a victim of any number of "double binds".  I can't recall when exactly it was, as I was too distracted by my own eyerolling.

7 minutes ago, Dr Mama said:

I did not think Korto's was the worst

Nor did I. That honor belonged to Rami or Brittney on my ballot.

Edited August 18, 2023 by SuprSuprElevated

[dleighg]

14 minutes ago, Dr Mama said:

I like Rami, but I didn't think his dress this week was super flattering to his model.

And when Christian said "that dress makes her look amazing" (or something like that) I gave serious side-eye. Yeah, she's "chubby" for the modeling world, and I guess it's great that she "doesn't look fat."

Edited August 18, 2023 by dleighg

[Straycat80]

10 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

 

Laurence's outfit: Red? Pink?

I'm going with "pink," unless my TV is really off. 

Looked red on my TV. 

[Salacious Kitty]

8 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Looked red on my TV. 

Looked Barbie pink to me. 

[bosawks]

I think Brittany was on her way to a perfectly valid take on the challenge but she didn't quite get there.  I think the argument she was attempting to make was that the thought process of sexiness with a splash of modesty was just as valid an interpretation as modesty with a splash of sexiness.

She made me actually rethink whether she met the parameters of the challenge.

[Blueboxes]

Wow. I thought Korto would be in the top. She clearly addressed the challenge and I think pants that look like a ball gown are a cool idea. She didn't deserve to go home. I haven't been happy with her attitude most of the season but her last 2 looks were beautiful and the judges were so dismissive. I'd be pissed too in her shoes. 

Love Laurence's and thought it perfectly fit the challenge. 

At first I was salty that Brittney was in the top because I felt her look was all sexy & no modesty but I came around on that. She took very modest silhouette and made it sexy. Wasn't how I interpreted the challenge at first but I think it's valid. 

But Rami was in the top?? With that mess?? It did not fit well, wasn't flattering (as someone else said, it made the models boobs look completely lopsided), that zipper in the back was awful and it didn't address the challenge at all! 

Bishme was lost but he knew it. I love him for that. Figured he wouldn't go home based upon his previous wins. 

I was on the fence with Pradje. I didn't like his look but I think partly as with Brittney it came down to interpretation. I think he thought of edgy as "innovative" which his construction was. But I think of edgy as more of a rebellious, non-conformist vibe and his design had none of that. 

I thought Rami should be the one to go home, sorry Christian. 

Edited August 19, 2023 by Blueboxes
Typo making me crazy

[Wicked]

Rami's outfit was so boring, I would have sent him home

[FlyingEgret]

I thought Brittany was going to design a long-sleeved workout jumpsuit in spandex with a racing stripe type outfit so was pleasantly surprised with her final look. And I totally got her concept of "modesty" (the model was in fact covered in fabric from head to toe, even if that fabric was sheer); but I was good with Laurence winning with her stunning design

However, I was shocked that Korto didn't use the actual "Double Bind" phrase during the judging process; she missed a golden opportunity...

[caitmcg]

When Mimi, who could sell fire to Phoenix in August, doesn’t really try, you know your look is not headed for glory.

[40Love]

23 hours ago, patty1h said:

Bishe and Korto's were pretty abysmal, in my opinion.  Korto can't take criticism well - she takes it too personal. Not sure if it's narcissism or thin skin.  

It's all ego. She has such a high opinion of herself, that she can't even fathom anyone criticizing her. She needs that kind of confidence in the dog-eat-dog world of fashion. But, it wasn't working for her on this show. What's interesting is she came on the show to be judged... but can't take the judgment. Guess she just expected to win every challenge... every week. Glad she's gone. 

[gorgy]

Again, another one day challenge 😒

Again, another asymmetrical design challenge 😒

• Anytime I hear "I'm a grown ass woman/man," I know I'm about to hear some sophomoric tantrum. Lo and behold, it's Korto with her "mature" attitude.  I just can't with her and now I no longer have to, so yea for me. Anyway, her look this week looked like what an old person thinks a young person would want. It's a Wendy Pepper. 
  • I'd also like to add my real name is Séafra, and people mispronouncing my name is not that big of a deal for me. (my last is even more confusing, lol) 
• I thought Prajje was gone this week. Outside of the granny couch pattern pyramids, the blue dress looked like a very nice bridesmaid dress from 1997.
• Bishme's look needed two days at least. Liked the concept, hated the execution. 
• Rami's look was extra safe. His looks are never really bad, but this could be something he made 20 years ago, and I wouldn't know the difference. I suppose you could graciously call them timeless.
• The top two looks were both fine. I'm not sure either embraced the challenge brief any more or any less than the other, but both were good for 12 interrupted hours of work. I think if they did any more, either of them were just as susceptible at being in the bottom. I wish Kara Saun was still around, because I think she would have excelled in this challenge.

Edited August 19, 2023 by gorgy

[Showthyme]

Elaine brings nothing to the show. 

[ichbin]

4 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I have a 4-letter last name, with alternating vowels & consonants, and it is mispronouncd 75% of the time. I have never felt diminished, though your exprience clearly differs. If it exercised me, I would correct the speaker. People can't know until they know.

I have a given name that perplexes English only speaking people, even after they  ask me to repeat it and make several sincere attempts to pronounce it properly.  I gave myself a similar but more easy to pronounce nickname decades ago and made everyone's life easier.  It's not that big a deal. People have trouble recreating sounds outside of the languages they are familiar with. I honestly have trouble pronouncing foreign names originating in a different language also. The only time I felt bad about my name was when I was never able to find it on one of those souvenir items in a gift shop when I was a kid. 

 

 

23 minutes ago, Showthyme said:

Elaine brings nothing to the show. 

I completely agree.  She is attractive, statuesque, and wears clothes well...that's about it. 

[30 Helens]

5 hours ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

I have a 4-letter last name, with alternating vowels & consonants, and it is mispronouncd 75% of the time. I have never felt diminished, though your exprience clearly differs. If it exercised me, I would correct the speaker. People can't know until they know.

Exactly. Of course most people would pronounce the “R”, it’s right there! That’s nothing to be offended by. And if she doesn’t correct them, that’s on her.

The more I see of Laurence’s backstory, the more I understand about her reserved, guarded demeanor. Detached doesn’t always mean arrogant. I’m glad she got the win.

I didn’t understand what was so dated and uninteresting about the color of Prajje’s dress. I thought that was a lovely shade of blue.  Although the appliqués did not read as origami to me, they just reminded me of the folded paper fortune things my childhood friends and I used to make:

I’d say his fortune this week was “Luck is on your side”!

I thought Brittany’s look was fine, but it didn’t meet the challenge. I would have designed something that was primarily modest but with a decidedly sexy aspect, like a high leg slit or a boob cut-out. She leaned too far into the sexy, which overwhelmed any modest component. Still, it was well made and not unappealing, so she deserved to be safe.

I love Rami, so all I have to say for him is, Phew. It seems Prajje’s fortune spinner was kind to him, as well.

Bishme’s was easily the worst of the bunch. But if you were judging, which designer would you rather put through? The one who has made many previous standout designs and maintains a positive attitude, or the one who, albeit talented, sulks and complains when people don’t praise her to the level she deems appropriate? I would have decided as the judges did, and wouldn’t have thought twice about it.

[buttersister]

I have a theory. Rami was in the top because he’s going to the final if for no other reason than Christian will go to his house or studio and that’s a producer’s dream.

Meanwhile, Korto had to know Nina would never take criticism well.

My last name gets mispronounced much of the time. They stand corrected.

#1 for replacing the other judges. I really miss the year Zac Posen was a judge and he closely inspected everything. And talked about it! Also it’s better to have a former model on board. Usually, they offer an interesting perspective. Nothing about what Elaine says is interesting. Are maybe I’m out of it, but I’d never heard of Brandon.

 

[Pi237]

Ironically, this was the first episode where I found Elaine interesting. She didn't fold at all under Korto's criticism. I thought, ooh two strong opinionated women with egos, not backing down while the other judges looked a bit stunned, and I kind of loved them both for it, even if I didn't agree.  Otherwise, she laps up those sob stories like butter and I hate that crap. 

 

[pasdetrois]

On 8/17/2023 at 10:44 PM, Pi237 said:

I felt this episode she was Trying to talk herself out of breaking down.

I agree; I could hear the slight catch in her voice.

Ironic that we got Elaine's little speech about women and double binds, and then Korto vented about her frustration over mixed messages, which was valid for PR's typical production shenanigans. Korto has been furious about the show's meaningless judging and manipulations. The latest hypocrisy - calling Brittany's look modest - was driving her nuts.

I had to laugh at how stricken everyone looked as Korto went off. Not PR's typical scripted drama.

On 8/17/2023 at 11:26 PM, susannot said:

I loved Korto's look.

I liked it too. Perhaps if she'd zipped up the jacket the contrast in proportions would have been more striking. We all know that on another runway somewhere in the world someone would have been raving about that look.

I think sweet Bishme felt Korto's pain. Or maybe he was regretting picking up a Bedazzler.

 

[cinsays]

15 hours ago, dleighg said:

Somehow I missed her complaint about her name. Since her name is not pronounced in any way like it is spelled, she can't possibly complain about the first time someone tries it after meeting her, right? Was this after someone had been corrected a couple of times? My last name is pronounced ok, but people always want to insert an extra letter that doesn't exist. 

i imagine it was definitely after being corrected a time or two.  i had a last name that lent itself to mispronunciation and to a crass take-off.  my niece, a doctor, opted to change her last name to another family name to deal with it.

korto probably has had similar problems, some intentional, so i don't blame her.

[rhofmovalley]

6 minutes ago, cinsays said:

I imagine it was definitely after being corrected a time or two. 

That's where I get frustrated. I've politely corrected certain people several times and they still call me by the wrong name. Or they address me by the wrong name on email replies despite my actual name being right there in my email signature. At some point it's deliberate. I actually stopped volunteering at an organization because the volunteer coordinator persisted in deliberately calling me by the wrong name despite me correcting her SEVEN times. 

But no way were they going to keep Korto after she called them out for their inconsistent judging. 

[RoseAllDay]

I actually screamed BULLSHIT when Laurence won — again — with that boring jumpsuit. Brittany’s interpretation of her double bind was interesting and beautiful. Well, I see where this is headed. Can’t be any more transparent, can it?

Korto and the judges was cringeworthy. It said a lot that she had to resort to her personal sob story to try to defend an aesthetic, fabric, and construction fail. I’m surprised she didn’t walk off flipping a double bird, since it was very clear she was spoiling for a fight. I’ve always liked Korto, but her arrogance was just too much this week. I think she just couldn’t handle it the deeper she got into the competition and it came out in increased bitchiness.

I just could not get over that front pocket on Bishme’s gown. I guess it figured in to the hoodie concept? At least he managed to come up with a Plan B that didn’t get him sent home.

Korto’s complaint was that the judges didn’t notice the details in the Freedom design. I wonder if they still closely examine garments during their deliberations, like they did in Heidi’s reign?

Don’t know who this Hay person is but I was underwhelmed by her work, which made me basically ignore most of her commentary.

And who stole Prajje’s idea for Elaine’s top??

12 hours ago, Showthyme said:

Elaine brings nothing to the show. 

Her critiques are basically word salad.

[potatoradio]

Dear Elaine -

It has not gone unnoticed that each time you critique a designer with a plus-size model, you manage to work in a comment such as the one you uttered in the last ep: "Well, Rami, you did a great job designing for HER proportions."  The anti-sizeism committee of the diversity and inclusion department has enrolled you in a workshop designed so that you might have the opportunity to reflect on your not-so-subtle fat phobia. Until you complete the workshop, we ask that you respectfully consider either saying something about EVERY model's proportions, or simply STFU about a model's particular shape or size. We look forward to your participation and honesty and cool factor. 

Best,

Women Who Are Sick and Tired of That Shit

I loved Korto's pants. I am a sucker for flared, dramatic pants and thought they were stunning.  She would have been safe in my judging, which probably would have pissed her off more than being eliminated. 

Oh, Bishme. I know you know that design needed some serious editing. Did Christian offer him any helpful advice? I can't remember, but if ever there was a time for a mentor to be helpful, that was it.

Brittany's fabric was beautiful but she can take a seat with her "interpretation" of modesty. She missed the brief and the judges decided that this time, missing the brief was A-OK because....well, subjective and producer picks and all.

(But yes, I know, Bishme should have gone home....)

I didn't think Prajje's colors were that terrible either. They looked a bit typical for him - metallic, blue, streetwear type shades. I couldn't make out all the detail of the top design, though, so there's that. 

Rooting for at least Bishme and Laurence in the finale. 

[carrps]

18 hours ago, bosawks said:

I think Brittany was on her way to a perfectly valid take on the challenge but she didn't quite get there.

Once she explained it, I "got" what Brittany was doing with her design. The cut and style of the dress was modest; the fabric made it sexy. I thought it was a clever and intelligent interpretation of the challenge.

ETA: My first and last names -- combined -- have only 9 letters. It's rarely mispronounced, but I've had so many people make a blend of my first and last names into another completely different first name. It's happened so much I think it must be a common dyslexic type reading of it. I got a lot more offended when I was a kid, because the "new" name was the name of our dog at the time.

No comments on Elaine's hideous hairdo? I don't like the frizzed out look; I prefer the curls she had last week. And did someone plop a handful of Crisco on top of her head and let it melt into her scalp? Yuck. And ick.

 

Edited August 19, 2023 by carrps

[dleighg]

18 minutes ago, carrps said:

No comments on Elaine's hideous hairdo? I don't like the frizzed out look; I prefer the curls she had last week. And did someone plop a handful of Crisco on top of her head and let it melt into her scalp? Yuck. And ick

I certainly noticed her hair. How many hours would it take to make it do that? (Assuming it's her own-- I know it certainly looked like it but I've watched Padma Lakshmi go from medium length to long overnight without being able to tell how she did it).

[carrps]

Extensions. I assume at least 50% of Elaine's hair is extensions.