S12.E16: Altitude Adjustment

[Stats Queen]

I love my kitties.

I was waiting for Sutton’s cat to jump into the suitcase on top of that huge coat…

[RealHousewife]

7 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

You know it is not a good situation:

When one of Kyle’s dogs is the best behaved guest ………….

Storm is quiet and sweet, doesn't even need Depends like Rinna. 

[Duke2801]

12 hours ago, Hiyo said:

I don't think Rinna even qualifies for that anymore.

Yep the only “B” list she’s on is the Big ole’ Bitch List. 
 

She’s also on the “C” list…

[Melonie77]

1 minute ago, Surrealist said:

Count me in as another kitty fan. 

I like dogs too, but I'm bored with everyone having dogs. 😂

Because her choice in pets is different than the rest, I bet the others have held Sutton's cat preference against her - perhaps complaining about allergies or whatever. I think I remember Kyle moaning when Sutton was using her house.

[RealHousewife]

4 hours ago, ivygirl said:

After all this, I realize I’m coming around a bit on Crystal. She’s still not a fave, but she’s been acting like a decent person. And really, what she’s done in the past pales in comparison to this poopstorm.

Crystal >>> most of the women for me.  

[Stats Queen]

20 minutes ago, Melonie77 said:

Because her choice in pets is different than the rest, I bet the others have held Sutton's cat preference against her - perhaps complaining about allergies or whatever. I think I remember Kyle moaning when Sutton was using her house.

Remember when they went riding horses in Germany (?) and Kyle was allergic and went anyway and cut the ride short?

I think I’m allergic to Kyle. Every time she is on my screen lately I get a migraine.

I also remember when Real Housewives was my escapism TV and now it makes me angry.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Stats Queen

[Mrs peel]

On 8/31/2022 at 7:06 PM, eleanorofaquitaine said:

Hungover Diana is the most palatable Diana has been all season. 

And…….that lasted all of 5 minutes.  I’m beginning to agree with whoever said she came on the show specifically to be a new villain.  I don’t see another explanation for the dip from “let’s have space” between Sutton and her, and the cackling saying Sutton is a c##t.  Disgusting.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Mrs peel
I’d forgotten the actual horrific word Diana said.

[OlderThanDirt]

Random thoughts: 

What if Sutton or Garcelle said they unfollowed Erica because they weren't interested in what she was posting and her self promoting photos were cluttering up their IG feed?

If Kyle made such a point of having "hired" a chef for the rental house, why didn't they grill and eat there? The kitchen and where ever they filmed the s**tfest at the end were both too small for that group. 

I think Bravo rushed into filming this season immediately after the whole Girardi situation exploded in the hope of exploiting Erica's involvement.  But she has replaced lawsuits with drinking excess. I'm looking forward to Crystal calling Erica out next week but they have overpromised in previews before.  I don't have a lot of hope. 

Garcelle , Sutton an Crystal are the only adults in the room. 

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, Melonie77 said:

I too was disappointed in Kathy. She said nothing in Sutton's defense and instead tried to get Diana to stay.

Last season Erika growled and threatened Sutton at a dinner party AT KATHY'S HOUSE and she (and everyone else) stayed silent.  

[goofygirl]

On 8/31/2022 at 8:22 PM, Surrealist said:

I've said this before, but I'll say it again.

I've never had kids, but I can't imagine how difficult it is for any woman to suffer through a miscarriage.

That said I'm a breast cancer survivor, and will have shit to deal with for the rest of my life, but never have I weaponized what happened to me with the sole purpose of trying to bully or shut someone else down. I can't think of more appalling behavior. We all have our crosses to bear, so to speak, and it's never right to weaponize terrible things that happen to you just to be an asshole to someone else.

As long as we're talking about this.... I had two miscarriages way back when.  Devastating.  Later, I ended up with a ginormous ovarian tumor that on further investigation, needed to GO! QUICKLY!  I went into surgery not knowing whether the tumor was benign or cancerous.  I had to sign for not only the tumor removal but possibly a total hysterectomy. I was 45 years old.  Had a complete hysterectomy, went home with a hormone patch and went into immediate menopause.  That was ALMOST 23 years ago.  I was completely speechless for a while.  

The people I knew THEN and the people I know NOW are few and far between.  The ones I knew then it was actually happening, knew what went down.  The ones I know now?? When they ask about my lack of children?? I just say, "We tried, but it just didn't happen." PERIOD.

I can't imagine having to tell anyone I don't know; or just MET (Like Sutton and that stoopid ass Diana) revealing so much PERSONAL information.  WHO DOES THAT???

But, according to the dumbass Diana, Sutton should have told her EVERY FREAKING THING about her miscarriages or else she's gonna call her a LIAR!  And Good Gawd Almighty! THAT IS NUTS!

Edited September 2, 2022 by goofygirl

[goofygirl]

13 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

I now realize that I may have been hiding my miscarriage from all of you. 🙀😜

But I showed up to snark and was not mean to any of you.

Me too girl!!!  WHAT WAS I THINKING??? Lol!

[njbchlover]

3 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Yes literally in the car ride days before “we need to STOP all coming at Sutton” “yeah” … 3 days later alright ladies line up and tell Sutton everything you hate about her 1,2,3.. go… 

I've been wondering about that car scene with Dorit and Kyle.  I'm wondering if maybe, just maybe, Dorit and Kyle filmed that AFTER the Aspen trip and the producers/editors worked their magic to make it appear like it was filmed prior.

Maybe Kyle and Dorit have realized that this is all getting ugly and out of hand, and wanted to kind of "wash their hands" of it all, so they filmed that car scene of the two of them, alone, to be inserted into the show at the right time, so as to show that they are not involved with the whole nastiness toward Sutton.  For the most part, Dorit was fairly silent during Diana's diatribe, and Kyle, well, I think she realized AFTER THE FACT that she was complicit and wanted to clean it up a bit.

Again - I'm giving this too much time, but it's something to wonder about!  

And, as far as that car scene and they were supposedly taking their dogs for a walk - Dorit throwing extra love on her pup - that was some big load of bullshit.  I will never forgive her for the Lucygate situation.

[goofygirl]

5 hours ago, Melonie77 said:

Bravo ran the season with the trip to Holland yesterday and I re-watched a couple of episodes. One of my favorite scenes from the series was the bicycle ride by the windmills. 
The sinister turn started years ago but it seemed to really take ahold after Lisa Vanderpump left. I'm not sure if I can explain why.

It's because once they ran LVP off, they thought they could do it again.. And again.. And so far, they've runnoft LVP AND Denise Richards.  The next victim is Sutton Stracke.  I personally think they WANT to runnoft Garcelle but can't without it appearing racially motivated.

[Melonie77]

2 hours ago, Mrs peel said:

And…….that lasted all of 5 minutes.  I’m beginning to agree with whoever said she came on the show specifically to be a new villain.  I don’t see another explanation for the dip from “let’s have space” between Sutton and her, and the cackling saying Sutton is a c##t.  Disgusting.

I was at least one person who said this a few weeks ago. I figured she decided this would be the best role that would keep her on the show. She even said at one point something like 'are you looking for your new villain? Here I am'. The role suits her. Andy made a mistake as this show already has too many villains.

[Melonie77]

1 hour ago, goofygirl said:

It's because once they ran LVP off, they thought they could do it again.. And again.. And so far, they've runnoft LVP AND Denise Richards.  The next victim is Sutton Stracke.  I personally think they WANT to runnoft Garcelle but can't without it appearing racially motivated.

I totally agree! And I also think that there is a hole left in the show with LVP gone. I know she could be shady and mean at times but she was an anchor in a way where a lot of the show revolved around events that she threw, parties at her restaurants, her house porn, etc. I don't watch any of her other shows, I just liked what she contributed to this one especially in the earlier seasons.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Melonie77

[Melonie77]

2 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Last season Erika growled and threatened Sutton at a dinner party AT KATHY'S HOUSE and she (and everyone else) stayed silent.  

When I remember that they are all playing roles to a certain extent I wonder if it has been accepted by most of them that Sutton will be pushed into the role of the show's designated victim. Sutton may not have agreed to this but she has somehow fallen into that position.
The groups' behavior is bizarre though. If I was part of this group, even if Sutton was not my favorite person I would not sit there and say nothing while she was being bullied. The silence from the rest of the women must make it even more upsetting for Sutton and I don't understand why she stays on the show. I also do not understand why Andy/TPTB don't tell the producers to control and guide the drama more. The narrative is not even making sense. 

Edited September 2, 2022 by Melonie77

[SemiCharmedLife]

7 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

Yes, it was the conversation in the yard before the trip. 

He told Kyle that he hoped she knew he was coming because there was no way he was going to miss out on the great skiing happening then.   She said she also needed him there to walk Thor (the dog) at night because she was afraid of bears.  

This isn't the first time Mauricio has joined in on a girls trip.  He also joined the ladies in the Ultimate Girls' Trip in the Caymen Islands (I believe it was the Caymen Islands).  Kyle seems to get special privileges to bring her hubby on trips with her.  I think other husbands should be invited, if that is the case.

[Melonie77]

6 hours ago, Surrealist said:

Definitely not here, but in other parts of the fandom, I see Brandi's name (second to LVP) on the return wish list.

I wonder if this is due to the fans she has who sympathize with her over LeAnn Rimes and Brandi's ex Eddie Cibrian.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Melonie77

[Hiyo]

I kind of feel bad for LVP but I also don’t, since she and Brandi ran off Adrienne in season 3. What goes around comes around…

I will say LVP did bring some good lifestyle/party porn.

[RealHousewife]

5 minutes ago, Hiyo said:

I kind of feel bad for LVP but I also don’t, since she and Brandi ran off Adrienne in season 3. What goes around comes around…

I will say LVP did bring some good lifestyle/party porn.

I guess we'll never know for sure how much LVP had to do with it, but it was so gross of Brandi, and Adrienne was done dirty all around. 

3 hours ago, OlderThanDirt said:

Garcelle , Sutton an Crystal are the only adults in the room. 

Yup, and I for one want a cast full of mature adults, not "ladies" gossiping about IG follows, name calling, and bullying. I actually wish we got to see more of Crystal. I'd like to hear more about her business, day to day life, and what her other friends are like. Her kids are extremely cute, and while I don't love the age gap, Rob seems sweet. 

[Surrealist]

5 hours ago, Melonie77 said:

Because her choice in pets is different than the rest, I bet the others have held Sutton's cat preference against her - perhaps complaining about allergies or whatever. I think I remember Kyle moaning when Sutton was using her house.

People have a weird discrimination against cats. They usually claim an allergy instead of just saying they hate cats, or don't understand them. 😂

I've had all kinds of pets (including a dog), and I grew closest to my cat. Sadly, we had to put her down at the end of July. Almost 20 years. It's still hard.

Getting back on track, though: Kyle's dogs are adorable. Storm was probably like, get me the hell away from these bitches.

[Melonie77]

1 hour ago, Hiyo said:

I kind of feel bad for LVP but I also don’t, since she and Brandi ran off Adrienne in season 3. What goes around comes around…

I will say LVP did bring some good lifestyle/party porn.

I loved her relationship with Cedric in the first season. A highlight was when the two of them cross-dressed for a 1920's party! I don't really remember what happened w/ Adrienne other than she and Paul were bickering all the time. I remember that she didn't show up to a reunion but I can't recall why....

[Melonie77]

16 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

People have a weird discrimination against cats. They usually claim an allergy instead of just saying they hate cats, or don't understand them. 😂

I've had all kinds of pets (including a dog), and I grew closest to my cat. Sadly, we had to put her down at the end of July. Almost 20 years. It's still hard.

Getting back on track, though: Kyle's dogs are adorable. Storm was probably like, get me the hell away from these bitches.

I love all animals but cats are my favorite and I've owned them most of my life. Dogs are more popular as pets in the US but cats are pretty high up there too. I'm always surprised at how there is an absence of them on these shows....maybe because they can't be controlled as well so don't make as good tv?

I didn't like LVP whole storyline about the dog abuse - it gave me anxiety and I had to skip those episodes or FF through the parts where it was discussed. I respected her work but I couldn't handle hearing about it.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Melonie77

[Melonie77]

1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

I guess we'll never know for sure how much LVP had to do with it, but it was so gross of Brandi, and Adrienne was done dirty all around. 

I can not remember this and it's driving me nuts - can you please just give me a quick sentence or two to refresh my memory? What did Brandi do to Adrienne? 

Edited to add - I just googled the story and now I remember! Shame on Brandi! I hope we never see her on the show again.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Melonie77

[hoodooznoodooz]

Finally viewing this episode: Mauricio seems hostile toward Kathy.

[hoodooznoodooz]

These women are so stupid wearing designer logo print head to toe. It costs the least amount of money to manufacture, and has the highest mark-up. Rinna was wearing Marc Jacobs on the plane. 

Rinna: Will Garcelle find her soulmate this year?

Kathy: Will who?

[hoodooznoodooz]

Originally, Diana was claiming that Sutton was trying to compete with her. You just had a miscarriage? One miscarriage? Well, I’ve had TWO miscarriages! I win!

Now Diana thinks evil Sutton was nefariously withholding information?

“She had two miscarriages that she hid from everybody.”

[65mickey]

4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Finally viewing this episode: Mauricio seems hostile toward Kathy.

I  felt that hostility also. He is usually so laid back but yikes the way he spoke to Kathy when she asked about grillling the corn. Then when Kyle brought up the Instagram unfollowing and started the whole argument Kathy came out with this is not important. She said you all need to get over yourselves or something to that effect. Shortly therafter Kyle pulled one of her favorite moves by storming away in anger.  I think there was already a crack in the Kathy/Kyle relationship beofre the trip. 

[Sweet-tea]

On 8/31/2022 at 8:10 PM, RoseAllDay said:

It was. Just compare the past couple seasons (this one in particular) to the earlier ones. The vibe is just dark, ugly, and mean. Tonight it was so easy to see how things got to where they are after what happened this past week. 

Why would anyone want to be a part of this?

Diana in particular needs to go. That comment….just. wow.

It was awful! Lizard Lips needs to go!

Erika’s cackle showed her true nature. The veil slipped and we were able to see her demonic self. Looks like it gets worse next week.

I can’t believe Kyle defended Diana yet again. If someone had talked to Kyle that way, she would’ve fallen apart and then trashed everyone for not standing up for her. Yet she’s part of the coven of this coven of witches. 

Crystal and Dorit’s silence didn’t help much either. As usual, Rinna didn’t do the right thing either. Why did Kathy tell Diana not to leave? She should’ve been consoling Sutton, not Diana!

 What a bunch of horrible mean women!  They’re too old to be called girls. There is no excuse!

This was hard to watch. It’s no longer entertaining. It was a human cesspool. 

[65mickey]

8 hours ago, goofygirl said:

It's because once they ran LVP off, they thought they could do it again.. And again.. And so far, they've runnoft LVP AND Denise Richards.  The next victim is Sutton Stracke.  I personally think they WANT to runnoft Garcelle but can't without it appearing racially motivated.

I totally agree with this. I have been saying this since last season. Kyle, Rinna and Erika want to be in charge and run this show. They are furious that Garcelle and Sutton are the most popular with the fans. They don't have the balls to go after Garcelle because they know how that will play out. And Garcelle will make quick work of these bitches. Sutton is the weakest link so they take her out. Then they think that Garcelle will be isolated and will either leave of her own volition or will cease to be a threat.  Not happening. 

If Sutton, Garcelle and Crystal would just have each other's backs when one is attacked they could shut down this constant bullying by the coven. Just stand up to them like Garcell has done with Erika and Diana. 

[sugarbaker design]

12 hours ago, Melonie77 said:

Does anyone know why Storm specifically got an invite and not Kyles's other dogs?

Bambi, Romeo, Luna and River recently unfollowed Kyle and Dorrit on Instagram.

[Mother of Odin]

On 9/1/2022 at 6:49 AM, Bluedog100 said:

I saw Kyle make the sign of the cross when she got on the plane. Thought she was Jewish??

It was Garcelle. You can't see!!!!

16 hours ago, Cosmocrush said:

I remember something along those lines too.  These three spend YEARS at a time not speaking to one or the other.  

That's what happens when you have a Kyle

[MaggieG]

On the one hand, I want Sutton to say fuck it and leave. Nobody should have to stay in a toxic environment where they are constantly bullied for just existing. On the other hand, I want her to stay and continue being herself because if she leaves the show, that means the Coven wins. 

[chlban]

9 hours ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

This isn't the first time Mauricio has joined in on a girls trip.  He also joined the ladies in the Ultimate Girls' Trip in the Caymen Islands (I believe it was the Caymen Islands).  Kyle seems to get special privileges to bring her hubby on trips with her.  I think other husbands should be invited, if that is the case.

Remember when Simon came to a girl's night out and Ramona was upset? Where us Ramona even we need her? I assume this has to do with promoting his new show, or the cheating rumors are ticking up again and Kyle is keeping him on a short leash these days. I went back and forth on Kyle for a few years, and Mauricio as well, but I see them now fir what they are. Kyle is a total shit stirrer. Look back on previous seasons and it's the same routine every season. At least Rinna attacks openly, Vile Kyle pretends to be friends with someone while stabbing them in the back. This season, it's Sutton, but she isn't the first. He'll,  she outed her own sister as an alcoholic on National TV. Yes, We all knew it was either alcohol or drugs, or both, by watching, but still.. As for her hubby, the Stoner, I can't stand him either. Bad enough we have to put up with the Coven. Leave your sleaze bag husband at home.

[RoseAllDay]

Do yourselves a favor and listen to the Watch What Crappens podcast about this episode. 

There’s a lot to unpack because Ben and Ronnie go all over the place, but my takeaways:

* Up until now the FFF have always been able to turn everything around on whoever their victim du jour is (LVP, Denise, Sutton) to make themselves look totally innocent of the shit they set in motion in the attempt to get someone to leave. That is not working this time, with both Sutton and Garcelle calling them on their BS. Everybody can see what’s going on.

* The double standards are getting out of control. Behavior that they excuse some for, they turn around and roast someone else.

* This season is showing Kyle for the true shit-stirrer that she is. Show’s not even trying to hide it.

* Ben and Ronnie HATE Diana with the heat of a million suns. They are unsparing. She is trash, among other things. They’re over Kyle, too.

* They suggest the following changes: When the show is done, put it on hiatus. Thoroughly clean house — to put it gently, based on their description, it needs a high colonic. Get rid of Rinna (may already have been done), Erika, and Diana. Keep Kyle, but take out all her cheerleaders — and Kyle does need those three for a cover. 

* Social media is killing this show, because of the cast. They compared it to NY (I don’t watch NY anymore, so I don’t get the reference, but still agree with the opinion of social media). 

As usual, don’t listen at work unless you want people to think you’re nuts when they hear you laughing out loud. These guys can be hilarious. Oh, and Rinna has blocked both on Insta….but that’s OK I guess, because that’s not the same as unfollowing, and she has good reasons, and it wasn’t Garcelle or Sutton doing it…..(see double standards above).
 

[janiema]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I  felt that hostility also. He is usually so laid back but yikes the way he spoke to Kathy when she asked about grillling the corn. Then when Kyle brought up the Instagram unfollowing and started the whole argument Kathy came out with this is not important. She said you all need to get over yourselves or something to that effect. Shortly therafter Kyle pulled one of her favorite moves by storming away in anger.  I think there was already a crack in the Kathy/Kyle relationship beofre the trip. 

I also noticed that Kathy mumbled that the boiled corn was undercooked. The difficulties between the Richards sisters seem to have a common denominator - Kyle. 

[RealHousewife]

2 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I  felt that hostility also. He is usually so laid back but yikes the way he spoke to Kathy when she asked about grillling the corn. Then when Kyle brought up the Instagram unfollowing and started the whole argument Kathy came out with this is not important. She said you all need to get over yourselves or something to that effect. Shortly therafter Kyle pulled one of her favorite moves by storming away in anger.  I think there was already a crack in the Kathy/Kyle relationship beofre the trip. 

I've noticed Kyle being snappy towards Kathy two episodes in a row now. I obviously don't know these sisters, but Kathy seems like the nicer, laidback one to me. 

Edited September 2, 2022 by RealHousewife

[Jel]

I think Kyle is the most manipulative HW on the show. I think she establishes the "right" relationships, on and off screen, and then uses them to her advantage.  Everyone Kyle has had a problem with, or who became too popular for KYle's liking, is now off the show: Camille, Brandi, Carelton, Kim, Lisa Vanderpump, Denise Richards, and it seems like she's working on Sutton this year.  Maybe Kathy too.  She likes to keep the unpopular HWs around -- Dorit, Teddi, Rinna, and now Erika. It can't be a coincidence that she has or soon develops  problems with the HWs that viewers like and is besties with those the viewers dislike. Maybe one season, even two or three, but this many? No, I think the pattern is just too obvious to ignore now.

Edited September 2, 2022 by Jel

[Cheyanne11]

9 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I've noticed Kyle being snappy towards Kathy two episodes in a row now. I obviously don't know these sisters, but Kathy seems like the nicer, laidback one to me.

I saw a comment on Reddit noting that when Kyle led Kathy to the bunk bed room she was hoping Kathy would say something to again deem her "high maintenance" and Kathy didn't bite.  I think there's validity to that.  

[RealHousewife]

2 hours ago, Jel said:

I think Kyle is the most manipulative HW on the show. I think she establishes the "right" relationships, on and off screen, and then uses them to her advantage.  Everyone Kyle has had a problem with, or who became too popular for KYle's liking, is now off the show: Camille, Brandi, Carelton, Kim, Lisa Vanderpump, Denise Richards, and it seems like she's working on Sutton this year.  Maybe Kathy too.  She likes to keep the unpopular HWs around -- Dorit, Teddi, Rinna, and now Erika. It can't be a coincidence that she has or soon develops  problems with the HWs that viewers like and is besties with those the viewers dislike. Maybe one season, even two or three, but this many? No, I think the pattern is just too obvious to ignore now.

I think you're totally right. Early on, I thought Kyle was jealous of popularity and/or looks. She IS beautiful and gets lots of attention, but she had a pattern of only gelling with less popular Housewives and clashing with the beautifully built blondes. She and Camille were like oil and water, and she hated Brandi on sight. At the time, she said it was out of loyalty to Vanderpump. Sure. lol She never had Vanderpump's back before or after, so I call bs on that. 

I don't think she's jealous of looks so much anymore. As ugly as her personality can be, Erika is a beautiful woman. Ditto Dorit. But fans don't like them. Kyle liked Sutton more in the beginning, but she likes her less as her popularity grew. Same with Brandi. When Brandi was the new girl who hadn't done a thing, she cackled over her. She was still not great with Brandi when she became a fan favorite. Kyle warmed up to Brandi as the seasons went on and Brandi's behavior became worse and she lost fans. 

Stupid things like what Denise Richards had at parties were an issue for Kyle. Denise dolling up was an issue for Kyle. I totally understood "I'm Denise fucking Richards" Kyle. She may not live for glam or be obsessed with money, but Denise is known for her beauty, cleaning up well, and has the money to throw her kids nice parties. 

I agree with the posts that some people like Kyle probably don't care for Garcelle due to her popularity either, but they tread a little more softly with her due to race. Garcelle even said she felt that season 1. I don't think Kyle is racist personally. I think she's an equal opportunity offender, and she prefers to offend whoever fans like the most.

Kyle hated that Vanderpump manipulated story, but she does it more than anyone. She just hated that Vanderpump was more graceful about it and fans took to her more. 

Edited September 2, 2022 by RealHousewife

[RoseAllDay]

37 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

I've noticed Kyle being snappy towards Kathy two episodes in a row now. I obviously don't know these sisters, but Kathy seems like the nicer, laidback one to me. 

And probably more popular with viewers, too. Don’t think Kyle doesn’t see that. 

How petty is it when she faults Kathy for asking for — gasp! — utensils and napkins? If it had been me, I would have just eaten with my fingers then wiped my mouth on the tablecloth. Would serve Vyle right. Her passive-aggressiveness sucks.

And the corn….🙄. As Ben and Ronnie (Watch What Crappens) said, as little and as slowly as they all eat, the corn would have been ready in plenty of time. That whole dinner scene was a big ball of ridiculousness.

 

[Glama]

21 hours ago, Hiyo said:

Remember how they all agreed that Brandi was just being honest when she called Kyle a c*nt back in the season 5 reunion?

Andy needs to ask Kyle this question!

[byrd]

On 8/28/2022 at 9:10 AM, jewel21 said:

Airdate: 08/31/2022

SUTTON !! SUTTON !! SUTTON !!! did let the bitches see you cry !!!!! You should have said F you Diana, I have apologized for that , so fuck you because you keep bringing this shit up !!! 

[byrd]

On 8/31/2022 at 7:30 PM, Surrealist said:

I'm with Diana. I would get a hotel room. These women cannot go without fighting on these trips. Staying in the same place, overnight, with any of them would test my nerves.

yea ! but Diana starts the shit .

[Yours Truly]

20 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

You unfollowed  me on Insta is the new social diss of women over 40? lol seriously people we sat through an argument with GROWN women over 40 and 50 fighting about why you unfollowed me .. think of how god damn ridiculous that is for a moment lol 

Which is what Kathy actually took time to point out. She finished her thought with "Who Cares??" and I loved it! Or course they didn't let that be the final word on it cause it would have just left them looking stupid so in an attempt to get the nonsense back on track Kyle snatched up the convo and either Kyle or Dorit then said something along the lines of "its the underlying intention that we are trying to get to the bottom of" and I immediately rolled my eyes so hard I now need glasses due to the bruising.

[pasdetrois]

5 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I think there was already a crack in the Kathy/Kyle relationship beofre the trip

Starting with Mauricio leaving Rick's agency, starting his own agency, and taking all of Rick's clients.

[Keywestclubkid]

4 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Do yourselves a favor and listen to the Watch What Crappens podcast about this episode. 

There’s a lot to unpack because Ben and Ronnie go all over the place, but my takeaways:

* Up until now the FFF have always been able to turn everything around on whoever their victim du jour is (LVP, Denise, Sutton) to make themselves look totally innocent of the shit they set in motion in the attempt to get someone to leave. That is not working this time, with both Sutton and Garcelle calling them on their BS. Everybody can see what’s going on.

* The double standards are getting out of control. Behavior that they excuse some for, they turn around and roast someone else.

* This season is showing Kyle for the true shit-stirrer that she is. Show’s not even trying to hide it.

* Ben and Ronnie HATE Diana with the heat of a million suns. They are unsparing. She is trash, among other things. They’re over Kyle, too.

* They suggest the following changes: When the show is done, put it on hiatus. Thoroughly clean house — to put it gently, based on their description, it needs a high colonic. Get rid of Rinna (may already have been done), Erika, and Diana. Keep Kyle, but take out all her cheerleaders — and Kyle does need those three for a cover. 

* Social media is killing this show, because of the cast. They compared it to NY (I don’t watch NY anymore, so I don’t get the reference, but still agree with the opinion of social media). 

As usual, don’t listen at work unless you want people to think you’re nuts when they hear you laughing out loud. These guys can be hilarious. Oh, and Rinna has blocked both on Insta….but that’s OK I guess, because that’s not the same as unfollowing, and she has good reasons, and it wasn’t Garcelle or Sutton doing it…..(see double standards above).
 

“You wouldn’t do what Diana? You wouldn’t laugh about putting your clothes on backwards and lick your face thirty times in two minutes like  the cat that crawled through a fence made out of lint?”
 

I laughed soooooo hard at that part in the podcast 

and NY was “paused” (looking around to make sure Dorinda isn’t anywhere near me) with the reunion canceled last year because it got super toxic and racist… Dallas got completely canceled for the same reason tho 

Edited September 2, 2022 by Keywestclubkid

[realityplease]

2 hours ago, byrd said:

SUTTON !! SUTTON !! SUTTON !!! did let the bitches see you cry !!!!! You should have said F you Diana, I have apologized for that , so fuck you because you keep bringing this shit up !!! 

Or maybe when called a c*nt by Diana (after another re-hashing of miscarriage from hell), Sutton should have just plastered a smug look on her face, licked her lips, and said, "So you say."

I still don't get how Kyle can "respect" what Diana said as being "honest."  Being honest is telling the truth.  What Diana stated was just her nasty, crude opinion - not truth.  So cut the crap Kyle and be a better friend instead of an 'executive producer."

Edited September 2, 2022 by realityplease

[sistermagpie]

5 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

Do yourselves a favor and listen to the Watch What Crappens podcast about this episode. 

Finally listened and I'd forgotten about the Ouija board that Rinna claims was just in her guestroom, like it was a surprise. Don't any of these people watch horror movies? If the ouija board just appeared in your room and you don't know from where it means Captain Howdy put it there and DON'T PLAY WITH IT!

[Surrealist]

7 hours ago, sugarbaker design said:

Bambi, Romeo, Luna and River recently unfollowed Kyle and Dorrit on Instagram.

OMG. 💀💀💀

8 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Then when Kyle brought up the Instagram unfollowing and started the whole argument Kathy came out with this is not important. She said you all need to get over yourselves or something to that effect. 

She did. So far, Kathy has been the voice of reason among them.