S19.E04: Flower Power

[FormerMod-a1]

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For their fourth challenge, the designers show up to discover their work room has been flower flashed; the designers must create their own unique floral print from scratch and turn it into a high-end runway look.

Original air date: November 4, 2021

[WaltersHair]

"I want to design flowers over a checker board." says the designer who is wearing a blouse with flowers over a checkerboard. WTF?

[Emmeline]

11 hours ago, WaltersHair said:

"I want to design flowers over a checker board." says the designer who is wearing a blouse with flowers over a checkerboard. WTF?

I noticed that too.
 

For the life of me I cannot imagine what adult demographic Katie would design for.  Young children are the only one it might work.  

Edited November 5, 2021 by Emmeline

[Wicked]

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On 11/3/2021 at 3:38 PM, aquarian1 said:

Original air date: November 4, 2021

 

[Emmeline]

Can some tell me how they selected their models?  Do they have the same one every week or does it change

[Lamb18]

That checkerboard fabric has a picnic table cloth vibe.

Christian was spot on in Katie's critique. I was thinking who would wear that, even what child would wear that? But I like her so I hope she does well.

Closeup of checkerboard print, the flowers are hidden and subdued against the blare of the checkerboard.

The pseudo Georgia O'Keefe lady parts print - I am waiting for the judges' comment. That one girl asking about the ding dong (ha).

[CraftyHazel]

There’s a whole lot of ugly in the workroom tonight, and I’m almost willing to bet that at least 1/3 of what I hate, the judges are going to love.  I’m super girly and absolutely love floral prints, but a lot of these look cheap and tacky.  We’ll see…

[DEL901]

15 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

Can some tell me how they selected their models?  Do they have the same one every week or does it change

They change it up so different folks have the plus sized models and some challenges have male models.  

[Emmeline]

Thank you DEL901, I was hoping that was the case.  
 

[Straycat80]

24 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

Can some tell me how they selected their models?  Do they have the same one every week or does it change

But this week they all ran to a table with the models pictured in a vase and grabbed who they wanted. Somebody asked somebody else if they wanted to trade and they said no. I kinda miss the button bag. 

[CraftyHazel]

Surely…surely…between Prajjé’s mermaid gown and Katie’s clown suit, Prajjé’s is in the top.

[WaltersHair]

I liked Darren's print very much.

Prajje's print reminded me of a repurposed kimono from the 80's

[CraftyHazel]

Katie trying to blame her kindergarten craft project clothing on Christian…

[Emmeline]

Katie is throwing Christian under the bus.  He did persuade her to change up the capris, but it’s her design.  Had she gone with the capri pants and the short jacket it could have worked for a  crazy matador.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Emmeline

[Surrealist]

I won't miss Darren's inappropriate flirting toward Christian.

[Straycat80]

That was one fugly mess of a runway show, I’m not a fan of floral prints, but there wasn’t one look I even somewhat liked. 
So Chantelle wins on a ‘whisper’ of floral print the judges were squinting to see. But it was her sons birthday so…

It was about time Darren went home but the other two bottom hideous looks should have gone home too. I’m getting tired of all the sob stories but Katie throwing Christian under the bus for her clown costume (again) was a bad idea. 

[Michichick]

Darren, inappropriate with Christian until the end. Hilarious that the editors overlaid him saying “more smarter” with him trying tio open the door the wrong way.

Didn’t love anything except that robe was flowy and pretty.

Katie does make things that look crafty and homemade rather than designed. I hate everything she wears and makes.

[CraftyHazel]

I really didn’t like Shantall’s, and with all of the bright colors and exuberant fabrics, hers looked drab and dull to me.  The design was fine, and she fit the pants perfectly, but beyond that it didn’t scream special to me.

I think Chasity was fortunate to have immunity, because her look was trashy, ugly hooker wear.

I liked Coral’s.

Octavio’s was a boring blob.

[Passing Strange]

I wasn't crazy about the actual challenge outfit, but I do want a cooking robe.

[Thumper]

The winner’s look was well made, but did not fit the “floral” theme, IMO.  Irritated that she won.

I am liking Katie more, but I just don’t think her aesthetic is high end or runway.  There is a place for it, though.  I liked the photos of her designs they showed.  Not a fan of the rickrack ornamentation.  
 

[ichbin]

1 hour ago, Emmeline said:

For the life of me I cannot imagine what adult demographic Katie would design for.  Young children are the only it might work.

Every time I look at her I think she is the host of some show targeting pre-schoolers.  

 

[vibeology]

Katie's headbands must be too tight if she thinks her capris would have kept her out of the bottom. She needs to get a job designing costumes for a kid's show. What do pre-schoolers watch besides Paw Patrol?

[TattleTeeny]

Katie’s dress reminded me of those all-in-one-bag Halloween costumes — like “sexy Rainbow Brite” or something. That said, I did like some of what they showed of Katie’s work outside of the show — reminded me a little of Lady Miss Kier from DeeLite!

Edited November 5, 2021 by TattleTeeny

[NYGirl]

I'm sick of the "stories" for each design.  Geez this is why I could never be a designer.  My answer would be "I just designed what I liked".

I'm tired of them telling stories and then crying on the runway.  Give me the first couple of seasons back please.

[buttersister]

Goodbye, Darren, finally!

Katie can go next--those capri pants were fugly. Christian advised her to make something less costumey and she can't. 

[T Summer]

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

That was one fugly mess of a runway show, I’m not a fan of floral prints, but there wasn’t one look I even somewhat liked. 
So Chantelle wins on a ‘whisper’ of floral print the judges were squinting to see. But it was her sons birthday so…

It was about time Darren went home but the other two bottom hideous looks should have gone home too. I’m getting tired of all the sob stories but Katie throwing Christian under the bus for her clown costume (again) was a bad idea. 

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This  post is full of truth! I've been dying  for Darren to be sent home but Katie and Sabrina's looks were  most tragic.

I  liked Zayden's short dress with pouf shawl thing. It would have been stunning in that black and white print Octavio used!

 I  somewhat liked Kristina's kimono robe,  but I didn't see any particular design heights being reached either in the creation of the print or the execution of the robe. A robe is a robe. 🌹I must admit I didn't get showing it over the shiny red jumpsuit.

Anna's china doll look was ok, but I've seen it on PR a few times.

Coral can really sew and fit clothes!

 

lol Gigi said Katie's look was "craftsy".  Ol' girl literally has a glue gun in her hand half the time

btw, did you know Sabrina was from Afghanistan? 🙄 It's like she has some compulsion to repeat it over and over.

 

Edited November 5, 2021 by T Summer
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[estellasmum]

My son figured it out!!!! He was watching the runway with me (it is my daughter's and my "thing" that we watch PR and critique the looks and add commentary during the runway, but she's out of town, so he did his best to take her place) and took one look at Katie and said that she needed to be on LazyTown!! I yelled "that's it" so loud it scared the dogs and brought my husband out of the garage. 

[Stats Queen]

4 minutes ago, estellasmum said:

My son figured it out!!!! He was watching the runway with me (it is my daughter's and my "thing" that we watch PR and critique the looks and add commentary during the runway, but she's out of town, so he did his best to take her place) and took one look at Katie and said that she needed to be on LazyTown!! I yelled "that's it" so loud it scared the dogs and brought my husband out of the garage. 

Had to look up Lazytown. 
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[T Summer]

25 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Had to look up Lazytown. 
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Me too. ☺️

[SemiCharmedLife]

I don't think Shantall should have won with that print- the flowers weren't the focal point.  They were very small and delicate and the print certainly wouldn't be described as a floral print.  I do think her design and craftsmanship were excellent, though. (Walter'sHair, I also noticed that she was partial to that aesthetic!)

I liked Coral's design.  Several of these designers never seem to get much air time.  I guess we can determine who is in the top and bottom by the amount of airtime they receive.  If they are ignored, they are "safe."

Bravo online has a contest in which we can vote for our favorite look and enter a contest. It's nice to see a photo of each look, along with the designers name.

[GaT]

3 hours ago, CraftyHazel said:

Katie trying to blame her kindergarten craft project clothing on Christian…

It actually makes me think of Tim Gunn, I don't know how many times we saw a designer take his advice & end up in the bottom three or even get eliminated. They should never listen to the mentor.

[DeeReynolds]

Some random thoughts:

Darren's print looked like a La Croix can. That's all I could see. 

Gigi Hadid was trying wayyyyy too hard. Personally I think she is gorgeous but her vocal tone and comments left much to be desired.

Katie reminds me of the host of The Big Comfy Couch.

[Refresh]

Darren’s print reminded me of a LaCroix can. 

Katie’s look was a hot mess but I am always curious to see what she’ll do. I give her that! Katie would really thrive with a mentorship. Maybe with Christian. His advice with her has been spot on. I think her prints are fun it’s her silhouettes that miss the mark and veer into toddler because they’re simple, it’s what she can sew in 2 days. 

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Darren's print looked like a La Croix can. That's all I could see. 

ha, DeeReynolds I just saw you posted this! 

Edited November 5, 2021 by Refresh

[Vermicious Knid]

I usually like the make-your-own-fabric challenges, I just wish they weren't constrained to a theme. Hate pink but Kristina's design was sophisticated, and the most versatile of all the prints. That can be made in any shade, imagine in blues or purples it would be fantastic. Loved Anna's the best. I hope she gets to use it for herself after the show. Octavio's print looks almost exactly like a black and white floral mask I got at the dollar store last year.

Even worse, Katie didn't have capri pants, they were long shorts. The skirt was actually much better, but the 'layering' was all her and that was called out specifically. Glad someone pointed out Christian is not the voice of God. They are not obligated to follow his advice. And I think someone had a talk with him, because his critiques were less snobbish and snarky and more straightforward with minimum drama.

Darren's touchpoint is Spongebob? Oy. Oh well, he's gone. Show is doing a good job of eliminating the chaff this time.

[CraftyHazel]

1 minute ago, GaT said:

It actually makes me think of Tim Gunn, I don't know how many times we saw a designer take his advice & end up in the bottom three or even get eliminated. They should never listen to the mentor.

I actually think Christian is a good mentor.  Aside from redesigning their looks, there’s not much more he could do for some of these people.  He told Bones he could not send a crop top and a fit-and-flare skirt down the runway.  He has been telling both Darren and Katie that they need to elevate what they’re doing; it’s not his job to tell them step by step how.

Gigi Hadid was absolutely trying too hard, but that seems to be the idea this season.  Removing the ugly pink skirt from (Anna’s?) the floral jumpsuit with the burqa did not immediately transform that garment from “ewww” to “yasssss, queen!!”, no matter how much they want to pretend it did.

I feel like Katie watched Hester Sunshine make the finale (and even win a swimsuit challenge with a swimsuit with no support or structure…seriously, wtf was that?!) and figured she could do that, too.

And Nina Garcia can miss me with her astonishment that Katie made the dress she was wearing on the runway.  It wasn’t innovative, fresh, or amazing in any way.  It was a Target prairie dress rendered in ugly, mismatched prints.

Sometimes I really miss Michael Kors and his refusal to blow smoke up a designer’s ass because it was her baby’s birthday or his dead mommy willed him his first sewing machine.  Who cares??  I want to be inspired by your talent, not your sob story.
 

[gingerella]

Katy is designing for kindergarten clown school.

The burka catsuit could have been soooo mu h better if she'd had a gauzy olive burka that was full length but open up to the knee and slits all.arohd so the leg part of the print flashed when the model walked. Then at the end of the runway she pulls off the burka to reveal the cat suit in all its glory. Instead, she made a mini burka face shield that covered the entire chest area of the model so you didn't ever see the top part of the cat suit.  WTF was she thinking? It was such a great idea but so poorly presented.

BuhBye Darrin, you need to stop thinking the world wants to fuck you, and learn how to do something.well. just because your sister is a designer doesn't mean you are. Just sayin'...

Edited November 5, 2021 by gingerella

[30 Helens]

On 11/4/2021 at 9:31 PM, Straycat80 said:

That was one fugly mess of a runway show, I’m not a fan of floral prints, but there wasn’t one look I even somewhat liked. 
So Chantelle wins on a ‘whisper’ of floral print the judges were squinting to see. But it was her sons birthday so…

Yes, Shantall is quite a Rockstar. (joke for Big Brother fans only)

I didn’t like any of the looks, either. Even Aaron let me down. And all the effort to turn that poofy kimono into a practical wardrobe choice just made me laugh. It’s a house gown! It’s a cooking robe! (Sure, until the sleeves catch on fire.) I don’t know whose house I would wear that in, but it’s definitely not mine.

Shantall’s design didn’t really fit the theme (and I never saw the “petals” she claimed were there), but I think it was just the best look in a bad bunch, so she got the win. 

On 11/5/2021 at 12:52 AM, GaT said:

They should never listen to the mentor.

They should always listen to the mentor, because the mentor has a critical, objective eye and can often see things the designers can’t. But that doesn’t mean they should follow the mentor’s advice to the letter— or even at all, sometimes. It takes a certain level of confidence to hear good advice and apply it in a way that suits your vision, while still maintaining control of the process. Katie does not have that confidence, unfortunately for her. 

Edited November 6, 2021 by 30 Helens
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[Kaiju Ballet]

1 hour ago, SemiCharmedLife said:

Bravo online has a contest in which we can vote for our favorite look and enter a contest. It's nice to see a photo of each look, along with the designers name.

Thanks! I tried to screenshot and paste the files here, but they were too big :(   Instead, here's the link:https://www.bravotv.com/project-runway/viewers-verdict# and some random thoughts

1- Anna and her TV husbands? Her print really was pretty, and I was surprised her look was "safe". Like Prajje's, I didn't know if it would be "top" or "bottom" if it weren't.

2- Aaron is continually underlooked, even though I really like how he meets challenges. If I "had" to wear one of the designers, he'd be my choice this season.

3- Bone's top was typical Bones (and very cooking robe as a top) but he should have been dinged for pairing it with a solid black tube skirt. 

4- Chasity's intention sounded like what Coral actually executed, my personal favorite.

5- I like Darren's personal style, but that thing he put out on the runway was seriously fug......

6-.....but not as fug as Clown Heather Sunshine's, and I don't care for her personal style either. I was happy that one of the designers opined that it was uncool to blame that fug look on Christian, and even happier when the judges threw the responsibility for that back onto her.

7- I like Zayden, but that dress was shorter than a t-shirt.

[LennieBriscoe]

What a completely bogus episode. 😠

Under no normal  circumstances or use of the English language would the winning design be described as one that "embraces floral print." Maybe an "embrace" a "Little Rascals" kid would reluctantly give to an old Society dame. 😕

Nor was it even a claimed "checkerboard." It was a diamond pattern. A diamond pattern exactly as Shantall was wearing at the time.🔷🔷🔷🔷

Were I another designer there---good, safe, or bad---I would be massively PO'ed at TPTB, their having gone to elaborate lengths to establish the theme:

Floral arrangements everywhere when they meet special guest Leslie Miller, "Flower Flash" guy, a designer known for his "Banksy-style" urban pop-ups of abundant flowers, who later checks the contestants' work; and having the designers take photographs of and/#or sketch from bouquets all over the workroom. 🌹 🌼🌷🌸🌺

Moreover, what was up with two designers having difficulty in getting the fabric manufacturer to understand explicit instructions? "Keep the yellow." "Yes, we get rid of yellow." "No! KEEP the yellow!" "We take out the yellow." "NOOO!"......😲

The judges waited a couple weeks to get rid of Darren. Katie won't be so lucky. I mean, "Christian told me to"?  Prediction: Next episode is her last. 😉

Edited November 5, 2021 by LennieBriscoe

[LennieBriscoe]

Random episode thoughts:

---Aaron's outfit was beautiful Viking Caribbean Cruise wear, and I mean that as a compliment. 🙌

---Afghan Girl found out that, in fashion, we're more sympathetic to Haitians. 😐 

---WTH is a "cooking robe"? One whose sleeves catch on fire or dip into the gravy? 😛

---I haven't liked any outfit yet on a larger model. 😦

---Shantall was 1st Runner-Up in "Project Runway Latin America"?! Ringer! 🔔

---Who is Coral? 👻

 

 

Edited November 5, 2021 by LennieBriscoe

[lilwhitelion]

I was really surprised Prajje's was one of the favorites.  A mermaid silhouette is nothing innovative.  The print was fine. 

What bugged me the most was seeing the white reverse of the fabric on the sleeves.  He should have lined them with a blue fabric similar to the background of his print.

Was so hoping one of the judges would tell Chasity (before the safe designers left the runway) that she was lucky she had immunity this week.

[Lassus]

I mean, I (almost) never, EVER complain about the judging.  But holy god in hell, what in the holy fuck are you group of blind Angel Hernandez wannabes looking at here?  Bones and last week's winner were HORRENDOUS and should have been BELOW the bottom.  Did Hadid bring a bunch of bad coke to the taping for everyone?  EDIT: And the awful shoulder puffs being safe?  GAH!

Just fucking awful.  The winner was the only one who DIDN'T DO THE ASSIGNMENT. The losers were like the 4th and 5th worst looks.   AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHH! 

Really disappointing.

9 hours ago, NYGirl said:

I'm tired of them telling stories and then crying on the runway.

YES

Edited November 5, 2021 by Lassus

[Lassus]

6 hours ago, CraftyHazel said:

I actually think Christian is a good mentor.

Totally agree, I think he's been great. 

I really DON'T have the hate everyone else has for Katie, I think there's a real market for her big, fun prints.  The montage of her PR images I thought looked great.  I just DON'T think she's any kind of competition designer, and it's getting badly into her head. 

I honestly think that with as good as Christian has been, sometimes it just puts certain designs and designers of a certain mindset - of which Katie is in spades - in a bad spot.  They ignore Christian and lose, they are shit on for ignoring Christian; they listen to Christian and lose, they are shit on for listening to Christian.  She just doesn't have the confidence to work in a speedy gear and get around that problem.

Edited November 5, 2021 by Lassus

[pasdetrois]

I thought this runway would be beautiful, and it wasn't. I wonder if the designers had to wait on their fabric before they could decide how to pattern or drape, and that slowed their process down.

I loved the cooking robe's print. The rest of the prints were fairly ugly.

Katie's aesthetic reminds me of Betsey Johnson. Production recruited her as camera fodder, because she's not ready for the pace or the process. On her own time she does interesting stuff.

Loved Brandon's "southern girl" comments. We do love our big hair and bright makeup. We are fatally unhip.

Gigi acted as if she had just escaped the clutches of her lunatic mother.

Edited November 5, 2021 by pasdetrois

[Emmeline]

10 hours ago, Surrealist said:

I won't miss Darren's inappropriate flirting toward Christian.

Really, someone should tell him to watch that out in the real world.  You can’t do that these days.  

[Pj3422]

10 hours ago, ichbin said:

Every time I look at her I think she is the host of some show targeting pre-schoolers.  

 

Miss Frizzle. (the Magic School Bus) 

[DEL901]

I always feel bad for contestants like Katie (unless they are obnoxious), because they are a bad fit for this or any other reality show.  But that isn’t their fault.  Some producer chose them, knowing they were a bad fit and hoping for drama.   

[Fellaway]

Elaine: We judges all agree this is the most talented group of designers ever on PR!

Well, Elaine, I think that says just as much about the quality of the current judging panel as it does about the designers, because, no.

Ye, gads, I didn't like anything on the runway last night, not the prints nor the designs. I would've so preferred if they'd been tasked with using actual flowers for their designs. Not that I think many of this group would be up to the task. And, maybe it's just me, but I hate seeing the white underside of a print fabric in a finished product. Makes the fabric look cheap.

If I were a designer, I'd kill to have Mimi as my model. She's been the best thing so far this season.

[Lassus]

5 minutes ago, Fellaway said:

Ye, gads, I didn't like anything on the runway last night, not the prints nor the designs.

I mean, subjective and all, but I think this is a pretty GOOD group of designers, and I certainly liked a decent percentage of what I saw on the runway.

[backgroundnoise]

Which judge was it that said the bathrobe was a red carpet outfit?  I demand they wear one to their next event.

I liked the print for the robe, BUT IT WAS A ROBE.  Maybe a high-end look robe?  Robe was fine but looked really odd over that sparkly wierd dress and pants.

Scratching my head at how Prajje's was in any way, shape or form fresh or innovative.   Boo judges.

No more talk of relatives at all, or sob stories of any kind.  Boo producers.  Boo judges for encouraging any of that.

Darren was even flirting with his graphic designer.  Does he have a syndrome or something?