S10.E09: Until We Leave Again

[TexasGal]

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Denise and Aaron’s hasty departure from Kyle's barbecue leaves the other ladies confused and unsettled. Kyle helps Kim through a delicate medical procedure, while Lisa and Erika have a distinctively Beverly Hills “procedure” of their own. Garcelle moves into her new house. Aaron awkwardly comes face to face with Erika and Teddi at Sutton's trunk show.

Airdate 07.08.2020

[Mindthinkr]

I really really hope that the wait was worth it. 

[Straycat80]

Wait, what does Denise mean about ‘cancer’, did I miss something? 
Erika who goes on stage half naked is criticizing Denise for going to a strip club? 

Edited July 9, 2020 by Straycat80

[Mindthinkr]

Steak and a strip bar, hey it cures everything 🙀

3 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

 

[nexxie]

Why do the producers think we want to see all kinds of procedures?! 

(Did enjoy seeing Kyle and Kim laughing together.)

[Kiki777]

I’m sure that crack about steak and a strip club was a joke or a casual comment, but like the immature children they are, the women took that and blew it up.  God Rinna is fcking annoying.

And I just saw Kim’s bewbs.  Ick.

[Wicked]

Aaron is awful, but I have to give him props, he knows how to teach a teenager to drive, which is no small feat

 

[nexxie]

Rinna is pathetic.

No shame in her game - and no depth either.

Edited July 9, 2020 by nexxie

[Straycat80]

Denise’s daughter seems so mature, kudos to Denise as a Mom. 
I guess this epi is all about weird procedures, zzzzz. 

[FlyingEgret]

1 minute ago, Wicked said:

Aaron is awful, but I have to give him props, he knows how to teach a teenager to drive, which is no small feat

 

Agree.  Letting Sammi determine her comfort zone and not making her feel like an idiot goes a long way.  Maybe he can work at the DMV if the whole "cancer is your friend" thing doesn't work out...

[Mr. Miner]

I just saw Kim. Yuck!

[LibertarianSlut]

If everything in life is too trivial for a couple where one “deals with cancer,” then what the fuck is Denise doing on one of the most trivial reality TV shows on Bravo?  Isn’t it all, be definition, too trivial when juxtaposed against cancer?  What an obnoxious argument.  

Erika was right that Tom wouldn’t be caught dead treating his wife’s friends the way Aaron did.

I love Aaron giving the time line of when everyone should move on.  Does he think he’s Andy Cohen?

The point in the tent that Rinna was driving at, if I may break the fourth wall for a moment, is that Denise and Aaron said on camera that they were going to a strip club, not whether they actually went to a strip club from Kyle’s barbecue.  I have no idea where they draw their line in their sand (strip clubs = cool, threesomes = no no), so how can the rest of the cast know?

Not to be too nit picky about Dorit’s closet, but if she has to give away four pairs of shoes and put some of her coats in PK’s closet from inception, then it’s not as aspirational as it could be.  I would assume someone who was actually rich would have a custom built closet with ample space.  

Kim looks like she’s well over 60 to me.  If I was hazarding a guess, I would put her at 65 or higher.  I could never, ever stand there topless with my sister in a doctor’s office, and I assume I would need eye bleach if I had to see my sister topless, unless it was a serious medical situation, not cosmetic/medical.  Who just stands up with their lab coat completely open, making idle conversation, with their necklaces and breasts out on display together?  That would just freak everyone I know out.  Why did we get so much Kim this episode?  There are seven women plus a friend.  Was this part of the hiatus remix?  Fail!  I’d rather see Lisa Rinna running around barefoot.  

Aaron to Sami:  “Don’t do what I do, like, ever.”  First time Aaron has made any sense to me all season.  

I was bored by Erika and Lisa’s procedure—call me old school, but nothing makes you skinnier except diet, exercise and liposuction.  Nothing noninvasive is going to lift that bony ass for more than a few minutes.  

Not a huge fan of Garcelle’s 3,200 square foot house in the valley, other than the brand new interior.  The lot looked tiny, with no greenery in sight.  Her neighbor could lean out her window to lend her a cup of sugar.  We’re not exactly in Adrienne Malouf territory anymore.  

These women acting stupid, as opposed to one step away from alcohol poisoning on every episode, like RHNYC, is a welcome respite.

[bravofan27]

When Denise got there, she said she and Aaron were going to have a night out. Maybe getting steaks was a bit of slam, given they were there for dinner, but maybe that's what a night out is to them. Once they left, all the ladies did was talk about them, and then do weird things in a room. I was thinking it looked kind of sad. I even told my husband that I think Denise was definitely having a better time. It was just a room of old ladies trying to seem like they were having fun.

I don't think Rinna is dumb and I don't think she's a horrible person, but I do think she tries way too hard. She would probably be further in her career if she just played it cool  when the attention was on her. Once she has the spotlight, she runs around, cackles, picks fights, argues, whatever it is , it's too much.

I think her running around at Kyle's party was her way of burning off the 5 bites of food she probably ate. Maybe she's an exercise bulimic. She looked really stupid, IMO, as an older woman, sprinting around Kyle's yard for no reason. She's not playing football. No one is racing her.

Garcelle is really sweet and funny. She has the patience of an angel to put up with these women. She's probably blessing the lord she isn't white. Her kids seem nice, and she talks to them like real people. Kyle talks to her kids like they are babies that have to need her-- she tries to hard with her kids to make them love her.

I realized that Ericka's voice is grating. It's like a mix of Fran Dresher and Dolly Parton. She has the most horrible voice ever. Her "sexy" drawl sound like she's picking up a guy at a truck stop. Can't Big Tom put her in some manners class like most of the rich men do for their uncouth wives. She's just too gross.

The desperation from Rinna and Erica must be warranted for them to bring in Kim, doing the exciting boob job. OMG. That's all you got! Probably Lisa Rinna is pissed that Kim Richards has a wider fan base then she does. There are die hard Kim Richards fans. Rinna never really got there. I know her from Days of Our Lives and Home Shopping.

The ladies looking at Aaron after Denise left like they were about to get in trouble was priceless. I have to give major props to Aaron for helping Denise out with these idiot ladies and these them storylines that they are determined to play out. OMG, I'd probably quit too if I were Denise. They are just all trying too hard to make issues from nothing.

 

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by bravofan27

[nexxie]

Really? The one wearing a bejeweled tablecloth is worried about Teddi’s style choices?

[Mr. Miner]

49 minutes ago, Mindthinkr said:

I really really hope that the wait was worth it. 

It totally was not! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Rhetorica]

Well, that was a waste of time...

[whydoievencare]

The four - five? women going after Aaron - good for him for standing up for himself all while being cool about it.  Erika says in her TH - "what - are you trying to intimidate me?" - when in fact that's usually her schtick. "Are you going to hit me?" - that wasn't at all the situation - so why would Erika say that - Karening the situation much?  I can't stand that the hive mind won't leave Denise (and Aaron) alone about what happened several weeks ago - they won't let things go -  I guess at least until Denise agrees with them about their point of view.  These women are vile.

Edited July 9, 2020 by whydoievencare

[nexxie]

3 minutes ago, whydoievencare said:

The four - five? women going after Aaron - good for him for standing up for himself all while being cool about it.  Erika says in her TH - "what - are you trying to intimidate me?" - when in fact that's usually her schtick. "Are you going to hit me?" - that wasn't at all the situation - so why would Erika say that - Karening the situation much?  I can't stand that the hive mind won't leave Denise (and Aaron) alone about what happened several weeks ago - they won't let things go -  I guess at least until Denise agrees with them about their point of view.  These women are vile.

Seemed like Erika was projecting.

[Michichick]

I’m on Denise’s side. This pile of fake-ass women wants to claim Denise is being fake when all she wants is to move on from their petty bullshit. You’re coworkers, not friends. Just make nice in public and then shit talk each other in “private” you dopes.

[Ohiopirate02]

I get what Denise is doing here.  She is stuck in this circular argument with the women, and the only way to end it is to walk away.  She has calmly stated her case, but she is not giving them the answer they want.  Walking away is her only option.   And the viewers are stuck watching the same shit as last season with LVP.  Yawn.

[LibertarianSlut]

I liked Sutton’s shade to Teddi that she was having a real event with a real invitation that they showed onscreen.  I feel like Teddi loses her way really easily, and needs to be reminded how to be assertive without being an asshole. 

I know I’m in the minority, but I like this franchise better than NYC right now.  These women, for the most part, have husbands and relationships, and when Dorit mentioned that she moved to Italy after finishing “university” 🤮, I realize these women may be more educated than their New York counterparts.  I know that Sonja and Ramona went to FIT on the other franchise (and I’m not even sure if Sonja graduated), so I think that’s about a college graduation rate of 20%.  I think—and I haven’t done an extensive background dive—that all the women on this franchise have gone to college, even if they didn’t graduate, save Kyle, who, as she told us in season one “didn’t get to go to college.”  Cry me a river, Kyle.  But there is a stability factor, and an education factor, as fragile as they may be, on this franchise, that is noticeably lacking on the other.  

Denise bringing Aaron to consecutive events now sends the message that she’s wielding her husband like a weapon.  She either feels weak, or like she doesn’t want to do this, and the sharks are smelling blood in the water.  Does she realize there would be no show if everyone let sleeping dogs lie?  I actually think Denise is much better on her own.  When Kyle said she felt weird that Denise left her party early, Denise just shot back that Kyle left Denise’s party early, so they’re even.  That’s so much more entertaining to me than a rogue husband.  

I love the way Erika handled Aaron.  It was very direct, but not aggressive or hysterical, which was the way she was with PK a couple of seasons back.

Aaron was definitely trying to intimidate the ladies at Kyle’s barbecue, and I’m really glad Erika and Teddi stood their ground against him at Sutton’s party, in a non-threatening way.  He can’t seem to hold his own in an argument. 

One thing Aaron did that I hate was to repeat “moral high ground” and “can you let me talk to Denise?” with “Really?  Really?  Do you want to go there?  Do you want to go there right now?”  It’s passive-aggressive and it’s a way to buy time when someone doesn’t know how to respond.  If I say something to a woman or a man, I find it an incredible waste of time for them to repeat it to me with a “Really?”  Whenever anyone’s said that to me, I’ve always snapped them out of it by saying, “Just assume I mean everything I say from this point forward.”  

Where the hell was Aaron going to go with Teddi vis a vis the moral high ground anyway?  Teddi is, in my opinion, a baby and a punk, but she doesn’t suffer from such low moral character that she shouldn’t be the first to address someone else saying it about her.  Who does Aaron think he’s dealing with, The Morally Corrupt Faye Resnick?

Once again, Denise is crushing Aaron’s hand and they’re leaving an event early because of the cameras.  The more things change, the more they stay the same. Is this going to be their MO for the rest of the season?  Then Erika is right and they should probably just not talk to her anymore.  Surviving this show is not for sissies.  Everyone has had to take their season being a hated housewife.  Just ask Camille.  Denise needs to be able to hold her own without her husband, or she should exit stage left IMO.  

[goofygirl]

What a snoozefest.  Stick a fork in me. I'm done.  I'll just come here and read the snark from now on!

[Thumper]

Just watching now.  I like Sutton’s dress at her event. What exactly is this event, though?

Oh great, now we have to rehash AGAIN at a public event. 🥺😫😫

[nexxie]

imo Denise made a mistake by backtracking and saying it’s not that she thinks the kids shouldn’t be around them - that just encouraged the snakes to keep hissing at her. She should’ve stuck with her original stance.

[The Ringo Kidd]

Aaron illustrates how he is a great stepfather by how a balky teen listened to him when learning to drive. His relationship with these girls is very sweet and inspiring. When Eloise was overjoyed at being able to say “Daddy” on Father’s Day was so much more meaningful than the nattering of toxic twats in Rhinestones and leopard print wrap dresses.

Denise should have left Aaron out of it. He seemed totally nonplussed that none of the other husbands were around. 

[Michichick]

I thought Kyle was disgusting when she made her mother’s cancer all about herself, whining about how she wishes her mom had been more stoic instead of being afraid to die. It’s not the terminally-ill person’s job to comfort her adult child. Losing a parent is hard.  But the way Kyle talked about it was gross.

[Callaphera]

None of the ladies are coming out ahead in this threesomegate and Aaron's mansplain-y tone definitely takes him out of the race altogether but the real losers in this situation are us, the viewers. NO ONE CARES, SHOW. I'd rather watch Rinna's ass cheeks twerk via a Doctor Ho infomercial product for the whole hour rather than watch Kyle try to do the wide eye innocent "I just want to talk about it" routine and Erika act like the ready to rumble Tough Girl. I did snort a little at Teddi's "moral high ground" bit, like what, is she afraid someone is coming for her place in the group? 

The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills: Where they don't just beat the horse to a greasy gross pulp, they wait for it to come back from the Elmer's Glue factory to beat it some more. 

[Thumper]

20 minutes ago, Michichick said:

I thought Kyle was disgusting when she made her mother’s cancer all about herself, whining about how she wishes her mom had been more stoic instead of being afraid to die. It’s not the terminally-ill person’s job to comfort her adult child. Losing a parent is hard.  But the way Kyle talked about it was gross.

Yes, I was uncomfortable with this segment.  From what I have read (here), they had  a complicated relationship.  Their mom was not so great, but they still loved her.  Is Kyle trying to rewrite the reality?

Shallow question — was Kyle blonde for awhile?  Thought I saw a photo of her with Mom, as a blonde.

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by Thumper

[Hero]

Kim looks sooo bad! All that shit she did to her face aged her so much. 

[suomi]

I've never seen a resemblance to their mom in photos where she is older but I see it in this younger photo. The eyes. 

RHOBH: Kyle Richards Fears for Kim as She Has Implants Removed - 'I Lost My Mom to Breast Cancer'

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/celebrity/rhobh-kyle-richards-fears-for-kim-as-she-has-implants-removed-—-i-lost-my-mom-to-breast-cancer/ar-BB16vs4W?li=BBnb7Kz

[Callaphera]

3 minutes ago, Thumper said:

Shallow question — was Kyle blonde for awhile?  Thought I saw a phot of her with Mom, as a blonde.

"Blonde" seems generous. That looked like an unholy yellow orange combination that only occurs when a teenager is armed with angsty rebellion and a box of Blondissima. 

[Pondlass1]

I guess Denise was contracted & obligated to attend the Sutton thing, but why bring combative hubby? No other men there.

Does Kyle wear coloured contacts? Her eyes appear brown as a child in photos, but hazel now? Maybe it’s my TV.
Sister Kim looks every bit her age, but kudos to her for allowing to be filmed au naturale. Dorit would never allow such a thing! Glam squad all the way...

Rinna has to be the most Look at meeeeeeeee! annoying housewife. Gah!
Erika is hard as nails.
 

 

[The Ringo Kidd]

Erika is so full of it that it is ludicrous.

She wouldn’t say shit if she had a mouthful if Tom was there. He treats her like a child.

[Lady of nod]

1 hour ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I get what Denise is doing here.  She is stuck in this circular argument with the women, and the only way to end it is to walk away.  She has calmly stated her case, but she is not giving them the answer they want.  Walking away is her only option.   And the viewers are stuck watching the same shit as last season with LVP.  Yawn.

Yes yes yes. The circular argument. That should be the name of this show. She's done talking about it. I would be too. I'd be walking away too. Like LVP did. Like Denise is probably going to do. These bitches are so exhausting and vapid (save Garcelle). And now next week we have to see Brandy? 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Kim’s doctor should have worn a white lab coat while he was examining her.

[Caseysgirl]

Rinna is no friend. She couldn’t wait to run back to the girls after allegedly trying to cajole Denise into coming back to the witch hunt and tell them that “ horrors” that Denice was going to a strip club. And former stripper and devoted mother Ericka clutches her pearls. Denise knows what’s happening - they’ll burn her at the stake for the rest of the season and the only way to stop it is to exit. There are no friends in this group - hell, Kyle got rid of her best friend AND her sister.

[HeddaGabler]

I feel like I joined these forums just in time to see these housewives franchises implode. These guys have been beating the dead horse that is Denise's dinner party for months. Months! They are boring and repetitive. There's nothing left to care about with them. I used to love all the real estate and shopping trips, and now we've got Dorit in her non-Beverly Hills House telling us that she definitely 100% has soooo many shoes for her new closet. So many, guys. Didn't you see them in that split second camera pan? Gone are the days of seeing Lisa Vanderpump's closet that this the size of my house, and watching her put tiny horses on private jets, etc.

I did notice that Kyle was sure to keep her Birken bag in clear camera view during Kim's doctor appointment. 

[TomGirl]

I loathe Rinna, but OMG, she looked absolutely amazing in that gorgeous gown from Sutton’s place.

[biakbiak]

Seriously what would have the conversation at Kyle’s party would have been without them leaving? They literally can’t stop talking about her complaint at any event they are at!! 

[hoodooznoodooz]

What kind of car did they show us after the Kyle/Kim-driving-to-the-doctor’s-office sequence? It was matte black and in the foreground. Beautiful.

Rinna looked so stupid with those paddles bouncing up and down on her rear. My sister is a surgeon, and it still surprises her whenever her patients show up for appointments in a thong.

[princelina]

1 hour ago, Callaphera said:

None of the ladies are coming out ahead in this threesomegate and Aaron's mansplain-y tone definitely takes him out of the race altogether but the real losers in this situation are us, the viewers. NO ONE CARES, SHOW. I'd rather watch Rinna's ass cheeks twerk via a Doctor Ho infomercial product for the whole hour rather than watch Kyle try to do the wide eye innocent "I just want to talk about it" routine and Erika act like the ready to rumble Tough Girl. I did snort a little at Teddi's "moral high ground" bit, like what, is she afraid someone is coming for her place in the group? 

The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills: Where they don't just beat the horse to a greasy gross pulp, they wait for it to come back from the Elmer's Glue factory to beat it some more. 

Haha she should be happy - wasn't it so hard last year that it brought her to tears? 😄 

2 hours ago, Michichick said:

I thought Kyle was disgusting when she made her mother’s cancer all about herself, whining about how she wishes her mom had been more stoic instead of being afraid to die. It’s not the terminally-ill person’s job to comfort her adult child. Losing a parent is hard.  But the way Kyle talked about it was gross.

 

1 hour ago, Thumper said:

Yes, I was uncomfortable with this segment.  From what I have read (here), they had  a complicated relationship.  Their mom was not so great, but they still loved her.  Is Kyle trying to rewrite the reality?

My take on that was that Kyle was sad and sorry for her mom.  My thoughts when watching was that Big Kathy was as selfish with them in death as she was in life!

[HeddaGabler]

40 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

Seriously what would have the conversation at Kyle’s party would have been without them leaving? They literally can’t stop talking about her complaint at any event they are at!! 

I know I've said this before (so excuse the broken record) but these women don't read books, don't have any life experiences that they can talk about, they don't make observations about life, they have the worst senses of humour I've seen. Their "output" is so boring because there is basically zero "input" in their life. Kyle seems to spend zero time with her kids, so there's nothing new there. THE CENTER WILL NOT HOLD, PEOPLE. It turns out it just dissolves into a sludge of banality. 

[Adgirl]

God I loathe these women. The only fun thing about this show is watching them get these procedures and still look awful. Brandi looks like a Madame Tussaud figure that barely survived a fire. Kyle is looking like the Joker around the mouth.

[The Ringo Kidd]

4 hours ago, bravofan27 said:

The desperation from Rinna and Erica must be warranted for them to bring in Kim, doing the exciting boob job. OMG. That's all you got! Probably Lisa Rinna is pissed that Kim Richards has a wider fan base then she does. There are die hard Kim Richards fans. Rinna never really got there. I know her from Days of Our Lives and Home Shopping.

Big time Kim Richards fan like a lot of men of my generation.

I really wanted to see her breasts when we were eighteen...not now when we are closer to eighty.

Life is unfair.

Edited July 9, 2020 by The Ringo Kidd

[Kiki777]

3 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

Rinna is no friend. She couldn’t wait to run back to the girls after allegedly trying to cajole Denise into coming back to the witch hunt and tell them that “ horrors” that Denice was going to a strip club. And former stripper and devoted mother Ericka clutches her pearls. Denise knows what’s happening - they’ll burn her at the stake for the rest of the season and the only way to stop it is to exit. There are no friends in this group - hell, Kyle got rid of her best friend AND her sister.

Hmm.  A big part of Denise’s irritation comes from the fact that she is now seeing the ugly side of her long-time friend Rinna.  I wonder if she told her that ‘scandalous’ steak-and-a-strip-club comment as a test.  Which Rinna failed, literally running immediately to gleefully tell the others.

[RHofOZ]

Erika is delusional. As if she’s going to give Tom Girardi a mouthful. Erika likes to talk tough, but she’s pathetic. Her sulky face at Sutton’s Trunk show  when she was arguing with Aaron was pathetic.

I’m so glad Kyle is having a party on next weeks episode. I have been watching Season one on Netflix & it was so much better than this rubbish.  Did anyone else spot Adrienne Maloof?  The man next to her in the previews looked exactly like her ex husband (even though it’s not him). 
 

I seriously don’t know why Garcelle is on this show. She barely turns up for any events & her house while nice enough is not what I watch this show for.  I miss LVP, Adrienne & even Camilles houses. 

 

[CrinkleCutCat]

Youngest son loves remembering when I made oldest son learner driver get OUT of the car and walk home because he wasn’t listening to me and hooning around corners too fast! Last time I took him out for a lesson and paid for all of my kids to learn after that!  So, I’m in Denise and Charlie’s club! We know our limitations! 😆

I didn’t see anything on Aaron’s truck to indicate there was a learner driver (like we have to Down Under). I appreciate knowing which cars to watch out for!

Edited July 9, 2020 by CrinkleCutCat

[bkathi]

Erika - just shut up.  You tried to bait Aaron into who knows what and he flicked you off like a piece of lint.    Your marriage is not the partnership that Denise has - more like an employment contract.

Edited July 9, 2020 by bkathi
Spelling is important but I need coffee to fuel my spell check.

[Mr. Miner]

10 hours ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Erika is so full of it that it is ludicrous.

She wouldn’t say shit if she had a mouthful if Tom was there. He treats her like a child.

Well, Tom wasn't there and I thought it was pretty lame for Aaron to be there. I'm not a big fan of Erika.

Edited July 9, 2020 by Mr. Miner

[suomi]

Wondering what Erika thinks about Kyle's Rinna's description of Erika's "type." Old, bald and rich. Wondering what Tom thinks. 

I'm not an Erika fan by any means but Kyle Rinna is crass. 

Edited July 9, 2020 by suomi
meant to say Rinna