S12.E11: Love Him and Leave Them

[Thumper]

It’s a realty company around here!   I have never heard of the store until tonight.
 

https://www.century21.com/

[jaybird2]

why were the camera's catching that strange man in the bar just hanging, watching the ladies. and before that showed there was a hand near the drinks.  he was not ramona's date

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Leah actually being a good friend to Tinsley makes me like her, even though I think she has her own very profound issues. 

[Adeejay]

The fact that Dale thinks Sonja has been so "wonderful, generous and kind" to Tinsley, tells me she doesn't watch the show. 

[Chicklet]

Sonja was good to Tinsley? What is this alternative history going on here?

[SuprSuprElevated]

Tinsley's mother is living in some alternative universe, where Sonja was good for Tinsley.  Has Dale seen this show?

Okay, the dog puffer jackets?  I can't.

[biakbiak]

Just now, SuprSuprElevated said:

Tinsley's mother is living in some alternative universe, where Sonja was good for Tinsley.  Has Dale seen this show?

Okay, the dog puffer jackets?  I can't.

To be fair Dale probably thinks she is a good mother so her judgement is way off!

[65mickey]

Why are these women so afraid of Dorinda? When they are not around Dorinda Ramona and Luann seem kind to Tinsley.  But Dorinda comes around and they turn on Tinsley as soon as Dorinda throws out the first disgusting barb. Dorinda is a miserable woman who cannot let go of her anger because she does not have the life she thought she should have.  She seesTins happy and looking forward to a new life. If it is not jealousy what else could be driving her hatred of Tinsley?  

Edited June 12, 2020 by 65mickey

[Neurochick]

12 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I’m completely nonplussed about Tinsely’s engagement that didn’t happen yet and her announcement of moving to Chicago.  She kept it off the show, so I don’t care.  I can only imagine her co-stars feeling that way x20.  It’s like, if you didn’t care to tell anyone about it, then...they have every right not to care about it.  

That is a good point.  If Tinsley revealed it on social media first, why should her cast mates give a shit? 

Tinsley, take a good look at Ramona, that's your future.

[Chicklet]

A woman really has to have some serious narcissistic issues to be on this shit show. Or just plain crazy to be seen so drunk, so argumentative, so ridiculous on a cable show. It's beyond comprehension.

[biakbiak]

3 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Tinsley revealed it on social media first, why should her cast mates give a shit? 

She got engaged after Thanksgiving, it hadn’t happened at this point in filming. Though given how they treated her I also wouldn’t tell them first or at all.

Edited June 12, 2020 by biakbiak

[Chicklet]

And same could be said about Dorinda, they found out about John from Page 6 so who cares? Not me for sure.

[Neurochick]

I think the women are foolish if they're jealous of Tinsley.  It's like they're living in a world where the most important thing EVER is a MAN. 

I wonder if Tinsley used Scott to get off this show.

[RedDelicious]

35 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

She got engaged after Thanksgiving, it hadn’t happened at this point in filming. 

No they’re talking about Tinsley and Scott getting back together and she announced it on social before she told anyone in the cast. So at that dinner they already knew. 

For me personally, I would never agree to take back a man who was so unsure of me that he had to break it off several times to supposedly figure it out. But that’s just who I am 🤷🏼‍♀️

Edited June 12, 2020 by RedDelicious

[EtheltoTillie]

18 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Nope.

I remember when they opened downtown right after 9/11.

Century 21 is a real estate company, but this is a different Century 21. It started out as a designer closeout store downtown in NYC and is a huge tourist attraction now. It’s right near the World Trade Center. And they opened more branches.  course it’s closed right now. 

[nexxie]

5 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Why are these women so afraid of Dorinda? When they are not around Dorinda Ramona and Luann seem kind to Tinsley.  But Dorinda comes around and they turn on Tinsley as soon as Dorinda throws out the first disgusting bard. Dorinda is a miserable woman who cannot let go of her anger because she does not have the life she thought she should have.  She seesTins happy and looking forward to a new life. If it is not jealousy what else could be driving her hatred of Tinsley?  

They don’t want the bully turning on them. One of the things I’ve learned with great sadness is that most people lack courage and will fail to stand up for someone being bullied as it’s happening.

[biakbiak]

3 minutes ago, RedDelicious said:

No they’re talking about Tinsley and Scott getting back together and she announced it on social before she told anyone in the cast. So at that dinner they already

She literally just told him she saw him and didn’t know where they stood but they were talking again. Most likely they hadn't had a filming event before that which is the only time most of these women see each which they have all confirmed. All of them have had stories or life moments that were shared on SM or in the media before they shared them with the other women. Again, after weeks of abuse and no one giving a shit why would she tell them shit?

Edited June 12, 2020 by biakbiak

[RedDelicious]

1 minute ago, biakbiak said:

She literally just told him she saw him and didn’t know where they stood but they were talking again. Most likely they hadn't had a filming event before that which is the only time most of these women see each which they have all confirmed. 

But she told Leah in the car that they were back together and she was *probably moving to Chicago. The back together post they showed on screen was 10/21.

[Chickabiddy]

1 minute ago, 65mickey said:

Why are these women so afraid of Dorinda? When they are not around Dorinda Ramona and Luann seem kind to Tinsley.  But Dorinda comes around and they turn on Tinsley as soon as Dorinda throws out the first disgusting bard. Dorinda is a miserable woman who cannot let go of her anger because she does not have the life she thought she should have.  She seesTins happy and looking forward to a new life. If it is not jealousy what else could be driving her hatred of Tinsley?  

Oh, I think it is just jealousy pure and simple. It’s not just that Tins is happy and looking forward to a new life. It’s that Tins is the whole package. Tins is young and pretty and comes from old society money. Aside from Ramona, she is the only one of these bitches who didn’t have to strike it rich by sleeping with the right man. Tins  was to the manor born and has the breeding, education and manners that “Sits and Eats Like a Trucker”  Dorinda will never have. Anyone remember seeing Dorinda’s sister at Bluestone Manor? She was blue collar rough. On top of all that Dorinda feels she got cheated out of the life she felt entitled to when Richard died. And I know she will forever be seething in a narcissistic rage that John was the best she could do after Richard.

[esco1822]

I love Lu’s mock horror over Dorinda’s treatment of Tins while simultaneously high fiving her. 🙄

Edited June 12, 2020 by esco1822
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[jkitty]

Did Sonja call Chicago “chee” town, instead of chi-town (“shy”)??? Wtf did I just hear?

[Chicklet]

Just now, jkitty said:

Did Sonja call Chicago “chee” town, instead of chi-town (“shy”)??? Wtf did I just hear?

I believe she did, but then she's so worldly and stuff like that there.

[Anonysaurus]

Dorinda can go fuck herself. 

 

Honestly not sure I'm going to watch when it comes back. Dorinda is really ruining the show for me and her double-down on everything over social media is more than enough. All she could say in defense was she's "truthful". Bullshit. And yet for some reason people rightfully calling her out on her alcoholism is "tearing her down". Fuck Dorinda.

[LibertarianSlut]

Sonja is trying to hone in on Ramona’s party for free.  So tacky.  Every year Ramona has a birthday party, and she was never asked to share with Sonja before.  More and more, Sonja is becoming persona non grata.  I think people are finally seeing what a mess she is and creating healthy distance.

I think Dorinda is trying to emulate Bethenny in her talking heads, and it’s not...not funny.  Saying that she doesn’t celebrate Jesus Christ as much as she’s being asked to celebrate Ramona on a Wednesday out in the boondocks without her contact solution was kind of fun.  The way this season’s been playing out, I’ll take any port in a storm.  

Leah’s daughter is so pretty.  I’m so glad she has her dad.  I’m so glad Leah and Rob “don’t fuck.”  So wonderful to say on international TV that your daughter’s friends are all going to watch, but whatever.  At least she wasn’t drunk this episode.  

It was very sweet how Leah was genuinely happy for Tinsley.  Leah even said that she was wrong in thinking that Tinsley should go for breaking the record and not the fairy tale.  I have said my fair share about Leah, but I think she is a friend to Tinsley, and the rest are most definitely not.  

Ramona, yes the bartender is thinner than you.  The fact that she asked shows a complete lack of self-awareness.  And what is supposed to be the proper response from the bartender, a person in a position of service?  

What’s up with Ramona and Luann and then Sonja reversing themselves and pretending to be happy for Tinsley?  I don’t think they owe her that, and I don’t think I would have sat down with them if I were Tinsley either.  Leah is Tinsley’s only friend on this cast.  The restaurant scene was so typical—Ramona had a date that everyone had met before at Beautique and The Regency, and Luann was insulted that Tinsley wasn’t putting her life and her move to Chicago on hold to attend her Halloween party.  Hey, maybe Luann will write a cabaret about it, like she did with Feeling Jovanni!  A girl can dream, right?

I despise Dale.  I blame her for stunting Tinsley’s growth so horribly.  Dale making Tinsley’s move all about herself is gross.  Remember Tinsley telling Dale that when she and her sister would return from summer camp, she could tell by the way how hard Dale would hug her whether she had gained weight and that Tinsley was only confident that she was skinny enough if her mom hugged her tight and Dale just sat there with her creepy frozen smile not denying it?  She’s kind of a monster.  

Also, Dale, Sonja didn’t take Tinsley in because you were worried about her, she moved in with Sonja because she had no money, because you froze her trust after she got arrested.  This all came out from a very embarrassed Tinsley at one of the reunions and I’m not going to stand for her re-writing history.  She seems like one of those moms who tries to do that all the time and only remembers what’s convenient for her.  Shivers.  Glad not to see her again.

I was not discussing it because technically it was a spoiler, but Tinsley has officially left the show and I am so happy.  I wish her only the best in life, but the lashes, the tacky gold jewelry, the screeching, the crying, the victim hood, it’s all gone, and I feel like a huge weight has been lifted from the show.  I didn’t believe it until I saw it, and when I finally saw that writing on the screen that signaled her official departure, my heart soared.  Tinsley was similar to Jules in a lot of ways—probably a perfectly nice person, but not a good fit for the show.

I’m really sad this show is going on hiatus, especially with RHBH on hiatus, and especially with a quarantine, but it looks like they remixed the season, because almost none of the stuff they showed on “still to come this season” was shown in the season 12 preview and it all looks fun and dramatic and I am living for it, so I guess I can wait.  I’m just so glad about this recent development.  It was like finding out Bethenny was leaving the show.  It was like, yes, finally, we can move on from this person and let things go in a different, better direction.  I think Bethenny was worse than Tinsley, obviously, and they were total opposites, but the common sentiment is that they were dragging down the show and their unhappiness was palpable and I’m glad they’re free to live their best lives somewhere else.

Edited June 12, 2020 by LibertarianSlut
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[AttackTurtle]

I’m not usually charmed by dogs, but Tinsley little dogs in their matching puffer jackets were the highlight of the episode for me.

 

Ramona better be ready because Dorinda is coming for her next.  She’s already decided to take Lea under her wing and she’s already targeted Luanne and Sonja in past seasons.  

[Chit Chat]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

Dorinda is sucking the life out of this show. She was my favorite, now she’s just a bitter asshole. 

She, LuAnn, Ramona & Sonja were such assholes to Tinsley at dinner.  I wouldn't have bothered to meet with LuAnn and Ramona afterwards either.  They want to be friends with Dorinda, and will act this way to their so-called friend, but then they turn around and act soooo happy for Tinsley the next day.  It's all so fake.   They are not true friends.  Just write them off, Tinsley.  I wish her much happiness with Scott.  I hope it all works out for her. 

[Hangin Out]

LuAnn and Ramona were two sneaky bitches.  They went to say good bye, kissing and hugging Tinsley a million times.  Why didn’t they do that at the table in front of Captain Dorinda?  Afraid?  Phonies.

[EtheltoTillie]

51 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Is Century 21 still the NYC version of TJMaxx?  

I’d have to say it has a bit higher quality merchandise and then a lot of similar stuff to Marshall’s/TJ. It’s right near my office, but I actually avoid it as it’s crowded and difficult to navigate. 

[Anonysaurus]

51 minutes ago, Wicked said:

I really really really hope Tinsley has found happiness with Scott.  I hope she rubs her happiness in all of their faces.

I hope she ignores the hell out of all of them. 

[Callaphera]

Dorinda with a Ramona and Sonja chaser: "yOu NeVEr tELl uS abOUt yOuR rELAtioNsHiP wItH scOTt!"
Tinsley: "Because I don't have a relationship with Scott."

one month later

Tinsley: *takes a photo, puts it on IG, tags Scott as the photographer*
Tinsley, via her Leah bullhorn: "Surprise! I have a relationship with Scott again!"
Dorinda with a Ramona chaser: "...meh."
Sonja: *shoves food in her mouth*

[Hangin Out]

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

These women need to get a life and stop worrying about Tinsleys. I think they are jealous Tins has a guy and they don’t.  

Who is Dorinda gonna pick on now that Tinsley is gone?  John?

[Chit Chat]

Dorinda had a lot of nerve saying that Ramona needed to show some kindness to Sonja by including her in her birthday party plans.  What a hypocrite.   She practically annihilated anybody who said that she needed to be nice to Tinsley.   I used to like Dorinda, but she's turned into a very bitter and mean person.  

[65mickey]

13 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

5 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

She literally just told him she saw him and didn’t know where they stood but they were talking again. Most likely they hadn't had a filming event before that which is the only time most of these women see each which they have all confirmed. All of them have had stories or life moments that were shared on SM or in the media before they shared them with the other women. Again, after weeks of abuse and no one giving a shit why would she tell them shit?

 

Exactly. These women are not her friends. None of them other than Leah stood up to Dorinda and told her to lay off of Tinsley. I am still shacking my head as to why people think Tinsley owed any one of them the details on her relationship with Scott. Even if they felt slighted adult women would have congratulated her and told her they wished her all the best. But they sat at the table like a bunch of bitchy teenage girls. At the end of the show at least the other women sans Dorinda seemed genuinely happy for her. I hope things work out for Tinsley and she gets the life she wants. 

[Hangin Out]

1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

Dorinda, I'd really like to make YOU disappear.

The wrong person left the show.  Too bad.

[Marley]

Dorinda is such a fucking cunt. Get a life and move on. She’s so fucking stuck on Tinsleys relationship. Like why does she care. I don’t find any of her jokes or digs funny.

Not a Sonja fan at all. I doubt her fashion line is gonna be this billion dollar empire.

I don’t think they know what a cougar is lol.

Ramona is so thirsty.

Edited June 12, 2020 by Marley

[Hangin Out]

48 minutes ago, Thumper said:

I thought Century 21 was a real estate company.

 

   It is.  Where I live anyhow.

[Axie]

7 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

Who is Dorinda gonna pick on now that Tinsley is gone?  John?

John’s gone, too.  Oops.

[Chit Chat]

4 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I hope things work out for Tinsley and she gets the life she wants. 

She's got a short video of the proposal on her Instagram account.  She looked so happy and truly surprised!!   I'm hoping that Bravo & Andy were kind to her about leaving.  I understand that she had a contract, but because of the nature of her relationship with Scott, I agree with Tinsley that she needed to act on her own instincts and make the move at that time.  This show was certainly not worth hanging around NYC for, especially with how she was treated this past season.  Who needs that shit when you've got happiness waiting a few states over!! 

[Lemons]

What a small ugly woman Dorinda is.  That was a new low about the turkey blaster.  Bitter jealousy from the nastiest hags, Sonja, ramona and dorinda. The three who are the least likely to find men to keep them company in their old age. 

I hope tinsley is happy and has two children back to back.  From the little they showed about her fiancée they look like a good match. Both a little goofy, same age, same goals in life.  

[Hangin Out]

2 minutes ago, Axie said:

John’s gone, too.  Oops.

I really think John left her.  Now, I think she wants him back.  She was crying to LuAnn because she misses him.  Maybe he had enough of her also.  She was nasty to him too.

[chewycandy]

I’m going to miss Tinsley a lot! I teared up when the writing appeared on the screen. Her dogs are adorable and I hope she is happy. (That penthouse in the Hancock building? Dang!)

Dorinda cemented her trash status with that turkey baster remark. That’s why the others are so scared. She will CUT you with her words. 

I was dying watching each one of them be scared on the street. Lu’s hair looked amazing in that scene btw. 

[hoosiermom]

Looks like the old Ramona is back. She seemed almost decent up until now.

[laprin]

1 hour ago, Straycat80 said:

These women need to get a life and stop worrying about Tinsleys. I think they are jealous Tins has a guy and they don’t.  

I think they are always jealous when a woman can afford to walk away from the show. They debase themselves weekly to keep that apple. Lu, Dorinda and Ramona don’t have better options that can pay their bills. 

[Axie]

When Ramona’s date showed up minutes after she met up with Tinsley, if I was Tinsley, I would have left.  Egotistical bitch.  

[Hangin Out]

26 minutes ago, Anonysaurus said:

Dorinda can go fuck herself. 

 

Honestly not sure I'm going to watch when it comes back. Dorinda is really ruining the show for me and her double-down on everything over social media is more than enough. All she could say in defense was she's "truthful". Bullshit. And yet for some reason people rightfully calling her out on her alcoholism is "tearing her down". Fuck Dorinda.

I agree.  Why does Dorinda think she’s above everyone?  She is nothing.  She is not society.  She’s a bully and a drunk, and won’t admit it.  After the way she has treated people, I don’t see how she can redeem herself.  

[Tiggertoo]

Dorinda, why did you have to do it?  You were my favourite cast member, and it’s gone from that to me literally snapping the TV off during that lunch scene.  I was never a big Tinsley fan but the way you’ve treated her just makes no sense.  It’s just straight up mean girl bullying.  Oh, you can finally move out of the hotel.  Not even a good dig, imo.
 

I think I’m done with this show.  It was my last remaining Real Housewives; I gave up BH last season and don’t miss it.  There’s plenty of other good stuff to watch.

[Rahul]

Kier looks just like her mother when she smiles. It's uncanny.

Sonja is looking very rough this season, and that's me being kind.

Dale gushing over Sonja was very surprising, given the way Sonja has acted towards Tinsley over the years. 

Only Ramona could mangle a two-letter, monosyllabic exclamation like "ew." I would expect nothing less from her.

Admittedly, Dorinda has brought me much laughter over the years with her antics but she's proven herself to be a miserable twat. She really is the ugliest kind of person one can be. I hope she takes a long, truthful look in the mirror soon because she will alienate everyone around her.

I'm glad Tinsley got away from this group of women who have been shitting on her nonstop. Go seek your fairytale ending in another city  where malicious, older women aren't trying to drag you down into their own misery.

[Midnight Cheese]

Sonja cannot carry off the pleather turtleneck and pajama jeans. 

[Lemons]

1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

Is Sonja stuff really in Century 21?  I haven't been down there in a long time.

They are online and hideous. Straight from the alibaba.com website. 

[Lemons]

1 hour ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Is Century 21 still the NYC version of TJMaxx?  

They are in the way that everything is discounted.  But they are so huge that they have many more brands including high end designers who you don’t usually find in American stores.