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2 hours ago, DiamondGirl said:

What’s the point of going furniture shopping when she hasn’t even seen the house yet?  I would need some idea of the rooms and what would fit where, etc.

Call me skeptical, but I'm betting the farm that the place is just rented for filming purposes. Also, I think the ugly couch goes with the equally ugly chandelier and the interior of the "new" house isn't a surprise to anyone

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37 minutes ago, Wollstonecraft said:

Absolutely.  Apparently Blake can't see what a bitch she is. Send the Botox babe back asap.

Seriously, is that look(and that of her sister) considered attractive? I find both these women so plastic and fake looking, I guess I can't imagine someone finding that attractive.

Who ever said she was low rent Iggy Azalea was right. Waxy, slug lips, and a face that doesn't move.

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13 minutes ago, magemaud said:

Call me skeptical, but I'm betting the farm that the place is just rented for filming purposes. Also, I think the ugly couch goes with the equally ugly chandelier and the interior of the "new" house isn't a surprise to anyone

That chandelier was positively hideous.  It would be the first thing "renovated" if I had that place.  

Greenwich is a pretty monied area, I believe.  So I'm thinking an older $1.3 million house like that one might have been the most INexpensive house in that swanky area.  I was expecting a sprawling swanky Connecticut estate a la the Gilmores, so I was utterly underwhelmed with that place Michael bought.  

(I'm on the west coast, so $1.3 million doesn't even make me bat an eye.  That's pretty average for the nicer areas in the bigger cities of CA - Not that I can afford one, but it's a price tag that doesn't even raise an eyebrow any more in this ridiculously overpriced state).  

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 I think there’s something suspicious about Juliana’s stories of stealing food and being hungry etc.  I think Juliana has learned to manipulate Michael (and other rich men on yachts) into feeling sorry for her when she plays the role of poor, starving Brazilian girl. She seems to be laying it on thick when she apologized for stealing food.  

Obviously Michael gets off being in the role of “savior”—swooping in like Prince Charming to rescue the “beautiful, helpless girl.”  But Michael wouldn’t bother rescuing her from being poor or hungry if she were ugly. 

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On 12/1/2019 at 6:35 AM, Christina said:

Emily/Sasha Who could have expected that Sasha would be an ass who wouldn't do the minimal work of fatherhood and obtaining passports? Or that Emily would nag him for months about it? I'm shocked, I tell you! SHOCKED! The best part is that they showed five months of their lives in a two minute clip. 

I'm waiting to see Sasha discover he can't fly to the States with them because he forgot his passport or some of the paperwork for the K1 visa when they get to the airport. I'm sure this man has no intention of living the family life in the States. And isn't about being dependent while he waits for his work papers to come through. 

I'm thinking the hiccup with the Russian passport was a stalling tactic. Not sure if the ex-wives or Sasha instigated the break ups but I'm betting he is the kind that doesn't break up with a woman he just treats her so bad she eventually leaves. 

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9 minutes ago, watchingtvaddict said:

I'm waiting to see Sasha discover he can't fly to the States with them because he forgot his passport or some of the paperwork for the K1 visa when they get to the airport. I'm sure this man has no intention of living the family life in the States. And isn't about being dependent while he waits for his work papers to come through. 

I'm thinking the hiccup with the Russian passport was a stalling tactic. Not sure if the ex-wives or Sasha instigated the break ups but I'm betting he is the kind that doesn't break up with a woman he just treats her so bad she eventually leaves. 

Oh Sasha isn't about to live the family life anywhere.  He will find a rich American nincompoop who thinks she is super special and can change him with her love or whatever nonsense.  

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I didn’t get the impression that this month long trip of tanias was a last minute plan... so inquiring minds want to know why couldn’t sinjin just come to the US once she was back? It’s not like you get your visa and have to hop on a plane the next day. 
 

and I personally thought the first dress that the bee lady tried on was a lot more flattering than the one she chose. 

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13 minutes ago, FurBabyMama said:

I didn’t get the impression that this month long trip of tanias was a last minute plan... so inquiring minds want to know why couldn’t sinjin just come to the US once she was back? It’s not like you get your visa and have to hop on a plane the next day. 
 

and I personally thought the first dress that the bee lady tried on was a lot more flattering than the one she chose. 

I agree.  I thought the one she chose made her look a lot larger than she actually is.  I also thought the first dress was a better choice. 

(This coming from the woman who married the first time in an ivory gauze hippie dress with little pink rosebuds in a park and the second time in black jeans, black knee-high Ugg boots, and a black Day of the Dead hoodie at City Hall, so take it for what it's worth 😂 )

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10 hours ago, RealReality said:

The youngest son may be more naive but I don't think the other two sons are going to be so forgiving. It's wrong that Mursel isn't trying harder with the boys and Anna just accepts it like Mursel is the last man left on earth to date.

10 hours ago, RealReality said:

I also do not understand why, out of a world full of men, mursel is the one she had to have.  Because of the bees?  That makes up for everything else wrong with this relationship?

Someone needs to take one for the team, and search match.com or some other site for beekeepers in the USA.

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5 minutes ago, MajorNelson said:

Someone needs to take one for the team, and search match.com or some other site for beekeepers in the USA.

Single Queen Bee wants new honey, seeking single Worker Bee. Understanding English a plus but not required. 

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18 hours ago, Gobi said:
19 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

Someone needs to take one for the team, and search match.com or some other site for beekeepers in the USA.

Single Queen Bee wants new honey, seeking single Worker Bee. Understanding English a plus but not required. 

absolutely no dick pics accepted! 

edited to add, now why didn't I think of stinger pics? 

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On a hunch, I looked to see if there were any matchmaking groups available for beekeepers. Alas, no, but there is a "high tech matchmaking service for BEES with the goal of pairing queens with genetically-strong suitors to help colonies thrive."

Maybe Mursel wants Anna's bees? Oh wait, I'm sure Turkish bees are better so it's probably the other way around. 

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19 minutes ago, MajorNelson said:

Someone needs to take one for the team, and search match.com or some other site for beekeepers in the USA.

11 minutes ago, Gobi said:

Single Queen Bee wants new honey, seeking single Worker Bee. Understanding English a plus but not required. 

9 minutes ago, magemaud said:

absolutely no dick pics accepted! 

You guys are killing me!

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26 minutes ago, MajorNelson said:

Someone needs to take one for the team, and search match.com or some other site for beekeepers in the USA.

My husband and I are dying for me to get on Farmer's Only to see which dude in our area matches up with me. 

17 minutes ago, magemaud said:

absolutely no dick pics accepted! 

No stingers allowed. 

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3 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

Mike and Natalie...Still waiting to see how this plays out.  In the meantime, I do enjoy their scenes but Mike needs to nut up and tell her about his debt and explain THAT is one of the primary reasons he does not want a baby at this moment.  Until then, everything else smells of bullshit (even though it's perfectly reasonable and logical).  When she told him that her mom would be there to help her through a pregnancy, I thought he might realize in that moment he needed to get straight with her about his finances...but I guess that would be too logical for these chucklefucks.  

Mike had at least 3 openings to lay out the truth about his fiances, and disappointed me each time.

I do get that...Natalie should not get pregnant in Ukraine.  But since he has no God, there is no such thing as shame for him....just lay his debts on the table.

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5 minutes ago, MajorNelson said:

Mike had at least 3 openings to lay out the truth about his fiances, and disappointed me each time.

I do get that...Natalie should not get pregnant in Ukraine.  But since he has no God, there is no such thing as shame for him....just lay his debts on the table.

I cringed during his science fiction explanation because Brother Persnickety shared those same beliefs (chariots in the sky were actually flying saucers, etc).  

I thought they were the drunken ramblings of a drunken man (RIP Brother Persnickety), but apparently not because Mike seemed totally sober and professed those same beliefs.  

Mike needs to tell her the truth about his debt and give her the opportunity to change her mind about the Visa if it's a deal breaker for her.  He needs to engage in full disclosure before she uproots her life to move to America without knowing all the facts.  

1 minute ago, RealReality said:

Has Mike ever said how far in debt he is?  Is he in like kneecap breaking territory?

I don't think he's ever given a figure, but I seem to recall he's made comments about how expensive running the farm is and then he's probably using those credit cards to travel to and from Ukraine, too.  I'm curious to find out an amount as well.  Maybe when/if he finally confesses to Natalie, an actual figure will be bounced out there.  

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53 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

Mike needs to tell her the truth about his debt and give her the opportunity to change her mind about the Visa if it's a deal breaker for her.  He needs to engage in full disclosure before she uproots her life to move to America without knowing all the facts.  

54 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Has Mike ever said how far in debt he is?  Is he in like kneecap breaking territory?

I don't think he's ever given a figure, but I seem to recall he's made comments about how expensive running the farm is and then he's probably using those credit cards to travel to and from Ukraine, too.  I'm curious to find out an amount as well.  Maybe when/if he finally confesses to Natalie, an actual figure will be bounced out there.  

Earlier I had done some sleuthing around in the sequim farm market, and it's possible he paid mid $200k for his folks' farm.

When he originally mentioned his debt problem he also had mentioned buying the farm.  Are they related?  Does he have 10k or 40k of debt or more than 100K+?  Inquiring minds want to know!  Of course, with Sharp, maybe this is a big nothingburger, and he is a tightwad and hates that he owes$9k.  As RR said maybe he is putting these plane tickets on credit cards, even this latest trip that he got pressured into making.

Problem is the ccard debt is significant enough he'll delay a kid for at least a year or two.  So I will guess 20k, but his problem is having to make a mortgage on the farm and living expenses elsewhere, that he's too stretched to be able to pay off much of the ccard debt.

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3 hours ago, PityFree said:

 I think there’s something suspicious about Juliana’s stories of stealing food and being hungry etc.  I think Juliana has learned to manipulate Michael (and other rich men on yachts) into feeling sorry for her when she plays the role of poor, starving Brazilian girl. She seems to be laying it on thick when she apologized for stealing food.  

Obviously Michael gets off being in the role of “savior”—swooping in like Prince Charming to rescue the “beautiful, helpless girl.”  But Michael wouldn’t bother rescuing her from being poor or hungry if she were ugly. 

A lot of people grew up poor. I know I did. But I didn't have the opportunity to become a yacht girl or a 'model' or anything. I was lucky to be able to go to school.

It's a nice narrative for Juliana to have to attract the moneyed men who will feel sorry for her and take care of her. 

People do what they have to survive.

She may have a decent bank account of her own - all the men who give her access to their credit cards, modelling money. What about Juliana making her own money or actually going to school and getting some education and her own career and earning her own money and not relying on some dude to make her happy.

No, Michael would walk past her on the street if she wasn't beautiful and thin and a nice piece of arm candy.

I have learned to not 'rescue' people and let them learn how to solve their own problems and dig themselves out of their own holes on their own.

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5 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

Ugh, these fucking people.  Where to begin....

Blake, whilst I realize your main ambition in life at the moment is to show off your trophy green card digger girlfriend, I wouldn't appreciate having half a dozen of your friends showing up to oogle me like some rare tropical bird the day after I arrived, either.  I'd have feigned a stomach virus and not even have gone down to meet them.  Here's a thought, Blake...let her rest and relax and you drag your yellow-haired arse down there and socialize with your friends.  

On the other hand, the Finnish chick (whose name escapes me) isn't exactly a stunningly gifted conversationalist.  Well, and in all honesty, she doesn't seem to be physically attracted to Blake, either.  No conversation, no boom boom, not much physical affection of any kind...A slow motion train wreck that I can't wait to witness.

Anny and Robert...I sort of like the way they don't put up with each other's shit.  It's refreshing to see neither kissing the other's ass for sex or a green card.  And Bryson is adorable.  Porn Grandma has a strong resemblance to Mini Persnickety's future-in-law.  Definitely not Porn Grandma, but I noticed it immediately upon meeting her the first time at Thanksgiving.  

So, Michael, want to know what I think a good way to spend part of that $14K would be?  BUY A NEW FUCKING WARDROBE THAT ACTUALLY FITS YOUR LUMPY BODY.   Ye gads, no one with even the smallest modicum of class would wear those ugly, ill-fitted shirts he wears.  Christ on a crutch, if he pops a button, it's going to shoot forward and put out the camera person's eye.  And that hair...I'm aghast.  While as the Countess warbled "Money Can't Buy You Class," it *can* buy one a decent well-fitted wardrobe and an appropriate hair style.  I still smell fraud going on with this dude.  Maybe he leased those cars for this shitshow.  Maybe he came into a smallish inheritance and he's ripping through it putting on a front for this shitshow (kinda like the way Alex and Simon on RHONYC took out that very large second mortgage on their Brooklyn apartment to play the role of monied up and comers).  I dunno...the way he keeps bringing up the car, the momentary glimpse of horror on his face when Juliana called him at the jewelry store, and the blink-and-you-missed-it look on his face when he heard the price of that ghastly sectional speak louder than words.  I can't stand him.  In fact, I wish Juliana would have bought TWO cars, one for her sister and one for her mama.  After all, Michael can afford it...or so he claims.

Emily and Sasha...Yeah, those women changed after they gave birth, didn't they Sasha?  Suddenly you were no longer the "baby," and they had a real baby to care for.  Guess he's one of *those* assholes like Steven (from the Steven and Olga season) who cannot possibly fathom why babies require so much attention from their mothers.  Leave his ass in Russia, cut your losses, and drag your ignorant ass back to the States with birth control on board, Emily, you delusional twist.

Tania and Syngin...It's a toss up on who's more annoying with this duo.  I'm voting for Tania basically because the way she did nothing to prepare that shed for his arrival was unconscienable.  What did she plan to do if he had no handyman skills?  He was, after all, a bartender.  Maybe he had no idea how to wield a drill or use an electric saw or install plumbing.  Maybe she's assuming because he's of the male species, he must be qualified at these things?  Oh, but wait, she's a "social activitist" and would certainly NEVER assign such duties based on such stereotypes.  /endsarcasm  Maybe she'll stay in Costa Rica and get an internship as the village witch doctor.  

Anna and Mursel...Ugh, bitch please.  No amount of frustration with your lack of communication nor his lack of interact with your boys will dissuade you from marrying him.  You'd walk over a city block of broken glass to get your desperate arse down that aisle into his waiting children-shaming arms.  Just disgraceful.  I can't believe you're even still entertaining  marrying a man and keeping your children a secret from his family.  I hope you trip on your train going down the aisle and lodge your bouquet down your throat so you can't say I Do.  

Mike and Natalie...Still waiting to see how this plays out.  In the meantime, I do enjoy their scenes but Mike needs to nut up and tell her about his debt and explain THAT is one of the primary reasons he does not want a baby at this moment.  Until then, everything else smells of bullshit (even though it's perfectly reasonable and logical).  When she told him that her mom would be there to help her through a pregnancy, I thought he might realize in that moment he needed to get straight with her about his finances...but I guess that would be too logical for these chucklefucks.  

And now off I go to watch Pillow Talk because sometimes I catch things on that show that I missed on the actual show itself.  

For those who celebrate it, I hope you had a fabulous Thanksgiving and gobbled til you wobbled!  😄  ❤️  

If Michael can afford his wealthy lifestyle, he can certainly afford to find shirts that fit him properly - and if they don't - spend a few bucks at the tailor. Most businessmen would not wear clothes like his when they are dealing with actual customers. People do notice you and do not say anything. Simple tailoring is not expensive and his clothes will look and fit better. And go to a proper salon for men to get a good haircut. Men in his position will do that.

Blake could have waited a week or so til Jasmin gets past her jet lag and wants to meet his friends. Granted, she probably couldn't care less about any of them.

The women in your life aren't the issue, Sasha. You are. If you don't want kids, you use birth control. Unless they are suckers for punishment, they all will be like this and looking at you as a pathetic man-child. And be glad to be rid of you.

Tania is quite insufferable. No guarantee that any man is a handyman type who is skilled with power tools. Some are and some aren't. Some just hire a handyman service. Tania should have gotten the she-shed in order before Syngin came. It was very rude of her to not do so. And then plan another 30 days away.

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1 hour ago, MajorNelson said:

I do get that...Natalie should not get pregnant in Ukraine.  But since he has no God, there is no such thing as shame for him....just lay his debts on the table.

I think I’m going against the grain but I think Natalie should get pregnant in Ukraine. She can go through the pregnancy with the support of her mother and give birth in a hospital where the doctors and nurses speak her language. 

Mother Natalie might not be able to fly to the States to help her and it sounds like she wants her mom’s support. So... 

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An actual conversation in my house:

Husband: Bees.

Me: Bees.

Husband: Bees

Husband: Instead of the awful wedding dress she should just get married in a bee costume.

Me: Bees

Me: I hope she develops a bee allergy.

Me: Like that movie. Pretty girl?

Husband: I don't know what you are talking about.

Husband: Bees.

Me: You know, that movie where the kids from home alone dies from bees while his best friend watches or something.

Husband: I have no idea what movie you are talking about.

Me: You know, Pretty Bees, or My woman, oh My Girl!

Husband: I have no idea what you are talking about.

Me: My Girl, the kid gets stung to death by bees, that is all you need to know about that movie for now or forever, it's the bee death movie, it's literally the only thing I or anyone else remembers about it.

Me: Bees.

Husband: Bees.

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The husband and I just "Okay, Anna," back and forth to each other at the most inappropriate times.

"Are we running out of toilet paper or am I just blind?" "...Okay, Anna." 
"What do you want for dinner tonight?" "...Okay, Anna."
"Did you just fart?!" "...Okay, Anna."

That last one was from a recent trip to the grocery store. I refuse to identify which one was the husband and which one was me. 

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6 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

Mike had at least 3 openings to lay out the truth about his fiances, and disappointed me each time.

I do get that...Natalie should not get pregnant in Ukraine.  But since he has no God, there is no such thing as shame for him....just lay his debts on the table.

Shame is not restricted to any religion, nor are the concepts of "right" and "wrong." Ethics exist outside the realm of religion, also. Moreover, and not to put too fine a point on it, one man's angel is another man's alien.

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17 hours ago, BallisticNikki said:

I don't think Juliana would have a bf who couldn't afford a car.

In the novels I used to read the girl would have a boy (usually poor) who she truly loved but would have to leave him to marry a rich man. Or The Eagles song 'Lyin' Eyes'. 😉

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9 hours ago, Gobi said:

Single Queen Bee wants new honey, seeking single Worker Bee. Understanding English a plus but not required. 

Seeking single drone. Worker bees are all female. Seems to be like that in real life, too, with Anna and Murcel. The drones are out all day looking for new queens to impregnate. Oh, wait, that's more like Sasha ...  

(And worker bees are like "super sisters" sharing 75% of their DNA.  Couldn't remember to pick up coffee cream, yesterday, but this from 30 years ago I remember. Sigh.)

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13 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

In fact, I wish Juliana would have bought TWO cars, one for her sister and one for her mama.  After all, Michael can afford it...or so he claims.

The Ford GTO they took furniture shopping is worth upwards of $500,000.  Plus another Mustang and a Porche.  So yes, he can afford it.

Folks who own a GTO drive it around town to impress.  They don't drive it to Publix for groceries.  The lady in the furniture store saw them ride in on that, saw the age difference in them and thought "Bingo!  I am getting my kids through college today!!"

7 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Blake could have waited a week or so til Jasmin gets past her jet lag and wants to meet his friends. Granted, she probably couldn't care less about any of them.

She cares only for her sister.  She may be dull, but she DID ask not to be paraded around in front of everyone and what does he do?  Just that.  So what if she doesn't drink?  Lots of social drinkers don't drink during the day so let it go folks.  She does have gall saying she won't put poison into her body (alcohol) but yer is full of fillers.

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3 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

She cares only for her sister.  She may be dull, but she DID ask not to be paraded around in front of everyone and what does he do?  Just that.  So what if she doesn't drink?  Lots of social drinkers don't drink during the day so let it go folks.  She does have gall saying she won't put poison into her body (alcohol) but yer is full of fillers.

I would not want to be around a bunch of cameras and new people AND alcohol a day after landing. Heck, I wouldn't want to meet  a lot new people 3 days after landing. Something chill with one or two friends and her sister would have been more appropriate.  But of course... where is the drama there? 

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On 12/1/2019 at 11:32 PM, Toaster Strudel said:

Part of her charm may be that she is sexually accommodating,

Because she's a prostitute! Her family probably told her to go with those nice men because they could provide a better life for her.  All she has to do is put out on demand.

"Just be nice to the gentleman Fancy, and they'll be nice to you."

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On 12/1/2019 at 10:59 PM, Adeejay said:

I find it interesting that Jasmine won’t drink alcohol because she doesn’t want to put poison in her body, while clearly injecting Botox in her face. For someone so basic, she seems very pleased with herself. 

She's stupid.  Just look at her.  Someone who thinks the way she looks is normal isn't firing on all cylinders.  She has no personality or intelligence so she transforms herself into some monstrosity to get attention.  I can't imagine her having a real conversation or any real dreams beyond likes on Instagram.  

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4 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Shame is not restricted to any religion, nor are the concepts of "right" and "wrong." Ethics exist outside the realm of religion, also. Moreover, and not to put too fine a point on it, one man's angel is another man's alien.

lol, yes.  I get a kick out of people snarking about the ancient aliens stuff as though it's somehow more nutty than actual religious teachings.  I mean I don't believe the alien stuff myself, but really...it's not much different at all from "real religion."

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6 minutes ago, Anduril said:

She's stupid.  Just look at her.  Someone who thinks the way she looks is normal isn't firing on all cylinders.  She has no personality or intelligence so she transforms herself into some monstrosity to get attention.  I can't imagine her having a real conversation or any real dreams beyond likes on Instagram.  

Jasmin tells whatshisname she does not like to talk while she eats, okay whatever but if they had been together in person for the 4 weeks he said they were wouldn't he have known that?  

Also, it seems like we have only seen her dressed in long line girdle and sports bra outfits, (yes I know they are gym outfits but still).

I do not buy their relationship one iota.

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Did I miss something or did that Mustang come out of nowhere. I think that is his actual car, the keys were on his house keys. None of the people I know that own multiple cars don’t put their car keys on the key ring, not even for their “daily driver”. Also if you are a “car guy” and have multiple very expensive sports cars, you are not going to buy a Mustang to drive as your every day practical car, that’s is why BMW M, Mercedes AMG and Audi S exist, so you can have like a hatchback to take to grocery shopping with an absolutely insane amount of power.

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18 hours ago, Dirtybubble said:

Tania:  "I literally have a clock inside of me..." NO honey you do not literally have a clock inside of you.  I HATE it when people use the word literally incorrectly

She sounded like an idiot. What with this and her eggs "disappearing". Dumbass.

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22 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Michael, as a man of money, would buy the house and spend the next 6 months renovating it. New floors, cabinets, redo the bathroom, etc.

My duplex is 2003/04. Open concept. The only thing that may be dated now are the oak kitchen cabinets. Laminate floors instead of new vinyl plank.

That house was pure builder grade. Nothing custom, ugly thin wood work, and those awful light fixtures. This guy is a fronting fool, in his cluttered 2 bedroom apartment. And he’s not even fronting right!

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Tania is an absolute pita idiot.  She'll come back from her witch doctor excursion and start un-ironically referring to herself as Dr. Tania.  She's a loon.  I kinda like Syngin ftmp.  He pretty much is what he was when she met him right?  And his perspective on having kids is completely sensible.  Hers is of course nutty...because she's a loon.  I can't imagine how uncomfortable it's going to be for him living with strangers for a month while she's off becoming a Doctor of Witchology.  

The entire "I want a baby now" narrative from so many of these women is really ridiculous.  Natalie doesn't even know if the relationship is going to go anywhere and she is demanding to be impregnated immediately?  I mean does the guy have any right to decide any of this without un-due pressure?  And Tania is doing it in spite of the fact that her relationship looks shakey at the very best.  It's crazy talk...

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13 hours ago, FurBabyMama said:

I didn’t get the impression that this month long trip of tanias was a last minute plan... so inquiring minds want to know why couldn’t sinjin just come to the US once she was back? It’s not like you get your visa and have to hop on a plane the next day. 
 

and I personally thought the first dress that the bee lady tried on was a lot more flattering than the one she chose. 

Last minute, no.  But since she has skipped it twice before to volunteer it seems like the sort of thing that is offered multiple times a year and has a flexible rebooking policy so it seems weird that she now MUST go.

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1 hour ago, John M said:

None of the people I know that own multiple cars don’t put their car keys on the key ring, not even for their “daily driver”.

We own two vehicles.  We just have a ring for each one with a house key on each ring.  You just grab the ring for whichever vehicle you are going to drive that day so if I'm driving the truck I wouldn't also have a key to the car on the key ring.

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Ok. SO. I paused the DVR over the price tag on the ugly consignment sofa. It says "HESTIA D TBL 250x101 cm" MAR B POL & BRA I & DK BRONZE  $14,450.  That's GOT to be a price tag for a TABLE that is 250 x 101 centimeters. Right? Right. We are not dumb TLC. Nice try to create drama that doesn't exist over a $14000 couch that doesn't exist.  You ARE going to lose your audience w/this dumb shit. 

I will bet you $14,450 that that price tag goes to THIS: if you/when you pause your DVR you can see that the tv price tag is LAYING on the marble tabletop, not a blue couch--check it out! 

https://www.timothyoulton.com/products-furniture-hestia-dining-table

https://www.timothyoulton.com/pub/media/spec/Hestia_Dining_Table.pdf

It's a table of those dimensions (1cm off) Marble, Polished bronze and Brass are in the keywords which match the tag.  

STONE - MARBLE BLACK POLISHED

98.4"L x 40.1"W x 29.9"H

250cm x 102cm x 76cm

This is one of the 6 USA stores it is sold in:

Connecticut

Lillian August Design Center 32 Knight St, Norwalk, CT 06851

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37 minutes ago, Zevious Zoquis said:

Natalie doesn't even know if the relationship is going to go anywhere and she is demanding to be impregnated immediately?  I mean does the guy have any right to decide any of this without un-due pressure?

She's also demanding that he run with her, just like her ex. Do these two have anything in common? 

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27 minutes ago, DaphneCat said:

We own two vehicles.  We just have a ring for each one with a house key on each ring.  You just grab the ring for whichever vehicle you are going to drive that day so if I'm driving the truck I wouldn't also have a key to the car on the key ring.

No, not like a two car household, we have two cars. Like when someone has three, four+ personal vehicles.

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I think, that because My-kull and Angela She-beast are coming back, someone else is not going to make it the whole way and will thus be eliminated from the show.  Anyone remember Loyo, or Lolo, the Nigerian Prince who had that girl snowed? they came late to the show, and then disappeared, right?  Or the exotic dancer mom of 2 who was messaging with some guy from some middle eastern country- names are escaping me now...sorry...still in somewhat of a turkey coma...They came for a few episodes, and then poof no more!

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10 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Ok. SO. I paused the DVR over the price tag on the ugly consignment sofa. It says "HESTIA D TBL 250x101 cm" MAR B POL & BRA I & DK BRONZE  $14,450.  That's GOT to be a price tag for a TABLE that is 250 x 101 centimeters. Right? Right.

"a heady sense of occasion and drama." That's a table for people who are really trying a little too hard. And yes, your transcript of the tag describes a marble/brass/bronze table.

I had to laugh at Natalie and Mike and the skirting around the baby talk conversation. Anyone notice how he mispronounces things? I can't recall exactly but one had to do with his aliens beliefs and there was another talking head where he took a common word and ruined it. I don't gather that he's all that educated. He does seem sincere- but he has got to sit her down and come clean about how he thinks the baby timeline should go.

Anna is just painful to watch at this point. She seems miserable, and I can't for the life of me figure out what exactly about Murcel makes her happy. The sex must be mind-blowing. Any wedding dress shopping trip that ends up with the bride-to-be dissolving into tears should lead to some serious soul-searching.

Michael and Juiliana- I don't know; for all his kids' articulate accommodation and acceptance, it's clear that they are uneasy and reasonably so. I agree with others that someone who is supposedly so wealthy and successful should present themselves as put together and self-assured- and he most certainly is neither. He's a rather greasy, unkempt, and very awkward guy. He looks like he's lying all the time- whenever he speaks he looks so uneasy.

I can't watch Emily dogging Sasha about his parenting duties. "You will be able to change his diaper, right? Are you going to know when to get him up?"  I hope at this point her starry-eyes misjudgment of him has become glaringly apparent. He has two other kids and if he can't figure out how to pick a crying baby up, it's because of learned helplessness.  He couldn't give a shit.  Apathy is written all over the guy.

Tania is so concerned about her "herbal training" agenda that she can't possibly wait another few months. When asked about it, she responded, wide-eyed : "Well, I wasn't gonna wait to bring Sinjin here until AFTER I went to Costa Rica!!" (Why??)  She is one of those people who exists in her own little self-important universe, where she is bound and determined for life to proceed HER WAY.  And everything she does that other adults do (like work, or fill out paperwork) is worthy of heaps of praise.  Her constant braying cackle during the family conversations was irritating. 

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6 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Shame is not restricted to any religion, nor are the concepts of "right" and "wrong." ....Moreover, and not to put too fine a point on it, one man's angel is another man's alien.

I was making fun of him.  Easy, no?  Snark along.  For him, perhaps "shame is just a social construct".  In that case he could also alternatively choose to be Proud of his debt, or maybe he could change his opinion on the fly depending on what the aliens are telling him.  So let's get to the bottomline here.... he wants to keep Natalie in the dark, perhaps because SHE would react badly either 1) due to a moral outrage or 2) a practical concern.

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42 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Ok. SO. I paused the DVR over the price tag on the ugly consignment sofa. It says "HESTIA D TBL 250x101 cm" MAR B POL & BRA I & DK BRONZE  $14,450.  That's GOT to be a price tag for a TABLE that is 250 x 101 centimeters. Right? Right. We are not dumb TLC. Nice try to create drama that doesn't exist over a $14000 couch that doesn't exist.  You ARE going to lose your audience w/this dumb shit. 

Great leg work!

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28 minutes ago, Lesia said:

I think, that because My-kull and Angela She-beast are coming back, someone else is not going to make it the whole way and will thus be eliminated from the show.  Anyone remember Loyo, or Lolo, the Nigerian Prince who had that girl snowed? they came late to the show, and then disappeared, right?  Or the exotic dancer mom of 2 who was messaging with some guy from some middle eastern country- names are escaping me now...sorry...still in somewhat of a turkey coma...They came for a few episodes, and then poof no more!

I remember the Nigerian guy and his creepy wall of deskjet printed photos of his beloved.  I was sad that they were gone so fast, they looked like they could have been fun! 

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