S07.E05: We Need To Talk

[Christina]

Mike learns of Natalie's past heartbreak. Anna weeps in a wedding dress. Anny has issues with Robert's exes. Emily doubts Sasha's dedication. Jasmin meets Blake's friends. Tania reveals she's leaving for a month. Juliana moves into Michael's house.

Part 1 Early Premiere 11/29/2019

Full Episode Premiere 12/01/2019

Edited December 1, 2019 by Drogo
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[Spike]

Sasha is an ass.  That is all.

[Christina]

I have officially decided I dislike almost everyone. Blake/Jasmin and Mike/Natalie have a bit longer before I decide whether I like them or not, since they came into the season late. They are not really bothering me much. Well, Blake's nervous giggle is, but it seems to have improved some, unlike Tania.

Robert/Anny are horrible to each other, rude and dismissive to everyone else, and I think they are playing it up. So, their relationship was online for months, except for the eight hour visit to DR, fine, I'll believe that. Anny/Bryson's relationship was online but they both came across to me as really excited to see each other in person. 

We are supposed to believe that Robert only disclosed he had five kids from four women right before she went into the hearing, yet there has now been two episodes of her bitching about the photos of his exes online and he has said they have his kids in them. She says no, remove the ones with just the women. So, she was viewing his FB but didn't realize he had five kids until fifteen minutes before the hearing? You're making yourself sound stupid and it's not enjoyable to watch or endearing. 

We hear Robert say, "I am NOT buying you an iPhone 10!" then Anny says, "He promised to buy me an iPhone10 and expensive clothing!" Uh, you two need to get your script together if you are going to try and tell a fake story about your relationship; and everything I've seen so far suggest to me the story is overdramatized. I have no trouble believing he told her he would buy her an older model iPhone and take her shopping at an outlet mall for the clothing brands she wanted. I'm betting that has happened off screen, too. Goodwill was probably a production decision because they could get filming permits. 

For reasons that really don't have any support, I also don't believe Robert is a merely a ride-share operator or completely broke. There has been no mention of a co-signer for the K1, he has five children which effects the amount he has to earn to meet the financial requirements. He's probably not wealthy, and even if he could afford it, may not think an iPhone10 is a good financial investment if he were, but he comes across as acting like a broke asshole who is trying to import a maid/nanny because no one else wants him, and Anny acts like a materialistic nag who is entitled to expensive things, not just wants expensive things. Their storyline is fake and annoying.

Tania/Syngin They take the cake about the annoyingness. I suspect that Sharp Entertainment saw Tania and instantly knew she was Leida-like in her inflated opinions of herself, saw herself as a strong, empowered, socially aware woman and expected us to also, just like Leida expected us all to believe she was a wealthy socialite who could practice medicine in Indonesia and Canada but was giving it up for Eric. 

I've decided to stop there because I will end up writing a book about Tania and her delusional sense of being and insult to the viewers, and my hands are already cramping from my MS and Ohio weather.

Anna./Mursel Anna is upset that Mursel will not communicate with her. Uhhh, yeah, no, not worth the keystrokes.

Emily/Sasha Who could have expected that Sasha would be an ass who wouldn't do the minimal work of fatherhood and obtaining passports? Or that Emily would nag him for months about it? I'm shocked, I tell you! SHOCKED! The best part is that they showed five months of their lives in a two minute clip. 

Michael/Juliana I'm beginning to dislike Juliana and never began to like Michael. He can't be surprised that he gave her a credit card to use and she used it. It's not like she bought a $50k car or anything.  I fully expect to later find out that production had a hand in the "Juliana is a materialistic ho" storyline, though. There have been several instances of them taking someone to Goodwill or to look at something expensive that they cannot afford for the drama and to insult the viewers.

Is that everyone? There's too many to keep track of and not any that I actually want to keep track of yet. Maybe Blake/Jasmin or Mike/Natalie will pull through and be someone to root for after all.

[bravofan27]

How does anyone keep track of when 90 Day Finance is on? Is it Sunday? I'm so confused. When did this air. What's happening? The schedule is terrible. 

The honey party favors were adorable. Mursel's alter of honeycomb was everything. They are like human versions of bees. Anna is sweet, she's just quiet and has a hard time verbalizing, but her face says everything. To be honest, I really had no idea what Anna was trying to say to Mursel at the honeycomb. 

Anny and Robert are, as Pao said it best on Pillow Talk, BOTH divas. It will be interesting to see how this all works out. It was nice how Robert took Anny to the gym but totally made it seem that it was to "blow off steam." No, Robert, you want girl to lose weight, nicely played on that one.

The sectional couch was awesome. But yeah, in 5-years it will be dated. Too expensive for something trendy for, IMO, anyone. He is being super nice to her. She bought a car for her time in Brazil, that now her sister is using to make money? She's definitely playing the little girl thing to her fullest advantage. I'm sure she can get a different rich guy, and he knows it. He's torn.

[SabineElisabeth]

Watching part 1 and laughing my ass off at:

- Mursel admitting in his TH that he often pretends not to understand Anna to avoid talking about difficult topics.  Anna's acting as though she's on the brink of a full-on nervous breakdown, and Mursel just laughs and says, "Yes, Anna," or "I don't know, Anna," or something equally vague and non-responsive.  I might feel bad for Anna, had she not known every single thing she's now hand wringing about before she brought Mursel to the U.S.  If she really thought that in 90 days, he'd suddenly decide it was a great idea to tell his parents about her kids and start having meaningful conversations with her in fluent English..... well, you can't fix stupid.  (And why exactly, if she's so distraught about it, did Anna not tell Mursel's parents about her kids when she was in Turkey?  If it's that important that your kids not be treated like a dirty little secret, then maybe you should have the moxy to own it whether the weirdo you're fucking but can't talk to does or not.  Food for thought, Anna.... )

- Emily's entire segment.  Particularly the time lapse pics of baby Da-Vide.  I swear I thought we were going to see him start walking and maybe getting ready for his first day of school before his two dumb ass parents were able to figure out how to get themselves out of the country.  And somewhere, in Volgograd, Sasha's two ex-wives will watch this and laugh their asses off too, while sending thanks to the universe that Sasha is Emily's problem now.  And when Emily reveals Sasha works from like 6a to 11p, I might have felt a little bit sorry for her except...the level of stupid that girl has shown deserves whatever consequences come her way.  

- Jasmin haughtily noting in a TH that Blake's friends were simply shocked she doesn't drink.  Because, you know, clearly, she's such a fascinating special snowflake and all.  Eye roll.  And unless there was more we didn't see, his friends didn't give two shits about Jasmin's beverage preferences; they were just trying to fill the incredibly awkward silence caused by Jasmin ungraciously sitting there looking like she was smelling shit.  I get why she might not have wanted to do a huge pool party on Day 1, but take that up with Blake in private and if you lose and end up in the presence of Blake's 30 closest friends... well, as my mother would say, "Fucking act like somebody!"

- Juliana examining the sea sponge sculpture at the furniture store and saying that she knows what it is because she "watches Bob Sponge."

- Mike, on a preview clip at the end, telling Natalie's friend that he doesn't believe in religion, but more in an alternate civilization, like... aliens.  And while TLC's previews are often misleading, I swear to you that yes, whatever the context turns out to be, those words did actually come out of his mouth as dinner conversation.

And impressed and thinking perhaps there's hope for humanity at the following stand out moments:

- Natalie sitting down and having a calm, honest conversation with Mike about her desire to have a baby asap.  While I agree with Mike that she should wait until she's in the U.S., I understand why, at 35, she's feeling some urgency.  But most of all, huge props to Natalie for breaking 90 Day tradition and acting like a responsible adult human being.  (So far, I actually really like Natalie.  She seems.... well, normal.  Fun, well-spoken, outgoing, loving, and sincerely into Mike.  Not sure how she made it on the show, actually.  But, here's hoping she stays as genuine and kind as she seems.)

- Juliana straight up admitting she had started to lose hope of ever getting to the US, so decided to use Michael's bank cards while she had them to start "building a life in Brazil" Hence, the car.  Again bucking the 90 day franchise norm, hearing someone take responsibility for being pretty shitty was rather refreshing.  (And Juliana is on my Like List so far, as well.  If she seems materialistic, well, at this point, I blame Michael for that, frankly.)

Smacking my forehead repeatedly while watching:

- Anny and Robert continue to treat each other like shit.  I mean, for fuck's sake, have either of them ever actually used Facebook?  If Robert wants to keep pics of his baby mamas for his kids, then just change his settings so the pics are only visible to whichever kid belongs to each mama.  Or to certain family members.  Or whatever, just fucking change your settings so Anny and the general public can't see the stupid pics.  There you go.  Done.  Moving right along.  And you're welcome.

And perhaps the best moment of all... Michael's "badass*" car, which received an awesome edit, might I add.  😉  * Credit to Juliana for the succinct description.

Edited December 1, 2019 by SabineElisabeth

[RealReality]

As I thought, tanias reason for going to Costa Rica for a month is bullshit. 

If this CR trip was so very life-changing and important why did she put it off twice to do volunteer work?  

Is volunteer work more important than spending 90 days with a man you barely know and want to marry?

And you're telling me that there is absolutely no online program or domestic program that allows you to learn this information?  GTFOH with that noise. 

She remains the very worst. 

Her grandma is cute, but I have no idea why her family is pushing her to have a baby when she doesn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of. 

[RealReality]

21 hours ago, Christina said:

I have officially decided I dislike almost everyone. Blake/Jasmin and Mike/Natalie have a bit longer before I decide whether I like them or not, since they came into the season late. They are not really bothering me much. Well, Blake's nervous giggle is, but it seems to have improved some, unlike Tania.

Robert/Anny are horrible to each other, rude and dismissive to everyone else, and I think they are playing it up. So, their relationship was online for months, except for the eight hour visit to DR, fine, I'll believe that. Anny/Bryson's relationship was online but they both came across to me as really excited to see each other in person. 

We are supposed to believe that Robert only disclosed he had five kids from four women right before she went into the hearing, yet there has now been two episodes of her bitching about the photos of his exes online and he has said they have his kids in them. She says no, remove the ones with just the women. So, she was viewing his FB but didn't realize he had five kids until fifteen minutes before the hearing? You're making yourself sound stupid and it's not enjoyable to watch or endearing. 

We hear Robert say, "I am NOT buying you an iPhone 10!" then Anny says, "He promised to buy me an iPhone10 and expensive clothing!" Uh, you two need to get your script together if you are going to try and tell a fake story about your relationship; and everything I've seen so far suggest to me the story is overdramatized. I have no trouble believing he told her he would buy her an older model iPhone and take her shopping at an outlet mall for the clothing brands she wanted. I'm betting that has happened off screen, too. Goodwill was probably a production decision because they could get filming permits. 

For reasons that really don't have any support, I also don't believe Robert is a merely a ride-share operator or completely broke. There has been no mention of a co-signer for the K1, he has five children which effects the amount he has to earn to meet the financial requirements. He's probably not wealthy, and even if he could afford it, may not think an iPhone10 is a good financial investment if he were, but he comes across as acting like a broke asshole who is trying to import a maid/nanny because no one else wants him, and Anny acts like a materialistic nag who is entitled to expensive things, not just wants expensive things. Their storyline is fake and annoying.

Tania/Syngin They take the cake about the annoyingness. I suspect that Sharp Entertainment saw Tania and instantly knew she was Leida-like in her inflated opinions of herself, saw herself as a strong, empowered, socially aware woman and expected us to also, just like Leida expected us all to believe she was a wealthy socialite who could practice medicine in Indonesia and Canada but was giving it up for Eric. 

I've decided to stop there because I will end up writing a book about Tania and her delusional sense of being and insult to the viewers, and my hands are already cramping from my MS and Ohio weather.

Anna./Mursel Anna is upset that Mursel will not communicate with her. Uhhh, yeah, no, not worth the keystrokes.

Emily/Sasha Who could have expected that Sasha would be an ass who wouldn't do the minimal work of fatherhood and obtaining passports? Or that Emily would nag him for months about it? I'm shocked, I tell you! SHOCKED! The best part is that they showed five months of their lives in a two minute clip. 

Michael/Juliana I'm beginning to dislike Juliana and never began to like Michael. He can't be surprised that he gave her a credit card to use and she used it. It's not like she bought a $50k car or anything.  I fully expect to later find out that production had a hand in the "Juliana is a materialistic ho" storyline, though. There have been several instances of them taking someone to Goodwill or to look at something expensive that they cannot afford for the drama and to insult the viewers.

Is that everyone? There's too many to keep track of and not any that I actually want to keep track of yet. Maybe Blake/Jasmin or Mike/Natalie will pull through and be someone to root for after all.

I can't hate too hard on Juliana.  Michael likes to front like he is monied and he handed her a credit card. 

He seemed to me like he was going to break up with her if the visa didn't come through, so she figured she would get what she could before he took off. 

I had a feeling that she would just leave the car with her family if she got to the US and would use it in Brazil if she didnt get to the US.  

If Michael has all this money like he says, he should be happy that he could help her family make an income.  The more they can make their own money the less they will be in his pocket for money.  

I wonder where the Porsche is? 

That apartment looks messy......Mr. moneybags can't afford a housekeeper?

[RealReality]

On 11/30/2019 at 12:42 PM, Spike said:

Sasha is an ass.  That is all.

I'm dead in the bed at karma getting Emily so fast.  Oh, she knew it all, no one could tell her shit, Sasha was going to be an amazing dad....his other ex-wives were just crazy.  

Her life is going to suck monkey balls.  Sasha doesn't even want to be in a picture with the baby unless his muscles and junk are on full display.  He LIVES to be the center of attention and has no interest in competing with a baby. 

I predict that Emily will come home after a long day of work to find the baby unchanged, barely fed and cranky because if Sasha has to watch him he will try to get him to sleep all day.  

She will probably end up having to get a nanny or sitter because Sasha will purposefully do a terrible job so he doesn't have to do anything. 

He will be on his iPad meeting new American women who can compliment his physique. 

Edited December 1, 2019 by RealReality

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, SabineElisabeth said:

Watching part 1 and laughing my ass off at:

- Mursel admitting in his TH that he often pretends not to understand Anna to avoid talking about difficult topics.  Anna's acting as though she's on the brink of a full-on nervous breakdown, and Mursel just laughs and says, "Yes, Anna," or "I don't know, Anna," or something equally vague and non-responsive.  I might feel bad for Anna, had she not known every single thing she's now hand wringing about before she brought Mursel to the U.S.  If she really thought that in 90 days, he'd suddenly decide it was a great idea to tell his parents about her kids and start having meaningful conversations with her in fluent English..... well, you can't fix stupid.  (And why exactly, if she's so distraught about it, did Anna not tell Mursel's parents about her kids when she was in Turkey?  If it's that important that your kids not be treated like a dirty little secret, then maybe you should have the moxy to own it whether the weirdo you're fucking but can't talk to does or not.  Food for thought, Anna.... )

- Emily's entire segment.  Particularly the time lapse pics of baby Da-Vide.  I swear I thought we were going to see him start walking and maybe getting ready for his first day of school before his two dumb ass parents were able to figure out how to get themselves out of the country.  And somewhere, in Volgograd, Sasha's two ex-wives will watch this and laugh their asses off too, while sending thanks to the universe that Sasha is Emily's problem now.  And when Emily reveals Sasha works from like 6a to 11p, I might have felt a little bit sorry for her except...the level of stupid that girl has shown deserves whatever consequences come her way.  

- Jasmin haughtily noting in a TH that Blake's friends were simply shocked she doesn't drink.  Because, you know, clearly, she's such a fascinating special snowflake and all.  Eye roll.  And unless there was more we didn't see, his friends didn't give two shits about Jasmin's beverage preferences; they were just trying to fill the incredibly awkward silence caused by Jasmin ungraciously sitting there looking like she was smelling shit.  I get why she might not have wanted to do a huge pool party on Day 1, but take that up with Blake in private and if you lose and end up in the presence of Blake's 30 closest friends... well, as my mother would say, "Fucking act like somebody!"

- Juliana examining the sea sponge sculpture at the furniture store and saying that she knows what it is because she "watches Bob Sponge."

- Mike, on a preview clip at the end, telling Natalie's friend that he doesn't believe in religion, but more in an alternate civilization, like... aliens.  And while TLC's previews are often misleading, I swear to you that yes, whatever the context turns out to be, those words did actually come out of his mouth as dinner conversation.

And impressed and thinking perhaps there's hope for humanity at the following stand out moments:

- Natalie sitting down and having a calm, honest conversation with Mike about her desire to have a baby asap.  While I agree with Mike that she should wait until she's in the U.S., I understand why, at 35, she's feeling some urgency.  But most of all, huge props to Natalie for breaking 90 Day tradition and acting like a responsible adult human being.  (So far, I actually really like Natalie.  She seems.... well, normal.  Fun, well-spoken, outgoing, loving, and sincerely into Mike.  Not sure how she made it on the show, actually.  But, here's hoping she stays as genuine and kind as she seems.)

- Juliana straight up admitting she had started to lose hope of ever getting to the US, so decided to use Michael's bank cards while she had them to start "building a life in Brazil" Hence, the car.  Again bucking the 90 day franchise norm, hearing someone take responsibility for being pretty shitty was rather refreshing.  (And Juliana is on my Like List so far, as well.  If she seems materialistic, well, at this point, I blame Michael for that, frankly.)

Smacking my forehead repeatedly while watching:

- Anny and Robert continue to treat each other like shit.  I mean, for fuck's sake, have either of them ever actually used Facebook?  If Robert wants to keep pics of his baby mamas for his kids, then just change his settings so the pics are only visible to whichever kid belongs to each mama.  Or to certain family members.  Or whatever, just fucking change your settings so Anny and the general public can't see the stupid pics.  There you go.  Done.  Moving right along.  And you're welcome.

And perhaps the best moment of all... Michael's "badass*" car, which received an awesome edit, might I add.  😉  * Credit to Juliana for the succinct description.

If they want to stop making Michael look like a creepy old man perv maybe Juliana needs to stop admitting to watching cartoons.  It just doesn't help the situation. 

Yeah, no one seemed to care that Jasmine wasn't drinking and she seemed overly invested in Blake not drinking.  

Although, I'm fairness to her, Blake is always on 10, even sober so he is probably at a 15 when he is drunk so I might not want him drinking too much. 

And just LOL at Jasmine saying she won't want to kiss Blake if he drank.....she never wants to kiss him drunk or sober

[Gobi]

22 minutes ago, RealReality said:

She will probably end up having to get a nanny or sitter because Sasha will purposefully do a terrible job so he doesn't have to do anything. 

I think Sashay would be on board with getting a nanny or babysitter, for obvious reasons.

[Kiss my mutt]

I’m not seeing any chemistry between Blake and Jasmine. It’s hard for me to believe when he said they had a great sex life unless she was faking it until she got to the US since she hasn’t been affectionate towards him at all. 

[RealReality]

Still confused as to why Robert cannot download these pictures to a USB drive.  This is the world's most ridiculous fight because it's all so easily resolvable. 

35 minutes ago, Kiss my mutt said:

I’m not seeing any chemistry between Blake and Jasmine. It’s hard for me to believe when he said they had a great sex life unless she was faking it until she got to the US since she hasn’t been affectionate towards him at all. 

Maybe he hates sex and loves closed mouth kisses so this all works out great for him?

Its a working theory. 

[Spike]

10 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Still confused as to why Robert cannot download these pictures to a USB drive.  This is the world's most ridiculous fight because it's all so easily resolvable. 

Maybe he hates sex and loves closed mouth kisses so this all works out great for him?

Its a working theory. 

Are those sisters trying to look like Bjork or is it just surgery gone wrong?

[LilaFowler]

Sasha has lost interest in Emily. I predict he will bail and return to Russia sooner rather than later. Honestly, any man willing to abandon a couple of kids in another country to traipse off with Wife and Baby #3 ain't shit to begin with. Emily really thought it would be different with her? Haha.

Robert and Anny need to be over. She really is all about the green card, and he just wants a warm body who will babysit for free.

Edited December 1, 2019 by LilaFowler

[gonecrackers]

Emily wants Sasha to be as enthralled with their son as she is, but he’s already been there, done that, got bored with it & moved on, twice. He’s not going to all of a sudden be captivated by baby - & baby mama - number 3.

[Callaphera]

The grandpornents are amazing. Although maybe they should sit down and have the birth control talk with Mike and Natalie because I have a feeling that there's a bonus "More to Love" scene on the cutting room floor of Natalie using a sewing needle to poke holes in the condoms. "Is okay. Is Ukrainian air conditioning." 

[Adeejay]

I find it interesting that Jasmine won’t drink alcohol because she doesn’t want to put poison in her body, while clearly injecting Botox in her face. For someone so basic, she seems very pleased with herself. 

Emily, sweetie, just because Sasha is gone from 6:AM – 11:00 PM doesn’t necessarily mean he is working. 

I have a feeling Angela and Michael are being tapped to take over for another couple that’s either bowing out or breaking up.  The question is, which couple?

Edited December 2, 2019 by Adeejay

[Toaster Strudel]

On 11/30/2019 at 4:35 PM, Christina said:

I'm beginning to dislike Juliana

Same here... the doe-eyed hair-flipping, combined with a voice with a dog-whistle range, is the perfect physical representation of her juvenile (an minimal) personality. Conversating (I watch Judge Judy, and it's a word) with her must be like talking with a preschooler. Totally uninteresting and the adult has to do all the conversational heavy lifting.

Part of her charm may be that she is sexually accommodating,

Edited December 2, 2019 by Toaster Strudel

[Toaster Strudel]

9 hours ago, RealReality said:

As I thought, tanias reason for going to Costa Rica for a month is bullshit. 

It's an investment in her future, and Syringe's!!!!! Bwahaha

She's spending money she doesn't have on quackery. She doesn't have the brain to do something more challenging and potentially more financially rewarding.

[Racj82]

Damn. That look on Sasha's face when they were walking the baby.

That man is over it. The least shocking development ever.

[OrchidThief]

So let's have sex that isn't in any way gratifying, pop out a kid in unbellieveable pain when you forgot to go to college to make a living, and then have to pay for the spud for the next two decades? Girls, you're not exactly representing us well.

Edited December 2, 2019 by OrchidThief

[SylviaCA]

I hate them all. All their relationships are doomed.

We have bees in common. That is all. Doomed. 

I left two other women with my kid. Deja vu much? Doomed.

She wants a baby and he mentioned "his debt" needing to get worked out. Doomed.

I gave you a credit card but I don't actually have a lot of money. Doomed.

He is a "music producer" (hahahahahahaha) with the most annoying nervous laughter and she has the emotional range of a potato. Doomed.

She lied about having a room ready, micromanaged his every move and was upset that he was upset she is annoying him. Doomed.

None of them should get married.

The only two with a remote prayer are dumbass who clearly doesn't know what a condom is and crazy jealous DR girl who can compromise a little and not get hung up on exes.  But I still hate them too.

[Frozendiva]

Robert and Anny - The personal trainer is not a relationship counsellor. Anny, you could have insisted that your conversation with him would be in English. I sometimes get turned off by people who have conversations around me in another language. It's probably not true, but I wonder if they are talking about me. I wouldn't understand it so I would think nothing of it.  And they are getting the last laugh. Grandma looked really good. Her husband made some appropriate observations about Robert just looking for a housekeeper and nanny for Bryson.

Emily and Sasha - Emily, Sasha is over his third kid. You are not special to him, other than being American and now the kid has a tie to the US. He has no interest in the kid, probably little in you at this point and is probably looking at finding a new woman and prospective baby mama. The kind of man who is pleased at being part of the conception but wants no part of fatherhood.

Tania and Syngin - Life in the she-shed must not be that great. Time to meet the family, meet the sister's baby and be pressured about more babies. And Tania's idiocy that there is a huge grandfather clock inside her and that her eggs will become a Dateline NBC special and vanish without a trace. Syngin really hasn't been asked how *he* feels. Ah, but he is unimportant in your grand life plan. Just a donor for a kid that you will pass off to your relatives to take care of while your next journey takes you somewhere in the south seas to become a headhunter! Plus the whole wee-hoo-la-la talk about going to Costa Rica to become a witch doctor. Um, you should have done that before Syngin showed up in your life story - or his half-chapter. How does that help with an idea for a business? You can't even clean your she-shed and expect to make totem poles and put things in to cauldrons and make voodoo dolls?

Jasmin and Blake - Blake, the girl doesn't seem to be in to you or anything else besides becoming a blonde Kardashian or some reality show person. Plus using her looks and filler and Botox face to maybe get noticed and get invited to Hollywood parties.  She doesn't drink but can fill her body with silicone and fillers and Botox and such. Nothing wrong with not drinking - she is welcome to have pop, or juice, or water, whatever. Your female friend is already questioning her interest in you and her motivations from coming from Finland. She has shown almost no interest in your life, would rather spend her days sleeping in a nice hotel room, doesn't want to hang out with you. Drop her off at her sister's place, don't get a marriage license, and send her back to happy Finland.

Mike and Natalie - Natalie, you are really pushing a kid. Get to know Mike a bit more, get to the US, live there a few months, and then think about a kid. He probably can't afford one right now. The religion talk with Svetlana was weird - Natalie can introduce Mike to her faith (Eastern Orthodox?) and see if he has an interest. I have no interest in organized religion and a lot of people these days don't either. You can introduce him to some of the customs for Christmas and Easter and see how he responds. Taking him running was also not the best idea - that is something that you start off slow - you attend a running clinic to learn to run properly and not cause injury to yourself. I can see Mike hiking or working on the farm, but he is not a jogger and his interest will wane pretty quickly.

Juliana and Michael - she is starting to grate a little on me. Too young, too juvenile. If it is an act to hook the hottie, it is wearing a bit thin. Michael may just want arm candy and to look like he is 'the man' with the hot young wife, but eventually the two of them will have nothing to talk about and the marriage will end. Are both of them equipped for a real relationship?

He does the lifting. That is okay for a short period of time, but she needs to pull some weight. It will get extremely boring and tiresome to deal with a teenage child. She so far comes across with little personality and you wonder why he fell in love with her (young and impressionable and can be controlled and doesn't have to face a real adult relationship with a person who is at or close to his level - well, he comes across as an adolescent or 20 some boy).

Michael could have waited to buy a house until Juliana arrived - she could see what she wants and likes instead of his choice of a cavernous home he probably can't afford.  Both can settle on a budget for a house - including taxes, furniture, maid service, utility bills. Of course a model cannot be expected to cook or clean much so there is that to take in to account. Eventually Juliana will realize that a man may not take care of her forever, and not be a walking ATM or blank chequebook for her. She has been spoiled with Michael paying for everything so far and just brushing it off to pleasing her. He has set the bar. She will find someone younger and wealthier.

He seems to have at least three vehicles - none of which are a more family-suitable minivan or SUV - the Porsche, the Corvette or outrageously expensive Ford GT, and the Mustang. I can see the older Porsche and the black Mustang, but where he gets the money for the GT is beyond me. That is one expensive car. A lot of cash to insure and you really wouldn't drive it anywhere public for fear of it being carjacked, or scratched, or otherwise vandalized.  Seems like the two are just playing house for as long as it lasts. I wouldn't be moving in to a new home wearing Daisy Dukes type shorts - pants/jeans to avoid the dirt, and dust from the boxes, the scratches from moving the furniture. The car he bought her is now her sister's taxi business? Pay him back. The $14,000 couch was hideous. Unless it is a specific look for a home, the pattern will age fast. Wonder when she will start asking for money to send home to her family. Or try to bring them to the US. Maybe if she gets some modelling or other work, she can contribute - and have a real marriage instead of being a short term fairy princess whose fancy car will turn in to a pumpkin. I also didn't like the her being able to drive a stick shift childish innuendo. Ugh.

[Callaphera]

23 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

[re: Mike and Natalie] You can introduce him to some of the customs for Christmas and Easter and see how he responds.

Mike would be a damned fool to turn down a second Christmas feast and a second Easter feast. I'm sure there's some sort of religious component - I come from a long line of agnostics and atheists - but come on! Perogies, holubtsi, perishke, kubasa, pączki (well, okay, that last one is Polish but so am I)... I'm slipping into a food coma just thinking about it. 

Edited December 2, 2019 by Callaphera

[Frozendiva]

There are also the wonderful prune donuts, the krinket donuts, the paska and babka breads. I don't like the jellied pork.

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

Robert and Anny - The personal trainer is not a relationship counsellor. Anny, you could have insisted that your conversation with him would be in English. I sometimes get turned off by people who have conversations around me in another language. It's probably not true, but I wonder if they are talking about me. I wouldn't understand it so I would think nothing of it.  And they are getting the last laugh. Grandma looked really good. Her husband made some appropriate observations about Robert just looking for a housekeeper and nanny for Bryson.

Emily and Sasha - Emily, Sasha is over his third kid. You are not special to him, other than being American and now the kid has a tie to the US. He has no interest in the kid, probably little in you at this point and is probably looking at finding a new woman and prospective baby mama. The kind of man who is pleased at being part of the conception but wants no part of fatherhood.

Tania and Syngin - Life in the she-shed must not be that great. Time to meet the family, meet the sister's baby and be pressured about more babies. And Tania's idiocy that there is a huge grandfather clock inside her and that her eggs will become a Dateline NBC special and vanish without a trace. Syngin really hasn't been asked how *he* feels. Ah, but he is unimportant in your grand life plan. Just a donor for a kid that you will pass off to your relatives to take care of while your next journey takes you somewhere in the south seas to become a headhunter! Plus the whole wee-hoo-la-la talk about going to Costa Rica to become a witch doctor. Um, you should have done that before Syngin showed up in your life story - or his half-chapter. How does that help with an idea for a business? You can't even clean your she-shed and expect to make totem poles and put things in to cauldrons and make voodoo dolls?

Jasmin and Blake - Blake, the girl doesn't seem to be in to you or anything else besides becoming a blonde Kardashian or some reality show person. Plus using her looks and filler and Botox face to maybe get noticed and get invited to Hollywood parties.  She doesn't drink but can fill her body with silicone and fillers and Botox and such. Nothing wrong with not drinking - she is welcome to have pop, or juice, or water, whatever. Your female friend is already questioning her interest in you and her motivations from coming from Finland. She has shown almost no interest in your life, would rather spend her days sleeping in a nice hotel room, doesn't want to hang out with you. Drop her off at her sister's place, don't get a marriage license, and send her back to happy Finland.

Mike and Natalie - Natalie, you are really pushing a kid. Get to know Mike a bit more, get to the US, live there a few months, and then think about a kid. He probably can't afford one right now. The religion talk with Svetlana was weird - Natalie can introduce Mike to her faith (Eastern Orthodox?) and see if he has an interest. I have no interest in organized religion and a lot of people these days don't either. You can introduce him to some of the customs for Christmas and Easter and see how he responds. Taking him running was also not the best idea - that is something that you start off slow - you attend a running clinic to learn to run properly and not cause injury to yourself. I can see Mike hiking or working on the farm, but he is not a jogger and his interest will wane pretty quickly.

Juliana and Michael - she is starting to grate a little on me. Too young, too juvenile. If it is an act to hook the hottie, it is wearing a bit thin. Michael may just want arm candy and to look like he is 'the man' with the hot young wife, but eventually the two of them will have nothing to talk about and the marriage will end. Are both of them equipped for a real relationship?

He does the lifting. That is okay for a short period of time, but she needs to pull some weight. It will get extremely boring and tiresome to deal with a teenage child. She so far comes across with little personality and you wonder why he fell in love with her (young and impressionable and can be controlled and doesn't have to face a real adult relationship with a person who is at or close to his level - well, he comes across as an adolescent or 20 some boy).

Michael could have waited to buy a house until Juliana arrived - she could see what she wants and likes instead of his choice of a cavernous home he probably can't afford.  Both can settle on a budget for a house - including taxes, furniture, maid service, utility bills. Of course a model cannot be expected to cook or clean much so there is that to take in to account. Eventually Juliana will realize that a man may not take care of her forever, and not be a walking ATM or blank chequebook for her. She has been spoiled with Michael paying for everything so far and just brushing it off to pleasing her. He has set the bar. She will find someone younger and wealthier.

He seems to have at least three vehicles - none of which are a more family-suitable minivan or SUV - the Porsche, the Corvette or outrageously expensive Ford GT, and the Mustang. I can see the older Porsche and the black Mustang, but where he gets the money for the GT is beyond me. That is one expensive car. A lot of cash to insure and you really wouldn't drive it anywhere public for fear of it being carjacked, or scratched, or otherwise vandalized.  Seems like the two are just playing house for as long as it lasts. I wouldn't be moving in to a new home wearing Daisy Dukes type shorts - pants/jeans to avoid the dirt, and dust from the boxes, the scratches from moving the furniture. The car he bought her is now her sister's taxi business? Pay him back. The $14,000 couch was hideous. Unless it is a specific look for a home, the pattern will age fast. Wonder when she will start asking for money to send home to her family. Or try to bring them to the US. Maybe if she gets some modelling or other work, she can contribute - and have a real marriage instead of being a short term fairy princess whose fancy car will turn in to a pumpkin. I also didn't like the her being able to drive a stick shift childish innuendo. Ugh.

I thought the couch was ugly too, but it's 14k so maybe I'm wrong. 

I didn't watch the second half....do they show them actually moving into that monstrosity of a house?

Where is the Porsche?

I don't think Michael wants someone to talk to because his ex wife seems like his best friend.  

Maybe Juliana has been encouraged by production to play up the age disparity because boy.....that sponge Bob square pants comment...

.I get that adults watch cartoons...I love a wil.e.coyote cartoon....but I might not admit to that if I was in my 20s, looked like I was in my teens and was marrying a man in his 40s

[mamadrama]

Tania wants to be the "neighborhood witch doctor." Well, good new chick-you are halfway there, just gotta work on the medical part.

[nutella fitzgerald]

Two questions.

Could someone please clarify what the hell Mursel kept laughing at?

What will happen first: David graduating high school or Blake realizing Jasmin has no interest in being in the same county as him?

Apparently I had three questions.

10 minutes ago, mamadrama said:

Tania wants to be the "neighborhood witch doctor." Well, good new chick-you are halfway there, just gotta work on the medical part.

Is there really a great demand for witch doctors in Connecticut? Tania seems to overestimate how badly Michael, Juliana, and Cece will want pain relief for all of Max’s loose LEGO that they’re doomed to step on.

Edited December 2, 2019 by nutella fitzgerald
I can’t count.

[Callaphera]

1 hour ago, RealReality said:

I get that adults watch cartoons...I love a wil.e.coyote cartoon....but I might not admit to that if I was in my 20s, looked like I was in my teens and was marrying a man in his 40s

I think I'm one of very few that doesn't see a problem with the age difference between these two but then there's only 19 years between Michael and Juliana and there were 21 years between my parents - they were happily married for 26 years until my father passed away. It was a similar age situation when they met and married, I think my mom was 22? My mom was certainly into different things than my dad was because yeah, she was 21 years younger and grew up in a different time. In Juliana's defense, Spongebob Squarepants wasn't just a kid's cartoon, it was a cultural thing for awhile. 

IMO the Bob-Sponge moment was cute and not as cringeworthy as Sequim Mike studying theology by watching the Stargate: SG1 box set. 

Edited December 2, 2019 by Callaphera

[loki310]

Beekeeper lady keeps harping about communication. Um, you guys don’t speak the same language. If your iPhone runs out of battery, all you will be able to do is blink at each other. 

Witch doctor lady is just the worst. How are you going to leave for 30 days in the middle of the 90 days?? I guess she expects that guy to work on the shed while she’s in Costa Rica. I’ve watched every season of this show and she is by far the worst. SA guy should hop on a plane and go back home. 

The Russian couple is just sad. God, all of these couples are so horrid that I don’t have the energy to enumerate all the countless reasons why. This season has finally exhausted me. Well, that and my new four month old child. 

[OrchidThief]

14 hours ago, RealReality said:

Although, I'm fairness to her, Blake is always on 10, even sober so he is probably at a 15 when he is drunk so I might not want him drinking too much. 

Sorry I’m old and too stupid to understand the lingo. What does “on 10” mean? And “15?”

14 hours ago, RealReality said:

[OrchidThief]

4 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Robert and Anny - The personal trainer is not a relationship counsellor. Anny, you could have insisted that your conversation with him would be in English. I sometimes get turned off by people who have conversations around me in another language. It's probably not true, but I wonder if they are talking about me. I wouldn't understand it so I would think nothing of it.  And they are getting the last laugh. Grandma looked really good. Her husband made some appropriate observations about Robert just looking for a housekeeper and nanny for Bryson.

Emily and Sasha - Emily, Sasha is over his third kid. You are not special to him, other than being American and now the kid has a tie to the US. He has no interest in the kid, probably little in you at this point and is probably looking at finding a new woman and prospective baby mama. The kind of man who is pleased at being part of the conception but wants no part of fatherhood.

Tania and Syngin - Life in the she-shed must not be that great. Time to meet the family, meet the sister's baby and be pressured about more babies. And Tania's idiocy that there is a huge grandfather clock inside her and that her eggs will become a Dateline NBC special and vanish without a trace. Syngin really hasn't been asked how *he* feels. Ah, but he is unimportant in your grand life plan. Just a donor for a kid that you will pass off to your relatives to take care of while your next journey takes you somewhere in the south seas to become a headhunter! Plus the whole wee-hoo-la-la talk about going to Costa Rica to become a witch doctor. Um, you should have done that before Syngin showed up in your life story - or his half-chapter. How does that help with an idea for a business? You can't even clean your she-shed and expect to make totem poles and put things in to cauldrons and make voodoo dolls?

I also didn't like the her being able to drive a stick shift childish innuendo. Ugh.

Hmm. I’ve only owned stick shift cars for the last 43 years and rarely have run across anyone else who can drive one. How on earth is being able to drive a stick “childish,” now?

[OldButHappy]

7 hours ago, Callaphera said:

"Is okay. Is Ukrainian air conditioning." 

Heir conditioning!

[calpurnia99]

That house is very 2003. The market in that area is bad, so I'm sure he got a great deal on it. I'm sure it sat on market for a long time.  It needs a complete update. Those light color tile entry floors are a nightmare. We havent seen the kitchen but I'm guessing Corian and dark cherry cabinets. Lol, I'm such a snob! The property was beautiful, and it's Greenwich so it can't be cheap.

[Mrs. Hanson]

7 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Natalie, you are really pushing a kid. Get to know Mike a bit more, get to the US, live there a few months, and then think about a kid. He probably can't afford one right now. The religion talk with Svetlana was weird - Natalie can introduce Mike to her faith (Eastern Orthodox?) and see if he has an interest. I have no interest in organized religion and a lot of people these days don't either. You can introduce him to some of the customs for Christmas and Easter and see how he responds. Taking him running was also not the best idea - that is something that you start off slow - you attend a running clinic to learn to run properly and not cause injury to yourself. I can see Mike hiking or working on the farm, but he is not a jogger and his interest will wane pretty quickly.

I want to like Natalie, I really do but she bugs me.  Maybe because my hubby is six foot seven I have a soft spot for Mike but you do NOT take a man that height out running with no prep for the man.  He could be hurt very easily!!  My hubby has zero interest in organized religion as well but draws the line at aliens, lol.  She is trying to change him and that behavior bugs the crap out of me - you fell in love with Mike 1.0, don't try to change him into Mike 2.0, aka the version that fits YOUR world.  And for all that is good and holy lay off the baby talk.

Robert and Anny:  Good Lord Robert, download all photos of your ex's (and by all account that number is surprisingly high) onto a flash drive and scrub all social media because the lady in your life DISLIKES IT.  There.  That fight is turning into Family Chantal 2.0 and is so easily solvable!  Robert has to be right all the damn time, and the way he expresses himself:  "Well she is just gonna have to get over it."  Blech.

Tania - you are indeed halfway to being a witch doctor.

Michael - get a family friendly car.  Please.  And get a prenup and TALK ABOUT MONEY dumbass.  She sees you as an ATM.  And driving a stick is not that hard.

[blubld43]

2 hours ago, OrchidThief said:

Hmm. I’ve only owned stick shift cars for the last 43 years and rarely have run across anyone else who can drive one. How on earth is being able to drive a stick “childish,” now?

I think the poster meant that Michael evidently made some schoolboy double entendre comments about Juliana "being able to drive a stick"wink, wink. Like he read Douchebag for Dummies.

Edited December 2, 2019 by blubld43

[Gobi]

Michael might have to sue Natalie's friend for alienation of affections.

[sasha206]

Beekeepers:  I think Anna is finally realizing that gee, maybe you should be able to communicate with someone before you decide to marry them.  Not being able to speak the language has camouflaged the fact that he is really rather dumb and even if you spoke the same language, you'll just get an impish grin and one word response.  And MAYBE, just MAYBE you date someone that wants to acknowledge that your children exist.

6'7 Guy and Ukrainian:   She must be really tall too since he doesn't dwarf her.  I genuinely felt sorry for him when she was acting as the drill sergeant to make him run.  If you think your man is out of shape, how about basically not making him feel like you think he needs to drop 30 stat.  He looked so sad to me when he realized she thinks he is a fat ass.  Also, if you're going to concentrate on his looks, how about convincing him not to have Frankenstein bangs.

Robert and Anny:  I don't know why but I like him more than her.  I like that we have a 90 dayer going for someone above him in terms of looks and yet he acts like he gives zero fucks.  

Tania and Syngin:  Not that he's some in shape hottie, but Tania is way too young to look as matronly as she does.  She's needs a bra that supports.  And I think Syngin is being so supportive of her leaving for 3 weeks because he needs a break from her.  He'll be gone as soon as he gets that green card and can leave.

Model and Sugar Daddy:   I find it more and more disturbing that she looks like a 12 year old girl.  Also, gee, he's mean with credit card purchases and he looks shocked.  Don't be surprised when you flaunt your money to an immature "model" that she thinks you are money bags and deserves to spend the money you flaunted.  She has to fuck your ugly ass, after all.  Also, Michael's wife's voice is highly irritating.  

Edited December 2, 2019 by sasha206

[RealReality]

4 hours ago, Callaphera said:

I think I'm one of very few that doesn't see a problem with the age difference between these two but then there's only 19 years between Michael and Juliana and there were 21 years between my parents - they were happily married for 26 years until my father passed away. It was a similar age situation when they met and married, I think my mom was 22? My mom was certainly into different things than my dad was because yeah, she was 21 years younger and grew up in a different time. In Juliana's defense, Spongebob Squarepants wasn't just a kid's cartoon, it was a cultural thing for awhile. 

IMO the Bob-Sponge moment was cute and not as cringeworthy as Sequim Mike studying theology by watching the Stargate: SG1 box set. 

I don't have an issue with transactional relationships.....but he seems pretty dialed in on not being a creepy old man taking advantage of a young, powerless girl.  I think when said much younger woman watches cartoons, it's not helping the optics they are hoping to avoid. 

[blubld43]

12 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I want to like Natalie, I really do but she bugs me.  Maybe because my hubby is six foot seven I have a soft spot for Mike but you do NOT take a man that height out running with no prep for the man.  He could be hurt very easily!!  My hubby has zero interest in organized religion as well but draws the line at aliens, lol.  She is trying to change him and that behavior bugs the crap out of me - you fell in love with Mike 1.0, don't try to change him into Mike 2.0, aka the version that fits YOUR world.  And for all that is good and holy lay off the baby talk.

Tania - you are indeed halfway to being a witch doctor

Natalie bugs the crap out of me with the little girl act, everything from Mike arriving with a stuffed animal for her, toting her through the airport riding on the suitcases, the girlish posturing, ugh. I appreciate that she's being direct about her wish for a child; at the same time it's similar to a kid wanting something right now, whether it's reasonable or not.

I really hope Syngyn doesn't end up actually marrying this selfish woman. She acts as though she "did all that paperwork! Paid for everything!" for Syngin's benefit , no honey you did all that for YOU. I cannot believe she's leaving him in an unfinished shed so she can add this trip to her SJW resume, she makes me sick. Does she believe in anything, or is it all just noise? Ugh.

[Bryce Lynch]

18 hours ago, RealReality said:

I can't hate too hard on Juliana.  Michael likes to front like he is monied and he handed her a credit card. 

He seemed to me like he was going to break up with her if the visa didn't come through, so she figured she would get what she could before he took off. 

I had a feeling that she would just leave the car with her family if she got to the US and would use it in Brazil if she didnt get to the US.  

If Michael has all this money like he says, he should be happy that he could help her family make an income.  The more they can make their own money the less they will be in his pocket for money.  

I wonder where the Porsche is? 

That apartment looks messy......Mr. moneybags can't afford a housekeeper?

Buying the car with Michael's credit card wasn't cool, but other than that, I like Juliana.  She is very appreciative of everything she has, and feels bad that her family in Brazil isn't as well off.   She is also good to Michael's kids.  I also liked that she said she was going to spend a week cleaning the new house.  That doesn't sound like an entitled person who expects everything to be done for her.   

The "Bob Sponge" comment didn't seem childish to me.  Pretty much everyone has heard of that show and the fact that she botched the name suggests she has a passing familiarity with the show, not that she sits around watching cartoons all the time.  

[RealReality]

3 hours ago, OrchidThief said:

Hmm. I’ve only owned stick shift cars for the last 43 years and rarely have run across anyone else who can drive one. How on earth is being able to drive a stick “childish,” now?

I was struck by Michael's comment because there are guys who think that it's amazing if a woman can drive a stick shift vehicle.  Its really not that impressive an accomplishment.  

My dad taught me in a day and I was a quick study because I didn't want to be in a car with him longer than I had to be (my dad isn't always the most patient person)

[Toaster Strudel]

On a developmental level, I can't help but think that Max is babysitting his stepmother. He's light-years ahead of her in wit and maturity.

[blubld43]

4 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

Buying the car with Michael's credit card wasn't cool, but other than that, I like Juliana.  She is very appreciative of everything she has, and feels bad that her family in Brazil isn't as well off.   She is also good to Michael's kids.  I also liked that she said she was going to spend a week cleaning the new house.  That doesn't sound like an entitled person who expects everything to be done for her.   

The "Bob Sponge" comment didn't seem childish to me.  Pretty much everyone has heard of that show and the fact that she botched the name suggests she has a passing familiarity with the show, not that she sits around watching cartoons all the time.  

I have the strong impression there weren't any cartoons in Juliana's young life; she probably associates the show with easier times, maybe with her previous sugar daddy.

I have a lot of empathy for Juliana, she seems awed by her good fortune. I think the car on the credit card was, as others have said, an attempt to ensure future income no matter what happens with Michael or modeling. She seems to be reciprocating the children's kindness, having fun with them. I do believe she might be younger than 23.

[Jel]

"Legos" Where I live, Lego is plural. "Pick up your Lego", yes. "Pick up your Lego pieces" even, but "Pick up your Legos", sounds odd.

Juliana seems sweet, and I like that. But the buying a car with his credit card was over the top for me. The thinking the marriage might not work, so I'm going to get something out of it before it fails gives me a user vibe.

Mostly though, she comes across as very young, not just the way she looks, but acts. Child-like. I find Mike creepy.

Also thought the 14K sectional was fug.

[RealReality]

8 minutes ago, Jel said:

"Legos" Where I live, Lego is plural. "Pick up your Lego", yes. "Pick up your Lego pieces" even, but "Pick up your Legos", sounds odd.

Juliana seems sweet, and I like that. But the buying a car with his credit card was over the top for me. The thinking the marriage might not work, so I'm going to get something out of it before it fails gives me a user vibe.

Mostly though, she comes across as very young, not just the way she looks, but acts. Child-like. I find Mike creepy.

Also thought the 14K sectional was fug.

It is a user move, but I think their whole relationship is based on using each other.  

I also feel that had he not given her the impression that he was swimming in money she may not have bought the car.....but i think he had a vested interest in convincing her he had a lot of money and it bit him in the ass. 

Now could she have re-sold the car once she realized that it was a big hit for him financially?  I suppose.....but gosh, I can't find a place in my heart to be too mad when I hear that her impoverished family is able to make some income from the car. 

Michael apparently has at least three cars....which doesn't mean that he owes her family a car, but the disparity of it all seems so Stark. 

[Bryce Lynch]

15 minutes ago, Jel said:

"Legos" Where I live, Lego is plural. "Pick up your Lego", yes. "Pick up your Lego pieces" even, but "Pick up your Legos", sounds odd.

Juliana seems sweet, and I like that. But the buying a car with his credit card was over the top for me. The thinking the marriage might not work, so I'm going to get something out of it before it fails gives me a user vibe.

Mostly though, she comes across as very young, not just the way she looks, but acts. Child-like. I find Mike creepy.

Also thought the 14K sectional was fug.

Where I live the plural of Lego is Legos.  I have never heard anyone use Lego as a plural.  

I never realized this was a topic of debate, but apparently it is:

https://painintheenglish.com/case/4639

Juliana doesn't come across as particularly childlike to me.  If anything, Michael seems more like a big child, chasing a young woman and buying lots of cars as toys.   

Edited December 2, 2019 by Bryce Lynch

[sasha206]

I love how new mommy seems SOOOOO surprised that her Russian sperm donor isn't that involved with his new baby. Um, he hasn't been involved with his other kids and has convinced you it's because of those conniving ex wives!  And because you got pregnant with a stranger in his country and moving him to the US, you're now ensuring he has nothing to do with those other sweet children he left. He'll be another one that will be gone as soon as the green card comes in.  And he'll impregnate another American and will have nothing to do with the kid when the novelty wears off.

Edited December 2, 2019 by sasha206

[Baltimore Betty]

15 minutes ago, Jel said:

Juliana seems sweet, and I like that. But the buying a car with his credit card was over the top for me.

I am sure that she did not come up with buying a car with his credit card on her own...her sister could have influenced her a bit and maybe that car is being used as a cab or maybe they sold it for whatever cash they could get...I am betting the car was sold for cash, seems more like a viable plan.

[Baltimore Betty]

29 minutes ago, RealReality said:

I was struck by Michael's comment because there are guys who think that it's amazing if a woman can drive a stick shift vehicle.  Its really not that impressive an accomplishment.  

Next Michael will be amazed that Julianna can read.