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2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

I don't understand the tradition of hiring strippers and getting drunk the night before your wedding. Isn't that when you're least interested in another person, and when you really don't want a hangover?

Is that a tradition? I’ve never been to a bachelorette party the night before a wedding. They’ve all been months beforehand and usually involved a trip. The night before a wedding, there’s sometimes a rehearsal dinner or small gathering if a lot of people came in from of of town but definitely not strippers and getting trashed. 

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Brando stripping was cringey, first because of the audience at the party and second because JW has no moves. Maybe they should have given him some lessons or something because that was yikes 

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Good god, the next two weeks of ONE day are going to be insufferably slow. 

As to today:

- Wow, Spinelli truly is THAT asshole.  Greets "Fair Samantha" without a thought that there might be some tension there and then later goes on and on about how Carly/Jason were meant2be. 

- I think Carly's weepy sadness isn't because she has doubts about marrying Jason, it's because of the reason behind the wedding.  Even with Jason going in for that kiss (as if) last week, she still doesn't believe he's doing it for anything but business reasons.  Join the club, sis.

- Honestly, I know it's shitty how the vets usually gets stuffed in the closet, but really, Barbara Jean Spencer can stay there.  What a royal suck-up to her daughter she is.

- Find him, Jax.  Find him and haul him back by his undyed hair.  Make this end.

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I am fed up with Spinelli moaning about how Ellie left him when it was entirely in his ability to have her stay.

37 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Is that a tradition? I’ve never been to a bachelorette party the night before a wedding. They’ve all been months beforehand and usually involved a trip. The night before a wedding, there’s sometimes a rehearsal dinner or small gathering if a lot of people came in from of of town but definitely not strippers and getting trashed. 

I've never seen it in real life but it seems to be a popular trope on TV.

4 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

- Honestly, I know it's shitty how the vets usually gets stuffed in the closet, but really, Barbara Jean Spencer can stay there.  What a royal suck-up to her daughter she is.

That's all she's done for years, prop Carly whether it's to destroy the paper that Carly forged Nelle's signature on or take care of Cyrus' mother when Carly kidnapped her. I dread seeing Bobbie on screen.

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10 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

I'm reminded of Whoopi Goldberg's character in Soapdish asking RDJ how she's supposed to write for a decapitated character:

 

I almost posted that myself.  I love that film.

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10 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

But that's a soap staple, too! LOL. And the donated organ was a kidney. You can live with only one. At least they didn't try to retcon a heart transplant. (Though that I'd like to see, actually!)

I think they did!! on All My Children! Jesse died and he donated his organs and he was an angel (several times) and they still brought him back!

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11 hours ago, ffwbe said:

IR must have been sick when he taped these scenes. Jax sounded really congested and horse in his scenes with Joss and Alexis. 

And he's an anti-vaxxer too. Very interesting.

I'm here in the Garden State and missed most of the last three episodes due to Hurricane Ida. Cable had been out for nearly two whole days. Seems like I missed a lot...or maybe I didn't????

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1 hour ago, TeeVee329 said:

who is minding Donna?

The person who is raising her, her nanny. Probably Avery is there too. Meanwhile Rocco, Danny and Scout are at the Quartermaine daycare with Leo and his nanny.

I guess this had to be the day before the wedding so Jax has time to fly to Nixon Falls and convince Sonny to come back to disrupt the ceremony. Should take no more than two weeks. Sigh.

ETA:  Wylie is probably with the Quartermaine nanny too since Willow and Michael are both "celebrating". That woman deserves a raise.

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Today's episode was like the writers were working with a list of my most hated characters : Olivia, Spinelli, Bobbie, Carly, Jason, Michael, Willow, Sonny, and Joss. They only missed Gladys and Lucy. These upcoming episodes are going for be torture.

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What the heck was that shmatta that Carly was wearing ? Horrible color and it was too long and too big and she looked so dowdy in it....

Bobbie was cringeworthy in her propping of Jason and his “lurve” for Carly

I love Ava

Spinelli, shut up, you tool.....you make Joe Novack seem like a lovely fellow...I’d have a drink with him if you and he were my only choices

Bottom’s up !

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9 hours ago, Artsda said:

I wish I could unsee that stripping scene.

That's what the fast forward button is for!!!

 

No way do I believe whimpy Spinelli got a shot in on Joey.  also, why is Dante arresting everyone when it was just Spin and Joey fighting.  

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2 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

That's what the fast forward button is for!!!

 

No way do I believe whimpy Spinelli got a shot in on Joey.  also, why is Dante arresting everyone when it was just Spin and Joey fighting.  

Well Joey and both of his guys were on the floor. I highly doubt Spinelli did all that. Lol the way they were talking, it seems like Michael and Jason also fought them. 

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I Have no problem with seeing a half naked beautiful man like Brandon, but that whole scene felt so fake and forced. And cheesy. More like what I'd expect to see on DOOL. That show is unapologetically super soapy and campy but that's not the vibe on GH. Just weird.

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I think the writers think it's an inside joke, going back to the party where Milo was more or less forced to strip. Why they think seeing uncomfortable men taking their clothes off is funny beats me. 

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1 hour ago, ciarra said:

Notice that neither the bride nor the groom have any friends. 

Nobody on this show has friends. There is usually just one main friend for those who are lucky.

For Sonny and Carly, it has always been Jason.

Jason has Sonny, Carly and Spinelli.

Ava has Nina

Liz has Terry

Sam has ....

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16 hours ago, SiouxB said:

What the heck was that shmatta that Carly was wearing ? Horrible color and it was too long and too big and she looked so dowdy in it....

I said that she really looked the part of a grandmother.

9 hours ago, perkie1968 said:

No way do I believe whimpy Spinelli got a shot in on Joey.  also, why is Dante arresting everyone when it was just Spin and Joey fighting.  

Because Dante's over it. As am I. And if he can do anything to make this wedding less than 100% positive, I'm all for it. Thank you, Dante.

2 hours ago, ciarra said:

Notice that neither the bride nor the groom have any friends. 

I noted that on Twitter. It was glorious. No one can stand them except Spinelli.

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Really? We are to believe that Brando sought employment as a stripper? Alls I could do was laugh. 

Jason gave Sam his attention for a whole 30 seconds before walking away from her. I guess that's more than when they were together. 

Spinelli is a stupid f*ck and hopefully the Novak's will off him for punching Joey. 

I'm getting a bad feeling that this wedding is gonna be a huge let down with not enough bodies and not the right bodies. 

 

 

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8 hours ago, rur said:

I think the writers think it's an inside joke, going back to the party where Milo was more or less forced to strip. Why they think seeing uncomfortable men taking their clothes off is funny beats me. 

I didn't see Brando looking uncomfortable once he started stripping. Yes he was nervous beforehand about performing in front of Carly and other people he knew, but once the strip act started he seemed fine (although his dance moves were not). Same with Milo - the actor didn't convey any discomfort once he started stripping; rather he was enjoying the attention, and what he didn't enjoy was Kate (or rather, her alter) cornering him afterward while he was still half-naked and trying to seduce him, on the eve of her wedding to his mob boss.

Personally I thought it was a fun little scene, loved the comedic setup with Dante, and the pay-off, plus Brando looks great in his undies. Too bad it's probably just a one-off - unless they can arrange monthly bachelorette parties for the women of Port Charles. Or if they develop it into a male escort storyline (but who would be Brando's clients?) or have Sasha wrangle a modeling contract for him.

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In all honesty, the lackluster, nothing end to the Millow/Chase story really zapped my interest in GH. We wasted so much time on that story for it to end with a huge, non-soapy whimper just like the custody trial with Nelle. It was so disappointing. I haven’t been watching lately because I have no faith that any of these stories will actually have satisfying endings worth the many months spent on them. I’m happy to be wrong and play catch up later though. 
 

So, Friday was the first full show I’ve seen in a couple of weeks, and I really enjoyed the scenes with Brando. They were cute to me! It was a fun, lighthearted moment and I enjoyed it. I like Sasha/Brando. 
 

I hated seeing Sam look sad at Jason when  he couldn’t possibly care less about her, but I thought her scenes with Dante worked for the first time for me! 
 

I don’t remember much else happening on Friday’s show honestly. Guess the Brando stuff is the only thing that stuck out to me. 😂

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21 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Really? We are to believe that Brando sought employment as a stripper? Alls I could do was laugh. 

I'm sure a mechanic doesn't make any money.  Especially one who got his garage for free.

And wouldn't mechanic stripper, oiled up with a few lines of grease paint made a lot more sense than suit that Brando wore?

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14 minutes ago, ciarra said:
21 hours ago, TVbitch said:

Really? We are to believe that Brando sought employment as a stripper? Alls I could do was laugh. 

I'm sure a mechanic doesn't make any money.  Especially one who got his garage for free.

He's trying to make as much money as possible so he can help out with the baby.

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I love Carly's reassurance to Sasha: "Don't worry, sweetie, Brando was never planning to get involved in the mob, and he won't be. He's just going to invite every extended member of the five families to come by for free oil changes and basically turn his place of business into the Bada Bing, but other than that...." 

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On 9/3/2021 at 2:08 PM, Blackie said:

We need a good name for this 2 week wedding day/bloodbath.

When Curtis had to leave his bar I was kind of hoping he would be involved in the strip thing too (I know I'm bad). It was too much to wish Dante would be involved.

Although what would have been funny is if Gladys would have butted her way in to Carl's party only to see her son dance. 

That’s ok.  If Sofia Mattson weren’t in advanced state of pregnancy I would hav slicked it if she was stripping for the guy’s party.  Or even just hanging out in a bikini all summer.

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On 9/3/2021 at 3:25 PM, Cheyanne11 said:

Good god, the next two weeks of ONE day are going to be insufferably slow. 

As to today:

- Wow, Spinelli truly is THAT asshole.  Greets "Fair Samantha" without a thought that there might be some tension there and then later goes on and on about how Carly/Jason were meant2be. 

- I think Carly's weepy sadness isn't because she has doubts about marrying Jason, it's because of the reason behind the wedding.  Even with Jason going in for that kiss (as if) last week, she still doesn't believe he's doing it for anything but business reasons.  Join the club, sis.

- Honestly, I know it's shitty how the vets usually gets stuffed in the closet, but really, Barbara Jean Spencer can stay there.  What a royal suck-up to her daughter she is.

- Find him, Jax.  Find him and haul him back by his undyed hair.  Make this end.

Did you ever imagine coming to the realization that it’s noticeably worse NOT having Mooby around.

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I didn’t think Brando was half bad. He didn’t dance as well Chase did at the Nurses Ball though. Both were cringeworthy nevertheless. I loved when Bobbi brought up the time Carly slept with her husband to Carly. Wait! She didn’t? Oops! My bad. LW & JZ have no chemistry and LW has played Carly for over 15 years now. So it’s even worse when JZ has to be all loving to her Carly. I feel nothing. 

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1 minute ago, Daisy said:

is today worth watching?

It's a rerun from 2020.

The fallout from that whole stupid lie so that Nelle wouldn't get any kind of custody of Wiley. That stupid fakakta kid has eaten up way too much of the show for way too long.

Jason wants Britt to pay attention to what Cyrus is doing at GH; Julian is being blackmailed by Cyrus to plant the bomb to kill Jason.

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22 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

It's a rerun from 2020.

The fallout from that whole stupid lie so that Nelle wouldn't get any kind of custody of Wiley. That stupid fakakta kid has eaten up way too much of the show for way too long.

Jason wants Britt to pay attention to what Cyrus is doing at GH; Julian is being blackmailed by Cyrus to plant the bomb to kill Jason.

thanks. 

so it's not even a good re run. 

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Sonny’s secret sauce ingredients are aphrodisiacs like oysters, etc., so if he’s serving it to a woman, he can be reasonably assured that a seduction will occur. Those dimples don’t do all the heavy lifting! And now I will never be able to look at red sauce the same way, because Sonny. Ruins. EVERYTHING.

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Portia of all people shouldn't be shocked to hear that Drew might be alive. She only recently found out Taggert lives. Does no one remember anything that didn't happen two minutes ago?

And today is the wedding day? Oof, we have two weeks of this day.

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FFS Monica slash the writers!  I get Monica wanting to be civil because of Jason and Michael, but there's being civil and there's kissing Carly's ass and waxing on about her wuv of Jason and disavowing things she's done to hurt Monica and her family liking COVERING FOR HER SON'S MURDERER!  Monica just shouldn't be seeking out Carly for chats, period.

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Do we have to have a Sonny and Carly tongue bath for the next 2 weeks? Yuck.

Nina "Sonny, how could I not feel the same way?" Because you know that when he has his memory, he's a murdering thug, numbskull.

Jason "Besides Carly, Sonny was the first person who saw me the way I am." Really? How about Robin?

Dante is so glad that he didn't put Sonny away even though Sonny shot him.

Monica giving Carly her blessing and saying that the marriage to AJ was bound to fail because Carly's heart belonged to Jason "and the bond between you two was unbreakable".

Of course Portia is going with Curtis. Of course Shawn and Jordan are working together. Of course Sam and Dante are working together. Subtle really is not a word that you can use about this show.

Was there anyone who didn't call Jax showing up in the last scene?

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31 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Jason "Besides Carly, Sonny was the first person who saw me the way I am." Really? How about Robin?

I think they've retconned Jason's relationship with Carly to be his relationship with Robin. Last week, Bobbie mentioned that it used to just be "Carly, Jason, and Michael" when Carly left town after Michael's birth, and Jason and Robin were the ones who had to figure out how to raise him. 

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