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11 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

I think a lot of ladies will retire after this season on being jalyn 

I don't think we are going to see the mass exodus we want or that the Dallas Cowboys Organization deserves to deal with. 

Sadly, herd mentality wins 99% of the time and if the leaders couldn't come together and stand up to Kelli & Co during training camp, no one is leading the charge out over the summer. Without a rally leader, it'll be all talk and no walk. 

Now, whomever (and it's likely 1 or 2 senior vets) are gluing this team together right now, makes a 180* shift in position, then we may see some fall out. 

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4 minutes ago, Griffin said:

Isn't Meridith just Kelsey L. 2.0? Isn't that why she made the team at least as an alternate?

Kelsey was vapid, but she could dance. Blender for sure, but she wasn't anywhere near as rough in training camp. Kelsey's issue was that she's dense. 

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15 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

I don't think we are going to see the mass exodus we want or that the Dallas Cowboys Organization deserves to deal with. 

Sadly, herd mentality wins 99% of the time and if the leaders couldn't come together and stand up to Kelli & Co during training camp, no one is leading the charge out over the summer. Without a rally leader, it'll be all talk and no walk. 

Now, whomever (and it's likely 1 or 2 senior vets) are gluing this team together right now, makes a 180* shift in position, then we may see some fall out. 

I think the two senior vets holding the team together are Amy and Maddie, and that’s why they’re sharing point.  

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6 minutes ago, Jazzhands said:

I think the two senior vets holding the team together are Amy and Maddie, and that’s why they’re sharing point.  

I don't think it's Maddie. I don't think she has the maturity or life experience to pull it off. She's also not a very effective public speaker. I could see Amy because she is an animated/happy person with wisdom. I think the other Vet is likely someone who's not even on our radar and honestly may not even be one of the leaders but likely hopes to be one. 

We saw how fragile Miranda was last year so she doesn't have the mental fortitude. Gina has been kicked in the gut and, while she seems to have stepped up in the teammate category, is a little too selfish to care. Alexis and Lexie are known mean girls, they don't have the personality for it. It might be Heather, because she has seen the wrath of Kelli and come out better on the other side so she can speak from that angle of experience. I honestly don't know enough about Tess to tell you if she could do it. 

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1 hour ago, DAthene said:

I hate that they announce show group at practice now. They used to do it that night and it gave the girls a chance to process their disappointment before having to perform.  This is just heartless.

I remember that choreographer Bree calling out Angela when she didn't make SG.

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11 minutes ago, rafibomb said:

I've never had a strong opinion about Kelli (or Jalyn) either way, but after watching that episode last night- Kelli can fuck all the way off with that bullshit. Toxic, really? It's like she's completely lacking normal human empathy. And the worst part of it is that, as an executive producer, she actually has some control over the editing, and presumably takes steps to make sure she's portrayed in a positive light. So 1) she's so lacking in self-awareness that she thinks she came off well there and 2) the reality is probably even worse than what we were shown.

Isn’t that something? IMO, Kelly pretty much always comes off terribly when dealing w a conflict with one of her cheerleaders - even though she exerts some control over the editing. If what is making it into the show is supposedly the best spin on her actions, then I’d hate to see what the real footage looks like.

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9 minutes ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

If Jalyn is smart, she'll finish the year, and make plans to go forward to something else next Spring.     If anything was wrong with Jalyn's Show Group audition I certainly missed it, and Kelli was a total bully to her.    I don't know why Victoria even had to tryout for the team or show group, Kelli should have been honest and just add her to the team without putting everyone through the charade of any chance her little pet wouldn't make it.  

I'm hoping there is a mass exodus at the end of the season that will show exactly the effect Kelli's favoritism has caused.   

I agree. When Cheryl (I think it was her) asked if Jalyn  was on SG last year Kelli said I have nothing for her or on her. I took that as no bad comments. I'm sick of the VK butt kissing from all the guest choreographers. I can see A LOT of vets ( maybe rookies ) leaving as well.

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47 minutes ago, Jazzhands said:

I think the two senior vets holding the team together are Amy and Maddie, and that’s why they’re sharing point.  

Nope on Maddie.

Possibly on Amy.

Most likely on Heather.

Point is a joke this year.  Instead of sparkle and "it" factor, TPTB caved to avoid drama and went with seniority.  Kash made it over vets more senior than herself and IMO, they should have continued using this method.

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3 minutes ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

but also with both her voiceovers during practice (when Jalyn returned) and then also in the office visit.  

Btw what is up with the voice overs this year?  They seem particularly exaggerated and contrived. 

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2 hours ago, 5678Pixie said:

Kelli is more than a mean girl she is a bully.  Last year she was so mean to  Heather and she stayed too.  

She is a big time bully !! Makes me wonder how she is when the cameras aren’t rolling 

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2 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

Kelli is a toxic mean girl. This isn't a secret and I stopped giving her the benefit of the doubt ages ago. 

I did appreciate Judy standing up for her, but to be frank, Judy was in the room when SG positions were chosen and Judy made the choice not to call her name. She could have added her as the 19th position just like we got a 37 person triangle. Judy's lack of integrity and ability to stand up to Kelli is appalling and it's on Judy to stand up to that. I lost all respect for her last year---not just with the editing for the show, but her rant at the fans for not 'understanding'. Hello, I understand---you work for a mean girl, now grow a back bone.

Jalyn's words were measured and anxious. She knows why she was cut from SG and she knows she can't call Kelli out for it. The sad part is that she stayed. 

I hate to compare anything to domestic violence because domestic violence is gross; but watching Jalyn essentially beg for her uniform reminded me of a battered wife begging her abusive husband to take her back and how sorry she is for upsetting him in the first place. The DCC system is, at it's core, toxic and unfortunately, the root cause is the director.

I understand the 'best of the best' mentality---unfortunately, when you have that style of mentality, abusive tendencies tend to get overlooked and excused as 'this is what it takes.' There is not a single sport that hasn't had this type of situation happen whether it was a single team or the entire federal (*cough* USAG *cough*). 

It is going to take the girls standing up, much like they did when Jones took over, to see any real progress and I just don't see that happening. The smart and educated leave because they see through the bullshit quicker and the others don't have the perspective in the moment.

I'm not a Cowboys fan, and frankly, I've only been a fan of this show because I love dance---and while I continue to sometimes remember to watch, I'm mostly over it. I'll hate watch when I'm bored, but continuing to watch these women get beat down and abused over and over again, season after season (though it used to be way more subtle) is just...not entertaining.  

This is what I wish I could like 1000 times!! This is perfectly said, and I totally agree. I have dvr'd all the shows this season, but I am so over the Kelli and Judy bs that I have not been able to watch. This show is now on the same level as Keeping Up With The Kartrashians in my mind, and that level is VERY LOW!!!

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30 minutes ago, Pj3422 said:

Yep, she lost me a few years ago when Colby was a TCC. I wasn’t a Colby fan, but Kelli’s comments about her were straight-up junior high clique. Not the measured, thoughtful approach a good director should have.

You know, I felt the same way back then, but i kinda forgot about it until you mentioned it. Than you for that, because she really is an adult bully and an entitled, arrogant , mean girl!! If she looked in a mirror she would see the true "toxic" person in this organization.

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The editing this season is some of the worst I have ever seen. Everything seems so fake and scripted, it’s hard to believe anything. The part where Kelli is telling Cheryl Burke that the girls have to do the dance in boots...so scripted. Of course Cheryl already knows that. She has danced with them before. Are we even really sure that Kashara picked Caroline when asked about point? Seemed fake too, like they asked another question and then cut and spliced the response to shape a storyline. The Jalyn “talk” was just bizarrely edited. The best compliment that Kelli can give Kat is that “she can blend in a team.” 

This season is just super off.  

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16 hours ago, Tootie said:

I personally wouldn't put that solely on Rachel A....I'm sure someone will grab onto that and then start hating on her!  The other vets that made show group were Rachel W, Carol, Ashlee and Cici--it could've been either one of them.

Perhaps, but the other four are from the most talented class they’ve had.  Each has distinguished themselves being showcased aesthetically (Rachel W, Ashlee), praised for dance ability (Cici; Ashlee), and for leadership (Caroline ROY).  Caroline has also benefitted from weight loss and improved aesthetics.  She’s clearly talented as she’s KaShara’s pick for point.  

Is there any doubt that the lady formerly known as the teacher who gets confused with Molly was selected #18?

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I haven't watched the episode yet because I was visiting my best friend who was in town last night but I'm afraid if I do watch it, I'll break the TV by throwing something at it when Kelli starts in on Jaylyn. It's taking everything I have not to tweet something on Kelli's account stating I know who was being toxic in that meeting and it wasn't Jaylyn.

I echo what CrazyinAlabama said. Jaylyn needs to keep her head down, finish her year and vamoose. There's no way Kelli will keep her another season anyway and Charlotte will likely chime in with talk of "She needs to be GREAT!". Who wants to stick around for that nightmare when they are still getting paid peanuts?

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1 minute ago, TUOwl84 said:

I forgot to mention Shaina in my last post. She is seriously stunning, even before the makeover! I can’t believe they didn’t take her over Meredith and Kat! I hope auditions again next year.

I’m thinking maybe the death of her friends might have effected her to the point were she couldn’t concentrate 

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And why post this on Instagram, Ms F. ; exclaiming the excitement of SG try outs, then not even select Jaylyn?! You said be the judge! I vote for Jaylyn! Someone's priorities for this team are FUBARed!

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28 minutes ago, Lily80 said:

Also just want to say that if Kelli cut Jalyn from Show Group because of some nonsense with VK, it's completely passive aggressive not to tell her why. If it's a punishment for some 'supposed' bad behavior (like Jenna being pulled as point and made to sit out for the HOF game), then freaking TELL her that. Otherwise, you're just creating an atmosphere of anxiety and distrust.

This! Kelli is a passive aggressive mean girl/bully. Like when she laughed at Kitty mocking Jax. There are many other instances throughout the seasons. 

Whatever happened, Kelli is determined to punish Jalyn. It’s disgusting to watch. Jalyn went from Kelli’s pet to being the lowest on the totem pole. Kelli is such a bitch. SHE is the one who is toxic. And Judy enables her by not standing up to her. 

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Unpopular opinion: Jalynn’s a great dancer, but she’s not attractive. She has weird, bulgy eyes. And she does too many weird sultry faces instead of a nice bright smile. Remember her rookie cameo? Hard pass. 

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4 hours ago, Booboo said:

Kashara would add so much to the show. She is funny, spot on and cute!! CMT needs to at least replace her with Melissa Rycroft, who comes across “drippy” on the show.

Not only that, but Rycroft in her day was a not very memorable team member. Getting jilted on The Bachelor and using that fame and DCC experience to snag the vote for the mirrored disco ball on DWTS, led to her return as DCC royalty. 

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1 hour ago, DCCFan197605 said:

Perhaps, but the other four are from the most talented class they’ve had.  Each has distinguished themselves being showcased aesthetically (Rachel W, Ashlee), praised for dance ability (Cici; Ashlee), and for leadership (Caroline ROY).  Caroline has also benefitted from weight loss and improved aesthetics.  She’s clearly talented as she’s KaShara’s pick for point.  

Is there any doubt that the lady formerly known as the teacher who gets confused with Molly was selected #18?

One item that may contradict my analysis is the shot of Judy’s paper from the episode.  It contains the Show Group list with Rachel W at #18.  It also contains circles, question marks and other notation.  It’s possible this is the actual list according to finish.

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Just now, DCCFan197605 said:

One item that may contradict my analysis is the shot of Judy’s paper from the episode.  It contains the Show Group list with Rachel W at #18.  It also contains circles, question marks and other notation.  It’s possible this is the actual list according to finish.

I don't put any stock in the order that they are announced... 1.Daphne 2.Tess 3.Kelcey 4.VK 5.Ashlee 6.Amanda 7.Carol .... by the time Carol was announced, Heather and Amy (plus a few others) are already standing, but Maddie, Gina, Rachel W and Bridget are still on the floor congratulating her.  There's NO WAY I'll ever be convinced that VK is ranked 4th over all of them..

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1 minute ago, Tootie said:

I don't put any stock in the order that they are announced... 1.Daphne 2.Tess 3.Kelcey 4.VK 5.Ashlee 6.Amanda 7.Carol .... by the time Carol was announced, Heather and Amy (plus a few others) are already standing, but Maddie, Gina, Rachel W and Bridget are still on the floor congratulating her.  There's NO WAY I'll ever be convinced that VK is ranked 4th over all of them..

Yeah, the way Kelli's mind works, VK would have been #1.

As for the order they are announced, Jinelle was "the last member announced for show group this year" and she gets a hug from Amy T while sitting down, only to go up to join the rest of show group where Amy T is there to greet her, so...…..yeah, order means nothing:)

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