S09.E18: Reunion Part 3

[Carolina Girl]

9 hours ago, Chalby said:

I can be really sarcastic and dry with my humour, and I have also learned to quickly point out when I am joking

One piece of advice my Dad gave me that I'm afraid I've largely ignored  - "in that long staircase of life, be careful of stepping on the 'smart ass' roller skate"  Unfortunately, sometimes when you think something is clever and smarty, when it comes out of your mouth, not so much.  When that happens, I do what you do - hit the mea culpa button, eat some crow and wash it down with a nice merlot.  

[RHJunkie]

55 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

ok i haven't seen anyone else talk about Jackie's hypocrisy over the whole lesbian thing .... she got "offended" when it was insinuated she could be a lesbian and how dare you use sexuality has a put down.. but then when the tacky t and d necklace was given she was and you called us lesbians?  laughing and joking and basically doing what she said she was offended about....I just found that a little funny  

I don't think that would be hypocrisy, at least not on Jackie's part. She was pointing out Danielle's hypocrisy. She wasn't legitimately calling Danielle a lesbian, she was imitating Danielle to demonstrate how ridiculous Danielle's comment was. I don't think she was offended at someone calling her a lesbian, her issue was the way it was used as a negative toward her and Melissa and Danielle confirmed that by saying 'I didn't mean it as an insult...it was just weird'. The point is that Danielle is over there acting all lovey-dovey with Teresa, kissing her ass, giving her gifts and looking for affection from her and if that is how she is with her friendship, why would she ever look at two other women getting along and having fun and say 'oh I get lesbian vibes from those two,'.

[walnutqueen]

Danielle should start wearing a fright mask - it would look better than the botch job she's got going on.  Unfortunately, no mask can ever hide her poisonous personality.

I will say that Teresa deserves Danielle's stalking friendship.

I loved the look on Teresa's face when her brother said that his daughter and wife would go to Italy with him, if the circumstances were reversed.  She'd like to blame everything on her jailbird husband, but she was complicit in the crimes, and won't ever take responsibility for any of her bad actions.

Edited March 7, 2019 by walnutqueen

[Neveragain]

7 hours ago, sATL said:

Umm.. Danielle's blue taffeta pant suit ? Just who was the designer and tailor? Someone from project runway jr ? I mean that suit had a glossy shine....😁

On Bravo’s Lookbook site it says Danielle created it herself. Nothing has ever shocked me less!

“Watch the video above to see all the fabulous looks, including a custom pantsuit of Danielle Staub's own creation!”

(I can’t figure out how to send the link lol but that sentence is from the page)

[TattleTeeny]

"Your husband's in the pool" is just so perfect--the abrupt yet nondramatic, casual matter-of-factness of it, the fact that she didn't even stop walking to say it. It's so perfect and funny that I laughed at it yet again just typing this. Even better than "Who, the bag-checker?"

Edited March 7, 2019 by TattleTeeny

[SweetieDarling]

13 hours ago, Gigi43 said:

"You're  still that Beverly inside."

This is my ghost posting because I'm dead 😄👏

If only she had pulled out The Book and placed it on the table when she made that remark. That would have been EPIC!

[MV713]

no one mentioned the porn video?

Just wow.

[sATL]

28 minutes ago, Neveragain said:

On Bravo’s Lookbook site it says Danielle created it herself. Nothing has ever shocked me less!

“Watch the video above to see all the fabulous looks, including a custom pantsuit of Danielle Staub's own creation!”

(I can’t figure out how to send the link lol but that sentence is from the page)

do they still offer Home Ec in the school system, where she can call a teacher, who works with beginners? If not , I'm pretty sure the county community centers rec pgms do offer sewing classes..  Or maybe call the cleaners/alternation dept/JoAnn Fabrics/etc for a peer review

Edited March 7, 2019 by sATL

[teapot]

10 hours ago, Chalby said:

To be fair - he stated a couple of times he was joking. I can be really sarcastic and dry with my humour, and I have also learned to quickly point out when I am joking

omg same here....I said something about Teddi Mellencamp selling Shakeology & had like four people being like, no, she's a legitimate businesswoman, why would she do that?  *sigh*

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, luckyroll3 said:

I actually enjoyed the husbands this go around.  The entire group of husbands don't take anything too seriously.  And I like that Joe and Marty have resolved their issues.  Speaking of Marty, I didn't realize he and Danielle were still living together even during the separation/divorce.  That sounds like hell. 

It's actually more rare that the boyfriends/husbands don't get along. New Jersey has always been more like Atlanta than not. Atlanta is the show where the wives exes keep popping up like bad pennies because it turns out that the men maintain friendships. On that show, Walter, Kordell, Peter, and Apollo have all popped up past their sell by dates. So it's nice to see that these guys instantly made up with Marty.

[njbchlover]

3 hours ago, Kiki777 said:

Danielle's new cheekbones make her look like the masked villian in the Saw movies.  And the necklace??? Awkies!  I was cringing behind my throw blanket.  When this friendship goes sour it will be epic.

So the cast remains the same?  I'm glad. Wonder if Danielle will try for a 'royal wedding' since the new fiancé is a duke. 

Teresa's go-to 'I have no husband' excuse falls even flatter when you consider her not-so-secret boyfriend.

I loved when Delores said "When [note that she didn't say "IF"] that friendship goes south, the initials can stand for "Delores and Teresa"...such great shade!!  🙂

[HunterHunted]

13 minutes ago, MV713 said:

no one mentioned the porn video?

Just wow.

No one here? Or on the reunion? Because they did on the reunion, but the description of it sounds so awful that it instantly killed curiosity that I might have had. Danielle's lizard face, square boobs, and pierced hoohaw. Blergh. Nope. Not for me.

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

ok i haven't seen anyone else talk about Jackie's hypocrisy over the whole lesbian thing .... she got "offended" when it was insinuated she could be a lesbian and how dare you use sexuality has a put down.. but then when the tacky t and d necklace was given she was and you called us lesbians?  laughing and joking and basically doing what she said she was offended about....I just found that a little funny  

I also found it interesting when Andy corrected Jackie about sexual preference vs. sexual orientation, she, of the Mrs. Merriam Webster line, didn't even acknowledge her incorrect wording - she just kind of ignored Andy's comment and brushed it off.

And, speaking of all of that, since when did Danielle "always identify as being bi-sexual"?  How many of those 19 engagements were with a woman?  How many times did we have to hear during her earlier tenure on the show that she was a "gay advocate", but NEVER ONCE during that time did she mention that she was bi-sexual?  I know she supposedly had a little fling with the song-writer, but I seriously think that was more to keep herself relevant than for any other reason.

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Oh my gosh, I totally forgot about that. She just wouldn't let go! Danielle is so creepy. I do not think Tre is on board with this "BFF for life" thing. I just think she's learned she'd rather be in Danielle's corner than in her sights. 

I was wondering about that, too, and what you say here makes sense.  Keep your friends close and your enemies closer, as they say.

[pieinmyeye]

1 hour ago, walnutqueen said:

Danielle should start wearing a fright mask - it would look better than the botch job she's got going on.  Unfortunately, no mask can ever hide her poisonous personality.

I will say that Teresa deserves Danielle's stalking friendship.

I loved the look on Teresa's face when her brother said that his daughter and wife would go to Italy with him, if the circumstances were reversed.  She'd like to blame everything on her jailbird husband, but she was complicit in the crimes, and won't ever take responsibility for any of her bad actions.

Danielle is already wearing a fright mask. It certainly frightened me!

[abbottrabbit]

I need the next reunion to feature an inset of Delores's face doing reactions at all times. 

They can cut to Jen for the moments when she realizes that for all her judgments about adultery, she's aligned herself with a former stripper and <cough> call girl who has a sex tape on Porn Hub. 

[kicksave]

16 hours ago, nexxie said:

Danielle did even more to her face - ugh!

Right??  OMG! She looks like she had her cheeks sucked in and a bad eyelift. And the make up...really harsh and over done. Looks like she had her lips blown up too. The way she sucks up to Teresa is just embarrassing. Too bad this wasn't taped last week when she announced another engagement to a guy she stole from her BFF. She's totally psycho.

[kicksave]

2 hours ago, Neveragain said:

On Bravo’s Lookbook site it says Danielle created it herself. Nothing has ever shocked me less!

“Watch the video above to see all the fabulous looks, including a custom pantsuit of Danielle Staub's own creation!”

(I can’t figure out how to send the link lol but that sentence is from the page)

That pantsuit was hideous and poorly made. 

[LibertarianSlut]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

I also found it interesting when Andy corrected Jackie about sexual preference vs. sexual orientation, she, of the Mrs. Merriam Webster line, didn't even acknowledge her incorrect wording - she just kind of ignored Andy's comment and brushed it off.

I thought it really bizarre that Andy quickly corrected Jackie from "sexual preference" to "sexual orientation," but gave Melissa a pass for saying, "and I'M the one being accused of being a lesbian?" I don't get it.  One is perhaps not the correct phraseology, and the other is an implication that lesbianism is bad, as "accuse" has a negative connotation.

17 minutes ago, kicksave said:

Too bad this wasn't taped last week when she announced another engagement to a guy she stole from her BFF. She's totally psycho.

They were slated to get married on Monday, and now the marriage is off.  I don't know if they broke up, or just postponed it, but it seems like things are taking a turn for the worse.

[esco1822]

2 hours ago, MV713 said:

no one mentioned the porn video?

Marge totally mentioned Danielle having a video on PornHub.

Unrelated, does Jennifer not understand that Juicy doing his time has nothing to do with his deportation? I'm so tired of that being the excuse (Gia used it too) as to why he should be allowed to stay.  No he's being deported because he broke an entirely different set of rules and never got his citizenship.  He went to "camp" for being a fraud and is being deported for being lazy. Or maybe because he'd never pass the test? Lord knows he'd probably send his twin to take it for him since that twin already passed the test. He really is just human garbage. 

[jalady]

7 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

Unrelated, does Jennifer not understand that Juicy doing his time has nothing to do with his deportation? I'm so tired of that being the excuse (Gia used it too) as to why he should be allowed to stay.  No he's being deported because he broke an entirely different set of rules and never got his citizenship.  He went to "camp" for being a fraud and is being deported for being lazy. Or maybe because he'd never pass the test? Lord knows he'd probably send his twin to take it for him since that twin already passed the test. He really is just human garbage. 

I give less than a whit about Juicy's citizenship status but I'm curious:  why didn't marrying American citizen Tre allow him to become a citizen?  Or was he just too lazy to do the paperwork and take the test?

[missyb]

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Edited March 7, 2019 by missyb

[esco1822]

2 minutes ago, jalady said:

I give less than a whit about Juicy's citizenship status but I'm curious:  why didn't marrying American citizen Tre allow him to become a citizen?  Or was he just too lazy to do the paperwork and take the test?

It would seem that he was too lazy. He's a permanent resident apparently but never applied for his citizenship. It's a long and annoying process (I have a friend taking the test Wednesday!!) but it's certainly not difficult. Everyone else in his family did it so it's not like he didn't know. 

[njbchlover]

1 hour ago, abbottrabbit said:

I need the next reunion to feature an inset of Delores's face doing reactions at all times. 

They can cut to Jen for the moments when she realizes that for all her judgments about adultery, she's aligned herself with a former stripper and <cough> call girl who has a sex tape on Porn Hub. 

Didn't Jen also say something like "How come I didn't know about this?" when Marge brought up the sex tape?  

I love Danielle's faux outrage at her own willing promiscuous past - as far as I know, no one held her hostage or forced her to do any of the things she's done.  

[Reality police]

I think this is Danielle's end game. 

Won't be long.

[luckyroll3]

7 minutes ago, Reality police said:

I think this is Danielle's end game. 

Won't be long.

She's pretty darn close!

[ghoulina]

4 hours ago, teapot said:

omg same here....I said something about Teddi Mellencamp selling Shakeology & had like four people being like, no, she's a legitimate businesswoman, why would she do that?  *sigh*

This is amazing! I compared Teddi's business to a pyramid scheme myself. Just the way she explains it....made me laugh. 

[ichbin]

1 hour ago, jalady said:

I give less than a whit about Juicy's citizenship status but I'm curious:  why didn't marrying American citizen Tre allow him to become a citizen?  Or was he just too lazy to do the paperwork and take the test?

He came to the as a small child with his parents.  They were here legally and Joe has a green card (permanent resident).  He could have applied for citizenship even before marrying Teresa.  Permanent residents do not have to ever apply for citizenship.  They can still get most of the same benefits enjoyed by citizens.  One thing they cant do is vote in national elections.  Some jobs require citizenship as well.  Joe is now experiencing another important drawback.  There could be a lot of reasons why he didn't apply, the simplest being that he probably felt he didn't need to.  

[teapot]

2 hours ago, kicksave said:

That pantsuit was hideous and poorly made. 

what is going on with pants suits lately?  first Katie on WWHL and now  Danielle...both very strong arguments AGAINST!!!

[bichonblitz]

Jeez, You could cut glass on Danielle's  Beverly's silicone cheeks. 

Marge was the MVP of Part 3! She has a quick wit and a quicker tongue. She took Danielle way, way, down to the point of speechless. Tre was probably thinking, oh, shit, maybe I should switch sides now...

[Kiki777]

7 hours ago, TattleTeeny said:

"Your husband's in the pool" is just so perfect--the abrupt yet nondramatic, casual matter-of-factness of it, the fact that she didn't even stop walking to say it. It's so perfect and funny that I laughed at it yet again just typing this. Even better than "Who, the bag-checker?"

Her saucy delivery of 'ya husband's in the pool' was fabulous.  She's Mae West with a Jersey accent.

[Gam2]

I actually laughed out loud when Danielle walked out in that hideous, ill fitting, shiny pant suit. However. When she sat down and the camera went to her face, I was appalled. I haven’t seen her for a long time and couldn’t believe what she’d done to her face! How does she have the money to pay for this hideous plastic surgery? And why in the hell would she? Her daughters have to tell her to just stop. She already looks like an alien from another planet!!

[njbchlover]

3 hours ago, ichbin said:

He came to the as a small child with his parents.  They were here legally and Joe has a green card (permanent resident).  He could have applied for citizenship even before marrying Teresa.  Permanent residents do not have to ever apply for citizenship.  They can still get most of the same benefits enjoyed by citizens.  One thing they cant do is vote in national elections.  Some jobs require citizenship as well.  Joe is now experiencing another important drawback.  There could be a lot of reasons why he didn't apply, the simplest being that he probably felt he didn't need to.  

Or, that he knew he wasn't bright enough to pass the citizenship test?  I don't think that Joe G. is the sharpest tool in the shed (he may be a tool, just not the sharpest one...).

But, I also agree with you, because he is an egotistical tool, so he would feel no reason to do anything that he didn't feel necessary.

I'm still perplexed as to how he traveled back and forth to Italy in Season 2 without a valid passport. I mean, they traveled to Italy long after 9/11, when tougher restrictions on travel were imposed.  Did he have a valid passport from Italy?  If so, wouldn't he have had to renew that one several times during his lifetime?  Wouldn't that clue him in to maybe, just maybe, applying for U.S. citizenship?  

[Carolina Girl]

5 hours ago, esco1822 said:

(I have a friend taking the test Wednesday!!)

Here's fingers crossed for your friend!  

[msrachelj]

17 hours ago, Callaphera said:

In Parts 1 to 27 of this finale, I had issues with Teresa's diagonal boob window on her dress (okay, it's not a boob window but I don't know what else to call it) but man, when she stood up tonight during Part 32, it really made her look like she had a single boob on one side and absolutely nothing on the other. I also had a little too much wine while watching and figured that they used Teresa's missing boob to make Danielle's cheekbone shelves because damn. Another half inch of overhang and you could rest your beer bottle on them at a party. She's gonna be hanging Christmas lights off of those come December. 

why ARE teresa's fake bags of boobs hanging so low? she needs to go back and have those puppies lifted. although, she is one fugly bitch so it won't help all that much. between the cave man hair line, the leather skin, the troweled on makeup, the muscular unfeminine body....etc...she and her husband are lying cheating pieces of shit. 

[GreenlinetoHarlem]

This was a fun reunion and a really entertaining season. I’m going to miss these crazy broads! 

[biakbiak]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

I'm still perplexed as to how he traveled back and forth to Italy in Season 2 without a valid passport. I mean, they traveled to Italy long after 9/11, when tougher restrictions on travel were imposed.  Did he have a valid passport from Italy?  If so, wouldn't he have had to renew that one several times during his lifetime?  Wouldn't that clue him in to maybe, just maybe, applying for U.S. citizenship?  

He would have had to have a valid Italian passport which is why the initial defense that that he wasn’t aware when it first came out was a load of horseshit. 

[ichbin]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

But, I also agree with you, because he is an egotistical tool, so he would feel no reason to do anything that he didn't feel necessary.

I'm still perplexed as to how he traveled back and forth to Italy in Season 2 without a valid passport. I mean, they traveled to Italy long after 9/11, when tougher restrictions on travel were imposed.  Did he have a valid passport from Italy?  If so, wouldn't he have had to renew that one several times during his lifetime?  Wouldn't that clue him in to maybe, just maybe, applying for U.S. citizenship?  

He would have used an Italian passport. Permanent residents of the USA can still travel. They just need to keep their citizenship country passports up to date. The only restrictions would be on the amount of time they can remain out of the country before once again touching USA soil.  

The decision to apply for citizenship is personal.  When my parents became citizens I also did.  They did all of the paperwork, etc. because I was a minor.  I'm assuming if Joe's parents became citizens they did so after he was of age, otherwise he could have gotten his with theirs.  I remember only having to answer a few questions.  Not test or anything like an adult would have had to do.

[brillia79]

Margaret went for the jugular with Danielle and I’m here for it all day! Also, love that she pointed out that Marty’s comments sounded like they came straight from Danielle’s mouth. Especially after we watched Danielle give dim bulb Teresa that pep talk at Jennifer’s party.

Tre had nothing else to say to Jackie after the parole comment. Just rolled her eyes and smirked the rest of the time.

Jennifer’s husband didn’t back up her nonsense at all, even said he agreed with Jackie. And then, acted shocked to find out she backed the wrong horse by backing Danielle the prostitution whore after her comments on traditions and cheating. I almost felt bad for her. It sucks to find out you’re sitting on the loser couch at a reunion.

And the bracelet from her brother’s jewelry store wasn’t anything special. If she hadn’t said it was from her brother’s store, I would’ve assumed it was a Michael’s craft project.

[Jeanne222]

Melissa needed a Jackie in her life to help her deal with Theresa.  I hope Jackie never leaves!

[ichbin]

45 minutes ago, biakbiak said:

He would have had to have a valid Italian passport which is why the initial defense that that he wasn’t aware when it first came out was a load of horseshit. 

I honestly would not be surprised if I were to learn he didn't understand the distinctions between being a permanent resident and citizenship and thought he needed the Italian passport because he was born there.  Not having citizenship for over 30 years probably didn't have any affect on his day to day life up until this happened.  The only time it would be an issue was if he wanted to vote in federal elections.  Considering the number of eligible citizens who don't consider doing that its possible he never gave it any thought aside from knowing he was in the country legally.  I have my doubts as to whether or not T fully understood it either.

[biakbiak]

1 minute ago, ichbin said:

if I were to learn he didn't understand the distinctions between being a permanent resident and citizenship and thought he needed the Italian passport because he was born there

But then it was contradicted by Teresa saying that she had tried to convincs him to become a citizen. He knew they are just liars who lie about everything. Also, his parents are citizens and even if they became one when he was an adult he would still know the differences.

[njbchlover]

I also have been pondering the whole thing with Teresa saying that she and the girls won't go to Italy if Joe is deported.  I'm assuming they would get a divorce.

I don't think she is smart enough, but I wonder if she is setting up her storyline for next season?  Look at it this way - she will be the hard-working single Mom, struggling and sacrificing the love of her life for her daughters' sake - all the while also taking care of her ailing, sometimes difficult father.  

I'm kind of torn about this, because I don't want to think that she would forsake her husband for the show, but last night was the first time that we've seen her not sticking up for Joe, or declaring undying love for him.  It was also the first time that she alluded to him having other women--she said something about him having other women while living away from her in Italy.  I think these years he's been "away" have been a wake up call to her - she's learned that she doesn't need to depend on a man to support her, and maybe she's liking the independence.  (Although I do think that confuses her, as she was brought up with and fully embraced such traditional/old school values, and Joe was happy with that as well.)

What I think would be more interesting to see would be if Joe does NOT get deported, and seeing how they both deal with him being back in the household.  I think it could be interesting to see how they come to terms with each of their roles in the household.  Teresa has been raising the girls and making the money for the past 3 years and in that time, I think she's built up a whole lot of resentment toward Joe, (as she still is convinced that she was duped by him).  He, on the other hand, will come out of jail filled with his own resentment at what life has thrown at him (again, not taking personal accountability), and will not be able to "pick up the pieces" of his previous life as easily as he may think.

Either way, I think they are headed for a divorce.  I do think that Teresa is hoping he will be deported so that she can blame the breakup on the long distance relationship, as she said last night.

Edited March 8, 2019 by njbchlover

[DeeplyShallow]

3 hours ago, brillia79 said:

And the bracelet from her brother’s jewelry store wasn’t anything special. If she hadn’t said it was from her brother’s store, I would’ve assumed it was a Michael’s craft project.

That bracelet was so tacky & cheap looking

[Giselle]

I loved the look on Andy's face when Teresa and Danielle were hugging. He looked straight at the camera and his expression conveyed what we all thought.

[Giselle]

9 hours ago, DeeplyShallow said:

That bracelet was so tacky & cheap looking

Agreed, but remember Jen looks for bargains and discounts. Come on it was sitting in the jewlery store junk drawer of pieces they can't sell.

It was all pretty awful. If it were me I'd take the "Strong" necklace, the "DT" dreck, and the friendship bracelet melt 'em down and make something I really liked. 

[Mr. Miner]

13 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I don't think she is smart enough, but I wonder if she is setting up her storyline for next season?

I hope not, I don't give a shit. I really think the RHWONJ could go on without Teresa. My IQ went down every time she came on the screen.

[Giselle]

If Danielle gets pushed on us by Bravo I hope Margaret calls that prostituting, kidnapping, bitch "Beverly" at every turn and keeps asking her about the kidnapping.

Contrast and compare her booking photo with what we saw this reunion. Read what she did if you don't know already.

https://gawker.com/5271650/the-real-stripping-coke-fiend-of-new-jersey

Rancid frosting that can't hide weevil infested cake.

Hopefully the bitch and Bravo have learned their lesson.

[Kiki777]

14 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I'm kind of torn about this, because I don't want to think that she would forsake her husband for the show,

Honestly I think she'd forsake Joe and the kids for the show - not that it will come to that, but if the girls actually do choose to live wih their dad, I can't imagine Teresa giving up the D-list fame, money, and big crappy house for anything.

[abbottrabbit]

I don't want to give Joe and/or Theresa too much credit (and I feel like giving them credit for any kind of foresight is already too much), but is there any chance he retained his Italian citizenship so the girls would be or would have the option of being dual citizens? 

(I say this as someone who would kill for a second passport, and has looked into the requirements for Italian citizenship -- my understanding is you can qualify as long as a great-grandparent or more recent relative was born in Italy, and your most recent Italian-born ancestor didn't renounce)