Season 6 Discussion

[endure]

Kalani  just grow up and take some responsibility for your own actions.  And now that you're about to wed here's some advice, your husband comes first before your sister or your other family members.

[endure]

Steven's confession sure explained a lot about his shady behaviour and evasive answers regarding her supposed visa application.  I understand his reasoning but surely that should have been disclosed to Olga from the start, a lot of immaturity on his part.  She is far too trusting and forgiving toward him.

[LellePCC]

I think Steven’s proposal was a get-out-of-jail-free card for lying about the visa. Come on, man. You’ve been a bully to Olga since you arrived in Russia. Oh how things change when the embassy says that you can’t just steal a baby from his mother!

[LilaFowler]

Steven/Olga: he only ever talks about "my son" -- never anything about Olga. I think when he went to the US Embassy, it was to determine if he could leave the country with Ritchie without Olga's permission or knowledge. He was told no, so he proposed. He lied to her for months, what a scumbag. Olga is so vulnerable that she will cling to anything. Watching them makes me very uncomfortable.

Kalani/Asuelu: codependent, incestuous weirdness from her and her family. I don't like watching them either.

Fernanda/Jon: neither one is mature. I hope they wait a long time to have kids because the last thing they need in that house is another screaming, whining, needy creature.

Eric/Leida: she's a real piece of shit and so is he. They are perfectly matched and neither deserves better. She doesn't care if he ever sees his daughters again. Deep down he knows it but this is his "last chance at love." I would be done with him if I were his kids after seeing this. I wish Eric and Leida nothing but the very worst.

Ashley/Jay: I was laughing when she was bawling over his cheating. She was told that he was cheating months ago and didn't want to listen. In fact, she boldly proclaimed that Jesus Christ could tell her that Jay was cheating and she wouldn't care. Jay didn't even wait one day after returning from the honeymoon to start hooking up with girls on Tinder. She won't divorce or leave him, though. We know that she won't.

Colt/Larissa: was all of their stuff producer-driven? Larissa was so against living with Debbie for so long, then all of a sudden, she wants her to stay? Just like that, huh? I feel like it was all fake.

[PityFree]

Nothing on this earth will ever look as ridiculous as a 30-year-old mother of a seven-month-old baby standing in the bar section of an Applebee’s wearing a giant wedding veil. When you are 30 and pregnant with your second child, the bachelorette party ship has sailed.

[Cammi]

One week for Jay to make a dating profile on Tinder? Couldn't even just cheat on Facebook, but freaking TINDER? That's like a double slap to the face imo. At least if he got caught sliding into dm's on Facebook, he could've maybe talked his way out of it saying it was just friends or something. But making a profile on a website specifically for dating is a whole other matter. Maybe Ashley needs to have Molly's number on speed dial? One. Week. He never stopped cheating is my bet. Jay is Luis part deux. 

Well wasn't Leida all proud of herself for her part in making Eric choose.  So satisfied she is number 1! Her callousness just boggles my mind. All because of a messy apartment! You would've think Eric's daughter physically harmed her. She couldn't be an adult and say let's let bygones be bygones and have a new start? This bitch lives on drama. I imagine it's like her air.  She's doing what abusive spouses to do best. And that's alienate their partner from their friends and family. Classic textbook abuser. And a Eric deserves all the misery from this Indonesian 4. 

Leida, it was Eric's  responsibility to have a nice, clean, furnished place for you and your son to live. He didn't even provide you or your son with a "proper" bed! Any grown man would have moved out on their own, instead of commandeering an apartment that had their own daughter on the lease. Leida and Eric are the biggest losers this show has featured and that's saying a lot. 

[PityFree]

 Oh also Ashley, I have no idea why you forked out money for a limousine, a fancy bridal gown, professional hair and make up, etc. only to get married by Elvis in person impersonator...with absolutely no one else present!  Her bartending gig must pay very well.

 I was actually very impressed when Fernanda said she’s OK apologizing and “losing” an argument because she loves her husband and so when he wins, she wins also.  I wish I had been that mature when I was her age.

[Morgalisa]

This was the trainwreckiest of train-wreck episodes. I need just one couple to be happy. They're all hurtling down the track heading for a derailment. 

[Kiss my mutt]

These people are just a whole bag of stupid. 

[Chickabiddy]

Umm, yeah, Eric, you are not between a rock and a hard place, asshole, you are between your daughter and a psycho bitch wife to be. Despite all your protestations to the contrary, you have total control of the situation and can make a choice in favor of the girls you claim to love so much. Oh, but wait, you tearfully informed us that you’ve been doing for your children for 20 years, and now it’s time to do for you?  Newsflash: parenthood doesn’t just stop when you’re ready for it to end; it’s  an ongoing commitment. Just ask your dad, he seems to have given you money several times during your adulthood.

I don’t want to throw shade at Eric’s girls. They have enough going on without that, but why the fuckety fuck does Olga from a “poorer country with fewer opportunities” look cleaner and better groomed than all three of those girls? Although, I got to say the Tasha looks way better with the lighter hair. Talk about 110% improvement.

I hope everyone who thought Fernanda was an immature brat and totally unready for marriage last episode is now eating crow after listening to her very mature, responsible apology letter and discussion with Jonathan. I was impressed by her ability to be humble and take one for the team for both of them. And for the record, I was impressed by Jonathan’s ability to see things from her perspective. His realization deserves a gold star, too. 🌟 

And why the fuck is Kolini bawling like a jilted lover when she found our Kalani is pregnant? It’s like she was holding out hope that Kalani would leave Asuelo at the alter for her....and now the pregnancy makes that wild dream impossible. And again with the “Asuelo did this on purpose just to stay in America.” As if he fucking sneaked up on Kalani with a fucking turkey baster under the cover of night. Something in that family just ain’t right.. And  I am so over the blaming, shaming and hating of Asuelo. 

Ashley, Ashley, Ashley, once a player, always a player. Girl, you should know better at your age. I bet the smug-o-meter at Natalie’s house broke the minute Ashley knocked on the door. Maybe next time Ashley won’t be so quick to throw  her friends overboard for a hot piece of ass...

Colt and  Larissa - Don’t care  and can’t be bothered. Though Debbie did admit he was a Mana’s Boy. That surprised me.

For now, I really hope Steven and Olga work out. That little bit of unexpected pleasantness between them let me forgo the second martini. ;-) Maybe Christmas did come early this year.  

Edited December 24, 2018 by Chickabiddy

[Frozendiva]

Steven, the US Embassy has rules. You can't just take your child and go back to the US.  Both you and Olga should have visited the Embassy so that everyone is in the same book and same chapter and same page. I hope that the proposal was sincere and not a diversion for you. Go back to the US, have a long talk with your guardians, tell them how shabbily you behaved (i.e. being scummier than scum and filled with rage and control) and that you are turning in to your father, and you don't want to go down that road. Richie is not just your son. Olga comes with that package and she is a real person who deserves respect and honesty from you. Otherwise, Richie will stay in Russia, Olga will find a loving stepfather, and you will not see him for a long time.

The K family - Kalani, Kolini et al. Kolini, you are not the baby daddy. Let your sister live her life, let her make her mistakes, let her fall for the wrong guy, etc. etc. Support her if you wish, but back off. There is way too much codependence happening. Reminds me of a former Russian coworker - she, her sister, and mother all seemed to function as one unit. Asuelu will eventually clue in that life in America is different, there are no coconut trees for him to climb, he can't entertain at a resort unless it's in Vegas, and that he will have to get some marketable skills and get a job to provide for his kids. Whether or not Kalani will be his wife is to be determined. And Kalani, you will need to find a job. I didn't get Kalani wearing the weird bridal outfit at her shower. Granted, under her circumstance, dinner out with friends should have been enough. Not every event needs alcohol. Could have been a booze-free night for all.

Jay, have you met Luis? You are 20 years old, you don't want to get committed or married yet. So tell that to Ashley. Leave and let her find someone who will step up and marry her. Finding another woman or looking for dates one week after you got married? Why bother? Discuss an open marriage with your new 'wife'. You disrespected yourself first and foremost, you disrespected your wife. She did a lot to get you to the US and this is the thanks. Chances are you have many other women on speed-dial.  Ashley, why did you spend the money on the dress, the hair, the makeup, etc. to get married by an Elvis impersonator.  Better to cancel the engagement the third time than to end up with Jay. He wasn't going to be your true love and you knew that.

Leida, why aren't your eyebrows shaped? You'd think that for the wedding, you would want to look your best. A trial makeup run? You also didn't visit the hair salon to see your hair before the big day? Why are you marrying that putz? You don't respect him, you don't respect his family and kids - it's all about you and your needs and wants. He has other baggage that he is bringing in to this relationship.  You have made little to no effort to get along with his children, you berate them, you kick them out, you insist that you are Eric's only priority. Um, the kids come with the deal, as does his child support. Suck it up, Princess.

Fernanda, you are going to have to figure out what you are going to do with your time when you marry Jon. He is a realtor who works variable hours. He may have to close a house sale at 11 pm some days. He can't be at your beck and call. If you go to school, you will probably outgrow him. Writing him a letter is all nice, but it doesn't really do much. Maybe when you find a job and get something going with your days, your relationship will improve. Right now, you are the toddler to his parent. He cannot keep unconditionally giving to you.

Debbie, your true colours are even more beautiful like a rainbow. You don't want your son getting married and being pushed aside for his new wife. You like the system as it is. Larissa is just a toy for you. Coltee is your true life partner (besides your husband). Move out, and let Coltee grow up and stop being a mama's boy.

[Pondlass1]

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

[hisbunkie]

When all is said and done, I’m Team Colt.  The rest of the men can learn something by watching him (not his body, though).

He honors his family members 

He is respectful to everyone

He speaks calmly and purposefully 

He appears to be mindful of how he spends his money.  He is not easily manipulated to spend money he has not budgeted for (travel tickets,sofa,car,apartment,clothes, wedding venue) no matter how pouty his fiancé gets

When his fiancé threatens to leave, he follows up with a search for one way tickets.  Notice how sweet Larissa became once she saw threats did not work.   

Colt established control in the relationship the minute he did not cave in to Larissa’s demands.  

[LilaFowler]

6 minutes ago, Chickabiddy said:

I hope everyone who thought Fernanda was an immature brat and totally unready for marriage last episode is now eating crow after listening to her very mature, responsible apology letter and discussion with Jonathan. I was impressed by her ability to be humble and take one for the team for both of them. And for the record, I was impressed by Jonathan’s ability to see things from her perspective. His realization deserves a gold star, too. 🌟

Actually no, I'm not eating crow nor will I when the "apology letter" was like something straight out of middle school. In the end, she immaturely demanded that he agree to her terms of "when I say 'come to the home, I need you now' you leave, yes??" which is practically guaranteeing another epic, childish meltdown from her.

[Cammi]

I was snarking on the live thread and not fully paying 100% attention.... Rewatching the park scene with Eric and Leida now. Her accent is tough for me, did she just say "You chose me over your daughter and I want to thank you for that"???????

What. The. Actual. Fuck??????

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

I went from SMH at the dumb Elvis vows, to feeling really badly for Ashley in a hot minute. 

Kalani NO END to despising her. 

[hisbunkie]

16 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Or pay for the wedding?  Or help her financially so she does not have to depend on a man she knows briefly. 

For that matter, how is it that her “famous medical doctor father” is not able to help her land a spot in a US medical school. 

[PityFree]

 Who paid for Leida’s make up trial?  That seems awfully extravagant for pauper Eric.

[Adeejay]

I wish my husband would punch a hole in my wall after I caught him on Tinder and then tell me if I want him out I am going to have to call the police.  I would be calling the coroner, instead.  

[Frozendiva]

Leida didn't visit a Sephora or a department store makeup counter. Maybe she got a deal with a trial and full-makeup for the wedding- well, probably a bumped-up price to cover both.

[sainte-chapelle]

23 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I went from SMH at the dumb Elvis vows, to feeling really badly for Ashley in a hot minute. 

Kalani NO END to despising her. 

Ashley is incredibly stupid but I don't think she is a bad person.....Leida and Kalini on the other hand....

[renatae]

Kolini, you need to find a different occupation than Chief Handwringer Over Kalani's Life. It's not all about you. Although the timing stinks, there's nothing to be done at this point, and this is not The Greatest Tragedy Ever. Please, you two, grow up and get therapy. You are not a couple, and your relationship is completely messed up.

[renatae]

1 hour ago, Kiss my mutt said:

These people are just a whole bag of stupid. 

Besides which, I'm afraid that at this point, there is no way to get a whole lot stupider because they've all hit the extreme limit.

[hoosiermom]

1 hour ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Because she is one of the maids that was working for the wealthy family. MOO

[PinkFlamingo]

I am shocked... SHOCKED that Jay waited until the day after arriving back from Vegas to create a tinder account. 

[Major Bigtime]

1 hour ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Probably because they aren’t rich.

People who have money don’t brag about it. The ones who do ain’t got a dime, but want people to think they do so they will be catered to on someone else’s dime.

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, PityFree said:

Nothing on this earth will ever look as ridiculous as a 30-year-old mother of a seven-month-old baby standing in the bar section of an Applebee’s wearing a giant wedding veil.

don't forget to accessorize with a penis necklace! 

[HappyDancex2]

I can’t believe that when Ashley found out Baby Skinz was peddling the D online she ran straight to Scooter Girl.  For all of the hair flipping and finger wagging she did of her on national TV we sure didn’t get a good scene of her choking down the massive slice of humble pie.

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Yeah, why did they come the beginning of the 90 days and not for the wedding? 

1 hour ago, Frozendiva said:

Leida didn't visit a Sephora or a department store makeup counter. Maybe she got a deal with a trial and full-makeup for the wedding- well, probably a bumped-up price to cover both.

The name of the salon, "Arch" was shown a few times guaranteeing them free advertising and TV exposure. 

[juicyfruit]

During the limo ride after the Heartbreak Hotel wedding, Ashley's face spoke a thousand words. She already knew she had made a big mistake.

[juicyfruit]

Jay had it planned from the start. He created the Tinder account the night of the wedding and when she finds out he states that he'd like to see her make him leave now that they are married?  He totally knew she was on the hook once the papers were signed and he was free to do as he pleased. Shady with a capital S.

Which makes me wonder, could she have recourse for an annulment?  "He frauded me!"

[Kangatush]

Did I miss Eric telling us he had a terminal disease?  Are there suddenly no other single women on Earth?  Why is this his, "last chance at love"?  He's only 40.  And his crying about his time spent focusing on his kids might hold more weight if his youngest was 18.  And if he can identify emotional blackmail, why has he never once called Leida out for it?

I have zero sympathy for Ashley.  She was told he was a cheater too many times.  She ignored everyone.  Yet she had no problem not getting married before.  Lie in that bed you made, and maybe hide your car keys so he actually needs to work a little to get his random ass.

Steven is still shit.  She called him out on lying, but immediately backed down when he proposed.  Even though he never answered the question about why he wasn't honest.

I'll admit, I find Family Kolonic kind of fascinating.  It's like logic doesn't exist in their world.  I thought wanting to marry the father of your children, provided he's not abusive, or a criminal or something, is a good thing.  Why is everyone scared that Kolini or Father Kalani might stop the wedding if they know about the pregnancy?

[HappyDancex2]

Do you think the reason why we didn’t see anything related to Ashely and Jays honeymoon is because they basically just did the casino scene etc and it was technically illegal?  As long as he didn’t want a players card he could pretty much gamble and she could cash out chips.  We got zero footage and they committed no funds to honeymoon locations for footage.  

[islandgal140]

I guess Kolini isn't thrilled to be a father again?!?! LOL! Does Kalini not know how sex works? She has consensual, unprotected sex with Asuelu yet somehow through no fault of her own, Asuelu viciously and maliciously MADE her pregnant. Has sex changed in the last 5 years. Do males now come equipped with on/off baby batter button? Did Asuelu forget to turn his switch to off?

Jay looked like an usher for Satan in hell on orientation day in that damn red suit. Tacky, tacky, tacky. Elvis officiant was funny though.  Ashley's wedding dress was .... interesting.  

Lawd, the ink isn't even dry on the marriage certificate and Jay is already cheating? I guess a heavy sack needs constant tending by different sack handlers. I hope Ashley's friend gasses up the Vespa and comes a knockin' hard on her door again

 

Eric vexes me to no end. So he had no control over how his daughter was kicked out of her own damn 'partment? I guess it was a dream I had when I heard him on speaker phone tell her to 'get her shit and get out.' Did he even give a fuck if she had somewhere to lay her head when she was cast out? Who am I kidding? Of course not. Father of the year offered to secure lodging for his 19 year daughter at a crack den motel. And he expects her to come to his Section 8 wedding after that? His broke bitch ass probably just needs gifts - toaster, towels and most importantly CASH.

He hopes rational minds will prevail? So not Leida's then? Sure donkey, cast your children aside for a woman who threatens to leave you and go back to her country every time she doesn't get what she wants. Unconditional love is apparently not on the menu with their marriage.  If Leida is his last chance at love, Sweet Jebus is he in trouble. I think he is confusing love with chronic and persistent anal spasms. 

Leida allegedly had a team of makeup artists and stylists on staff in Indonesia, yet she stays dressing like the Roseanne character in cheap looking oversized shirts and leggings

LOL at Leida commenting on being alone at her makeup trial and saying Eric's daughter you know "just stopped talking to her." As if it was for no reason. Like Leida herself hasn't made it a point to alienate every single member of Eric's family? 

 

2 hours ago, LilaFowler said:

Ashley/Jay: I was laughing when she was bawling over his cheating. She was told that he was cheating months ago and didn't want to listen. In fact, she boldly proclaimed that Jesus Christ could tell her that Jay was cheating and she wouldn't care. Jay didn't even wait one day after returning from the honeymoon to start hooking up with girls on Tinder. She won't divorce or leave him, though. We know that she won't..

Haven't you heard?!?! Since this advent of social media, Tinder was added to the holy Trinity.  Instead of The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, it is now The Father, the Son and Tinder. Tinder is now seated at the right hand of the Father. 

Edited December 24, 2018 by islandgal140

[HappyDancex2]

I still feel like everyone this season (more obvious than other seasons) was given a role to play.  Larissa is batshit and she was coy and manipulative at the end...until she decided to make nice with MomColtie in front of the suspiciously chatty nail techs.  come Live With Us!   Yeah right.

Even Steven seemed like he could play the role of indignant father fighting for Myson....until he lost his lines and reasoning there at the end.  Olga didn’t look like she believed he was going to leave with the baby but had to play her role and just let the hormones and general situation keep her crying.  The “out” of their storyline was her K1 Visa application.  Uh huh.

Seems suspicious since he has no money and no sponsors.  The storyline had too many holes.  

The Kalinikolonis have the worst storyline ever.  Uptalking and weeping.  

Until in comes chapped lipped Leida and her staccato nasally barking ass voice.  I doan care! I go back to Indonesia!  You half to choos!

[guilfoyleatpp]

You KNOW a relationship is doomed when one party says “NAME is my last chance at love.”

 

Like, if your soon to be spouse said that to you, wouldn’t you be either offended or saddened by their lack of self esteem or both?

Someone who hears that and thinks “oh yeah, that’s just where I want them“ is a manipulative and possibly abusive narcissist. 

Eg: Leida 

[Dance4Life]

Oh, yea!  Family Kalani!  Get ready.  Another mouth to feed.  That makes 3 + Kalani=4.

 

How long are yall gonna allow this go on before someone gives Kalani a ride to Planned Parenthood???

[millennium]

Before, I had only a vague dislike of Jay.   But after what we saw in those last few minutes, that arrogance ... like he knew this was coming and was maybe even coached about what his rights are.    He did say his mother's in the states, didn't he?   It's sounding more and more like a con.  They found an American girl with low self-esteem and preyed on her.

Ashley's anger at Natalie was born of denial.   She knew Natalie was right, she just didn't want to hear it because it would destroy all her desperate fantasies.

I don't know how to react to Ashley.   Part of me is channeling Shirley Manson and thinking "stupid girl," but part of me knows she's this way because one guy after another treated her like shit, beginning with her father.   I don't think Ashley ever said anything about her father but she doesn't have to.   Her choices speak volumes.   You can try to talk sense to girls like Ashley but the damage is so deep and done so long ago that this is just who they are.  

[Eme]

Thank goodness Olga has a Friend who is able to see through Steven.  Olga needs to keep that friend very close so she can help decipher Steven's motives...

Kept wondering where exactly Steven thinks he will leave Myson when he, presumably, goes out to work to feed Myson?  His selfishness and immaturity are breathtaking.  I am guessing the Producers had to have clued him in on how some of his actions come across because he was, no way - no how, getting there on his own.  Olga is leagues above him and he needs to get a grip and realize that soon.

Family Kalani appears to have never met Kalani.  They take everything she says at face value.  I can't get past the fact that Asuelo said she was on him constantly getting her conjugal attention from him.  There is absolutely no surprise that she is pregnant...then or now.  The only thing I can believe is that she is so repressed that she can't admit that she is into Asuelo and that she wants to be with him and continue to have family with him.  She constantly throws him under the bus and talks crap about him.  He is what he is, but she chose him, brought him here, and needs to treat him with Respect and talk respectfully about him to her family.  She is ridiculous and is doing herself no favors in polarizing her family against her husband.

Eric deserves Lieda.  

Ashley should never have tempted fate when she said she did not care if he cheated on her....well, well, well.....are we supposed to feel bad for her when she puts that out there in the universe? Also, can't Ashley get an annulment since he had no intention of making this a Real Marriage because he immediately started a Dating Profile?  Maybe she can get rid of him, and not pay for him for the next 10 years that way......the cops can come indeed.....

Edited December 24, 2018 by Eme

[millennium]

3 hours ago, LilaFowler said:

Steven/Olga: he only ever talks about "my son" -- never anything about Olga. I think when he went to the US Embassy, it was to determine if he could leave the country with Ritchie without Olga's permission or knowledge. He was told no, so he proposed. He lied to her for months, what a scumbag. Olga is so vulnerable that she will cling to anything. Watching them makes me very uncomfortable.

 

First thing I said was "Somebody had a talk with that boy and set him straight."

Steven is motivated by self-interest only.   When he discovered he would be unable to light out with Richie in tow, he went straight to Plan B.

[PinkFlamingo]

It's always awkward when a woman has to tell her husband that she is giving birth to another man's baby.  Oh wait, did I say husband? I meant sister...

[Fouts]

I, too, loved Fernanda's letter, but grew suspicious of it as producer-driven when I saw Larissa use the same word "perspective" in her nail salon apology time with Debbie.  Makes me go hmmm.  I still find Coltee disturbing, but agree that after all the hysteria amongst these couples, there's something oddly reassuring about his monotone voice.  The most enthusiasm we've ever heard from him was in his response to Debbie's idea of homemade pizza.  

Good for Eric's daughters for not caving into his manipulations.  Their hair may need some help, but their mom seems to have instilled some good sense into those girls.  I hope they don't attend his wedding. Somebody should respond to Eric that when--not if--his "last chance at love" leaves him in the dust, he'll be more alone than ever with his daughters alienated from him, perhaps permanently if he continues with his treatment of them.  

I'm curious about something regarding Jay.  Why did he fret so much in front of the camera about getting married so young if he knew it was all part of a grander scheme to stay in the country and screw around-- with his poor bride on the financial hook for him?  I find this story particularly upsetting, but maybe it's just too close to home.  (Our daughter found evidence of cheating husband on his phone, and he broke her phone in response.  When he was supposedly back to faithfulness, he used MY computer--without my knowledge--where he saved his password on his Facebook page.  Later I happened upon it and saw all the women he'd been trolling on his messaging there.  When we pointed this out, he threatened to call the police on me for invasion of privacy.  So happy they're divorced now.)

[monagatuna]

7 hours ago, Floatingbison said:

I can understand wanting to make a change.  I'm an attorney and there's times I want to quit and be a farmer, and I have a relatively good practice.  I think for some people who aren't cut out to be lawyers, the urge to leave for real estate is strong.  

I can see that. For her I think she could give or take practicing law, but I adore it. I don't see myself being a litigator or trial lawyer (although that is so intriguing and interesting), but I absolutely love my paper-pushing job. Being a realtor sounds hideously stressful (not excusing Jonathan's foibles, of course).

[doyouevengohere]

3 hours ago, hisbunkie said:

Or pay for the wedding?  Or help her financially so she does not have to depend on a man she knows briefly. 

For that matter, how is it that her “famous medical doctor father” is not able to help her land a spot in a US medical school. 

Her family might have some money, but I think they were really glad to get rid of her.  I'm sure she caused problems even within their own family and has already embarrassed them among their friends, family, and community.  The whole trip over here was to check it out for Allessandro's sake.  They hate Eric, but determined that AHLESS wasn't going to be sold for magic beans so they let Ledia have her way to get her out of their everyday lives.  I really wish they had left Ledia to her fate and taken Ahless back with them; they seemed to really love him as opposed to Ledia who just seems to grunt at him and scream obscenities in front of him (you know that's a regular occurance and that she's always mad at someone).

[Inuksuk2010]

5 hours ago, Pondlass1 said:

I don’t understand why Leida’s wealthy family cannot come for the wedding?  

Probably because they are so glad to be rid of her... can't imagine having a daughter like her helps the family reputation much, maybe they are afraid she might try and go home with them. 

[Stacee]

Don't really care about John and Fernanda at this point. Fernanda is so young and a bit naive and I find myself viewing whatever she says and does through that lens. John is a drama queen and I think he thrives on the attention of the cameras and how jealous and insecure Fernanda is. I like her but watching them gives me a headache.

I like Ashley. She seems to have a good heart but she picked a loser.

I like Larissa too. I don't think she's crazy, I just feel she has specific needs that Colter can't meet. I don't think its unreasonable to prefer not to live with your fiancée's mom but she came into this situation knowing that was on the table. She'll have to choose to learn to live with both because at this point it looks like neither of the issues are changing.

Kelani needs to grow up. I just wish Asuelo had someone in his life that could give him good advice and to recommend he run away from this judgemental and intrusive family. They will be in his business because Kalani will leave that door wide open for them to do so. He's not suited emotionally to deal with their constant blame, derision and scapegoating. I sure hope Kalani's coochWAH is worth it.

[trimthatfat]

6 hours ago, juicyfruit said:

Jay had it planned from the start. He created the Tinder account the night of the wedding and when she finds out he states that he'd like to see her make him leave now that they are married?  He totally knew she was on the hook once the papers were signed and he was free to do as he pleased. Shady with a capital S.

Which makes me wonder, could she have recourse for an annulment?  "He frauded me!"

This. I knew Ashley was trying to put on a brave face when she said she didn’t care if he cheated. I believe she very much cared and just didn’t want people to know. And now, she has actual proof that Jay is slanging his penis around so she can’t be in denial anymore. I hope she does get a divorce. He knew what he was doing by getting on the app right after the wedding.

I know one might argue that he’s 19/20 so what did Ashley expect...but I knew cheating was wrong at that age.

8 hours ago, PityFree said:

Nothing on this earth will ever look as ridiculous as a 30-year-old mother of a seven-month-old baby standing in the bar section of an Applebee’s wearing a giant wedding veil. When you are 30 and pregnant with your second child, the bachelorette party ship has sailed.

Did you miss the pink penis necklace? Was the highlight of that outfit for me.

[Scarlett45]

6 hours ago, doyouevengohere said:

Her family might have some money, but I think they were really glad to get rid of her.  I'm sure she caused problems even within their own family and has already embarrassed them among their friends, family, and community.  The whole trip over here was to check it out for Allessandro's sake.  They hate Eric, but determined that AHLESS wasn't going to be sold for magic beans so they let Ledia have her way to get her out of their everyday lives.  I really wish they had left Ledia to her fate and taken Ahless back with them; they seemed to really love him as opposed to Ledia who just seems to grunt at him and scream obscenities in front of him (you know that's a regular occurance and that she's always mad at someone).

I agree. I think Leida has done a lot of dumb things and ruined her chances of having any kind of life in their social circle at home- her family wanted her GONE. They flew here to make sure Eric wasn’t running a human trafficking ring or something on behalf of their grandson, and they went home, sick of Leida’s BS. They may have been willing to keep Aless but I doubt Leida would let him stay. Especially because of how it “looks” to 90 day viewers, not so much her attachment to him. 

Edited December 24, 2018 by Scarlett45
Leida- NOT Larissa

[lucy711]

Jay really disappointed me.  Even though he was twenty and immature, I had hopes that he was willing to make it work with Ashley.  He's awful.  And Ashley is too old to have been so naive about the whole situation.

[Meowwww]

I still can’t with the fact that someone named their kids Kolini and Kalani.