Season 6 Discussion

[politichick]

16 hours ago, Stacee said:

I'm trying to think who I like so far and right now its no one.

The Jamaican guy is way too young and into himself. Ashley must really hate herself to actually be hooking up with this kid. 

Eric is a fucking loser to bring up the fact that his soon to be doesnt want him to pay child support - in front of his child. And I'm curious what that conversation was like - specifically was Eric complaining...?

Leida the actress/singer/model/doctor/lawyer/scientist/astronaut is a spoiled brat. I dont know what the maids did but its clear they were not cleaning that house.  Not sure if she comes from money but Eric sure thinks so - it's all he seems to talk about.

Lessa is more interested in the idea of America and I dont think it will ever meet her movie watching expectations. But really, are we not going to talk about that hoochie outfit she got off the plane wearing? Like really girl? 

Colt is creepy to me. He gives me Norman Bates vibes. And those yellow teeth . Yuck.

I would have been embarrassed that the guy from Sahhhmwa was doing that dance in the airport. I dont blame Kahlina one bit for her reaction. But she's still pitiful to me. If she had not put her business out there for her family in the first place, there would be no need to backtrack. 

I hate that her dad feels his own race is not good enough for his daughters. I sure hope he does not instill that idea in Oliver. 

Fernada is pretty but I dont see the "hotness". And that panty thing was totally staged. I think Jonathon left them there. I think he gets off on seeing her get jealous. 

And there was no way that Steve and Olga only had sex ONE time. Nope. Not buying that. Not that it matters but its annoying to hear him say they only did it once. I call bullshit. 

Steve said they had lots of sex but she got knocked up the very first time the did it without protection. 

I felt secondhand embarrassment for Kalani when her guy was doing that dance but agree with others who say she should have been more gracious. That is a disaster waiting to happen because he is not suited for city life. She knew he was a country bumpkin (not that there's anything wrong with that) when she started messing around with him so needs to not be such a snob. She is pretentious as fuck and probably finds it challenging to attract men in LA.

Loved "Ashley must really hate herself to actually be hooking up with this kid." Something definitely isn't right there. Didn't Jay say his mother has been working and living in the U.S.? I wonder where.

That chick with Colt and Mother Colt also is in for a shock. Apologies to cat people, but I was appalled during the scene when the cat emerged from under the covers of his bed. He should have weaned them from that before the woman arrives. I doubt seriously she is going to go for cats in her bed. 

[AussieBabe]

2 minutes ago, LocalGovt said:

I was under the impression that Ansuelo was not present for the baby's birth, and that this was the first time he met him, face to face. Am I mistaken?

I think he's met him before. If I'm not mistaken, TLC tweeted in their BTS tweets that he used to walk the baby on the beach in Samoa and something about singing a song to him, too. What's not clear is when that was or how many times Kalani visited after his birth.

[gonecrackers]

I'm hoping Kalani's story line is mostly fabricated & they do well. Her face in the airport was funny but she only embarrassed herself with the stick up her butt. Her dad may be tough & protective IRL, which is fine, but at some point that has to get old. The baby is really cute.

[GuiltiestPleasures]

17 hours ago, Former Nun said:

I'll agree about a small level of stubbornness on the flowers, but what can he do about his car that has no air-conditioning--especially her first time in his car?   Here in Arizona, if ours breaks down or if someone moves from another area and has none, we all do what he suggested, "Roll down the window."  

It's less the fact that the AC is broken (which if he had explained in a calm way and said "I'm going to get it fixed" would have been fine), it's more the attitude he had when she complained about the AC. His "Well this is a desert".....Okay. Yes, you're in a desert. So your car SHOULD HAVE AC! She's not expecting something unreasonable and he just comes off as a jerk for acting like *she* was the spoiled one.

[funky-rat]

22 minutes ago, politichick said:

That chick with Colt and Mother Colt also is in for a shock. Apologies to cat people, but I was appalled during the scene when the cat emerged from under the covers of his bed. He should have weaned them from that before the woman arrives. I doubt seriously she is going to go for cats in her bed. 

Our cats sleep with us.  All of our cats have going back forever.  No different than dogs sleeping with people.  Now if she's not an animal person in general, then she's SOL.

[poeticlicensed]

3 minutes ago, funky-rat said:

Our cats sleep with us.  All of our cats have going back forever.  No different than dogs sleeping with people.  Now if she's not an animal person in general, then she's SOL.

I have less of a problem with the cat in the bed than walking around on the table where people eat. And I love cats. I also hate when people dress cats up. I know someone who dresses her cat up all the time, takes pics and puts them on IG. Today, being Halloween, I have seen a parade of cat costume pics. The cat looks miserable. 

Edited October 31, 2018 by poeticlicensed

[StatisticalOutlier]

13 hours ago, Spike said:

How exactly do you dent the hood of a car?  Hit a pedestrian and it lands on top?

I have a crappy TV and didn't notice the dent in the hood.  And when y'all were mocking it, I kept quiet because our car has one.  It just showed up one day, but I think a big pickup truck with a bike rack on the back may have backed into it, and cleared the frontmost part of the hood but hit it in the middle, where it's more bulbous. 

So just here to REPRESENT people with old cars with dents on the hood.  And swear that's where the similarities end.

 

43 minutes ago, Raja said:

The Cartwright's on the Ponderosa and the Cannon's of The High Chaparral survived the heat.;)

I never watched High Chaparral, but the Ponderosa was in the Sierra Nevada, I believe.  Lots of pine trees.

What I'm puzzled about is why anyone would ever have their windows up in Las Vegas heat in the first place if there's no a/c.  Nobody would have to tell ME to roll my window down. 

[Nancybeth]

7 minutes ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

I never watched High Chaparral, but the Ponderosa was in the Sierra Nevada, I believe.  Lots of pine trees.

 

Yup, it was near the northeastern shore of Lake Tahoe, on the Nevada side.   I was just in the area where it was filmed a few months ago for work.  

[Raja]

10 minutes ago, Nancybeth said:

Yup, it was near the northeastern shore of Lake Tahoe, on the Nevada side.   I was just in the area where it was filmed a few months ago for work.  

When it was episode  was set at home but the boys made many trips to the desert.

[col1234]

1 hour ago, poeticlicensed said:

Colt and Mama Colt are reality TV gold. From the dressing up cats, to the unhealthy attachment, to a slot machine in the kitchen, it is almost surreal. The car doesn't look that old, but it looks beat. I'm guessing that it has AC, but the AC is broken. I don't think it's lack of money, I think that Colt is one of those guys who doesn't see the need to spend money on things that are not absolute necessities. The car runs, work isn't that far away, why spend $$$ to fix it. He probably thinks nice clothes and flowers are a waste of money. Why go out to eat when you can make a meal at home? Good luck Larissa, he won't be changing anytime soon. 

Leida and Eric are the big mystery. There is all kind of Reddit sleuthing about those two. I'm not speculating at this point. I don't understand  the drive to NY instead of having them fly into Chicago or Detroit. It may be a few dollars more, but he has to pay for gas and housing. makes no sense. 

The couple on the OC are a snore to me. 

Ashley and I forgot his name from Jamaica are Devar and Melanie  2.0

NC frat boy should be in jail instead of on a TV show. Talk about robbing the cradle. 

Homeless skater and his pg Russian GF will not end well. 

 

Yeah, I dont understand the NYC thing either. When i flew back from Jakarta or when relatives come here to visit, Ohare usually is the airport of entry - and then take connecting flight to my midwest city. Even if the point of entry is JFK or others, still they take connecting flight. I wont drive that far. 

Maybe they have other relatives to visit on the East Coast? 

Also, from my experience, when my family (or any of my indonesian friends' family) visit, usually it's a long visit - min 2 weeks. So I would guess Leida's family will be in the US for awhile and will eventually see his dig in Wisconsin. 

Edited October 31, 2018 by col1234
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[Mothra]

On 10/29/2018 at 12:36 PM, CoachWristletJen said:

Why won't her rich family spring for a fancy NYC hotel room? First of all because by U.S. standards, they're not that rich. They know that their money won't go nearly as far over here. Second, they want to see what Eric's made of, what the dashing groom can actually provide.  He probably is kind of cheap, but he also doesn't have very much as is indicated by his apartment. I'm sure his wife got the house and he feels stripped by the divorce.

This is a really good point.  In Indonesia, it is customary for middle-class households to have live-in help:

(https://www.expatindo.org/employing-household-staff-in-indonesia-a-beginners-guide/)

Many expats come from countries where only the wealthy employ household staff. It can be hard to adjust to a place where even middle-class people have maids, cooks, drivers, nannies,  and guards. As a newcomer to Indonesia, you may feel uneasy about the loss of privacy. Or you may have the sense that it’s immoral to pay people to clean up after you. Conversely, it may thrill you to realize you never have to clean the floor while you live in Indonesia.

No one can tell you how to feel or how many household staff you should hire. But keep in mind that there is no need to feel guilty as long as you treat your employees with respect and provide them with decent wages and working conditions. Chances are, you aren’t just benefiting the individuals who work for you. You are also helping their family members who rely on the income from the job you are providing.

[Mothra]

On 10/29/2018 at 1:24 PM, JenE4 said:

Re the comments above on whether Colt is on the spectrum, as a mother of a 19-year-old son with Asperger’s, please put my vote down for absolutely Asperger’s. It’s not mutually exclusive to say he’s not on the spectrum because he loves his mother and cats. My son loves his snake—and, well, he tolerates me. But he actually can be a very loving, kind and appreciative and helpful person. Likewise, Colt sees taking care of someone—like his mom takes care of him and he takes care of his cats, means love. Colt is just NOT going to get that flowers would mean a lot to Larissa and so he should buy the flowers because it’s important TO HER. The “logical” rationale is that the flowers are going to die, and even if they last 3 days, that’s $7 per day and why not spend that money on something you need, like parking? And yes, it’s hot because it’s a desert. In his mind, he’s not being rude, he’s just giving the “right” responses. For neurotypical people, we know to try to understand where the other person is coming from and read the subtext and alter our responses accordingly. The best Colt can do is offer up an “It’s no Christ the Redeemer” but this is what we got. You can bet that Colt knows the “proper” way to stack luggage, and if it’s not the same method as Leida’s idea of “proper,” well, it’s a good thing they’re not matched up. This is also probably why Colt and mom needed to discuss seating arrangements because Colt has HIS seat and mom has hers and god forbid someone ever sat in the wrong place! If things have to change, we need to plan this all out in advance. It also rings true with the slot machine and other equipment in pieces or being worked on are strewn about. Likewise, my son won’t pass up some broken electronics someone is getting rid of that he intends to fix or use for parts for some other project. I have no doubt Colt snatched up that old slot machine and told mom can you believe some casino was getting rid of a perfectly good slot machine?!? Why waste your money at a casino when you can play all you want at home with the same quarter and not lose it! (And just wait, I have no doubt Larissa will want to go to a casino to gamble and Colt will tell her precisely that. No spoilers—it’s just the “logical” response!)

Thank you for posting this, and for a couple of reasons.  I have been uncomfortable here and elsewhere when people who have no experience with autism label someone as being "on the spectrum" and I worried that it was offensive to people who have autism and those who care about them.  I'm glad you're able to give us this really interesting information.

Second, about the flowers:  every damn one of the American men shows up at the airport with flowers.  It's expected and kind of insulting when it doesn't happen--so why didn't someone explain to Colt that he ought to bring flowers for Larissa?  He could even have bought the $7.95 special at the gas station!  But I can see now--this was just not within his realm of reference.  Spending any amount of money on something meaningless in terms of its practical use sounds crazy to him.

And I really loved his joke about the Christ of the Andes.  I hope we see more of his sense of humor.

You've made this guy a whole lot more interesting to me.

[CoachWristletJen]

13 minutes ago, Mothra said:

This is a really good point.  In Indonesia, it is customary for middle-class households to have live-in help:

(https://www.expatindo.org/employing-household-staff-in-indonesia-a-beginners-guide/)

Many expats come from countries where only the wealthy employ household staff. It can be hard to adjust to a place where even middle-class people have maids, cooks, drivers, nannies,  and guards. As a newcomer to Indonesia, you may feel uneasy about the loss of privacy. Or you may have the sense that it’s immoral to pay people to clean up after you. Conversely, it may thrill you to realize you never have to clean the floor while you live in Indonesia.

No one can tell you how to feel or how many household staff you should hire. But keep in mind that there is no need to feel guilty as long as you treat your employees with respect and provide them with decent wages and working conditions. Chances are, you aren’t just benefiting the individuals who work for you. You are also helping their family members who rely on the income from the job you are providing.

Exactly. Expats can treat their staff with consideration and kindness. Also, they can pay them more than they would normally get, allowing them to provide for their own families even better. It makes for happiness all around as well as a chance to interact with new people and learn about their culture.

[Mothra]

On 10/29/2018 at 1:29 PM, Pepper Mostly said:

I once worked at a temp agency--one of the women on our register had an MD, a JD, and a PhD. She worked temp as a bookkeeper, because she was nutty as an Almond Joy.

Leida's inarticulate, keening wail when Eric wouldn't put the luggage in "proper" was, um, really something. No wonder she's never practiced medicine. Can you imagine your doctor letting one of those shrieks loose when you failed to take your medication properly or missed a test?

Furthermore, there's no way she's going to be able to get a license to practice in the US.  She has to pass  two or three years of medical school courses, things she's probably passed in Indonesia but now has to learn US style, but will Erik be able to support her for those years?  Not to mention the three or so more years of internship and residency.  Even though she may (or may not--this might be why she didn't practice in Indonesia) have fulfilled these requirements overseas, she will have to repeat them here.  I don't know how good her medical English is, either--another year?

I know about these requirements because I once had a cleaning lady who was an anesthesiologist in Ukraine, and I worked for a couple of years trying to help her through the labyrinth of getting licensed to practice here.  She gave up and got certification as some kind of medical assistant.  I also know a veterinarian from Colombia who has to work as a vet tech because her medical training doesn't automatically transfer.

[funky-rat]

5 minutes ago, Mothra said:

Furthermore, there's no way she's going to be able to get a license to practice in the US.  She has to pass  two or three years of medical school courses, things she's probably passed in Indonesia but now has to learn US style, but will Erik be able to support her for those years?  Not to mention the three or so more years of internship and residency.  Even though she may (or may not--this might be why she didn't practice in Indonesia) have fulfilled these requirements overseas, she will have to repeat them here.  I don't know how good her medical English is, either--another year?

I know about these requirements because I once had a cleaning lady who was an anesthesiologist in Ukraine, and I worked for a couple of years trying to help her through the labyrinth of getting licensed to practice here.  She gave up and got certification as some kind of medical assistant.  I also know a veterinarian from Colombia who has to work as a vet tech because her medical training doesn't automatically transfer.

If she can pass the credentialing for Registered Nurse, she may be able to more easily become a Nurse Practitioner.  Or perhaps Physician Assistant.

[Thisgirllovespasta]

20 hours ago, ChiCricket said:

Painful scratches up and down your arms? (That's what would happen if I tried to put a dress on my cat.)

LOL

 

To be honest... when I was little we used to dress our cat but it would render it powerless and it's equilibrium would be off so it would just lay their like a slug.

[Raja]

18 minutes ago, funky-rat said:

If she can pass the credentialing for Registered Nurse, she may be able to more easily become a Nurse Practitioner.  Or perhaps Physician Assistant.

Back in the nursing shortage and Filipino  schools pumping out workers there were many doctors coming to America to be nurses.

[magemaud]

51 minutes ago, col1234 said:

Yeah, I dont understand the NYC thing either. When i flew back from Jakarta or when relatives come here to visit, Ohare usually is the airport of entry - and then take connecting flight to my midwest city.

Especially since going to JFK from Indonesia REALLY overshoots Wisconsin and I can't imagine there weren't cheaper and more direct flight options. 

[Lily247]

2 hours ago, politichick said:

Steve said they had lots of sex but she got knocked up the very first time the did it without protection. 

I felt secondhand embarrassment for Kalani when her guy was doing that dance but agree with others who say she should have been more gracious. That is a disaster waiting to happen because he is not suited for city life. She knew he was a country bumpkin (not that there's anything wrong with that) when she started messing around with him so needs to not be such a snob. She is pretentious as fuck and probably finds it challenging to attract men in L.A. 

I felt embarrassed for her, too. However, I did not choose a small-village, grew up in house without walls, Samoan islander as my fiance. She should have just rolled with it l. They seem so mismatched to me, because she seems like a materialistic young lady who likes to feel sophisticated (I saw her clothes, toiletries, air BNB she thinks she needs a 3-story mountain view rental) and he seems like a kind of slow, grew up un tye middle of nowhere, happy to sleep on a real floor dude. I mention slow because of his seeming lack of awareness (the airport dance) and the style of his speech,  I am aware English is not his native language but he speaks like he memorized the words. It would be better for him to just talk in his native language and have subtitles. 

[Granny58]

18 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Blondie & the Jamaican guy - she needed more time alone to work on herself.

You forgot the "babe."

Edited October 31, 2018 by Granny58

[JenE4]

1 hour ago, Mothra said:

Thank you for posting this, and for a couple of reasons.  I have been uncomfortable here and elsewhere when people who have no experience with autism label someone as being "on the spectrum" and I worried that it was offensive to people who have autism and those who care about them.  I'm glad you're able to give us this really interesting information.

Second, about the flowers:  every damn one of the American men shows up at the airport with flowers.  It's expected and kind of insulting when it doesn't happen--so why didn't someone explain to Colt that he ought to bring flowers for Larissa?  He could even have bought the $7.95 special at the gas station!  But I can see now--this was just not within his realm of reference.  Spending any amount of money on something meaningless in terms of its practical use sounds crazy to him.

And I really loved his joke about the Christ of the Andes.  I hope we see more of his sense of humor.

You've made this guy a whole lot more interesting to me.

 

2 hours ago, LocalGovt said:

I loved your answer. Thank you for the insight! My very best to you and your son!

Thank you both! My son is doing great! He’s in college studying electrical engineering and had a real job this past summer getting himself all around NYC to different job sites. He has really grown a LOT emotionally/mentally over the past year that he says he’s “cured,” and, frankly, if you met him now he’s probably right that most people wouldn’t think of him as on the spectrum. He’s MUCH better off than Colt, but I understand the black and white, practical thinking. 

[Granny58]

7 hours ago, cherenkov said:

More to the point, they would reject him because he's so strongly controlled by his mother

and dresses his cats.  Don't forget that. 

[Neurochick]

On 10/29/2018 at 7:19 PM, Rdh1314 said:

I seriously doubt that couple owned the house...I mean their 30 something batchelor buddy just bought a little ranch on 1/10 acre and doesn't have a bed yet, but his friends own a Mcmansion with a curving staircase and a dining room complete with plates and silverware to accomodate a dinner party of 12....

Like someone said before, it could be an inherited house, that's what I thought.

[Granny58]

55 minutes ago, Thisgirllovespasta said:

LOL

 

To be honest... when I was little we used to dress our cat but it would render it powerless and it's equilibrium would be off so it would just lay their like a slug.

HA HA HA

[sconstant]

2 hours ago, Mothra said:

 

Second, about the flowers:  every damn one of the American men shows up at the airport with flowers.  It's expected and kind of insulting when it doesn't happen--so why didn't someone explain to Colt that he ought to bring flowers for Larissa?  He could even have bought the $7.95 special at the gas station!  But I can see now--this was just not within his realm of reference.  

Not sure she would have been happy with that (or that producers wouldn’t have urged her to be unhappy with it.)

[gonecrackers]

1 hour ago, Granny58 said:

20 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Blondie & the Jamaican guy - she needed more time alone to work on herself.

You forgot the "babe."

(hangs head)  Sorry babe, I have to work on myself...

[alegtostandon]

5 hours ago, Raja said:

The Cartwright's on the Ponderosa and the Cannon's of The High Chaparral survived the heat.;)

I have no idea where High Chaparral was suppose to be located but my sister lives in the area where the Cartwrights 'lived', on a rare occasion, it will get in the 90's, average in the summer is around 80's.  Winter is cold & snowy. But, we always wonder how people lived here without AC before central air.   Many had swamp coolers, water running thru a filter with a fan blowing on I it, before that, I've read people would hang wet sheets for the air to blue on.  I will say this, after living in the Phoenix area for many years, it's not the 'dry' heat it use to be due to all of the buildings, concrete and pools. I'm sure Vegas is the same way.

5 hours ago, iwasish said:

I will have to defer to you on this one. My post was based on family and friends who lived in Hawaii and Florida, and how they acclimated to the weather.  

My doxies are going to a parade today dressed as a roll of tin foil and a log!!

We came here from Chicago. We had to acclimate to the weather. It was more like the first winter we were here, we wore light jackets when it got down to the 50's in the winter.. The following year, we were bundling up with gloves and scarves! My experience with  Florida and Hawaii (we just got back from Kauai) is getting use to the humidity.

Wish I could see your little doxies! Have fun!

Edited October 31, 2018 by alegtostandon

[guilfoyleatpp]

Northern Nevada and the Sierra Nevadas have a very different climate than Las Vegas, which is way south and closer to Arizona (in proximity and climate).

Reno, for example, high desert. It does get warm during the summer, but it also snows. Close to lots of ski resorts, not too far from Tahoe.

The Ponderosa Ranch in Bonanza was set near Lake Tahoe. In the show. 

 

I would assume that Larissa wouldn't really know about Bonanza unless it's one of those shows that's been syndicated overseas. Her vision of Las Vegas would probably be more of the Beverly Hills/Melrose Place/Oceans 11-13 type of thing. Vegas during the day is so ho hum. Mr. Guilfoyle described it as "a hangover." Wait until she sees it at night with the tourists and the drunken frat boys. In for a disappointment. 

[RichiesOlderBro]

6 hours ago, col1234 said:

Yeah, I dont understand the NYC thing either. When i flew back from Jakarta or when relatives come here to visit, Ohare usually is the airport of entry - and then take connecting flight to my midwest city. Even if the point of entry is JFK or others, still they take connecting flight. I wont drive that far. 

Maybe they have other relatives to visit on the East Coast? 

I wonder if maybe the parents don’t own an apartment in NYC?  Something just doesn’t add up.  

[sainte-chapelle]

Ok this is mean but Larissa looks like she is going to age HARD. In the talking heads it looked like all that makeup was hiding a bit of haggard. 

[sainte-chapelle]

9 hours ago, politichick said:

Steve said they had lots of sex but she got knocked up the very first time the did it without protection. 

I felt secondhand embarrassment for Kalani when her guy was doing that dance but agree with others who say she should have been more gracious. That is a disaster waiting to happen because he is not suited for city life. She knew he was a country bumpkin (not that there's anything wrong with that) when she started messing around with him so needs to not be such a snob. She is pretentious as fuck and probably finds it challenging to attract men in LA.

Loved "Ashley must really hate herself to actually be hooking up with this kid." Something definitely isn't right there. Didn't Jay say his mother has been working and living in the U.S.? I wonder where.

That chick with Colt and Mother Colt also is in for a shock. Apologies to cat people, but I was appalled during the scene when the cat emerged from under the covers of his bed. He should have weaned them from that before the woman arrives. I doubt seriously she is going to go for cats in her bed. 

I love my cat but the bed is off limits. We close the door when we sleep and she has her own bed, but she prefers the couch.

[HappyDancex2]

On 10/30/2018 at 3:02 PM, Rdh1314 said:

I think this whole topic needs to be taken over to the QVC thread.  Jane and David are experts in everything Disney and Food. They will know what's in Princess Toast.

You rang?

[Former Nun]

11 hours ago, GuiltiestPleasures said:

It's less the fact that the AC is broken

Is it broken...or simply a car that has no air-conditioning?

[Former Nun]

9 hours ago, Lily247 said:

I mention slow because of his seeming lack of awareness (the airport dance) and the style of his speech,

It will take a lot to convince me that he's "slow," and I'd bet there was A LOT of encouragement by his traveling producers on the long flight from Samwa*.  They had probably seen his dance in his native country and suggested what to wear on the plane...and WHEN to begin performing.   His bewilderment at how large and fast everything is makes sense to me.

*Do you suppose that's how Kalani's father pronouces Samoa?

[Mothra]

19 hours ago, funky-rat said:

If she can pass the credentialing for Registered Nurse, she may be able to more easily become a Nurse Practitioner.  Or perhaps Physician Assistant.

But she wants "to be a doctor in the United States!!!"

[AZChristian]

2 minutes ago, Mothra said:

But she wants "to be a doctor in the United States!!!"

So do I.  But I'm almost 72 and never went to medical school.  Or finished college.  And I'm probably more qualified than Leida.  At least I'm not delusional.

[Mothra]

21 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

So do I.  But I'm almost 72 and never went to medical school.  Or finished college.  And I'm probably more qualified than Leida.  At least I'm not delusional.

Ah, but isn't that exactly what a delusional person would say? :)

[Mothra]

On 10/29/2018 at 5:05 PM, EarlGreyTea said:

This show is a lesson in self-reflection for me. I really hate all the "well-meaning" friends of the American half of the couple always expressing doubts and how the new spouse has to "win" them over. I keep thinking to myself, don't these people realize how they come off as jealous meddlers? I especially hate the well-worn trope of the less attractive friend bagging on her friend's new fiance. It's not a good look. It also wouldn't kill any of them to show the fiance a good time by taking them out.

Please believe me, I'm not trying to pick a fight.

I felt exactly this way at the beginning of every season of this shit show.  As the weeks passed, I began to first of all understand why the friends and families continued to beat their heads against the wall of what was essentially none of their business.  I've come to believe that the f&f think the US fiance is under some sexual spell, and I'm tending to agree.  These people are not thinking straight.

They know nothing--nothing--about their fiances from other lands, unless the producers are keeping the viewers in the dark.  Erik's perception that his gf's family is rich--"successful" is the word he uses--is about as insightful as anything I've seen on the show.  What does Leida (?) do all day?  Does she work, or does she sit around and be supported by her parents?  Is her religion going to be a problem for him?  What do they talk about, when she's not demanding that he "put it in proper"--which, btw, is--wait for it, assume Michael Scott voice, "what she said"--and he's not giving her parenting advice?  Do they share any interests at all beyond sex?

By the end of every season so far, and with few exceptions, I find myself totally on the side of the nay-sayers.  These courtships reveal (again, with few exceptions) that the Americans are after hot Asian or South American or Russian sex, and the foreigners want to live in the US and are willing to fuck for the privilege.  Some of the people on both sides are charming and even seem lovable, but they are involved in a stupid, destructive, humiliating pas de deux, and shame on them and shame on us for watching.

In your position, though, as the unattached friend, I salute your restraint.  What you're proposing is the respectful, loving approach to dealing with a friend who's lost his/her mind, and you're abandoning the delicious delight of "I told you so."  You are a goddam selfless jewel of a friend.

If anyone knows a sure-fire way for me to quit this show, please PM ASAP.

On 10/29/2018 at 6:39 PM, usernameG said:

Totally paunchy and soft. Like if you were to touch him it would be all doughy. I doubt he would pay for a gym membership. 

During one of his calls to tell her he wasn't going to spring for another plane ticket for that very day, she archly suggested he use the extra time to go to the gym.

[Mothra]

On 10/29/2018 at 7:02 PM, Pepper Mostly said:

I think Asuelu's very sweet. And Khalani does not want to marry him. She has has major second thoughts. He was fine for a vacation hookup, but here in California? He's an embarrassment to her. She's going to passive aggressively find fault with everything he says and does. She'll shame him for his lack of worldliness and be mortified by him. She'll roll her eyes when he jokes around or takes joy in anything. ("Honey, you're just so loud!") She's already turned her family against him. She wants him gone. She knows that he wants to try and make a go of it with her and be a father to their son, so she has to hope that the collective charm and warmth of her family (ha!), along with her constant criticism and corrections will drive him away. Then she can be a heroic single mother and talk smack about her horrible ex. 

I agree.  And I kept thinking during their time on screen what would happen if she moved with him back to Samoa?

BTW I checked the pronunciation of that place, and we're--and they're--all wrong.  It isn't sam-OH-uh, as I've always said it, or SAM-wah, but SAM-oh-ah, just an accent shift from the second to the first syllable.

But if they were living in Samoa, she'd be a beauty--not that she isn't beautiful, period, but maybe not California-beautiful--and he would be able to support his family just fine.  If *she* were the one who had to adapt.  I'm an old lady, so changing my culture at this point would be pretty rough, but for a 30-year-old woman, with a Samoan baby, I would think living in Samoa might be at least a little appealing.  What a power shift that would be for Asueolu!

[Spike]

24 minutes ago, Mothra said:

Please believe me, I'm not trying to pick a fight.

I felt exactly this way at the beginning of every season of this shit show.  As the weeks passed, I began to first of all understand why the friends and families continued to beat their heads against the wall of what was essentially none of their business.  I've come to believe that the f&f think the US fiance is under some sexual spell, and I'm tending to agree.  These people are not thinking straight.

They know nothing--nothing--about their fiances from other lands, unless the producers are keeping the viewers in the dark.  Erik's perception that his gf's family is rich--"successful" is the word he uses--is about as insightful as anything I've seen on the show.  What does Leida (?) do all day?  Does she work, or does she sit around and be supported by her parents?  Is her religion going to be a problem for him?  What do they talk about, when she's not demanding that he "put it in proper"--which, btw, is--wait for it, assume Michael Scott voice, "what she said"--and he's not giving her parenting advice?  Do they share any interests at all beyond sex?

By the end of every season so far, and with few exceptions, I find myself totally on the side of the nay-sayers.  These courtships reveal (again, with few exceptions) that the Americans are after hot Asian or South American or Russian sex, and the foreigners want to live in the US and are willing to fuck for the privilege.  Some of the people on both sides are charming and even seem lovable, but they are involved in a stupid, destructive, humiliating pas de deux, and shame on them and shame on us for watching.

In your position, though, as the unattached friend, I salute your restraint.  What you're proposing is the respectful, loving approach to dealing with a friend who's lost his/her mind, and you're abandoning the delicious delight of "I told you so."  You are a goddam selfless jewel of a friend.

If anyone knows a sure-fire way for me to quit this show, please PM ASAP.

During one of his calls to tell her he wasn't going to spring for another plane ticket for that very day, she archly suggested he use the extra time to go to the gym.

You would think a woman with all of Leida’s accomplishments would know it’s put it in properly.

[Lesia]

21 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

So just here to REPRESENT people with old cars with dents on the hood.

Tree branch fell on my hood, dented it.  Unfortunately, it was a Town tree, so i can't sue.

figures...

[AmyBre]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

So do I.  But I'm almost 72 and never went to medical school. 

I'm very impressed by the range of age, education, income levels and ethnic groups on this forum.  I guess it's true that in the end, in our most private moments, we are all the same and for the most part want the same things.

As messed up and clueless as most of the participants of this show may be, I always find something to reflect on, for myself or someone close to me.

Other shows deal with interpersonal relationships, but none have the pressure cooker 90 day threshold thing.   None have the legal and money related issues.   Notice how there's no discussion of real issues between the couples.  On some of the issues, I might be slightly smarter only because I have made the same mistake before.   Marriage and having children are seen by many as the ultimate commitment and to watch people take the plunge "just like that".   Jesus please, take the wheel!!!

What makes 90 day so addictive?  Why do smart people with their stuff together keep coming back to it?   I thought it was entertainment but entertainment can never hold your attention for so long.    Thoughts?

[Owwwww ma leg]

To begin with it was because in 98 I also did the K1 visa, and I can relate to the homesickness and cultural hiccups of the first few seasons. I like to feel that I have a good frame of reference. For I instance, when I got off the plane that final time all I wanted to  do was hold my fiancé. However 20 years and 2 kiddos later I would like flowers too. As 90df and it’s offshoots went on it became a train wreck that I couldn’t look away from. Here I am today, watching every Sunday and sometimes if I can keep up I live chat too.

[BradandJanet]

On 10/31/2018 at 10:57 AM, AmyBre said:

What I couldn't understand is why didn't Eric and Leida have TLC/Sharp pay for a hotel or an AirBnB in New York City.  Why put them through such a long flight and then 3 hours of driving?  Why did Eric drive all those hours into NYC?    If Leida is such as cosmopolitan woman of the world, why didn't she ask to be housed in New York?

Tired people are crankier. Makes for better TV. 

[Raja]

3 hours ago, Owwwww ma leg said:

To begin with it was because in 98 I also did the K1 visa, and I can relate to the homesickness and cultural hiccups of the first few seasons. I like to feel that I have a good frame of reference. For I instance, when I got off the plane that final time all I wanted to  do was hold my fiancé. However 20 years and 2 kiddos later I would like flowers too. As 90df and it’s offshoots went on it became a train wreck that I couldn’t look away from. Here I am today, watching every Sunday and sometimes if I can keep up I live chat too.

I think that since our time the ability to show folks back home what's going on changed everything. Even without TLC'S camera the live chat  camera and getting the proper flowers or doing the traditional dance is sent back home to the friends and family left behind 

[eatsleep]

On 10/31/2018 at 1:31 PM, LocalGovt said:

I was under the impression that Ansuelo was not present for the baby's birth, and that this was the first time he met him, face to face. Am I mistaken?

Kelani took Oliver to Samoa when he was 5 months old. 

 

23 hours ago, AmyBre said:

What makes 90 day so addictive?  Why do smart people with their stuff together keep coming back to it?   I thought it was entertainment but entertainment can never hold your attention for so long.    Thoughts?

I actually like getting little glimpses into the other cultures and seeing footage of the other countries, the wedding customs/attire and the American and foreign homes. Mostly I'm here for the food. The drama and reality tv trainwreck aspect can be entertaining in small doses but I often watch *with* my boyfriend or my kids and yeah, I do feel a tad embarrassed by it.

Edited November 2, 2018 by eatsleep

[Snewtsie]

On 10/29/2018 at 4:02 PM, Pepper Mostly said:

I think Asuelu's very sweet. And Khalani does not want to marry him. She has has major second thoughts. He was fine for a vacation hookup, but here in California? He's an embarrassment to her. She's going to passive aggressively find fault with everything he says and does. She'll shame him for his lack of worldliness and be mortified by him. She'll roll her eyes when he jokes around or takes joy in anything. ("Honey, you're just so loud!") She's already turned her family against him. She wants him gone. She knows that he wants to try and make a go of it with her and be a father to their son, so she has to hope that the collective charm and warmth of her family (ha!), along with her constant criticism and corrections will drive him away. Then she can be a heroic single mother and talk smack about her horrible ex. 

I think you are spot on- and I feel really bad for Asuelu.  I originally liked Khalini because she seems pretty normal, but upon watching more it's apparent she's really immature for a 30 year old.  He is in a no win situation.

[Spike]

16 minutes ago, eatsleep said:

Kelani took Oliver to Samoa when he was 5 months old. 

 

I actually like getting little glimpses into the other cultures and seeing footage of the other countries, the wedding customs/attire and the American and foreign homes. Mostly I'm here for the food. The drama and reality tv trainwreck aspect can be entertaining in small doses but I often watch my boyfriend or my kids and yeah, I do feel a tad embarrassed by it.

Watch with?

[PinkFlamingo]

On October 30, 2018 at 4:04 PM, Granny58 said:

The first time I "watched" this I was also reading comments so I didn't really pay attention.  I'm rewatching.  My gosh, Asuelu is just a sweetheart!  And I hope that Steve and Olga do well.  And Larissa hates Colt.  I did realize, though, that I've had cats for decades and never thought to dress them in clothes.  What have I been missing!!!

Most cats hate wearing clothes, hats, harnesses, etc. I would suggest trying out a simple hat to begin with and if they don't flatten to the floor like a pancake or twirl around like crazy go ahead and try the whole outfit.  So I've heard at least....

[Spike]

20 minutes ago, PinkFlamingo said:

Most cats hate wearing clothes, hats, harnesses, etc. I would suggest trying out a simple hat to begin with and if they don't flatten to the floor like a pancake or twirl around like crazy go ahead and try the whole outfit.  So I've heard at least....

I know people can spend their money however they see fit but I think if you have money to blow on cat clothes there are thousands of charities that could make better use of it.