Finals, Training Camp and Social Media

[TexasBorn]

15 minutes ago, Thebiglebowski said:

Sometimes I cringe when I read my posts and all the other ppsts because we are talking about real, live, breathing, thinking, feeling, young women....and the world is already against women as it is. Do I personally think VK was ready to be a DCC-No. Could she ever be-Yes. She is not fat per real world standards. Was her body ready for DCC- yes during auditions, no during camp. I dont think VK was ever shy or meek or quiet. It is not a bad thing to be- Go Big or Go Home, you just need to develop the maturity to know the best and appropriate times to use your boldness. 

My best guess is that VK forgot the entire process was a job interview. I feel like she assumed the interview ended with the invitation to training camp. If she really did grow up with Auntie Kelly, it can be hard to abruptly transition away from that relationship, to that of a Boss/Employee dynamic.

 

I wish the best to all the young women just trying to find their place and figure out how to make sense of the world

I politely disagree. Being young and naive is not an excuse. Especially when we have had several great DCCs straight out out high school. Also, "forgetting that the entire process was a job interview" is also not an excuse. There are 12 seasons of MTT to prepare candidates for TCC.

Not many young people have an opportunity handed to them on a silver platter by an aunt. VK f'ed that up all by herself.

Finally, "transition away from a relationship" makes VK sound like a toddler.

[go4luca]

Man, I have to say I am still a bit weirded out with how Tara looked in the office visit.  Something was definitely off.  Bloated, defeated and something else I can't quite pinpoint.  I always liked that she wasn't all pageant glam but instead more girl next door approachable.  I hope what ever it was, that she's now in a healthier place in her life. 

Edited October 12, 2018 by go4luca

[PBSLover]

10 hours ago, UnicornKicks said:

but she's a GROWN WOMAN now. 

Yeah, sure.

My opinion about Kelli and not cutting down the squad? I think she really wanted all these girls on the team. She waited to see if any of them shot themselves in the foot in order to cut them. Then no one really did (in her eyes) so she had make the decision herself. I honestly think she would have taken the 40 we saw last night, even VK, problems and all, if she could have. 

9 hours ago, M1977G said:

my sense was that he wanted to build her up and push her to call on her confidence because he saw tremendous talent in her.

I thought the same. I think he really liked her and wanted to know he saw something in her.

[KTUCKER20]

That number looked more like a "Keke Do You Love Me" than a "What a Girl Wants" dance. They were singing it so it must have been. Marty was easy on the eyes.

[pizzaislife]

36 minutes ago, go4luca said:

Man, I have to say I am still a bit weirded out with how Tara looked in the office visit.  Something was definitely off.  Bloated, defeated and something else I can't quite pinpoint.  I always liked that she wasn't all pageant glam but instead more girl next door approachable.  I hope what ever it was, that she's now in a healthier place in her life. 

I thought she had a weird smile plaster on her face at all times. It seemed super off, didn’t seem appropriate, and she was either on something or disrespecting the process to be grinning the whole time.

 

and by on something, I don’t mean bad stuff. Could be cold medicine or something like that

[Holly85]

Lacy got the cover of the star magazine 

[pizzaislife]

Also, deleted scene on Facebook. It’s fabulous. Poor VK in her Pepto bismal  dress

[CaseyRe]

1 hour ago, Thebiglebowski said:

Sometimes I cringe when I read my posts and all the other ppsts because we are talking about real, live, breathing, thinking, feeling, young women....and the world is already against women as it is. Do I personally think VK was ready to be a DCC-No. Could she ever be-Yes. She is not fat per real world standards. Was her body ready for DCC- yes during auditions, no during camp. I dont think VK was ever shy or meek or quiet. It is not a bad thing to be- Go Big or Go Home, you just need to develop the maturity to know the best and appropriate times to use your boldness. 

My best guess is that VK forgot the entire process was a job interview. I feel like she assumed the interview ended with the invitation to training camp. If she really did grow up with Auntie Kelly, it can be hard to abruptly transition away from that relationship, to that of a Boss/Employee dynamic.

 

I wish the best to all the young women just trying to find their place and figure out how to make sense of the world

Totally don't disagree that shes by no means fat or even 'large' in real world, but in DCC several judges noted her as being heavy during auditions and kelli also said that to her so she was already DCC 'large' at auditions so even if her weight had remained stable, there likely would have been 'subtle' encouragement to lose some anyway.

[meb1130]

7 minutes ago, pizzaislife said:

Also, deleted scene on Facebook. It’s fabulous. Poor VK in her Pepto bismal  dress

[Kayce]

Yes!! Lacey got the Star cover!

[Slate]

Can't wait to see the whole magazine! So happy for Lacey!

[CaseyRe]

21 minutes ago, meb1130 said:

i dont actually mind the dress. its a style I'd wear happily, if not colour (and its a bit hyperbolic that it's a prom dress, pplease what 18 year old would wear that to prom??).  I know its a youthful, summer colour, but it's far too pink(or in the bastardised words of the great M'Lynn 'that girl looks like she was hosed down in pepto bismol), but it is very DCC-esque in my mind. if it'd been blue, I doubt they'd have had much issue with it

8 minutes ago, Kayce said:

Yes!! Lacey got the Star cover!

worlds most uncomfortable pose - you've really gotta contort to get your ass and back to get that perfect angle. I think any beauty I used to see in the swimsuit calendar has been smooshed for me after hearing the leacherous photographer. 

Edited October 13, 2018 by CaseyRe

[jlc]

4 minutes ago, CaseyRe said:

i dont actually mind the dress. its a style I'd wear happily, if not colour.  I know its a youthful, summer colour, but it's far too pink(or in the bastardised words of the great M'Lynn 'that girl looks like she was hosed down in pepto bismol), but it is very DCC-esque in my mind

I can't believe Kelli let someone say something disparaging about Ictoria, but then again, it was a deleted scene!.?????

[UnicornKicks]

Kelli needs a better poker face. I need to ask if every single damn skippy one of the guests, like this etiquette woman, just called out VK bc she's a mess or if they were guided to that direction. Bc THE WHOLE FAM DAMILY OF GUESTS finds something wrong and knows she's not ready. 

[PBSLover]

I thought they did away with the printed version of the Star? I used to subscribe but got a notice it was going online only as of the end of the 2016 season.

[Tinydancerxo28]

Cameos: I would have loved to see more rookies and vets. VK may have great hair and legs but her midsection is definitely not DCC standard.

I am glad we got to see the group leaders give feedback about the rookies. I was also surprised that Lacey had gone back and forth on Hannah. I think Malena is a great spoken ambassador but the memory isn’t there yet. I am kind of surprised Lily gets cut given how many stickers she received. 

I actually really liked Marty and his choreography. Out of Maddie, Kashara and Cianna, my eyes were drawn to Cianna. She looked very clean performing the choreography. I don’t think it was uncalled for him to call out Bridget. I wish K and J listened to their guest choreographers more often when it comes to cuts.

I really think VK should have gone home this episode if not sooner. IMO, she tries to be bold but looks spastic. I doubt any other rookie could have a similar weight issue and ambassador issue and still be here. I hope Kristin comes back. Her comment during etiquette training won me over.

[Loves2Dance]

7 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

Lily doesn’t have great facials when she dances and she didn’t look very photogenic in the cameos.  My bet it came down to Brennan, Malena and Lily (after VK and Tara were already gone) and they knew they had to pick one and went w/ Brennan cause the girls like her personality and felt bad cause it was her third time in camp.

I don't think Brennan was on the bubble. She's improved a ton from past years, she's getting noticed for the right reasons and she's quietly sliding under the radar. 

6 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

Kelli was literally asking those girls to pick between Victoria and Lilly - they all knew Victoria was strongly being considered for being cut.  I can’t see why any of them wouldn’t have just gave their honest opinion on her.  They have no reason to lie.  It’s not like they had to pick someone to cut out of all the TC - Kelli narrowed it down to a specific few for feedback.

Is Kashara VK’s GL?  Was Lily also in her group?  Perhaps that’s why she was speaking on those specific two girls?

Whats got to be hard re: that scene is now Ashlee knows Lacey wanted her cut ;)...that’s got to be awkward.  

Yes, they are both group 2. Kelli gave them enough stickers for their group minus one. Kashara actively picked Lily over Victoria, but I think her full length explanation is because of CMT. 

Edited October 13, 2018 by Loves2Dance

[MTTFan]

7 hours ago, CPA1967 said:

This is what I do not understand. All the stickers for Lily?  What in the world could she have done to be cut at this late hour?  She even had a yes from Kitty. 

Pulling at your hair and being so dramatic about 7 more cuts is an 18 year old who was told she was on the team and doing this for camera time. She never felt like she was one of the 7..ever. 

Caption: Is it obvious that I am giving the eye to the camera while I am giving this over the top reaction?

[Loves2Dance]

5 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Doesn't this all make you wonder how much time Kelli really spent with VK while she was growing up?  Wouldn't she have noticed this?

No. Kelli has never had to see Victoria in a professional environment. This is why you don't mix friends/family with business. It's messy and often leads to hurt feelings and broke relationships. 

[MTTFan]

10 hours ago, TexasBorn said:

I'm not surprised. Kitty is useless. 

 

You would think that she could only use one sticker and was afraid to use for Jayln at the expense of VK.  Fear of TK runs deep in that one.

Edited October 13, 2018 by MTTFan

[MrsEVH]

1 hour ago, go4luca said:

Man, I have to say I am still a bit weirded out with how Tara looked in the office visit.  Something was definitely off.  Bloated, defeated and something else I can't quite pinpoint.  I always liked that she wasn't all pageant glam but instead more girl next door approachable.  I hope what ever it was, that she's now in a healthier place in her life. 

I noticed some white streaks going down her face. Could it be from spray tan?

[mdcx]

1 hour ago, go4luca said:

Man, I have to say I am still a bit weirded out with how Tara looked in the office visit.  Something was definitely off.  Bloated, defeated and something else I can't quite pinpoint.  I always liked that she wasn't all pageant glam but instead more girl next door approachable.  I hope what ever it was, that she's now in a healthier place in her life. 

She seemed clinically depressed to me. I hope someone picks up on it and she gets help.

[FLAfan]

Let’s face it, when she fell out of 2 turns in tryouts she should have been let go.

[scorpio1031]

30 minutes ago, UnicornKicks said:

Kelli needs a better poker face. I need to ask if every single damn skippy one of the guests, like this etiquette woman, just called out VK bc she's a mess or if they were guided to that direction. Bc THE WHOLE FAM DAMILY OF GUESTS finds something wrong and knows she's not ready. 

She's shooting more side eye than Marshall

[MTTFan]

3 minutes ago, FLAfan said:

Let’s face it, when she fell out of 2 turns in tryouts she should have been let go.

Yes, but then they would have had to cut VK for the same reason and they couldn't (grabbing their pearls) do that. 

[Breslyn]

19 hours ago, KrCMommy said:

Okay! I had to make an account just to ask...

is it just me or are Kelly and Judy soft this year? Any other year people making mistakes on dances they learned at the start of TC it’d be no question...CUT. But this year they are keeping them, and times they do bring someone in to cut they end up giving them another chance?!

Malena makes a million mistakes every week! She is beautiful, has a wonderful smile, speaks well, but the memory is not getting better and it’s too late to still be making these mistakes! The same reasons they gave for not wanting to cut Kristin (beautiful, good personality, good speaker, would be good at appearances) but cutting her (inconsistency) is the same for Malena as well!

Any other season they would have been cutting practically each week! I can’t remember them ever needing to make so many cuts still this late?

sorry if this stuff has already been mentioned! I just found this site last week and am so glad I did!! 

Welcome @KrCMommy!

19 hours ago, Lily80 said:

I want to know why Kelli has to keep it to 36 now. Someone said it was Charlotte’s decision. What—they can’t shell out a few more bucks for a couple of extra DCC? 

 The DCC admin budget must cover the salaries of the director, choreographer, asst. choreo, technical coach, trainer & support staff. There is a budget for uniforms & sundries, game day & sanctioned event transportation, practice & game day wages for the women. These are all fixed/known costs and are determined well in advance of the season, typically when budgets are set months or even a year in advance.

Remember, DCC is not necessarily a revenue-generating division of the club, at least not the way you think. Yes, there are appearance fees earned by the organization, but those go right back into their operating budget. 

The calendar sales are part of marketing revenue, just like other merchandise like t-shirts, mugs, etc. The cost of producing the calendar comes from in small part from the DCC budget and largely from marketing. 

Finally, there is the expense of SG. More costumes, more practices and, of course, more travel & accommodations, especially for their beloved USO tours. These tours are fantastic for optics, but they do not directly generate revenue. The costs are absorbed by the Cowboys org, but luckily for them can be partially written off like a donation.

The point in saying all this is that simply adding one, two or four extra gals to the lineup is an expense that must be justifiable on paper. Will they get more bookings, sell more calendars and generate more revenue with an extra body or two on the squad? Or, would those funds be better spent on an additional supporting staff member, more guest choreographers and other expenses that could improve the DCC beyond just one season?

Hope this makes sense; I got distracted writing it.

[CaseyRe]

12 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

I noticed some white streaks going down her face. Could it be from spray tan?

I'd assumed it was her foundation from crying/sweating

[Laurendcc]

1 hour ago, meb1130 said:

HOW EMBARRASSING!!!

[Thebiglebowski]

52 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

I noticed some white streaks going down her face. Could it be from spray tan?

I think those were tear tracks in her make up

[Thebiglebowski]

Last nights episode made me worry about Tara. Mental health is important and she hinted that her job and not being able to find a good balance was overwhelming. If she isnt sleeping well, that could cause a bloated face. Hypothyroid issues can cause that as well. But if you really watched Tara's body language and her eyes, she projected exhaustion, a deep sadness, and something along the lines of depression. I hope she will be ok and that someone will check in with her. It's hard when you feel like you've lost control, and you're just so damn tired. 

My family struggles with mental health, and the world still isnt accepting and understanding of people struggling with mental health issues. There is still a negative stigma. And some people dont ever realize that they have gone too far down the rabbitt hole because it is their new normal. 

[sleepyjean]

Icky/Icktoria? Are we really doing that now? Is that supposed to be irony - calling her a childish name because people think she's immature?

 

7 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Has this been done before?  Is this the first time on camera? 

I would be very surprised if this is the first year Kelli has asked her GLs for input. They may not have done it on camera before, but I'd bet money she asks them to weigh in almost every year.

 

2 hours ago, Holly85 said:

Lacy got the cover of the star magazine 

This is the same photo from the back of the big calendar. Given how many shots and how many suits they shot each girl in, it's surprising that they choose to (or have to?) repeat photos in the various media.

[CaseyRe]

4 minutes ago, sleepyjean said:

Icky/Icktoria? Are we really doing that now? Is that supposed to be irony - calling her a childish name because people think she's immature?

 

I would be very surprised if this is the first year Kelli has asked her GLs for input. They may not have done it on camera before, but I'd bet money she asks them to weigh in almost every year.

 

This is the same photo from the back of the big calendar. Given how many shots and how many suits they shot each girl in, it's surprising that they choose to (or have to?) repeat photos in the various media.

I guess they decided that was the best of the ones of her in that (hideous and cliche) custom bikini.  Not that it aactually shows any of the bikini top, ie where most of the work was put into the construction (sorry, but it was basically two metal coconut shells with stars on that looked like star shaped nipples) but i guess they figured ass sells

[SmpIsimon]

I'm glad Kashara made reference to VK running her mouth about people.

[DCCme]

25 minutes ago, CaseyRe said:

I guess they decided that was the best of the ones of her in that (hideous and cliche) custom bikini.  Not that it aactually shows any of the bikini top, ie where most of the work was put into the construction (sorry, but it was basically two metal coconut shells with stars on that looked like star shaped nipples) but i guess they figured ass sells

My theory on the metal coconut shell shots is that they reflect everything around them so there was no “clean” shot of them.  I mean, who wants to see creepy photographers guys reflection!

[DCCme]

I’m rewatching the season because it’s Friday night and I clearly need a life.  First, I’m genuinely perplexed as to why Sarah the former Laker girl didn’t make it into training camp.  She was good and positive comments all around...except from Charlotte. And I just became less perplexed. Next up, VK looks so much better at tryouts. Enough that I’m almost genuinely concerned. Oh, and If weatherman Scott gets fired as a judge, let’s riot in the streets. JK, I’m not leaving my couch. And let’s talk Kelli’s wardrobe.  To quote Judy “struggle bus”.  In the latest episode, she looks the very best.  Her clothes fit her and accentuates her in the right places.  Good job to the wardrobe person on this episode.

[Breslyn]

9 hours ago, CPA1967 said:

This is what I do not understand. All the stickers for Lily?  What in the world could she have done to be cut at this late hour?  She even had a yes from Kitty. 

Pulling at your hair and being so dramatic about 7 more cuts is an 18 year old who was told she was on the team and doing this for camera time. She never felt like she was one of the 7..ever. 

Your screenshots give me life!

[PrayDanceLove]

On 10/11/2018 at 11:04 PM, Loves2Dance said:

That is reassuring, because this episode made me hate him a little. 

Edited October 13, 2018 by PrayDanceLove
Nvrm

[MyFavShows]

4 hours ago, jlc said:

I always wondered if Danielle and Jasmine stayed best friends. I remember Danielle cried when Jasmine did not make it back to training camp her third or fourth season, but she didn't cry hard. ?

I thought Danielle seemed devastated when Jasmine didn’t make it back that year.  IIRC she was much more upset than Jasmine herself.  Maybe I’m remembering it wrong though - need to rewatch...

[KickPretty]

32 minutes ago, DCCme said:

 JK, I’m not leaving my couch. 

??? I think we should be BFFs!!  LMAO!

[PrayDanceLove]

5 hours ago, Thebiglebowski said:

Sometimes I cringe when I read my posts and all the other ppsts because we are talking about real, live, breathing, thinking, feeling, young women....and the world is already against women as it is. Do I personally think VK was ready to be a DCC-No. Could she ever be-Yes. She is not fat per real world standards. Was her body ready for DCC- yes during auditions, no during camp. I dont think VK was ever shy or meek or quiet. It is not a bad thing to be- Go Big or Go Home, you just need to develop the maturity to know the best and appropriate times to use your boldness. 

My best guess is that VK forgot the entire process was a job interview. I feel like she assumed the interview ended with the invitation to training camp. If she really did grow up with Auntie Kelly, it can be hard to abruptly transition away from that relationship, to that of a Boss/Employee dynamic.

 

I wish the best to all the young women just trying to find their place and figure out how to make sense of the world

So on point!! 

[DCCme]

In rewatching this season it just struck me how disconcerting it must have been for any TCC who has ever watched this show and went into camp knowing there’s a fairly regular cadence of cuts being made and instead they end up in this perpetual everyone gets to stay one more week extravaganza. 

[go4luca]

1 hour ago, DCCme said:

JK, I’m not leaving my couch.

Okay.  That was hysterical. 

[PixieDust]

1 hour ago, DCCme said:

I’m rewatching the season because it’s Friday night and I clearly need a life.  First, I’m genuinely perplexed as to why Sarah the former Laker girl didn’t make it into training camp.  She was good and positive comments all around...except from Charlotte. And I just became less perplexed. Next up, VK looks so much better at tryouts. Enough that I’m almost genuinely concerned. Oh, and If weatherman Scott gets fired as a judge, let’s riot in the streets. JK, I’m not leaving my couch. And let’s talk Kelli’s wardrobe.  To quote Judy “struggle bus”.  In the latest episode, she looks the very best.  Her clothes fit her and accentuates her in the right places.  Good job to the wardrobe person on this episode.

Can I just say I really like this post ?

Edited October 13, 2018 by PixieDust

[MyFavShows]

4 hours ago, Kayce said:

Yes!! Lacey got the Star cover!

Lacey looks so plastic and fake in that photo compared to what she looked like when she first made the squad - did she have a second nose job, and what is up w/ her lips?   She was spray tanned so dark at cameos she looked darker than Kahlyn, and she looks like she has like 3 sets of false lashes on her eyes.

I’m all for glam and makeup, but she barely resembles her previous self anymore.  I don’t think it’s a good image for the DCC that these beautiful girls feel they need to change themselves so much.  Lacey was beautiful like she was :(.

[Annalisa]

23 hours ago, Lily80 said:

I want to know why Kelli has to keep it to 36 now. Someone said it was Charlotte’s decision. What—they can’t shell out a few more bucks for a couple of extra DCC? 

I wouldn't doubt it was Charlotte. That beotch is cheap. Her and her dad have been stealing money from the cheerleaders since 1961. They get paid nothing for their time and get treated bad in the process.  Kelli said the dcc gives them many opportunities... To do what?  

5 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

Lacey looks so plastic and fake in that photo compared to what she looked like when she first made the squad - did she have a second nose job, and what is up w/ her lips?   She was spray tanned so dark at cameos she looked darker than Kahlyn, and she looks like she has like 3 sets of false lashes on her eyes.

I’m all for glam and makeup, but she barely resembles her previous self anymore.  I don’t think it’s a good image for the DCC that these beautiful girls feel they need to change themselves so much.  Lacey was beautiful like she was :(.

You do realize she has had a nose job right?  So has the veteran red head,  I forget her name. So there is plastic

[Bubbetv]

On 10/12/2018 at 12:24 AM, ATLGirl said:

Kelli, you can compliment VK on her legs all you want. But if you’re going to rip apart girls like Liz Reuter, Megan Sharp and Grace Sells for being soft in the uniform, you cannot ignore VK’s belly. You make yourself the ultimate hypocrite when you choose to be blind to what we all see. Kitty’s “respect” for an 11-lb. gain be darned...

I think this was the “emergency” that Kelli ran away to handle. I think she saw VK in that uniform and didn’t want MTT filming her discusssion of how anyone looks in their cameo-certainly keep it to a bare minimum. She can’t keep up the VK bullshit for an entire day of appearance evaluating. If that broad makes it past finals next season, I’m done with this show.

p.s. Marshall gap lip smile should be the cover of my calendar. I’d buy extra for that.

[DCCme]

Sports psychologist.  What Malena needs is a sports psychologist.  Rewatching this season, on the show group episode, watching her interview and it hits me.  She completely to her soul believes that she can’t remember choreography and has memory issues.  Every time she make a tiny mistake, it confirms this for her, and she falls apart. Working with a sports psychologist could really help her get beyond this.  Bet you all didn’t expect such deep thoughts so to keep it real - did they wax the stage because so much falling during show group auditions?

[DCCme]

My friend just watched the episode and texted me “Victoria looks like a much younger version of you.  You’re still more Blair from Facts of Life but you all have that blonde hair and the big brown eyes and the all teeth smile”.  So many ways to be insulted in one compliment I don’t even know where to start.  In other news, I have a friend for sale if anyone needs one... (and also Victoria’s eyes aren’t brown).

[scorpio1031]

4 minutes ago, DCCme said:

My friend just watched the episode and texted me “Victoria looks like a much younger version of you.  You’re still more Blair from Facts of Life but you all have that blonde hair and the big brown eyes and the all teeth smile”.  So many ways to be insulted in one compliment I don’t even know where to start.  In other news, I have a friend for sale if anyone needs one... (and also Victoria’s eyes aren’t brown).

Blair was cool?

[DCCme]

3 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

Blair was cool?

True story - Lisa Welchel, aka Blair, to this day looks more like me then any of my actual siblings.