S05.E21: Phone Confetti and a Wee Dingle / S05.E22: Diamond Earrings and a Pumpkin Head

[paulvdb]

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Christy and Bonnie's relaxing trip to a spa takes a turn when Bonnie lands in jail.

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When Christy falls back into old habits, Bonnie worries about her well-being.

 

[Chaos Theory]

I really liked this episode.  It did something at least partially that I wanted the show to do for a long time.  It had Christy fall back into old habits.  I also liked that Bonnie was the one to remain calm in collected even in a jail environment and even managed to help someone out.

[Lily H]

Are they TRYING to make us hate Christy? Because they're doing a really, really good job of that. And I don't like the whole idea that deliberately gambling away thousands of dollars of someone else's money can just be swept aside with a "sorry". It can't. Someone who would do that is a vile, vile person who shouldn't expect anyone to forgive them anytime soon.

[bichonblitz]

2 hours ago, Lily H said:

And I don't like the whole idea that deliberately gambling away thousands of dollars of someone else's money can just be swept aside with a "sorry". It can't. Someone who would do that is a vile, vile person who shouldn't expect anyone to forgive them anytime soon.

As far as I'm concerned, they were all way to lenient on her. Adam acted like it was no big deal about the money. I know Jill is loaded with$$$ and 2 grand is nothing to her but it's the principle. Gambling away the gift of the diamond earrings was the lowest of the low. 

Oh, and Christy, YOU dumped Patrick so quit whining about him. 

[qtpye]

4 hours ago, Lily H said:

Are they TRYING to make us hate Christy? Because they're doing a really, really good job of that. And I don't like the whole idea that deliberately gambling away thousands of dollars of someone else's money can just be swept aside with a "sorry". It can't. Someone who would do that is a vile, vile person who shouldn't expect anyone to forgive them anytime soon.

 

1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

As far as I'm concerned, they were all way to lenient on her. Adam acted like it was no big deal about the money. I know Jill is loaded with$$$ and 2 grand is nothing to her but it's the principle. Gambling away the gift of the diamond earrings was the lowest of the low. 

Oh, and Christy, YOU dumped Patrick so quit whining about him. 

When everyone was mad at Bonnie for yelling at Christie at the party, I was sort of like WTF? I also hated that Christie walked away all huffy and Bonnie had to go to her to apologize. Christie really loves to tear into Bonnie, but it is Bonnie hustling to get the apartment manager gig (which is not the easiest job for someone her age to perform) that allowed her to pay for school and live rent-free in a pretty pricey town.

Also, I had little sympathy for her feeling bad about that guy getting married. I remember she blew him off because Jill was having a crisis and really did not seem to be that into him. I understand the support group is everything for her, but she was pretty rude about it and it was something Bonnie was could have handled on her own.  It seemed like she was not that upset about losing the guy as she was about not getting a big ring.

[nilyank]

56 minutes ago, qtpye said:

Christie really loves to tear into Bonnie, but it is Bonnie hustling to get the apartment manager gig (which is not the easiest job for someone her age to perform) that allowed her to pay for school and live rent-free in a pretty pricey town.

And the only reason that Bonnie had to do that was because Christie lost the house she was renting in part because she was gambling last time.

When she couldn't get into law school, she went into such s funk and while she was able to remain sober, she started gambling again to get her fix.

Now I am happy at the end that she got the win and got into law school but she still has to work both programs. Her problems don't just disappear just because some good came into her life.

[shrewd.buddha]

When Adam asked if there would ever be a day without drama, my first thought was : the marriage will never happen. And if the engagement is called off, I suppose we can expect Bonnie to fall off the wagon .. again.
This show does not seem to be a very good advertisement for AA. It would make me almost considering avoiding someone who announced themselves as a recovering addict. 
Maybe they are planning a spin-off show for Gambling Anonymous with another group of wacky characters who seem to spend all their time going to meetings and in a constant cycle of relapse and recovery.  

Edited May 11, 2018 by shrewd.buddha

[qtpye]

30 minutes ago, nilyank said:

And the only reason that Bonnie had to do that was because Christie lost the house she was renting in part because she was gambling last time.

When she couldn't get into law school, she went into such s funk and while she was able to remain sober, she started gambling again to get her fix.

Now I am happy at the end that she got the win and got into law school but she still has to work both programs. Her problems don't just disappear just because some good came into her life.

Right and also paying for law school is a lot of money and the career is not as stable as it used to be. The job is very stressful and really not the best fit for an addict. I know some very successful lawyers, but I really do not think it is the greatest path for her. Nevertheless, I was happy that she finally got a win at the end of the season.

[AnnieHeights]

Why isn't anyone talking about Gus the golden?  He was my favorite tonight!

Anna Farris has VERY skinny legs.....

Bonnie cracked me up when she was in jail.

[Height-Nonchalance]

Actor identity please.  When Christy phones Jill for money, there's a man in the car with Jill.  I recognized, but couldn't place, the male actor.  I know, it was just seconds long, but anyone know who that was?

[msani19]

Wasn't the sheriff in the Vegas jail the actor who used to be on Coach? I haven't checked IMDB yet, but I'm pretty sure it is one of the guys from that show.

I had no problem with what Bonnie said NOR when she said it. Christy constantly tears into Bonnie for everything. I mean, Bonnie gets on my nerves quite frequently, but in this situation, I was rooting for her. Christy gambled away $4K AND diamond earrings and wanted to act like it was a minor mistake. "My bad"...whatever. Bonnie was completely right as far as I was concerned. Bonnie didn't ruin Christy's big day, Christy did that by throwing away their very thoughtful gift. It wasn't even that they were diamond earrings, it was the thought that went into it from the group, something they thought she'd really appreciate and how excited they were to share it with her. I'd be furious. For some reason, I was more annoyed for Jill and I liked how Jamie played her annoyance at Christy. Because Jill is wealthy people feel like money is inconsequential to her.  Maybe $2k isn't a huge amount to her, but as mentioned above, it's the principle. What amount would Christy feel comfortable just taking form Jill and not care? I really hate when people spend other people's money because they think it's no big deal for the richer person. Christy has acted like this with Jill before.

I'm surprised but not surprised that she got into law school. I guess they wanted to give her some victory, but she now has 2 addictions to manage plus 1L is super stressful. Can she handle that?

Do we really think Bonnie and Adam will get married? 

[iMonrey]

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Actor identity please.  When Christy phones Jill for money, there's a man in the car with Jill.  I recognized, but couldn't place, the male actor.  I know, it was just seconds long, but anyone know who that was?

Jose Moreno Brooks. I know him from Telenovela, the short-lived Eva Longoria sitcom from a couple years ago. He's had guest roles in other sitcoms too. I wish he'd get a regular gig somewhere because I think he's genuinely funny.

This was one (two) of those episodes where they manage to treat serious issues with humor and makes this show a cut above your usual sitcom. It's frustrating as hell to see Christy succumb to her worst impulses but the show has never been just joke, joke, joke.

Was really surprised to see French Stewart. They barely ever show the restaurant any more and we haven't seen him season maybe Season 2.

[Sarah 103]

3 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:

Maybe they are planning a spin-off show for Gambling Anonymous with another group of wacky characters who seem to spend all their time going to meetings and in a constant cycle of relapse and recovery.  

I wondered if we would see some of the people from her Gambling Anonymous group become semi-regular characters. It might be a good way to bring in some new and different characters. Also, I wonder specifically if they were looking to add male characters who were not a love interest, because Christy mentions that the group was mostly men. 

1 hour ago, AnnieHeights said:

Why isn't anyone talking about Gus the golden?  He was my favorite tonight!

I thought Gus was just a big, adorable, fuzz ball. I loved the way Bonnie made such a fuss over him. Anyone else wonder if Adam really will teach Gus to get beer out of the fridge? It seems mildly plausible. 

[hnygrl]

Not my favorite episode(s). At all. It bugged me that Christy didn't see gambling away everybody's money as falling off the wagon and had the nerve to "celebrate" being sober. In my opinion, you're an addict. Period. Either it's Alcohol, drugs, sex or gambling. You fall off the wagon you go back to day one, just like if you took a drink. I hated her in these. She was awful and unapologetic all the way to the point when Bonnie told her in the car calmly, and factually how badly she'd screwed up and no, ain't nobody sorry, YOU did this. YOU screwed up. YOU DESERVED the dressing down I gave you and I stand by every word I said.

 

THAT is when she saw it.

At the end? When she "stayed behind to clean up?" My only thought was "your ass BETTER be going to a GA meeting..." Anything else would've ruined the series for me, so when she went next door to a GA meeting I was like "damn right..."

Still don't like her. Still didn't like these two episodes. 

But hey, she got into Law School. One she can't afford and will by some miracle be able to go to....eesh...

Sorry y'all, but I no likey...

Oh and the Sheriff was Marshall's DAD on How I Met Your Mother...that's why he looks so familiar.

[Chaos Theory]

Wow.  It seems I am watching a very different show then everyone else.

[MaryMitch]

Actor identity: I don't know who the officer in the jail was, but the guy playing the cop who arrested Bonnie was Max Adler, who played Karofsky, the football player from Glee who was initially a bully then turned out to be gay.

The show took an unusual turn, with Bonnie being "the responsible one" and Christy being the one causing all the problems. I like how they keep you guessing.

[sugarbaker design]

4 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:

This show does not seem to be a very good advertisement for AA. It would make me almost considering avoiding someone who announced themselves as a recovering addict. 

You're right, it's not a good advertisement for AA.  An amends is not an apology.  When I made 9th step amends I had to

1.  say I was in a spiritual program that asked me to correct my past mistakes. 

2.  State my offense. 

3.  Apologize. 

4.  Ask if there was anything I could do to make it better. 

5.  Ask if there was anything I had forgotten.

I did like the fact that all the girls were forgiving, probably because they had done awful things to people during the course of their alcoholism/addiction.  No one is more forgiving than a recovering alcoholic/addict.  Alcoholism/addiction is a beast with many heads.  If you're abstinent from one addiction and another raises its ugly head, as what happened to Christie, that means the core spiritual malady is not being addressed.  AA is a spiritual program and we almost never hear the girls talk about a higher power (save for Marjorie).

I did enjoy Marjorie's competitive spirit with the Christie's new sponsor.

[bichonblitz]

2 hours ago, AnnieHeights said:

Why isn't anyone talking about Gus the golden?  He was my favorite tonight!

Omg that dog is everything! Goldens are so very beautiful. 

[illdoc]

The sheriff was Bill some last name that's fairly long and begins with a P (I saw it briefly in the closing credits). I want to say...Panabecke or something like that.  ETA:  JUST FOUND IT---Bill Fagerbakke!! (okay, so I was right with the long name, wrong on initial letter).

Edited May 11, 2018 by illdoc

[roughing it]

50 minutes ago, LadyKenobi said:

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Wasn't the sheriff in the Vegas jail the actor who used to be on Coach?

Craig T. Nelson, and no. But that actor looked familiar to me too. 

No, it wasn't Craig T. Nelson, but yes, this actor played one of the assistant coaches on Coach.

[paulvdb]

8 minutes ago, illdoc said:

The sheriff was Bill some last name that's fairly long and begins with a P (I saw it briefly in the closing credits). I want to say...Panabecke or something like that.

Bill Fagerbakke. Seems to be mostly a voice actor, but also has some live action roles on his profile.

[monakane]

3 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Omg that dog is everything! Goldens are so very beautiful. 

 

3 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

I thought Gus was just a big, adorable, fuzz ball. I loved the way Bonnie made such a fuss over him. Anyone else wonder if Adam really will teach Gus to get beer out of the fridge? It seems mildly plausible

My favorite breed and Gus is a beauty.  Gus could absolutely be trained to fetch beers.  That would be cute as hell.

[bybrandy]

Dauber!!!!!!!!      I enjoyed those scenes.  

Christie was in real trouble here, but she has a problem.  I'm not defending her but she needs to get the help that apparently she's going to try to get, but switching addictions in a time of stress is a very, very real thing.  I didn't love that Christie was in such a bad place but it was a very real place to a lot of addicts.  

[SunnyBeBe]

9 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:

When Adam asked if there would ever be a day without drama, my first thought was : the marriage will never happen. And if the engagement is called off, I suppose we can expect Bonnie to fall off the wagon .. again.
This show does not seem to be a very good advertisement for AA. It would make me almost considering avoiding someone who announced themselves as a recovering addict. 
Maybe they are planning a spin-off show for Gambling Anonymous with another group of wacky characters who seem to spend all their time going to meetings and in a constant cycle of relapse and recovery.  

Most alcoholics and/or addicts that I know struggle with long term sobriety.  I have read that relapse is a symptom of addiction.  It is very likely to happen eventually and with many, it happens multiple times. I think the success rates for addiction are quite low overall. Based on the people that I have been in relationships with, I know that it can be very challenging, scary and unpredictable.  I'm not sure how people stay in those relationships, marriages, etc. long term. because it's quite likely your partner will relapse and you really have no control over it.

LOVE LOVE the Golden.  I swear they have souls.  I've never seen an animal anymore human like in their personality and demeanor. 

[Gothish520]

6 hours ago, msani19 said:

Do we really think Bonnie and Adam will get married? 

I really, really hope so. I love them together.

[Jeopardy15]

5 hours ago, paulvdb said:

Bill Fagerbakke. Seems to be mostly a voice actor, but also has some live action roles on his profile.

He’s the voice of Patrick the Starfish on Spongbob Squarepants. 

[60sgirl]

I liked these 2 episodes, although, I didn't like seeing Bonnie locked up.  I agreed with her when she reprimanded Christy and I thought it was unbelievable when Christy acted like she had been wronged.  When Christy stayed behind after the AA meeting, I wondered if she was sneaking off to another poker game!  I would find it more interesting if she didn't admit to the problem so soon, to show how much worse the addiction could get.  Bonnie and Jill have always had all the drama with the relapses, why not give Anna Faris her chance to show what she can do.

[Jeopardy15]

Christy is a brat and she needs to stop whining about how horrible Bonnie is. She is such a hypocrite. It’s really annoying. Ugh!

[Pop Tart]

The thing that got me was the way that Christy seemed so surprised that she was showing addictive behavior with the gambling. If you’re an addict with one compulsive type behavior, chances are you are with others. And I thought it had already been established that she was a gambling addict back when she lost their rent money and they had to run out on the back rent for their apartment. Seemed pretty clear that her behavior was that of an addict then and I even thought she and Bonnie had some discussion about it. Bonnie was immediately concerned last night when the police officer told her that the ATM he’d sent Christy to was in a casino. So that would indicate Bonnie knew gambling was a serious temptation for Christy.

I think because Christy is the “heroine” of the show the writers don’t want to go the really ugly ‘fall off the wagon’ route of her drinking or drugging again, so they’ve put gambling in that place.

The group certainly had a lot of reason to be upset with Christy (and I really didn’t like her much last night) but I do think Jill, of any of them, would give her the most slack given how bad off Jill was very recently and how patiently Christy stuck with her through it all. 

[Jillybean]

21 hours ago, AnnieHeights said:

Why isn't anyone talking about Gus the golden?  He was my favorite tonight!

 

 

As far as I'm concerned, Gus stole every scene he was in. I kept rewinding to watch him. He is an improbably chill Golden Retriever puppy. We have a 5-year-old Golden who we raised from puppyhood. We decided they either play with Gus for hours before filming his scenes, or he has an amazing trainer (or both). I noticed in his scenes on the couch, Adam or Bonnie (or both) is constantly petting him which is one way to keep him calm. But in my experience when you stop petting, Goldens will keep nudging you until you resume. Gus didn't do that. He is hilarious in his chillness.

[SunnyBeBe]

Anna is just so beautiful, that for me, she steals every scene.  In fact, she looks so young, that I have a difficult time keeping her chronological age on the show (and in real life) straight. So, she's how much older than the other new law students?  It's just hard for me to fathom.

[msrachelj]

21 hours ago, iMonrey said:

Jose Moreno Brooks. I know him from Telenovela, the short-lived Eva Longoria sitcom from a couple years ago. He's had guest roles in other sitcoms too. I wish he'd get a regular gig somewhere because I think he's genuinely funny.

This was one (two) of those episodes where they manage to treat serious issues with humor and makes this show a cut above your usual sitcom. It's frustrating as hell to see Christy succumb to her worst impulses but the show has never been just joke, joke, joke.

Was really surprised to see French Stewart. They barely ever show the restaurant any more and we haven't seen him season maybe Season 2.

l loved telenovela. so much crap gets renewed and the good ones (the ones i like!) get cancelled.

so, apparently it is not illegal to drive around with no plates on a car? um, i don't think so! no fine, no nothing, she still gets to drive it around. bull.

[funky-rat]

On ‎5‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 9:15 AM, shrewd.buddha said:

This show does not seem to be a very good advertisement for AA. It would make me almost considering avoiding someone who announced themselves as a recovering addict. 
Maybe they are planning a spin-off show for Gambling Anonymous with another group of wacky characters who seem to spend all their time going to meetings and in a constant cycle of relapse and recovery.  

 

AA isn't the be-all end-all cure.  People do relapse - some frequently.  My husband knows people who show up to meetings drunk.  Only the addict knows when they've reached absolute bottom.  It doesn't help everyone, unfortunately.

22 hours ago, msani19 said:

Wasn't the sheriff in the Vegas jail the actor who used to be on Coach? I haven't checked IMDB yet, but I'm pretty sure it is one of the guys from that show.

Yes - he was Dauber.  He's also the voice of Patrick on SpongeBob Squarepants, and he was in the TV adaptation of "The Stand" by Steven King, where he played a developmentally delayed character whose name escapes me right now, but he spelled everything "M-O-O-N".

21 hours ago, hnygrl said:

Not my favorite episode(s). At all. It bugged me that Christy didn't see gambling away everybody's money as falling off the wagon and had the nerve to "celebrate" being sober. In my opinion, you're an addict. Period. Either it's Alcohol, drugs, sex or gambling. You fall off the wagon you go back to day one, just like if you took a drink. I hated her in these. She was awful and unapologetic all the way to the point when Bonnie told her in the car calmly, and factually how badly she'd screwed up and no, ain't nobody sorry, YOU did this. YOU screwed up. YOU DESERVED the dressing down I gave you and I stand by every word I said.

The thing is that she doesn't lose her sobriety "status" because she didn't drink or abuse drugs.  Yes, gambling is an addiction - a good chunk of the people in AA are cross addicts, but gambling is separate from alcohol.  She didn't drink again.  My husband is coming up on his 2 year chip with AA.  He's a cross addict, and has other areas that he struggles with that don't have support groups for.  But if he went off on one of his other issues and fell back in to bad habits, but didn't drink, then no one would take his "status" away from him.

I can understand her friends being upset over the earrings, but I wagged my finger at Jill because she has no right to complain about a fellow addict's behavior, considering how Christie came running every time she needed it.  Marjorie was the only one who I thought handled it in a more realistic manner.  She's disappointed, but understands Christie will forever be an addict on one level or another, and gets why it happened.

Edited May 12, 2018 by funky-rat

[Blakeston]

2 hours ago, msrachelj said:

so, apparently it is not illegal to drive around with no plates on a car? um, i don't think so! no fine, no nothing, she still gets to drive it around. bull.

That was really weird. She didn't get temporary plates?

1 hour ago, funky-rat said:

The thing is that she doesn't lose her sobriety "status" because she didn't drink or abuse drugs.  Yes, gambling is an addiction - a good chunk of the people in AA are cross addicts, but gambling is separate from alcohol.  She didn't drink again.  My husband is coming up on his 2 year chip with AA.  He's a cross addict, and has other areas that he struggles with that don't have support groups for.  But if he went off on one of his other issues and fell back in to bad habits, but didn't drink, then no one would take his "status" away from him.

Agreed. If people in AA and NA could only celebrate their sobriety if they'd conquered every addiction they had, then there would be extremely few people getting their chips.

I thought they did a good job setting up the conflict between Bonnie and Christy, and writing it. Everything that Bonnie said was justified, but screaming at her at her graduation party wasn't helpful or necessary. At that point, what Christy needed was someone to encourage her to seek help.

[theatremouse]

On 5/11/2018 at 6:25 PM, Pop Tart said:

The thing that got me was the way that Christy seemed so surprised that she was showing addictive behavior with the gambling.

This confused me because I thought back when she gambled away the rent, she'd already realized/acknowledged she was also a gambling addict.So it was weird to me she seemed to have no idea whatsoever during this episode. I mean maybe they were going for she was in denial? But it played more like she really never thought of it, which made no sense.

On 5/12/2018 at 9:28 AM, Blakeston said:

That was really weird. She didn't get temporary plates?

California doesn't do temp plates as far as I know, but you do get this temp-paper thing that's taped on the inside of the front windshield. Technically that's valid for 90 days (but if you've "received" the plates it expires upon receipt). So if it had been shorter and she hadn't admitted to "forgetting" to put them on,she could've been ok or talked her way out of it...in CA at least.Since they were in Nevada it may not have mattered if Nevada's laws are different.

[Chaos Theory]

I lust have missed it,  what dog?  

[Irlandesa]

These were good episodes but both Christy and Bonnie bothered me.  Christy for wallowing in self-pity even though she realized she wasn't in love with Patrick (although I was wondering if they were ever going to explore the idea that she was self-sabotaging an otherwise healthy relationship because it felt too weird compared to what she's normally attracted to).  And Bonnie for telling Adam that he couldn't attend his brother's wedding when Patrick did nothing wrong.  Christy was not harmed by him. 

As for the money--Jill being mad even after the amends would have been okay with me if Christy hadn't done so much for Jill recently.  I did like Adam's practical "lend money to family, never expect it back" reaction. 

[SanDiegoInExile]

On 5/12/2018 at 6:57 AM, msrachelj said:

so, apparently it is not illegal to drive around with no plates on a car? um, i don't think so! no fine, no nothing, she still gets to drive it around. bull.

In CA, that has actually been the case.  Just recently, the law was changed to force dealers to issue paper placards, like every other state has done for decades.  The police would only stop you if you were doing some other potentially illegal matter.  Of course, everything changes once you cross into Nevada.  Missing plates would definitely lead to a traffic stop.

https://instamotor.com/driving-tips/driving-laws/california-closes-the-steve-jobs-license-plate-loophole

[msrachelj]

11 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

These were good episodes but both Christy and Bonnie bothered me.  Christy for wallowing in self-pity even though she realized she wasn't in love with Patrick (although I was wondering if they were ever going to explore the idea that she was self-sabotaging an otherwise healthy relationship because it felt too weird compared to what she's normally attracted to).  And Bonnie for telling Adam that he couldn't attend his brother's wedding when Patrick did nothing wrong.  Christy was not harmed by him. 

As for the money--Jill being mad even after the amends would have been okay with me if Christy hadn't done so much for Jill recently.  I did like Adam's practical "lend money to family, never expect it back" reaction. 

adam really needs to find his balls. he should go to his brothers wedding if he wants. especially since it was christy who didn't want patrick and now she's all hurt that he's moved on? tough shit.

jill is filthy rich. i can't help but get pissed when she is so petty about money. your friend is barely making the bills and working her ass off. it doesn't hurt your finances to help out because you can. 

[qtpye]

On 5/12/2018 at 9:42 AM, SunnyBeBe said:

Anna is just so beautiful, that for me, she steals every scene.  In fact, she looks so young, that I have a difficult time keeping her chronological age on the show (and in real life) straight. So, she's how much older than the other new law students?  It's just hard for me to fathom.

Agreed. It must be like she drinks unicorn blood in her spare time to remain so ageless. I will actually say that she even looks better today than 20 years ago. I wish she could package and sell whatever she does to remain so youthful, but it is probably nothing more than good genes.

[qtpye]

12 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

These were good episodes but both Christy and Bonnie bothered me.  Christy for wallowing in self-pity even though she realized she wasn't in love with Patrick (although I was wondering if they were ever going to explore the idea that she was self-sabotaging an otherwise healthy relationship because it felt too weird compared to what she's normally attracted to).  And Bonnie for telling Adam that he couldn't attend his brother's wedding when Patrick did nothing wrong.  Christy was not harmed by him. 

As for the money--Jill being mad even after the amends would have been okay with me if Christy hadn't done so much for Jill recently.  I did like Adam's practical "lend money to family, never expect it back" reaction. 

This is so true. Christy acted like a jerk to Patrick when Patrick went out of his way to visit her. Jill was having a crisis, but Bonnie said she could handle it and Christie really could have spent at least a couple of days with him. Also, what was she so mad about...that this great nice looking guy who was looking to settle down easily found love? It was not like they had a five-year relationship that he had to take time to get over. It is also true that Bonne has no right to ban Adam from the wedding. Patrick did nothing wrong. I really wish that they would just give up on Christie having romantic relationships because she sometimes messes up with fairly good guys for no reason.

[monakane]

On 5/12/2018 at 9:17 AM, Jillybean said:

As far as I'm concerned, Gus stole every scene he was in. I kept rewinding to watch him. He is an improbably chill Golden Retriever puppy. We have a 5-year-old Golden who we raised from puppyhood. We decided they either play with Gus for hours before filming his scenes, or he has an amazing trainer (or both). I noticed in his scenes on the couch, Adam or Bonnie (or both) is constantly petting him which is one way to keep him calm. But in my experience when you stop petting, Goldens will keep nudging you until you resume. Gus didn't do that. He is hilarious in his chillness.

My sister had a male golden who was the most chill dog ever even as a puppy.  Her female was more energetic.  Both of them would keep nudging you to keep petting them.  They are truly the most well-behaved breed and gorgeous to boot.

[Kid]

On 5/11/2018 at 7:05 PM, Jeopardy15 said:

He’s the voice of Patrick the Starfish on Spongbob Squarepants. 

And he was on Coach and in the miniseries, The Stand.

Edited May 14, 2018 by Kid

[Blakeston]

14 hours ago, SanDiegoInExile said:

In CA, that has actually been the case.  Just recently, the law was changed to force dealers to issue paper placards, like every other state has done for decades.  The police would only stop you if you were doing some other potentially illegal matter.  Of course, everything changes once you cross into Nevada.  Missing plates would definitely lead to a traffic stop.

https://instamotor.com/driving-tips/driving-laws/california-closes-the-steve-jobs-license-plate-loophole

So we're supposed to think that Christy had paper placards? I wish they had explained that.

Re: Anna Faris's youthful appearance - she definitely looks younger than 40, but her hair covers so much of her face that it's hard to tell what she really looks like.

[SmithW6079]

9 hours ago, qtpye said:

Agreed. It must be like she drinks unicorn blood in her spare time to remain so ageless. I will actually say that she even looks better today than 20 years ago. I wish she could package and sell whatever she does to remain so youthful, but it is probably nothing more than good genes.

Well, that and money for personal trainers and nutritionists and perhaps a skilled cosmetic surgeon.

10 hours ago, msrachelj said:

adam really needs to find his balls. he should go to his brothers wedding if he wants. especially since it was christy who didn't want patrick and now she's all hurt that he's moved on? tough shit.

jill is filthy rich. i can't help but get pissed when she is so petty about money. your friend is barely making the bills and working her ass off. it doesn't hurt your finances to help out because you can. 

Agree to both your points, especially since Adam and Patrick finally reconnected after years of estrangement. And I don't think what Patrick did is so unusual. He and Christy dated for what, a few months (maybe)? I worked with a woman who'd been engaged for years, broke it off & started dating another coworker and got engaged and married within a year. It happens.

Jill can be mad at Christy for stealing from her, but Jill's constant snarky asides now about how generous she's being or how the others take advantage of her because she has money is really, really annoying. 

I only started watching the show after they moved into the apartment (although I tried it a few times during season 1), but if Christy lost their house because of her gambling, how did she think she didn't have a problem with it, especially knowing she's an addictive personality?

I thought Bonnie was right on the mark for calling her out for her irresponsibility in gambling. To Christy's credit, however, she is making a sincere effort to pay the money back.

[Ravon Okiro]

On 5/11/2018 at 6:01 AM, qtpye said:

When everyone was mad at Bonnie for yelling at Christie at the party, I was sort of like WTF? I also hated that Christie walked away all huffy and Bonnie had to go to her to apologize. Christie really loves to tear into Bonnie, but it is Bonnie hustling to get the apartment manager gig (which is not the easiest job for someone her age to perform) that allowed her to pay for school and live rent-free in a pretty pricey town.

Also, I had little sympathy for her feeling bad about that guy getting married. I remember she blew him off because Jill was having a crisis and really did not seem to be that into him. I understand the support group is everything for her, but she was pretty rude about it and it was something Bonnie was could have handled on her own.  It seemed like she was not that upset about losing the guy as she was about not getting a big ring.

This.  On both counts.  Adam and then Marjorie (off-screen) coming down on Bonnie for chastising Christy bothered me so much.  Had she done it at a party that wasn't for Christy, I would have understood completely.  But it was her party.  She did screw Adam and Jill over, as well as the rest of the ladies, so she deserved to be taken to task in front of them.

And Christy was easily not that into Patrick.  She needs to get the hell over it, because she and she alone made sure that they wouldn't be together.

Aside from that, though, good hour-long finale.

Edited May 17, 2018 by Ravon Okiro

[Nysha]

On 5/11/2018 at 6:03 AM, nilyank said:

Now I am happy at the end that she got the win and got into law school but she still has to work both programs. Her problems don't just disappear just because some good came into her life.

It's a good thing she doesn't have kids to raise along with everything else.

[kelslamu]

So, was this the one college she forgot she applied to?  I don't remember her saying, "Oh, they didn't even respond, so that's a no!" or something to that effect.

[theatremouse]

It looked like the one she was wait listed on.

[voiceover]

Started watching last month (TVLand), and though I was "meh" in the beginning (IIRC, some time in Season 5), I found myself drawn in.  The women chatting at the coffee shop, won me over.  It's a bit of a welcome callback to Sex and the City.

On the subject of that show: a point of real irritation with that series' fanbase was the subplot when Carrie guilted Charlotte into selling her engagement ring and giving Carrie the money to cover the down payment on her apartment.

I was on the side of shrugging off what turned out to be Charlotte's generosity and personal growth (not needing to hold onto the symbol of her former life), but we were all pretty much united at our anger over the showrunners' completely dropping the idea that Carrie ever repaid her friend.  It could have been a throwaway line when it was mentioned that, for example, the French royalty check had given her enough to close that chapter.  But: no mention, not ever.

So I was happy to see Christy hand Jill the envelope.  Even if that subplot fades away.