"The View": Week Of 4/23/18

[Morgalisa]

Joy played it off after the incident, but I noticed that she was kind of subdued and her body language was closed off.  It's the first time I recall seeing Joy cross her arms.  She is usually very relaxed and open.  I think Meghan caught her completely off guard.  As she did me as well.  It was such an unexpected attack and not  warranted in any way.  She needs anger management.  And she definitely needs to apologize to Joy.  For someone so privileged, she is awfully angry and lacking in grace.

Her bio on Twitter says she is a "Blonde Republican." WTF?

[OnTime]

29 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

Kathy Griffin next week?  I want to see that!

Oh boy. Meghan has WORDS for her.

Edited April 27, 2018 by OnTime

[blondiec0332]

1 minute ago, Morgalisa said:

Her bio on Twitter says she is a "Blonde Republican." WTF?

There is a great scene in the movie Heartburn (which is about Nora Ephron's marriage to Carl Bernstein) where the characters were at dinner and they each had to describe themselves with three words.  Meryl Streep playing Nora said pregnant, happy and I can't remember the third word.  I can totally see Meghan using blonde and Republican as words to describe herself.  

For the record my three words are mother, smart and shoes.

[Wings]

1 minute ago, blondiec0332 said:

For the record my three words are mother, smart and shoes.

Me too!  LOL

[RHJunkie]

2 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

And yet she proves herself wrong each day.

But I don't think she ever feels enlightened when others correct her or provide a perspective that strongly challenges her point of view. By her own admission, she enjoys the combative part of discussion but often times doesn't know how to do it maturely and when she's called out, she just goes mute. I personally think that Sara and Sunny are the most effective discussion contributors in the way they listen and deliver their responses but Sara always tops my list because even with her understanding demeanor, she's not afraid to take in what someone is saying and right after say 'hmm, I hadn't even thought of it like that'. If Meghan is going to be so bullheaded about how she engages on certain issues, then it would at least be somewhat redeeming if she could listen, consider and acknowledge the other point of view rather than just sit silent. It just comes across as cowardly.

[A.J.]

32 minutes ago, Wings said:

I have not seen any praise for her here.  In comparison to Elsa, her calm delivery is better.   

There has been "some" praise for Paula, not a lot.  I'm a big fan myself.  I love her humor, humility and professionalism.   

[Medicine Crow]

I may be wrong, but I think Paula was trying to pull a "gotcha" on Michael Avanatti when she asked (told him) about exactly when Stormy was threatened.

(As a general rule, I'm okay with Paula, but ....)

[Bronzedog]

I don't mind Paula.  She's kind of a non-entity to me.  I don't even notice her.

[buffynut]

57 minutes ago, Jewlmc said:

Ugh. I know she's popular here, but I don't like Paula. 

I never liked Paula, and was happy when she mostly went away.  However, now that MM has arrived on the scene, suddenly Paula doesn't seem so bad.  

56 minutes ago, piano said:

Is there any possibility that the producers tell Meghan to act this way in order to gain ratings?  I'm not defending her at all, however, if the powers that be see great ratings they're more likely to keep this twit on for another season.

I don't doubt that the producers encourage some of her behaviour.  I mean, how many times did she sputter about it being "her job" to explain things/her side. 

18 minutes ago, Morgalisa said:

Joy played it off after the incident, but I noticed that she was kind of subdued and her body language was closed off.  It's the first time I recall seeing Joy cross her arms.  She is usually very relaxed and open.  I think Meghan caught her completely off guard.  As she did me as well.  It was such an unexpected attack and not  warranted in any way.  She needs anger management.  And she definitely needs to apologize to Joy.  For someone so privileged, she is awfully angry and lacking in grace.

It was totally an unexpected reaction to a unoffensive, jokey comment.  No wonder Joy was taken aback by MM's insane response!

[backformore]

35 minutes ago, Wings said:

Why the ugh for Biggs?  I know nothing about him but his name is familiar.  

 

I just never liked him in any role, and he seems to be kind of a jerk even when he's not playing the part of a jerk. He's made stupid insensitive jokes, and comes across like he thinks very highly of himself.

He was in the American pie movies, and he was the worst part of an excellent show on Netflix, Orange is the New Black.  I almost stopped watching that show  because he was so awful, but I'm glad I stuck it out. After the first season he was rarely in it.

[Ladyrain]

57 minutes ago, Jewlmc said:

Ugh. I know she's popular here, but I don't like Paula. 

Me neither.  Especially after she tried a gotcha question with Michael Avenatti about Stormy's husband and he had to set her straight.  Hee.

Is there a theory as to why Sunny acts so girlish and coy and clueless on The View?  I saw her commenting on another show yesterday in her capacity as a lawyer and it was like watching a totally different person.  She was serious, mature, coherent, no giggles and guffaws.  Then I turn on View today and semi-stupid Sunny is back.  I just can't take her seriously as a former prosecutor based on her behavior on this show.  She comes across as somewhat immature and naive.  What's up with that???

[ari333]

1 hour ago, backformore said:

I see Megs is taking the day off today.

Jason Biggs, ugh!

I'd have preferred Daniels' atty as guest host. But Jason beats the Mooch. :-)

Edited April 27, 2018 by ari333

[athousandclowns]

I don't remember if it was Views FB or their Twitter yesterday but Joy was taking questions and they all had to do  with when MM was going to be fired. I'll have to try and find how she's answered. Don't think I can take Biggs this morning. 

[General Days]

On 4/26/2018 at 12:00 PM, backformore said:

Joy's comment could be taken two ways -

1. sarcastic - happy birthday, your husband gets on tv and acts like an ass, basically humiliates you by pretty much admitting that he screwed a porn star;

or

2. Happy birthday, Melania! if what you really want is OUT of this marriage, then this might give you the ammunition you need.  hire a divorce lawyer. 

 

When I was watching it live, I really took Joy's wisecrack in the spirit of, "Ugh, poor thing," with the ugh sentiment in the "Happy Birthday, Melania," being directed toward the Annoying Orange and the poor-thing sentiment being directed toward his unfortunate, but hopefully someday handsomely compensated, current wife. 

 

23 hours ago, CheezyXpressed said:

I know most will talk about Joy and Meghan getting at it again (I feel like Joy really doesn't care for Meghan at all. But more than that, she was fine with everyone before, even Elisabeth, so it's crazy just how quickly Joy soured on Meghan)

Anyways, instead of talking about them, I just want to mention that Sunny's tea drinking game is still on point. She's truly my favourite part whenever Meghan and Joy go at each other.

 

I'm not a violent person. I'm not even a particularly physical person, aside from talking a lot with my hands, but I really wanted Joy to go across the table and throttle MM, yesterday. I'm glad she didn't, but that's how I felt in the moment. 

 

1 hour ago, Medicine Crow said:

The thing that bothered me the most was her utter lack of propriety for the situation (Kids' Day) & I'm sure Joy wasn't impressed with being screamed at in front of her grandson.  I'll bet today is going to be very awkward!!!

Oops ... spoke too soon ... Meggie went running back went to "visit" her Mom & Dad. 

 

I don't think Joy's grandson was there, was he? I thought I remembered her saying something about how he would have had to miss school.

I know it happened yesterday, and there's been a whole show since then, but I feel like MM perceives Joy (particularly since the Pence incident) as the wounded bird, and MM is going after her in an attempt to make herself a name as the liberal slayer, so that when she ultimately returns to FOX, she'll do so at a higher salary. She thinks Joy is an easy kill and the bounty she can bring back to Murdoch et al. 

Trying to set up Joy like that and put words in her mouth (or twist the target of Joy's joke) is such dirty pool that I am not sure I can keep watching. Disagreement is fine. Trying to make your co-worker look bad on purpose is, in my mind, evil. 

I could write it off to MM's stupidity, except when Joy explained herself, MM still wasn't having any of it. It didn't fit in her preconceived narrative of how she was going to make Joy look bad, so it didn't happen.

[LIMOM]

35 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

There is a great scene in the movie Heartburn (which is about Nora Ephron's marriage to Carl Bernstein) where the characters were at dinner and they each had to describe themselves with three words.  Meryl Streep playing Nora said pregnant, happy and I can't remember the third word.  I can totally see Meghan using blonde and Republican as words to describe herself.  

For the record my three words are mother, smart and shoes.

Why shoes?

[blondiec0332]

1 minute ago, LIMOM said:

Why shoes?

I love shoes.  I own probably 500 pairs of shoes.

[LIMOM]

1 minute ago, blondiec0332 said:

I love shoes.  I own probably 500 pairs of shoes.

Dang.

[ari333]

I thought Kathy Griffin was banned from The View, but there was a long while that I stopped watching (due to Bits.) So I guess she is un-banned. MM's head will surely explode.

[CheezyXpressed]

I kind of cringed when Joy first said that Moon Jae In was from China, but thankfully someone said he's from South Korea.

 

1 hour ago, Jewlmc said:

Ugh. I know she's popular here, but I don't like Paula. 

I like her. I don't always agree with her, but her awkwardness and humour are kind of endearing and unlike MM, I can tell that she gets along with the other women after the cameras are off. Plus, it was funny watching how irate Whoopi got when she was a full time member.

Her question to Michael also shows how she's different from MM. MM brought up how Trump's family would feel by this news, while Paula asked about the timeline which is a valid question. MM brought nothing to the table, while with Paula we got a better understanding of how everything happened. It may have been a 'Gotcha' question, but I think it's okay if it adds more to the interview and provides us with more information about the case.

[Picture It. Sicily]

I'm sure Kathy is salivating at the thought of MM trying to come at her a la Bitsy and failing. "I live for this stuff!" Another failed fileting if MM doesn't have the good sense to go "visit Daddy".

[GHScorpiosRule]

23 minutes ago, buffynut said:

I don't doubt that the producers encourage some of her behaviour.  I mean, how many times did she sputter about it being "her job" to explain things/her side. 

I don't think that has anything to do with the producers' input. That's ALL Meghan and that she believes his her "duty" to inform us poor, ign'r't dumb folks. As for being contractually obligated to appear on other shows? Pfft. If that were the case, then Joy, Whoopi, Sara, Sunny would also be doing the tours on all the Sunday shows.

[ari333]

2 minutes ago, CheezyXpressed said:

I kind of cringed when Joy first said that Moon Jae In was from China, but thankfully someone said he's from South Korea.

I noticed it and I think (was it Paula) someone said, "South Korean  President." It was a mis-speak by Joy, but she gets most things correct. People make mistakes. I was confused for a second too

[blondiec0332]

Michael Avenatti answered a question I had always wondered about.  Why did someone threaten Stormy Daniels in 2011 about the Trump affair?  Because her ex husband sold the story to In Touch magazine.  So I guess someone there tipped off Trump then right?

[Apprentice79]

12 minutes ago, ari333 said:

I thought Kathy Griffin was banned from The View, but there was a long while that I stopped watching (due to Bits.) So I guess she is un-banned. MM's head will surely explode.

Baba Wawa banned her for mocking Barbara and Kathy spoke about the behind the scenes shenanigans, that she witnessed, in her comedic act. Baba Wawa was fit to be tied..

Edited April 27, 2018 by Apprentice79

[CheezyXpressed]

5 minutes ago, ari333 said:

I noticed it and I think (was it Paula) someone said, "South Korean  President." It was a mis-speak by Joy, but she gets most things correct. People make mistakes. I was confused for a second too

I know and I don't fault her for her mistake. But I still cringed when she mentioned China lol.

[ari333]

6 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

Michael Avenatti answered a question I had always wondered about.  Why did someone threaten Stormy Daniels in 2011 about the Trump affair?  Because her ex husband sold the story to In Touch magazine.  So I guess someone there tipped off Trump then right?

I am still confused on all the details, but i really like Avenatti. Actually Daniels seemed poised and articulate the other day too. I guess it's on me for being judge-y that I was expecting less.  I wish them luck in their ...legal endeavers

Edited April 27, 2018 by ari333

[Tosia]

4 hours ago, Orillia said:

Dr.  LIMOM, I think your analysis is right on the money. It's a tough situation to deal with and everyone reacts differently. I found myself being nicer to people  as the small things just didn't seem that important. However, that being said, it's not like she's gone through a major personality change. She's always been annoying.

So, why doesn't Meh-gan take a leave of absence and stay with her father?   

It's  not like she needs the money or the job.

MM has always been openly agressive to Joy and most guests. And stupidly wrong about facts, spouting lies, and moronically  misusing vocabulary. No passes from me.

Go away and be with your father.  

Sorry, my heartstrings are steel like a National guitar. 

[blondiec0332]

1 minute ago, Tosia said:

Go away and be with your father.  

Sorry, my heartstrings are steel like a National guitar. 

She is in a position most people aren't fortunate to be in.  She could take time off to be with her sick dad.  Most working people cannot.

[LIMOM]

3 minutes ago, Tosia said:

So, why doesn't Meh-gan take a leave of absence and stay with her father?   

It's  not like she needs the money or the job.

MM has always been openly agressive to Joy and most guests. And stupidly wrong about facts, spouting lies, and moronically  misusing vocabulary. No passes from me.

Go away and be with your father.  

Sorry, my heartstrings are steel like a National guitar. 

Ok call me a misguided softie.

[ari333]

13 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

She is in a position most people aren't fortunate to be in.  She could take time off to be with her sick dad.  Most working people cannot.

Excellent point. 

[pachebo]

Does anyone else scream at their screen to Whoopi " Do YOUR  own homework!!!!" and "Learn YOUR own damned history????"

[Apprentice79]

4 minutes ago, pachebo said:

Does anyone else scream at their screen to Whoopi " Do YOUR  own homework!!!!" and "Learn YOUR own damned history????"

I do, especially, when she says that Black people got the right to vote in the 60's... That is not the case.  

[jumper sage]

9 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

I do, especially, when she says that Black people got the right to vote in the 60's... That is not the case.  

Actually she is right.  1965 is when the Voting Rights Act was enacted.  This ensured the no poll tax and literacy tests etc.

I thought MM's husband was on this week.

[ChicagoCita]

1 hour ago, Ladyrain said:

[Paula] tried a gotcha question with Michael Avenatti about Stormy's husband and he had to set her straight.  Hee.

People should know better than to try gotcha questions with Michael Avenatti. The guy is great at his job. He's smart, he's unflappable, he's aggressive, and he's out to make a name for himself. A shark in the best sense of the word.

The road is littered with people who have tried and failed to catch him with gotcha questions, including Meghan.

[Apprentice79]

24 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

Actually she is right.  1965 is when the Voting Rights Act was enacted.  This ensured the no poll tax and literacy tests etc.

I thought MM's husband was on this week.

Black men got the right to vote in 1870.  During reconstruction, there were Black senators elected and Black men, in the south voted all the time and that eventually caused a backlash, that gave rise to Jim crow laws.  Black women got the right to vote in 1920 with White women. Black people in the North voted all the time and were Republicans. Black people in the south could not exercise their constitutional right to vote. The Voting rights act guaranteed that they would be able to vote,  unmolested.. The backlash to that was the many ways that voter suppression have been used to stifle the Black vote.. 

Edited April 27, 2018 by Apprentice79

[Former Nun]

2 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

She does seem to be absent the day after she goes off the rails.

We need to keep track.

[GHScorpiosRule]

30 minutes ago, jumper sage said:

I thought MM's husband was on this week.

No. He wasn't scheduled to be on, and I never want to see him on this show.

[pinguina]

2 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Kathy Griffin next week?  I want to see that!  Regarding the teacher they interviewed about the Cosby verdict- teachers can get phone calls during class now?  God, I'm old.

I wish I could see Monday's show!  I really like her, even when I don't agree with her.

There have been phones in classrooms for at least ten - fifteen years (depending on where you are at).  Most of the phones have their own extension number.  At my school, if a parent called the district office and asked for a specific teacher, they would be connected (or if they knew extension could directly dial extension number).  If they called at school, office clerk would call your classroom to see if you want to speak with them.  If you said yes, the parent would be connected, if no - they could leave a message.  This was great for me, because I always turned off my cell phone in class, but if there was an emergency my family could still contact me.

[Tanichka]

3 hours ago, Morgalisa said:

Her bio on Twitter says she is a "Blonde Republican." WTF?

As opposed to a brunet or red-haired Republican?    LOL      Too funny!!

2 hours ago, Picture It. Sicily said:

I'm sure Kathy is salivating at the thought of MM trying to come at her a la Bitsy and failing. "I live for this stuff!" Another failed fileting if MM doesn't have the good sense to go "visit Daddy".

MM is so out of her league when she tries to take on anyone with a modicum of intelligence.

[JAYJAY1979]

A day without meghan is a beautiful day indeed.

I dont get why a guy needs to guest co host..isn't the point of the show about women discussing life and their views without men around?  Still..at least it isn't the mooch.

[merriebreeze]

Hope Biggs' appearance doesn't signal a return to Guy Day Friday and that he was just a fill-in for MM, albeit an unnecessary one.  Guy Day Friday was almost as bad as Whoopi's WTH Wednesdays. Thank goodness they abandoned both. Don't you think that Joy, Sunny and even MM have a provision in their contracts that exempts them from hawking all the infomercial stuff? Poor Sara drew the short straw, but she handles it as well as anybody could. 

[Haleth]

4 hours ago, OnTime said:

Oh boy. Meghan has WORDS for her.

But will she use them correctly?

[athousandclowns]

3 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

Baba Wawa banned her for mocking Barbara and Kathy spoke about the behind the scenes shenanigans, that she witnessed, in her comedic act. Baba Wawa was fit to be tied..

I’m pretty sure she returned after that. What she said in her act( I saw it in person) that she couldn’t get over BW highly recommended a certain brand of lube when they were warning Kathy about dryness that happens at menopause.

MM is probably studying Bitsy’s confrontation on YouTube  with Kathy. Good times. 

[Orillia]

I think they missed out on a real opportunity by not having Avenatti co host. Would have been interesting to hear his thoughts on another high profile case. He's everywhere these days and maybe couldn't commit to the hour. At least it would have spared us the agony of having to watch Jason Biggs's game show clip.

Edited April 27, 2018 by Orillia
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[Wings]

5 hours ago, OnTime said:

Oh boy. Meghan has WORDS for her.

I sure hope so!  Rumble! 

[backformore]

Maybe because of the lack of hair, but whenever I see Avanetti on TV,  I think of JP, who was on the Bachelorette. 

 

 

[Wings]

I do too! @backformore.  That is some of his appeal for me. 

[Former Nun]

8 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

I wouldn't even put her in the top ten of blond conservative "pundits".

Well...what about where she puts herself...as a "pundint"?

Edited April 28, 2018 by Former Nun
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[Former Nun]

4 hours ago, JAYJAY1979 said:

I dont get why a guy needs to guest co host..isn't the point of the show about women discussing life and their views without men around?

...and I don't get why they have to fill the empty chair at all.  Just don't place the chair at the table and allow "the usuals" to carry on with one missing.

[Morgalisa]

3 hours ago, athousandclowns said:

I’m pretty sure she returned after that. What she said in her act( I saw it in person) that she couldn’t get over BW highly recommended a certain brand of lube when they were warning Kathy about dryness that happens at menopause.

MM is probably studying Bitsy’s confrontation on YouTube  with Kathy. Good times. 

I recall that Barbara was a fan of Astroglide.