Josiah and Lauren: He Has To Marry Somebody

[Churchhoney]

26 minutes ago, Fuzzysox said:

We all know that motherhood will be the mannequin's greatest accomplishment!!

I note that no head or brain is required by this mannequin either. The patriarchy's ideal. 😀

Edited July 6, 2019 by Churchhoney

[GeeGolly]

On 7/4/2019 at 8:41 AM, Abstract said:

That is how it's done now. Even the store mannequins are in on the act.

Just to let you all know, I was in Target minding my own business, saw this mannequin, and had to take a picture because I thought of Lauren.

And Jinger's hat too. A Fundy mannequin. 

[Ohiopirate02]

24 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

I note that no head or brain is required by this mannequin either. The patriarchy's ideal. 😀

But can the mannequin make a sandwich?

[Churchhoney]

34 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

But can the mannequin make a sandwich?

Well, she must have done it at least once. 

[JoanArc]

9 hours ago, Puffin said:

I know a lot of people were wondering what Jessa was gonna be like as a parent but you can tell she adores her children.

I think Jessa adores the extension of herself.

[Sofa Sloth]

At least growing up in big fundie families, these girls all have plenty of experience child-rearing the younger siblings for the actual mothers. Practically wise, they should have it locked down. Whether they are emotionally ready to commit to putting all their needs and wants aside, be flexible and to do what’s best for another human is a different story. That comes down to personality and maturity a lot of the time. Kendra and Joy (who are much the same age I think?) appear to have this quality. Lauren comes across way too self-absorbed, vain and fastidious to be able to cope well with motherhood. Outside of the Pinterest Instagram version she’ll inevitably present to the world, I bet Si and Jana will be doing the background work.

[Ijustwantsomechips]

7 hours ago, JoanArc said:

I think Jessa adores the extension of herself.

Thank you @Puffin. I was thinking the same thing this morning. Jessa gets a lot of credit for being such a loving and doting mother, but the bar is very low.  I don’t see much difference between the way she sees her kids and the way Jim Bob sees his kids as the personification of his virility and glory.  She annoys me to no end.  

Lauren strikes me as the type of wife who will have little use for Josiah once the baby gets here.  Until she wants another.  In another life, she’d probably just poke holes in the condom and get ghost.  That girl’s got an agenda.  

Edited July 7, 2019 by Ijustwantsomechips

[GeeGolly]

One thing Jessa and Lauren have in common is the need to manipulate others, however they do it from opposite ends. I see Jessa as a mean girl bully, who makes herself feel better by making others feel worse and I see Lauren as the perpetual victim/martyr making herself feel better by dismissing others, while at the same time vying for sympathy and attention for imagined woes.

Neither makes for great mommy or wife material in my opinion, because neither can get out of their own way. What's worse is they both have married passive men who will unwittingly contribute to their behaviors in order to make life bearable.

Jessa probably says to Ben, "I need some help with these kids, you're never around. What do you do all day anyways?!".

Lauren will probably say to Josiah, as she's serving him dinner, "I've had a migraine all day and stomach issues after eating the bread you bought. And Asa wouldn't eat her tofu and green beans, but I finally got her to sleep. Here's some tatertot casserole, your favorite. I'm going to lay down in a dark room now".

[JoanArc]

10 hours ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

Thank you @Puffin. I was thinking the same thing this morning. Jessa gets a lot of credit for being such a loving and doting mother, but the bar is very low.  I don’t see much difference between the way she sees her kids and the way Jim Bob sees his kids as the personification of his virility and glory.  She annoys me to no end.  

Lauren strikes me as the type of wife who will have little use for Josiah once the baby gets here.  Until she wants another.  In another life, she’d probably just poke holes in the condom and get ghost.  That girl’s got an agenda.  

Just wait until the kids get minimal homefooled education. That might wake a few people up that Jessa ain't all that. I doubt they'll every go to any other school than the mold house kitchen table. I'd be pleasantly surprised to be wrong. I also wonder how she deal with kids that go through a non-photogenic stage.

[PradaKitty]

I think Ben will fight for his kids’ right to an education. 

[GeeGolly]

8 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

I think Ben will fight for his kids’ right to an education. 

Wasn't Ben homeschooled?

[Sew Sumi]

7 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Wasn't Ben homeschooled?

At least his family was in a co-op, and they were allowed to play team sports. A step up from the Duggars and whoever is monitoring their computer lessons these days.

[Churchhoney]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Wasn't Ben homeschooled?

yep

[lookeyloo]

Maybe Ben's co-op wasn't all that bad.  Pioneer woman homeschooled her 4 kids with the help of a co-op and the older one graduated real college and has a job and the second one is in real college.  they aren't fundie but I think they have some similar values.

[Absolom]

She may well follow the Jill Rodrigues it's all about mama school of parenting.

[Barb23]

I wonder how Lauren's mom acts when she is pregnant. Is she considered queen of the household & waited on constantly by her husband & kids? Maybe being a self centered pregnant woman is all Lauren has ever seen so she is following in her mother's footsteps.  Who knows? 

[leighdear]

Just because Lauren is self-centered, vain, tone deaf on social media, likes attention and is dramatic doesn't mean she'll automatically be a crappy mom. 

Jessa is a perfect example of that.  

[Normades]

11 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

I wonder how Lauren's mom acts when she is pregnant. Is she considered queen of the household & waited on constantly by her husband & kids? Maybe being a self centered pregnant woman is all Lauren has ever seen so she is following in her mother's footsteps.  Who knows? 

Well, we all know a self centered pregnant woman is all Josiah has ever seen!!!!

[mimionthebeach]

On 7/7/2019 at 6:56 PM, lookeyloo said:

Maybe Ben's co-op wasn't all that bad.  Pioneer woman homeschooled her 4 kids with the help of a co-op and the older one graduated real college and has a job and the second one is in real college.  they aren't fundie but I think they have some similar values.

Co-ops probably help. It also probably helped that Ree Drummond graduated from a real college (USC), herself.

(Incidently, second daughter is at University of Arkansas.)

The inadequately homeschooled doing the homeschooling is not a recipe for educational success. And while Lauren does have some real college herself, she hated it. The Duggars just hate real real education. 

[yogi2014L]

My vote is also that Lauren is going to have one hell of an adjustment to parenthood. From what I've seen of her, she is extremely dramatic, self centered and passive aggressive. I think their marriage is going to go for one hell of a ride once their 'second' child arrives. 

I feel like they resent each other already, can't wait to see how lauren deals with suddenly having to do all the child rearing during the day and middle of the night wakeups ect and I can totally see Siah saying " Sorry wimminz work LOL" as some sort of payback 

I just remember staring at my husband sleeping at 2 am while I was breastfeeding the baby and just being PISSED. ( If I woke him up, he would have helped. He was working full time though and I was on leave, so I would do the middle of the night stuff especially since I was breastfeeding)  Even as a mature adult I had a hard time shaking that resentment by the next AM even tho it was MY choice to get up every time, and I had a helpful partner.

[momma2seven]

I'm betting Lauren will have a "traumatic" delivery and will be laid up for much longer than necessary, requiring live in help. Around the time she can't milk that any longer she'll developed an extreme case of post partum so she won't lose her J'servant. Their precious rainbow second baby will be an absolute miracle, but will be one step up from a bubble baby (gotta pass her around the eleventy billion people for sweet photo ops...I mean fellowship!) Her first year of life will be full of health concerns and prayers needed, but by the grace of God they will miraculously overcome all the obstacles and trials. Lauren will make Josiah sleep in a separate bedroom until the spotlight isn't on her anymore and she needs another blessing for attention.

[Heathen]

On 7/10/2019 at 7:31 AM, mimionthebeach said:

Co-ops probably help. It also probably helped that Ree Drummond graduated from a real college (USC), herself.

(Incidently, second daughter is at University of Arkansas.)

The inadequately homeschooled doing the homeschooling is not a recipe for educational success. And while Lauren does have some real college herself, she hated it. The Duggars just hate real real education. 

Ladd Drummond also has a college education. 

The Duggars' bigger problem is laziness. Not one of the Duggar kids, as far as I can tell, inherited Jim Bob's work ethic. Yes, I know what they are now, but Jim Bob and Mullet worked hard when they were starting out. 

[Ohiopirate02]

2 minutes ago, Heathen said:

Ladd Drummond also has a college education. 

The Duggars' bigger problem is laziness. Not one of the Duggar kids, as far as I can tell, inherited Jim Bob's work ethic. Yes, I know what they are now, but Jim Bob and Mullet worked hard when they were starting out. 

It's kind of hard to have a work ethic after your parents beat you into submission and only gave you enough education to satisfy state law.  Michelle might have worked hard in the early years, but she checked out when it was time to encourage her kids to further their educations.  She was not looking to participate in any home school coop because that would have been too much work for her.  

[Heathen]

14 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

It's kind of hard to have a work ethic after your parents beat you into submission and only gave you enough education to satisfy state law.  Michelle might have worked hard in the early years, but she checked out when it was time to encourage her kids to further their educations.  She was not looking to participate in any home school coop because that would have been too much work for her.  

I'm aware of all that, but if the Duggar kids can learn to parent differently and dress differently than their parents did, they can learn to work, too. 

Mullet checked out long before it was time to educate her kids. She checked out when she had her "laundry room breakdown" and realized she could manipulate other people into doing the (literal) dirty work for her. 

[galaxychaser]

I wonder if Lauren will deliver at home or hospital! Hopefully Jilly muffin will stay away with her medical thingies.

I hope Lauren matures up a bit once she has a baby to take care of.

Jana might move in for a while...

You guys what if Lauren names the baby Annabell???

[Westiepeach]

54 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

You guys what if Lauren names the baby Annabell???

I would joyfully hold Lauren down while Joy beats her to a pulp. 

You’re welcome. 

[StaceyNotStacie]

3 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

You guys what if Lauren names the baby Annabell???

I don’t think she’s that stupid to do that. After the backlash that she got when mentioning “Asa” after Joy lost her baby, I don’t think naming her baby after Joy’s baby would go over very well. 

[Saylii]

6 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

You guys what if Lauren names the baby Annabell???

I could easily see Bella.  It continues the ABC name theme everyone thinks they’ll use and be a one-up nod towards Joy.

Bella Milagro Duggar.  I totally see it.

[Zella]

4 minutes ago, Saylii said:

I could easily see Bella.  It continues the ABC name theme everyone thinks they’ll use and be a one-up nod towards Joy.

Bella Milagro Duggar.  I totally see it.

And because none of them have ever been in the real world, they wouldn't recognize the ridicule potential for the initials BM. . . .

[Barb23]

13 hours ago, galaxychaser said:

I wonder if Lauren will deliver at home or hospital! Hopefully Jilly muffin will stay away with her medical thingies.

I'm not so sure Lauren could handle some of the things that come with a home birth mainly no pain control. I'm picturing her wanting to be THE queen bee of the delivery floor & expecting to be waited on hand & foot.  "Oh Si, I need a  pillow, water, ice chips, back rub,"  etc.Her nurse call button will not be getting a rest. 

[GeeGolly]

12 hours ago, Zella said:

And because none of them have ever been in the real world, they wouldn't recognize the ridicule potential for the initials BM. . . .

I believe Jessa once displayed a giant B and giant J next to each other in her home.

[WalrusGirl]

On 7/14/2019 at 10:45 AM, GeeGolly said:

I believe Jessa once displayed a giant B and giant J next to each other in her home.

I remember that. 🤣

[PradaKitty]

I wonder who set her straight....

[MargeGunderson]

On 7/15/2019 at 1:30 PM, PradaKitty said:

I wonder who set her straight....

Well, probably not Si. 

(Come on, I know I wasn’t the only one thinking that!)

[MamaMax]

On 7/10/2019 at 7:31 AM, mimionthebeach said:

Co-ops probably help. It also probably helped that Ree Drummond graduated from a real college (USC), herself.

(Incidently, second daughter is at University of Arkansas.)

The inadequately homeschooled doing the homeschooling is not a recipe for educational success. And while Lauren does have some real college herself, she hated it. The Duggars just hate   fear real education. 

Fixed it for ya

[kokapetl]

Pioneer Woman’s dad is/was a cardiac surgeon, and her husband’s family are worth tens of millions. There’s nothing truly rustic about them. I’m betting there’s private tutors.

Edited July 20, 2019 by kokapetl

[xwordfanatik]

10 hours ago, mynextmistake said:

I think she’s going with creatively-spelled continents. We’ve already had Asa. Since this baby is a girl, I think she’ll be Ostraylea, who will be followed by Yerup, Auntartyka, Ahfrikah, and the twins, North Uhmeryka and South Uhmeryka. I’m hoping this means they’ll stop at seven kids, but they’ll probably just switch to planets or something. 

I LOVE this!  Someone should suggest it on their Instagram.  

[galaxychaser]

Uranus? 

[Aunt Catfish]

11 hours ago, kokapetl said:

Pioneer Woman’s dad is/was a cardiac surgeon, and her husband’s family are worth tens of millions. There’s nothing truly rustic about them. I’m betting there’s private tutors.

I thought Dr. Smith (not the one on Lost In Space) was an orthopedic surgeon.  Prominent citizen in any case.

[fonfereksglen]

13 hours ago, kokapetl said:

Pioneer Woman’s dad is/was a cardiac surgeon, and her husband’s family are worth tens of millions. There’s nothing truly rustic about them. I’m betting there’s private tutors.

Her dad is a retired orthopedic surgeon.

Ree has a large home schooling section on her website, if you are interested.  She has always had a professional teacher hired by several others,  as well as having the children involved in a large coop.  Currently, Bryce is in public school.  Don't  know for sure about the younger guy.

As for money, considering the nature of ranching and the multiple owners of the Drummond properties, I suspect that Ree and her ever expanding empire is more profitable.  

As for all the Duggars, they home school for the worst reason possible....to isolate because of extreme and absurd religious beliefs.

[lookeyloo]

1 hour ago, fonfereksglen said:

As for all the Duggars, they home school for the worst reason possible....to isolate because of extreme and absurd religious beliefs.

Well, now that disappoints me.  She posted a while ago why they decided to home school the first one - she said because by the time they got her to the main road for the bus and then the bus ride to school and then back again, poor dear child was spending hours on the bus.  I guess no surprise she wasn't being honest.  Or got swayed by those absurd religious beliefs!  Which I can totally see.

[Sew Sumi]

1 hour ago, lookeyloo said:

Well, now that disappoints me.  She posted a while ago why they decided to home school the first one - she said because by the time they got her to the main road for the bus and then the bus ride to school and then back again, poor dear child was spending hours on the bus.  I guess no surprise she wasn't being honest.  Or got swayed by those absurd religious beliefs!  Which I can totally see.

Who are you talking about?

[Jynnan tonnix]

36 minutes ago, mynextmistake said:

Sattyrn. Neptoone. Murcuree. Juepittur. Urthe. Plootoh. 

No Veenys? Or Maarz ?

Edited July 21, 2019 by Jynnan tonnix

[galaxychaser]

I think they will go with a really popular name like Brooklyn or Brianna. 

[lookeyloo]

39 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Who are you talking about?

Whoops. pioneer woman. Senior moment. 

[GeeGolly]

Liesl, Friedrich, Louisa, Kurt, Brigitta, Marta or Gretl.

[mimionthebeach]

2 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

Well, now that disappoints me.  She posted a while ago why they decided to home school the first one - she said because by the time they got her to the main road for the bus and then the bus ride to school and then back again, poor dear child was spending hours on the bus.  I guess no surprise she wasn't being honest.  Or got swayed by those absurd religious beliefs!  Which I can totally see.

Nobody said the pioneer woman homeschooled for religious reasons.  That comment was about the Duggars. 

I'd heard the Drummonds homeschooled due to geographical isolation/distance to good school.

[Churchhoney]

Sleepy, Dopey, Grumpy, Sneezy, Bashful......Not sure about a Happy or a Doc. 

[lookeyloo]

1 hour ago, mimionthebeach said:

Nobody said the pioneer woman homeschooled for religious reasons.  That comment was about the Duggars. 

I'd heard the Drummonds homeschooled due to geographical isolation/distance to good school.

Yes sorry. I had a senior moment 

[stuffstuff]

On 7/19/2019 at 8:21 PM, MamaMax said:

Fixed it for ya

20 years ago I would have agreed with this. Now even if that's the case the people of this type of belief system have a ton they can throw back. It's easy enough for them to point to the generation that graduated college from 2006-2012 and snark about debt and no jobs. 

What I don't get though is JB has to know he isn't young anymore. In 10-15 years he might want to back off from some of the day-to-day aspects of the business. One of those boys will be transitioned into running the business and they've hamstringed them all as far as we've seen in terms of education, and what roles they have them do with the business.