Saylii

Well first, those are women’s glasses 😂

I agree that Jill likely went with the diagnosis SHE was given for Janessa, but it was a mix of “scare the parent into getting medical attention,” “let’s justify every test under the sun to charge back to Medicaid,” and “9 times out of 10 x means y but we don’t understand the 1 time out of 10.” 1 of my kids was born with a chronic condition that requires lifelong care. I’m not impressed with some of the doctor’s we’ve seen.

I could easily see Bella. It continues the ABC name theme everyone thinks they’ll use and be a one-up nod towards Joy. Bella Milagro Duggar. I totally see it.

There can also be physical signs of a stroke, but depending on the time lapse it could muddy the results. When it’s a drowning, it has to be definitively declared a drowning. So the coroner could have just peeked in the lungs, verified drowning was the cause of death (if she was dead before she was in the water there’d be nothing in the lungs), and done no other tests. It doesn’t matter on the death certificate what the secondary cause is in a drowning.

Bet it’s bra/bra strap. I have so many cute selfies with my kids and inevitably a boob is always hanging out.

It looks like Arkansas requires prenatal care after a c-section to be with an OB (or, at least the delivery can’t be with a licensed midwife). Either Joy dug her head in the sand and was ignoring all medical treatment in hopes of a last-ditch at home birth (a la Jill) or she did have an OB.

I think a lot of it probably depends on the gestational age of the baby when she stopped growing. If Joy had spotty prenatal care, it could have been a few weeks before the lack of heartbeat was detected. If we’re talking about a 13-15 week baby, there are still a lot of reasons a miscarriage can happen. Joy also likely didn’t have any genetic screenings, even the ones for the common chromosomal abnormalities that will almost always result in fetal death.

I really hope TLC wasn’t filming the ultrasound. I don’t think I could watch that episode.

I think the weirder thing is the speculation that Abbie wasn’t at the funeral. Unless she was very sick the morning of the funeral, I can’t see her missing it just to keep from debuting a 2-month “baby bump”. Even if they were too busy to come back for Ivy’s birth or just didn’t care, there’s no way JD goes to the funeral and she doesn’t without something being seriously wrong. Plus they didn’t have any Grandma Mary tributes, did they? Even Josiah and Lauren kept up their social media through the month of October (miscarriage was the first weekend of October), then went silent into the holiday season. I really don’t think Abbie will turn up 6-7 months pregnant. The only time that happened was when all the Smuggar stuff went down and Anna waited to announce. I can’t imagine Abbie would want to hide from the public for that long just for some weird gotcha reveal for her first child. I have to think if she’s pregnant, she’s due in Dec or Jan. (Honestly, I almost think something went wrong in their marriage very quickly. If it was just pregnancy & HG, some kind of social media presence could be kept up by JD and the sisters. This feels purposeful).

Jinger and Jeremy tried out a birthing stool when they were at that midwife’s birthing center. I remember Jeremy hopping up and down on it like a fool. Joy’s midwife might have brought one to the birth, but it did no good.

I’m sure Jeremy and Jinger are getting a run of episodes all to themselves so they can’t post anything actually interesting. Plus Jinger has whatever secret she’s hiding with her hair. Leads to a lack of content, but they still have to have the engagement to prove they deserve their own special.

Jill & Derick reminds me a lot of my cousins. Almost fundie, but not quite. Anyways, my cousin got married to his wife at 18 & 17 because they couldn’t have sex without a marriage license. She left him 20 years later because she just couldn’t stand being married to him anymore. They’ve both said they figured everything else would work out in the end because Jesus and didn’t really think past P in V. I see Jill having a similar revolution in 20 years, especially when she realizes she still has another lifetime to live basically.

Her hair probably turned orange. I’ve dyed my hair every color under the sun. It takes a lot of upkeep. IF she went to a good hairstylist, they would have bleached, put a toner on it to mask the orange, then blonde dye. It would have been a lengthy sit in the chair (6+ hours). Then she would go back every 6 week maximum to re-dye the bleached parts and bleach the roots. Minimum three to four hour sit. I’ve spent hundreds of dollars on shampoos, conditioners, masques, you name it because you have to wash it a very certain way to keep the dye in. If she just bleached it and dumped box blonde on her hair or had a “friend” do it, that’ll be gone in four weeks top. The hair will be fried, the bleached parts will turn carrot orange. There’s some evidence in the few hatless pictures that has happened. I bet TLC has hooked her up with a celebrity stylist in LA to fix it, but she’s got to get there first.

You can access Instagram from a browser now. He can have an account, upload from his phone, and technically tell the truth about not having the app downloaded.

I know that everyone is raking Jill over the coals, but if Mary really did suffer “a few health problems” before she died, drowning may have been preferable then laying as a quasi-vegetable for the next few years until the rest of the vital organs gave out. It’s still not really clear if Deanna found her quickly and if the drowning would have really mattered in the end. I had one grandmother that hung on for years and another one that passed relatively quickly. Everyone agreed that the one who passed quickly had a much higher quality of life in her later years. I think even the grandmothers themselves would have had the same sentiment.