irisheyes June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 (edited) Umm, Lauren, honey, all Josiah has done so far to be a “dad” to your “children” is provide his sperm and, maybe, get you some ice cream when you’re craving it. Maybe wait to wax poetic about his fathering abilities until you see what kind of hands on dad he really is. Also, lay off the fake tanner. Either embrace your paleness or get a suntan. Cause THAT is terrible. Edited June 17, 2019 by irisheyes 5 16 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378473
Jeanne222 June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 I see Lauren as a woman who feels she was born to play the wife role on this show and will be the one to bring in multitudes of New viewers just to see her and hear her speak! 1 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378499
EmeraldGirl June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 Oh I’m so sooo sorry, but are Josiah’s pants wrinkled strangely or does he look pretty long? 21 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378714
Sew Sumi June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 Oh man, you made me go back and look. 😯 21 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378768
Oldernowiser June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 I’m beginning to wonder if Lauren needs professional help...this is getting weird. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378799
Popular Post Marigold June 17, 2019 Popular Post Share June 17, 2019 I didn't hate Lauren before this Asa nonsense. This is absolutely bat shit crazy. Make it stop! I've had 7 miscarriages and I'm very open about them WHEN IT IS APPROPRIATE. Appropriate is the key word here. It was not appropriate in Mary's "tribute post" to mention your miscarriage, Lauren. Take a lesson from Jim Bob & Michelle (did I say that?). It makes life easier if you count living children. Make mention of deceased children, miscarriages when appropriate. I am totally annoyed with Lauren, probably because I have had so many miscarriages and don't say stupid things about the losses. I have some common sense and some class. Lauren is a true Duggar now. Self involved and no boundaries. me, me, me and more me! 11 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said: I’m beginning to wonder if Lauren needs professional help...this is getting weird. We posted at the same time. Maybe something is wrong with Lauren. She might need some help because this is really over the top. 39 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378811
galaxychaser June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 I was right! And Josiah looks more pregnant than his wife. 8 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378880
Temperance June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 42 minutes ago, galaxychaser said: I was right! And Josiah looks more pregnant than his wife. Well it's deliberate. He's trying to look pregnant. He's arching his back and sticking out his stomach with his hand on the pretend bump. It's supposed to be funny. I find it annoying, but other people probably do find it hilarious. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378900
Popular Post GeeGolly June 17, 2019 Popular Post Share June 17, 2019 I really just can't with this one. Lauren is going to be in for a rude awakening when all the attention shifts from her and her loss and her and this pregnancy, to the child she gives birth to. And her baby will be one of many and won't get that much attention from others either. Time to grow up Lauren. 25 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378923
Broken Ox June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 9 hours ago, Temperance said: I know it's supposed to be funny, but men holding their nonexistent bumps is more annoying to me than pregnant women holding their (nonexistent) bumps. I'll admit people find different things funny. Ohhhhh. I didn't catch that. I thought he was pointing at her stomach, which, with Si, I assumed was the end of a grand sweeping arm gesture affirming, "Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I have procreated." 8 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378969
BigBingerBro June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 I know she's very early, but she looks even less pregnant in this photo. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5378974
PikaScrewChu June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 2 hours ago, GeeGolly said: I really just can't with this one. Lauren is going to be in for a rude awakening when all the attention shifts from her and her loss and her and this pregnancy, to the child she gives birth to. And her baby will be one of many and won't get that much attention from others either. Time to grow up Lauren. Once she's on Pregnancy #3 and Baby #2 is born, people will have lost interest. The twins and Jason should be courting someone by that point and/or married. No1curr. I understand they wanted Josiah married off ASAP. If the Josh scandals hadn't broke, he probably would have married Marjorie as soon as she turned 18. He would have gotten married before Jinger and Joe. But they could have found someone a wee bit more palatable than Lauren. The only one that will outdo Lauren is the girl who was on the Greece missionary trip. If she is indeed courting Jason or one of the twins. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379015
libgirl2 June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 Is she going to mention "your older brother" you this child? I agree something is off with her. I don't see Anna talling like that. Maybe when this baby is born she will stop. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379016
Jynnan tonnix June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Temperance said: Well it's deliberate. He's trying to look pregnant. He's arching his back and sticking out his stomach with his hand on the pretend bump. It's supposed to be funny. I find it annoying, but other people probably do find it hilarious. I guess I have a pretty high tolerance for this sort of thing...My first thought was that it was kind of a self-deprecating reference to the fact that he has developed a bit of a pooch himself, and thought the wry look on his face was actually kind of cute. Milages do vary, though. I also think that the color on her legs might have partially been caused by reflection from her dress. That vibrant of a yellow is going to affect colors around it, and filters may have made it even more obvious. 1 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379084
Annb67 June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 11 hours ago, Lunera said: And there it is..... Oh Lauren you batshit crazy little girl. This constant reference to your balloon baby/late, heavy period/miscarriage is nuts. Get help pronto. Also, you don't look pregnant yet, you just look like you're showing off that you just ate a whole pizza by yourself...a food baby. 6 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379167
Barb23 June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Broken Ox said: Ohhhhh. I didn't catch that. I thought he was pointing at her stomach, which, with Si, I assumed was the end of a grand sweeping arm gesture affirming, "Yes, ladies and gentlemen, I have procreated." I thought the same thing. I just figured he finally realized what to do with his jazz hands . Edited June 17, 2019 by Barb23 20 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379174
ChaChaSlide June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 I’m in the recurrent loss “club” like @Marigold, and I wince at Lauren’s perseverating over her first loss, especially while pregnant with a second, seemingly viable pregnancy. I don’t know if any of y’all watch 90 Day Fiancé, but last week one of the couples featured was similar in that they were pregnant with their rainbow baby but the cloud of the first loss loomed over damn near the entire pregnancy. What I really liked is that their midwife had them write a letter to the first pregnancy, so that they could let go and enjoy the second pregnancy. Lauren needs to do something like that, she needs to let her heart fully break for the child that wasn’t so she can fully envelope the child that is. 23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379318
Broken Ox June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, ChaChaSlide said: Lauren needs to do something like that, she needs to let her heart fully break for the child that wasn’t so she can fully envelope the child that is. Agreed. But I'm concerned for her that if she does focus on this baby and find herself able to make it the priority, that she'll feel guilty for that and then double down on the narrative she's got going. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379347
Oldernowiser June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 I don’t know what would happen if something were to go wrong with this pregnancy. I don’t think she’d come out of that for a very long time, if ever. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379402
Marigold June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 Lauren has some mental health issues, which is sad because she is really young and most likely won't be able to see a therapist. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379465
Popular Post Jynnan tonnix June 17, 2019 Popular Post Share June 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, not you again said: Honestly, I think Lauren has the emotional depth of a teaspoon, to borrow a phrase from J. K. Rowling. I don't see her as capable of growing as a person at the moment. But she's young, maybe reality will smack her on the head at some point and she'll be something other than a affected, attention-whore brood mare who knows what colors to wear. I rather tend to agree. I'm not so sure that her seeming inability to move past her miscarriage is as much indicative of her needing emotional help as it is of her being a rather manipulative young girl determined to wring every last ounce of angst out of her situation and cling like a tick to the pro-life party line. 1 47 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379571
Popular Post BitterApple June 17, 2019 Popular Post Share June 17, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, not you again said: Honestly, I think Lauren has the emotional depth of a teaspoon, to borrow a phrase from J. K. Rowling. I don't see her as capable of growing as a person at the moment. But she's young, maybe reality will smack her on the head at some point and she'll be something other than a affected, attention-whore brood mare who knows what colors to wear. I do too. From day one, Lauren's always had a need to set herself apart (and above) others. From the endless proclamations about being gluten free, to being a sugar martyr and denying herself dessert while the Duggar girls indulged to nitpicking Si over his eating habits to playing the sympathy card by never letting anyone forget she had a miscarriage. It's like she enjoys making things awkward for everyone else so she can inwardly crow about her speshul snowflake status. To put it mildly, the girl's got issues. Edited June 17, 2019 by BitterApple 2 32 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5379620
GeeGolly June 17, 2019 Share June 17, 2019 (edited) What Lauren is displaying is not mental illness. @not you again, @Jynnan tonnix and @BitterApple, you 3 are spot on! Edited June 18, 2019 by GeeGolly 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5380216
madpsych78 June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 Doesn't Lauren understand that if she had carried Asa to term, she wouldn't be pregnant with this current child? 1 1 18 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5381115
Popular Post galaxygirl76 June 18, 2019 Popular Post Share June 18, 2019 22 minutes ago, madpsych78 said: Doesn't Lauren understand that if she had carried Asa to term, she wouldn't be pregnant with this current child? Pesky logic and facts have no business with this family. 15 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5381180
3 is enough June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 Oh, FFS Lauren. Give it a rest already. 3 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5381271
Vantraveller June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 On 6/17/2019 at 4:29 PM, mynextmistake said: She’s clearly having trouble coping to an extreme degree. I worry that if she doesn’t get some counseling or support to help her process her feelings about the miscarriage it will impair her ability to parent her future children in a healthy way. This. I had a full term still birth then got pregnant again fairly quickly (My daughters are only 13 months apart). When my second daughter was born I had so many issues dealing with her as I had not fully processed my loss. I spent too much time comparing them and there was too many what ifs instead of concentrating on who my daughter was. Lauren needs to move on for the sake of all the children yet to come. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5381569
farmgal4 June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 On 6/17/2019 at 10:50 AM, Marigold said: Lauren has some mental health issues, which is sad because she is really young and most likely won't be able to see a therapist. Is over-the-top-attention-seeking a mental health issue? 9 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5382621
DangerousMinds June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, farmgal4 said: Is over-the-top-attention-seeking a mental health issue? Possibly a personality disorder. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5382643
emma675 June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 Or she's just a spoiled, narcissistic brat. 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5382696
Popular Post BetyBee June 18, 2019 Popular Post Share June 18, 2019 Lauren is making a terrible mistake by focusing so much on her very early pregnancy loss. She doesn't realize what a burden she is placing on the child she's carrying. She would not be carrying this child at all if her pregnancy with "Asa" had succeeded. IMO, she should be thankful for this baby and focus on the positive. She can talk all she wants to about her sorrow over the first pregnancy, privately with her husband. It seems as if she hasn't even considered the feelings of the child she's carrying, only her own feelings. She's probably too immature to be having any children yet. I hope that the joy and love she feels for her child when he/she is born, causes her to put all of this public grieving behind her. I really do. 31 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5382729
Marigold June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 I think Lauren is being a drama queen and likes attention. But even drama queens should know there is a time and place.... However, if she is really sincerely having this much trouble handling the miscarriage, she needs to see someone. She is young and might not have the coping skills to handle it. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383127
fonfereksglen June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Marigold said: I think Lauren is being a drama queen and likes attention. But even drama queens should know there is a time and place.... However, if she is really sincerely having this much trouble handling the miscarriage, she needs to see someone. She is young and might not have the coping skills to handle it. Coping skills seem to be a lost art on young people these days. It is all drama and depression. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383135
Marigold June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said: Coping skills seem to be a lost art on young people these days. It is all drama and depression. Truth 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383197
GeeGolly June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, Marigold said: I think Lauren is being a drama queen and likes attention. But even drama queens should know there is a time and place.... However, if she is really sincerely having this much trouble handling the miscarriage, she needs to see someone. She is young and might not have the coping skills to handle it. You're right, drama and trauma are very different. Lauren's presentation is of a drama queen to me. Run of the mill, attention seeking behaviors, but not to a pathological level, just an obnoxious level, IMO. 1 1 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383260
FizzyPuff June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 On 6/17/2019 at 2:53 AM, Lunera said: And there it is..... Uh every time I see Josiah I see Josh unfortunately. On 6/17/2019 at 12:22 PM, BigBingerBro said: I know she's very early, but she looks even less pregnant in this photo. She doesn’t look pregnant at all and Josiah is standing there looking like a idiot next to her. 7 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383289
FairyDusted June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 I don't think Lauren is mentally ill, but is challenged in coping skills. As they all are probably. I do think she could use a good counselor in this situation but we all know that's never gonna happen in Duggarville. That church based health care surely doesn't cover it. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383292
Sew Sumi June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 The only "counseling" any of them will ever receive will be from their pastor. No insurance required. And no way Scamaritan pays for real counseling. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383308
Marigold June 18, 2019 Share June 18, 2019 I am NOT poking any fun at Mary's funeral, just to clarify. Can't you see Drama Lauren showing up in full black, with a regal hat and a dark veil...a Jackie O type of image. I actually think Lauren would love to do something like that. Right? 4 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383313
BigBingerBro June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 I wonder if Lauren felt somewhat cheated at Mary's funeral. Why didn't her first child get that kind of attention??? 3 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383382
tabloidlover June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said: I wonder if Lauren felt somewhat cheated at Mary's funeral. Why didn't her first child get that kind of attention??? Bingo *sadly enough 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383390
irisheyes June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 I think Lauren is just one of those people for whom everything is DRAMA! 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383496
galaxygirl76 June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, irisheyes said: I think Lauren is just one of those people for whom everything is DRAMA! I'm sure deep down she's annoyed she has to share the baby train limelight with the other pregnant women of the Clown Car family. 1 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5383554
MsJamieDornan June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 8 hours ago, Marigold said: Can't you see Drama Lauren showing up in full black, with a regal hat and I know I would.a dark veil...a Jackie O type of image. I actually think Lauren would love to do something like that. I know I would. 5 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5384067
Annb67 June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 14 hours ago, Marigold said: I am NOT poking any fun at Mary's funeral, just to clarify. Can't you see Drama Lauren showing up in full black, with a regal hat and a dark veil...a Jackie O type of image. I actually think Lauren would love to do something like that. Right? And then wailing "Oh baby/late period/white balloon Asa...take care of granny!!" 11 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5384410
galaxychaser June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 12 hours ago, galaxygirl76 said: I'm sure deep down she's annoyed she has to share the baby train limelight with the other pregnant women of the Clown Car family. If she was pregnant with twins she would be the first DIL to have twins. And Lauren would milk it for all it’s worth 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5384464
mimionthebeach June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Annb67 said: And then wailing "Oh baby/late period/white balloon Asa...take care of granny!!" What "corporeal" form does a late period take in heaven? I'm kind of assuming that the fresh body Mary gets will still resemble RL Mary, but maybe younger? (which doesn't really make sense to me and maybe I'm wrong). If Grandpa Duggar is not in heaven is he passing eternity in his old worn out body, wearing one slipper and wheeling around in an office chair? 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5384880
FizzyPuff June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 15 hours ago, hathorlive said: Can I pick a skinner body? Or is it random? Can I get a sexier one? 😉 2 hours ago, not you again said: This type of thing actually happened at my mother's funeral. A grandson's girlfriend, who had never met my mother, and had never met the extended family, showed up in a full black ensemble to include elbow-length gloves, spike heels, and a gigantic hat with veil similar to this one: She looked ridiculous at a tiny south Georgia cemetery. It didn't help that the rest of us were fairly casually dressed because there was a 3-hour ride between where the funeral was held and where she was buried. I think they missed the funeral (probably due to her preening!) But NONE of us would have worn that level of nonsense to a funeral. She looked like she had been dressed by cartoon characters. No offence to you’re mother but I respect this woman if you’re gonna go to a funeral might as well go all out. I just love when quirky people turn up to funerals though. 6 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5384917
FizzyPuff June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, not you again said: No offense taken. Unfortunately for us, she's a) still in the family, though thankfully still just a girlfriend and b) not quirky, as much as an over-the-top drama queen like Lauren. She remains that person at family gatherings who just won't shut up. She's neither intelligent nor interesting. She was not young (my family is wonky; my nephew is older than I am) and I've always thought whoever let her leave her house looking like that must hate her. My mom's death was not sudden per se and not unwelcome, due to advanced Alzheimer's, and GF made a spectacle of herself with that get-up. Well at least shes not a blood relative hey and for some reason I did picture her as young. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5385134
crazycatlady58 June 19, 2019 Share June 19, 2019 4 hours ago, mimionthebeach said: What "corporeal" form does a late period take in heaven? I'm kind of assuming that the fresh body Mary gets will still resemble RL Mary, but maybe younger? (which doesn't really make sense to me and maybe I'm wrong). If Grandpa Duggar is not in heaven is he passing eternity in his old worn out body, wearing one slipper and wheeling around in an office chair? All we know is we will have a new body in heaven, without any imperfections. I do not know what new body I will have, to me is does not matter, I will be with my Savior. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/68169-josiah-and-lauren-he-has-to-marry-somebody/page/70/#findComment-5385471
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