S07.E10: Hostile Hacienda

[Tara Ariano]

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The ladies pack for a trip to Mexico. Also: Eden reveals what Lisa Rinna said about Kim's sobriety. The ladies then discuss her shocking comments while in Mexico as Lisa Rinna lands in New York City to watch her model daughter walk at Fashion Week.

[KikiBda]

Finally got an account, I read every week!  Hello all!

 

• Rinna is a nut, she will lie but thankfully they can address things after viewing the show on blogs and reunion.
• What the heck with Erika saying 'you don't know what I deal with every night!' While crying ?
• Is the show not on next week?

[Straycat80]

I'm not sure where Punta Mita is, by Puerto Vallarta? But it looked beautiful and that house was fabulous! 

The scene with LisaV and Kyle was weird. They were talking about what Rinna said  and it was daylight and then a moment later it was suddenly dark and sunset. 

Rinna does have a big mouth, now she's on the outs again with Kyle and LisaV. This is getting old. And she seemed to be stealing her daughter's thunder at her first fashion show too. 

Doritos son is a cutie but at 2 1/2 he should be talking a little bit better than he does.

wow, the previews for the rest of the season!!! 

[chick binewski]

It is part of my journey to think Rinna is completely off her rocker.

[KenyaJ]

Delilah’s “modeling” just demonstrates how much nepotism is at play here. I don’t mind Amelia as much, but I’d be happy to never see either of them on this show anymore.

Erika’s voice grates on my nerves so much.  But her skills on the jet ski were impressive.

I feel like I’m watching Rinna’s downfall in real time, and I’m loving it. Her innocent act with Kyle in Kyle’s store was infuriating. I hope Kyle gives it to her with both barrels next week.

[FlyingEgret]

I didn't realize NY Fashion Week was for beginner models...

[rustyspigot]

12 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

wow, the previews for the rest of the season!!! 

I'M A COMPASSIONATE LOVING HUMAN BEING, YOU BITCH!

So have you heard about THE AGENCY? PK has as we was sucking up to Mo like you wouldn't believe.

The jet ski accident was a fake out. If it was Vicki from the OC she would have milked it for the rest of the season and start a scam about it.

Nepotism runway with Rinna. And she wore a lip top at Kyle's store. Enough.

I forgot Eileen existed until she showed up halfway through the episode.

Edited February 8, 2017 by rustyspigot

[poeticlicensed]

Wasn't it Eden who said Kyle is an enabler?  Not Rinna . I'm no Rinna fan, but Eden is full of shit and Doritos is a bigly shit stirrer. 

[howiveaddict]

Not interested in Eileen and her counselor.  But, that councelor's voice would put me to sleep.

5 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

Wasn't it Eden who said Kyle is an enabler?  Not Rinna . I'm no Rinna fan, but Eden is full of shit and Doritos is a bigly shit stirrer. 

I heard Rinna say it.  Eden was lied to by Rinna. I guess LisaR will say anything for a story line.  

[chick binewski]

1 minute ago, rustyspigot said:

So have you heard about THE AGENCY?

The Agency, you say? Why no. Nor do I know if Kyle is busy or if LVP works hard or if Rinna owns it. Yeesh with the repetitiveness of these folks.

[racked]

18 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

Wasn't it Eden who said Kyle is an enabler?  Not Rinna . I'm no Rinna fan, but Eden is full of shit and Doritos is a bigly shit stirrer. 

Rinna said it first, tho to give her the benefit of the doubt I don't know that she actually meant enabler, as in someone who helps Kim stay drunk. It almost sounded like she meant Kyle supports Kim unconditionally? But hard to get in Rinna's head, especially when she's in people pleasing mode. 

Dorit's babies are so freakin cute. How'd PK have anything to do with creating cute humans?

We already saw the nepotistic modeling storyline with Gigi and there's no need to watch D list version of that now. At least Gigi was sweet, Rinna's kids just seem like entitled brats. 

Edited February 8, 2017 by racked

[Snappy]

Glad Rinna is going to be called out. Fast forwarded through the wanna be model and counseling session. Love how everyone was having fun while Rinna and Eileen weren't there. Hmmm, let's see if we can figure out the variable(s) that cause the drama.

[njbchlover]

14 minutes ago, FlyingEgret said:

I didn't realize NY Fashion Week was for beginner models...

I was wondering about that myself - and also, why Rinna has a problem pronouncing "Hilfiger"....I heard her say at least twice "HilfiRger" - maybe that's a knock-off designer?

[LizDC]

Lisa Rinna's blog...

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-7/blogs/lisa-rinna/lisa-rinna-i-take-responsibility-for

So, pretty much everyone is responsible for what's happened. 

[AttackTurtle]

11 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

Wasn't it Eden who said Kyle is an enabler?  Not Rinna . I'm no Rinna fan, but Eden is full of shit and Doritos is a bigly shit stirrer. 

Rinna absolutely said everything that Eden claimed she said.   I don't think Eden is a good fit, but as soon as Rinna saw Eden intervene with Kim at the game night, she knew she had an audience to talk about Kim to. 

Depending on how Rinna's spins this, one is really going to have to question Rinna's accusations against Vanderpump last year. 

[farmgal4]

25 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I'm not sure where Punta Mita is, by Puerto Vallarta? But it looked beautiful and that house was fabulous! 

The scene with LisaV and Kyle was weird. They were talking about what Rinna said  and it was daylight and then a moment later it was suddenly dark and sunset. 

Rinna does have a big mouth, now she's on the outs again with Kyle and LisaV. This is getting old. And she seemed to be stealing her daughter's thunder at her first fashion show too. 

Doritos son is a cutie but at 2 1/2 he should be talking a little bit better than he does.

wow, the previews for the rest of the season!!! 

At 2-1/2 Jagger should be talking MUCH better than he does.  He may be one of those kids who don't have to talk, because their every wish is anticipated and granted without the child having to ask; however, it could be something much more serious than that.  He is a cute kid!

I have come to despise Rinna, and I'm thrilled that she's hanging herself AGAIN.  I cannot wait until the reunion; I hope her crazy ass goes up in flames!

[njbchlover]

29 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I'm not sure where Punta Mita is, by Puerto Vallarta? But it looked beautiful and that house was fabulous! 

The scene with LisaV and Kyle was weird. They were talking about what Rinna said  and it was daylight and then a moment later it was suddenly dark and sunset. 

Rinna does have a big mouth, now she's on the outs again with Kyle and LisaV. This is getting old. And she seemed to be stealing her daughter's thunder at her first fashion show too. 

Doritos son is a cutie but at 2 1/2 he should be talking a little bit better than he does.

wow, the previews for the rest of the season!!! 

Punta Mita is about an hour away from Puerto Vallarta - and it is beautiful.  It is becoming a very popular vacation destination, and I think there is good value in the real estate there, so good for Mauricio for opening a shop there.

Depending on the time of year they filmed, the sun can go down very quickly, so if that conversation between LVP and Kyle was, say, a total of 30 minutes, it could have started when the sun was just starting to go down, and ended with the sun being completely set.

[Straycat80]

4 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

 

Depending on the time of year they filmed, the sun can go down very quickly, so if that conversation between LVP and Kyle was, say, a total of 30 minutes, it could have started when the sun was just starting to go down, and ended with the sun being completely set.

It's the same way in Jamaica too. 

[twilightzone]

22 minutes ago, AttackTurtle said:

At 2-1/2 Jagger should be talking MUCH better than he does.  He may be one of those kids who don't have to talk, because their every wish is anticipated and granted without the child having to ask;

I don't think it helps that he is being raised by people who are paid to do so.  Neither of his parents really seem hands-on.

Edited February 8, 2017 by twilightzone

[Thumper]

I had a giggle when Kyle (or someone) described the home as a "typical Mexican home."  Yah -- you mean mansion.

[AttackTurtle]

My son didn't have much of a vocabulary at Jagger's age and even today is extremely shy at six years old. I truly feel for Dorit because as much of a space cadet as she is, she's being open about her son's development delays and I speak from experience....it sucks.  

[DeeplyShallow]

11 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

At 2-1/2 Jagger should be talking MUCH better than he does.  He may be one of those kids who don't have to talk, because their every wish is anticipated and granted without the child having to ask; however, it could be something much more serious than that.  He is a cute kid!

I have come to despise Rinna, and I'm thrilled that she's hanging herself AGAIN.  I cannot wait until the reunion; I hope her crazy ass goes up in flames!

The speech therapist suspects Apraxia- that's a serious disorder. I have a friend who's son was diagnosed several years ago. He's now 6 and still struggling with his speech. It's painful for both the child and parents.

[njbchlover]

I am feeling so torn about Erica.  On one hand, I cannot stand her voice, which is so whiny yet so monotone at the same time, her seeming to be soooo bored at so many things, her on-stage persona completely turns me off (mostly because I think she has very little true talent), her penchant for shock-value - whether it be in how she dresses or using vulgar words in her normal conversations, her need to name-drop designers, and because I don't really get her relationship with her husband.

But, on the other hand, Erica is really a gracious guest, whether it be at a casual backyard barbecue, at a gorgeous hotel and on a private yacht in Dubai, in a villa in Greece, or in a oceanfront mansion in Mexico.  She seems very relaxed in most of these situations, and seems to adapt well.  She was very gracious in her thanks to Kyle and Mauricio, and she had fun on the jet-ski and during their cocktail hour and dinner.  I also like that she dresses for comfort when flying - no high heels and uncomfortable clothes. 

She is an enigma, for sure!  

[mbaywife123]

LVP is really starting to look an aging drag queen or Nora Desmond.

No actual Kim in this episode thank goodness.

Kyle just quit talking about your sister, walk away from anyone if they bring her up in conversation.

Rinna is really self serving bitch and Eileen is boring as all get out.

Eden. Nope!

Erika is starting to become a parody of herself.

Dorit, while your children are cute please don't have anymore as they seem to have some sort genetic/birth issues.

[Bronzedog]

Damn.  I want a burrito.

[Michichick]

Rinna is a piece of crap. She knows damn well that she said all that stuff to Eden on camera, so why not just "own it" instead of acting disingenuous with Kyle. Ugh.

[DeeplyShallow]

24 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

LVP is really starting to look an aging drag queen or Nora Desmond.

No actual Kim in this episode thank goodness.

Kyle just quit talking about your sister, walk away from anyone if they bring her up in conversation.

Rinna is really self serving bitch and Eileen is boring as all get out.

Eden. Nope!

Erika is starting to become a parody of herself.

Dorit, while your children are cute please don't have anymore as they seem to have some sort genetic/birth issues.

Wow, ouch.

[mbaywife123]

12 minutes ago, Michichick said:

Rinna is a piece of crap. She knows damn well that she said all that stuff to Eden on camera, so why not just "own it" instead of acting disingenuous with Kyle. Ugh.

Rinna herself said that she will do anything for a buck. 

Dance you greedy idiot, here's some more Bravo peanuts!

[ParadoxLost]

I'm mostly annoyed at Rinna because she gave LvP the opportunity to climb back up on her pedestal of righteous indignation.  Noted that LvP feigned shock at hearing the baggie of smoothie pills story from Dorit a second time.

Rinna is working my last nerve but I think its a tad unfair to decide that Eden going after Kyle relentlessly was entirely Rinna's fault.  Rinna should have just let the whole thing go and not brought it up; and she will probably just bury herself deeper trying to justify it but Kyle and LvP were looking for an excuse to pile onto Rinna.

[ivygirl]

58 minutes ago, LizDC said:

Lisa Rinna's blog...

http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills/season-7/blogs/lisa-rinna/lisa-rinna-i-take-responsibility-for

So, pretty much everyone is responsible for what's happened. 

Wow, you weren't kidding. The title of that should be "I take responsibility except when I don't."

[WireWrap]

57 minutes ago, AttackTurtle said:

Rinna absolutely said everything that Eden claimed she said.   I don't think Eden is a good fit, but as soon as Rinna saw Eden intervene with Kim at the game night, she knew she had an audience to talk about Kim to. 

Depending on how Rinna's spins this, one is really going to have to question Rinna's accusations against Vanderpump last year. 

This is what she did to Lisa last season, no doubt about it. She says things then blames others for it. Last season, Lisa manipulated Rinna into talking about Munchausen and this season, Kim attacked her for no reason and that forced her into talking about Kim's sobriety/Kyle being an enabler and Eden took things way too seriously (even though she only repeated what Rinna told her) on her own! LOL Rinna needs to have her mouth super glued shut!  

[njbchlover]

5 minutes ago, WireWrap said:

This is what she did to Lisa last season, no doubt about it. She says things then blames others for it. Last season, Lisa manipulated Rinna into talking about Munchausen and this season, Kim attacked her for no reason and that forced her into talking about Kim's sobriety/Kyle being an enabler and Eden took things way too seriously (even though she only repeated what Rinna told her) on her own! LOL Rinna needs to have her mouth super glued shut!  

To paraphrase LVP - that would take a lot of glue!   ;-)

[mbaywife123]

12 minutes ago, DeeplyShallow said:

Wow, ouch.

DeeplyShallow, if my post offended you I am sorry, I was just typing MY thoughts.

In regard to the other women these are just MY opinions of them

After reading my post again about Dorit and her children (it did come across as harsh) I should have been more understanding and said that maybe she should seek some type of genetic testing if she wishes to have more children. Yes, even I have to pull my head out of my ass sometimes!

[izabella]

1 hour ago, rustyspigot said:

I forgot Eileen existed until she showed up halfway through the episode.

Seeing Eileen suddenly like that was jarring.  I truly hadn't thought of her even once, so it was like a bucket of cold water. 

1 hour ago, AttackTurtle said:

Rinna absolutely said everything that Eden claimed she said.  

She totally did, and I'm glad the editors spliced in clips of Rinna saying everything as Eden told LVP about it. 

1 hour ago, Thumper said:

I had a giggle when Kyle (or someone) described the home as a "typical Mexican home."  Yah -- you mean mansion.

 "Authentic" she said.  Yes, if authentic means built by an authentically wealthy person.

45 minutes ago, Michichick said:

Rinna is a piece of crap. She knows damn well that she said all that stuff to Eden on camera, so why not just "own it" instead of acting disingenuous with Kyle. Ugh.

Makes me think this whole thing is scripted. 

[Marley]

I FF all Rinna and Eileen's scenes. Snooze alert! Time to boot those boring bitces lol.

I was kind of liking Erika this episode. She seemed fun in Mexico. I would be whipping around on the jet ski too.

That house looked beautiful!

Can't wait for the craziness that's coming!

[AndySmith]

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I'm not sure where Punta Mita is, by Puerto Vallarta?

As per wiki, it is about 10 miles north of Puerto Vallarta. Though google earth says it is further than that.

[breezy424]

Gosh, first reactions.  I have to think about this more and read all your responses.

Bambi sighting.... Yay.

That house was gorgeous.  Lot's of The Agency this season.  I'm wondering if it was written into Kyle's contract.  I really don't care because I have no problem with house porn.

No Kim... Yay...but the Kim situation continues.  Boo.

Camille with LR in NY.  Kinda cool.  And they're at PJ Clarke's.  I use to work, many decades ago, right by there on Third Avenue.

I said this in last week's thread.  LR was wrong to bring up Kim's 'situation' with Eden.  Eden's excuse is no excuse.  Eden has her own set of problems.  The hugs...the bottle of 'Love'....  'Her' relationship with 'her' sister.... This isn't all on LR.  LR lit the match, wrongly, but Eden went with it....because...I think this is what she does.   And enough with the hashtags in her blogs.  Intervention please.

Dorit's son does have a problem with speech.  I hate going here because I don't think kids should be brought into 'it'.  It's not a case of a tongue problem aka annunciation problem.  It seems to be something more.  I don't lay blame on Dorit because she isn't 'involved' enough with her children as much as many think she should be.   It's 'easy' to blame parents but sometimes children have speech problems or learning disability problems that are a result of neurological problems.  Oh, and that's not saying these children less intelligent.  They usually aren't.  And many are highly intelligent.  And...many, if not most, go on to overcome these things and are highly successful.  Sorry, personal experience here.  And I'm at least glad that Dorit is getting professional help at an earlier time.  He does seems to be mostly a cute little boy.  Now,  I still can't stand PK and Dorit's so called accent but that's a different story.

[GreatKazu]

Rinna is full of shit or this whole thing is scripted. 

Jagger is adorable! I think his speech delay is due to him tryng to decide which accent to use. 

[princelina]

I have to say that I've known several children who were "late talkers" and nothing is wrong with them now!  The little boy is a toddler and his parents have him in speech therapy- if he were my child I wouldn't be putting him front and center on my tv show, but that's really all I have to say about him.

[KenyaJ]

10 minutes ago, princelina said:

I have to say that I've known several children who were "late talkers" and nothing is wrong with them now!  The little boy is a toddler and his parents have him in speech therapy- if he were my child I wouldn't be putting him front and center on my tv show, but that's really all I have to say about him.

Yeah, my dad was the smartest person I ever knew and my grandmother always used to tell me how much he worried her because he didn't really start talking until he was four. He used to joke that he just didn't have anything to say until then. In any case, it appears that Dorit is being proactive to address any potential issues, but not forcing anything. I'm not a parent, but that seems like a healthy approach to me. 

Edited February 8, 2017 by KenyaJ

[mbaywife123]

4 minutes ago, princelina said:

I have to say that I've known several children who were "late talkers" and nothing is wrong with them now!  The little boy is a toddler and his parents have him in speech therapy- if he were my child I wouldn't be putting him front and center on my tv show, but that's really all I have to say about him.

This is the last thing I will say about Dorits children EVER since I realize this is a touchy subject.

Both of her children have had issues. Her son (per his speech therapist) may have Apraxia and her daughter had to wear plastic molds on head for skull support/reformation.

If this was not shown in the episodes I would not be making any comments at all about it.

[princelina]

I agree you have every right to comment about it since she's putting it out there on her show :). I just think they are both minor issues at this point because they are both things that happen to lots of little kids with no long-term repercussions.

[Ketzel]

Rinna's blog is hilarious. Someone really needs to explain to her what the concept of "taking responsibility" actually means, because I think she has confused it with "self-justification" plus "blaming of others."

[Pete Martell]

21 minutes ago, Ketzel said:

Rinna's blog is hilarious. Someone really needs to explain to her what the concept of "taking responsibility" actually means, because I think she has confused it with "self-justification" plus "blaming of others."

She's that person who wants credit for "speaking her mind" and then fights endlessly if anyone has a problem with what she's said. 

I also see that some version of that odious "my truth" babblespeak is on one of those blog titles. I wish I could ban that...

[mbaywife123]

9 minutes ago, princelina said:

I agree you have every right to comment about it since she's putting it out there on her show :). I just think they are both minor issues at this point because they are both things that happen to lots of little kids with no long-term repercussions.

Thank You!

Once again I apologize for my original post as it was not well thought out and insensitive.

My parents had two children, my brother who had no issues whatsoever, I on the other hand had to wear shoes with a fixed brace /metal bar to sleep each night until about third grade due to a badly turned in right foot. It was horrible and I still remember it being so uncomfortable and having to call to my mom if I needed to use the restroom since I couldn't walk with the damn thing on.

[hoosiermom]

I guess there is something wrong with my thought process because I like Rinna and Eileen. It could just be old age. Who knows?

[CrinkleCutCat]

48 minutes ago, hoosiermom said:

I guess there is something wrong with my thought process because I like Rinna and Eileen. It could just be old age. Who knows?

Yes, there is something wrong with you!!! I'll tell Rinna so she can blab to Eden and tell her how close you are to....umm.... stalker territory, and Eden can EARNESTLY counsel you and, therefore, SAVE you!

Edited February 8, 2017 by CrinkleCutCat

[hoosiermom]

5 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Yes, there is something wrong with you!!! I'll tell Rinna so she can blab to Eden and tell her how close you are to....umm.... stalker territory, and Eden can EARNESTLY counsel you and, therefore, SAVE you!

Too funny! I needed a good laugh. Thanks!

[phoenix780]

Here's the real lesson: NEVER come late.  

Oh wait, maybe it's not to give it up without a contract (shout-out to Eden & Camille).

I'm loving this season, even if it's about someone who's not a cast member. Maybe that's what makes it fun- I don't have to worry about dealing with Kim and her reactions to it all.  They're all really great with talking heads, it's nice to see Vanderpump get in there and stir shit up directly. Puppet master no more!

One thing that was disturbing...did Kyle say this is the "real Mexico?" Because...no.  No it's not.

[swankie]

4 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

LVP is really starting to look an aging drag queen or Nora Desmond.

Bwaaahhhh!!!  I love it!  Lisa is starting to look like an old dowager.  It's unfortunate too because she's only in her 50's.  Maybe it's because she's married to Ken.  She seems to be picking up his mannerisms.

 

3 hours ago, ParadoxLost said:

 Rinna should have just let the whole thing go and not brought it up; and she will probably just bury herself deeper trying to justify it but Kyle and LvP were looking for an excuse to pile onto Rinna.

I don't think this is true for the simple fact that they didn't even know Rinna said those things until Eden told LisaV that she did.  I don't think Kyle and LisaV reacting to that information translates into them looking for an excuse to pile onto Rinna.  Rinna shouldn't have been shooting off at the mouth to someone who was all but a stranger at the time.  Had she gotten to know Eden better she might have been able to read her better and known not to trash Kim and Kyle to her.  What gets my dander up is the fact that Rinna doesn't have a problem with outright lying about the crap she spews.  I'm loving how the editors are quick with the replays this season.  Pretty hard for people to lie their way out of things when the camera shows the words coming right out of their mouths.  I'd like to see how Rinna is going to spin this one.