Bachelor in Paradise in the Media

[JenE4]

For those looking for a summer replacement, Chad is going to be on "Famously Single" on E!, premiering June 25.

[blackwing]

On 6/17/2017 at 11:29 AM, MsPH said:

Is it from her though? It says it's from "sources involved in Corinne's representation" whoever that means. I really hate how the media tries to mislead people with the headlines. If it didn't come from her mouth then don't put her name in front of it like it did. In any case it says she didn't object to the sexual contact, so why is she getting blamed for DeMario getting dragged? She's not actually accusing him of anything so far from what I've seen, so I don't see the point in vilifying her in order to de-vilify him. Maybe they're both just victims of their own drinking and the shows exploitative nature? If she really doesn't remember and is trying to piece together the events based on all the various stories while in the middle of a media sh*tstorm, she has every right to feel like it's a nightmare. I think she's a spoiled brat too, but I also don't think she's a heartless liar who's trying to falsely accuse someone of assault for the sake of her boyfriend. She may act like a wild child who doesn't give AF what people think, but I think it's just a front. I think she's pretty sensitive and insecure when you remove the alcohol. I mean we saw her crying in the bathroom during Nick's season when she thought she'd ruined things with the whipped cream or by going to his room. She may lead with her sexuality, but she clearly has feelings like any other human. I don't think it's that unbelievable that she really might be struggling with all this even if she doesn't think she was assaulted.

On 6/17/2017 at 7:20 PM, CheezyXpressed said:

I do think Corrine is a victim, but not of DeMario but of the company that makes trashy shows like BIP. The level of alcohol that they gave contestants and the fact that handlers/producers will try to get their talents to act up is manipulation and kind of disgusting when you think about it. Sure, these are all adults and they are here knowing that this will happen, but there's still a level of manipulation that happens here that isn't right.

It seems to me that she is indeed accusing him of rape.  She might not actually say the words "I was raped by DeMario" but all the words that she has said ("every woman's nightmare", "traumatic", etc) pretty much are saying that she is a victim because he raped her without her consent.  And I take issue with the suggestion that they are "victims of their own drinking".  I don't think you can be a victim of something that you voluntarily choose to do to yourself.  If you get fired from your job because you did nothing but browse for porn for 8 hours a day, you can't say you were a victim because of your porn addiction.  Unless these producers forced them to drink ("if you don't finish a whole bottle of wine before we start filming in 30 minutes, then we're kicking you off the show"), there's no way IMO that either of these two can claim they were victims.  As far as the "exploitative nature" of the show... again, the nature of this show is a known quantity and they voluntarily chose to enlist.

And yes, I'm sure the alcohol is unlimited, but that doesn't mean that the participants have to voluntarily imbibe until they are incoherently drunk.  I have been out of town for week long training for work before.  The trainings are always in some nice resort in a warm climate.  The alcohol and food is pretty much unlimited because it is either provided for by the resort/company, or some senior level person is picking up the tab.  I have never seen anyone get stupidly piss drunk.  At a certain point, you just know that you have to be responsible.  Just because the alcohol is there doesn't mean you have to drink it.  If the show manipulated them into this, why isn't every contestant there paired off into a Corinne/DeMario debacle?

[kalibean]

I mentioned up thread that at least one of the twins doesn't normally drink much if at all, and I only know that because the show specifically mentioned it when they showed a whimsical little whatever about her getting trashed. They clearly can say no and get plenty of camera time, because I think the twins are a snooze fest yet they keep getting cast. 

I do think there's some serious gray area about consent under the influence, especially some of the stuff we saw with Lacey (?) and Chad last year, so maybe TPTB needs to get that buttoned up in their contracts. I mean, do they let up to partially dressed third base fly and anything more intervene? What's the standard? As long as it's clear up front I guess they aren't liable? 

Dear god can you imagine being the attorney for this show??? Their legal team probably chews xanax while reviewing film. 

Edited June 19, 2017 by kalibean

[Mabinogia]

43 minutes ago, kalibean said:

Dear god can you imagine being the attorney for this show???

Ha, what a job. I can just see a lawyer sitting at his desk going over the contract and debating how many pieces of clothes have to be removed before it becomes pornographic, and how many mixed drinks vs. cans of beer constitute "unable to consent" and shaking his head saying "I went to law school for this?" hahaha

[Alapaki]

I'm a little confused because I've read in some of the more recent reports that Corrine and DiMario were in a hot tub.  I thought all of the initial reports referred to a pool.  I realize that some pools are connected to the hot tubs, and some hot tubs are actually within the outline of the pool, just separated by a wall just at water-level to make it easy to swim from one to the other.

I think the difference between a pool and hot tub in this situation is important.  

I know from experience that the difference between the air temperature and the water temperature of a hot tub can cause people to briefly pass out, especially if the person is already dehydrated and liquored up.  Here, it could have been a situation of being in the sun, not eating, and drinking liquor all day, and this incident possibly occurring later in the day or after sundown when the air temperature may have gone down.

To some extent each "eyewitness" that's being reported may be like the blindfolded folks touching a different part of an elephant and trying to describe it.  We don't really know how long Corrine and DiMario were in the water, and how much of that time was in the pool versus a hot tub.  It's possible they started out in the pool, at which some people saw Corrine as being active, and then moved to a hot tub, where someone may have seen Corrine briefly go limp.

We just don't know at this point.

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I really don't understand what Corrine is doing here, because right, wrong, or indifferent, there's little legal precedent in our system for her to get whatever justice she might be seeking. The defense will put together a four minute compilation of her history of drunk and/or provocative behavior and no one will find him guilty.  Even if he did rape her while unconscious, the defense has enough on their side to create reasonable doubt in the mind of a jury about consent,

I don't think any legal proceeding to come out of this will be criminal in nature, so it won't be a matter of reasonable doubt.  Corrine will sue the Production entities for negligence.  I also still think it's important to note that neither Corrine nor DiMario are directly attacking each other at this point (and this is after they both have legal representation).  I would not be surprised if they jointly sue the Production for negligence, or at least cooperate with each other.  

But, we'll see.  

[JenMcSnark]

45 minutes ago, Alapaki said:

I'm a little confused because I've read in some of the more recent reports that Corrine and DiMario were in a hot tub.  I thought all of the initial reports referred to a pool.  I realize that some pools are connected to the hot tubs, and some hot tubs are actually within the outline of the pool, just separated by a wall just at water-level to make it easy to swim from one to the other.

I think the difference between a pool and hot tub in this situation is important.  

I know from experience that the difference between the air temperature and the water temperature of a hot tub can cause people to briefly pass out, especially if the person is already dehydrated and liquored up.  Here, it could have been a situation of being in the sun, not eating, and drinking liquor all day, and this incident possibly occurring later in the day or after sundown when the air temperature may have gone down.

To some extent each "eyewitness" that's being reported may be like the blindfolded folks touching a different part of an elephant and trying to describe it.  We don't really know how long Corrine and DiMario were in the water, and how much of that time was in the pool versus a hot tub.  It's possible they started out in the pool, at which some people saw Corrine as being active, and then moved to a hot tub, where someone may have seen Corrine briefly go limp.

We just don't know at this point.

I don't think any legal proceeding to come out of this will be criminal in nature, so it won't be a matter of reasonable doubt.  Corrine will sue the Production entities for negligence.  I also still think it's important to note that neither Corrine nor DiMario are directly attacking each other at this point (and this is after they both have legal representation).  I would not be surprised if they jointly sue the Production for negligence, or at least cooperate with each other.  

But, we'll see.  

If I'm remembering what I read correctly, the accounts of them in the hot tub were the next day and the sources (I think there was more than one person who said this) were using this to show that the next day Corinne was still friendly/comfortable with DeMario and still flirty.  Jasmine, I believe, mentioned this as a reason why she thought they might actually become a couple despite Corinne's boyfriend.

I just realized that I have been misspelling Corinne's name the entire thread (I think).  lol  

[Jeanne222]

8 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

I know I'll hate myself tomorrow for suggesting this, but since BIP appears to be out of gas, can they do a mini Carly show?  I know I'll bitch and snark about it, but she's been a loyal cast member, and took a lot of shit.  She's earned it.  I'll just get extra drunk when Evan comes on to mitigate the yuck factor.

Actually that could work.  The Carly Show.  She has been fun to watch finding love on BIP and now being the step mom to three little boys and having an erectile specialist for a husband is something writers in Hollywood could only dream of.  Lets push it to the network and see what happens!

Great Idea!

[fib]

Lol.  If the show was smart, they could even use hours of wedding prep to fill the gaping BIP airing hole.  Just picture Carly Tristaing it up.  "OMG ITS PIIIIINNNNNNKKKKK!"

It could be truly snarktastic. 

[Stillhoping]

wow Corrines BF really looks like Nick ! If these shows continue they need to stop with the "drama plants" and stop allowing cast members with sig others.

I said from the start that I feel Corrine was drunk and out of control and having FUN..  Showing off.  Partying with 4 hunks in one day...

I think her producer buddy freaked cause it likely meant she would lise her upcoming show..  Corinne flipped cause of her bf and family and loss of show...

The reports from Jasmine and some other cast members seems to indicate this

Please no Carly show... That pair remind me of old 90s SNL skits.. "Lowered Expectations" Matchmaking service haha

[CheezyXpressed]

21 hours ago, blackwing said:

It seems to me that she is indeed accusing him of rape.  She might not actually say the words "I was raped by DeMario" but all the words that she has said ("every woman's nightmare", "traumatic", etc) pretty much are saying that she is a victim because he raped her without her consent.  And I take issue with the suggestion that they are "victims of their own drinking".  I don't think you can be a victim of something that you voluntarily choose to do to yourself.  If you get fired from your job because you did nothing but browse for porn for 8 hours a day, you can't say you were a victim because of your porn addiction.  Unless these producers forced them to drink ("if you don't finish a whole bottle of wine before we start filming in 30 minutes, then we're kicking you off the show"), there's no way IMO that either of these two can claim they were victims.  As far as the "exploitative nature" of the show... again, the nature of this show is a known quantity and they voluntarily chose to enlist.

And yes, I'm sure the alcohol is unlimited, but that doesn't mean that the participants have to voluntarily imbibe until they are incoherently drunk.  I have been out of town for week long training for work before.  The trainings are always in some nice resort in a warm climate.  The alcohol and food is pretty much unlimited because it is either provided for by the resort/company, or some senior level person is picking up the tab.  I have never seen anyone get stupidly piss drunk.  At a certain point, you just know that you have to be responsible.  Just because the alcohol is there doesn't mean you have to drink it.  If the show manipulated them into this, why isn't every contestant there paired off into a Corinne/DeMario debacle?

This is why I'm confused by her statement that she's a victim in something that's every woman's nightmare. It's been reported that she doesn't blame DeMario and says that he was drunk too, but by calling herself a victim in that sense makes DeMario look like a rapist. That's obviously a problem and probably something she didn't expect would happen, kind of like how the producers didn't expect things to go this far.

I still say that while the jury is out about her being a victim of DeMario (almost every account says she was the aggressor, so this would be very hard to prove. You can't shove your vagina in someone's face and claim to be a victim. That isn't to say that there's a problem with rape culture and whatnot, but in this specific case and after everything we've read and heard it would be pretty dangerous if the judge rules in her favour. ) she's still somewhat a victim of the manipulations of the show. And yes, the show doesn't tell them to get wasted it does encourage them to do this enough and with fame-whores they probably push them even more. The actual contestants are still responsible for their own actions, but I can't deny the fact that the producers and handlers push and manipulate them to do things for the sake of the show.

That's probably what her lawyers are going to say when they get to sue the show. As long as she doesn't go after DeMario, her case could hold a lot of weight and have her even more set in life.

[backformore]

1 hour ago, CheezyXpressed said:

This is why I'm confused by her statement that she's a victim in something that's every woman's nightmare. It's been reported that she doesn't blame DeMario and says that he was drunk too, but by calling herself a victim in that sense makes DeMario look like a rapist. That's obviously a problem and probably something she didn't expect would happen, kind of like how the producers didn't expect things to go this far.

Perhaps the "every woman's nightmare"  is that there is now a sex tape of her, that she doesn't have control over, that could easily be stolen by someone on the crew of BiP. 

[CindyBee]

In Reality Steve's latest blog today he says that the ABC investigation is over and that they found no evidence of any wrongdoing or sexual misconduct.    That what Jasmine & Raven have been saying about Corinne is backed up by the investigation.   Guess the ole saying "roll the tape" turns out to be correct in this situation.

Where that leaves Corinne and her merry band of lawyers, no idea.   Will they still sue production?  And what about DeMario? What does he do? 

Stay tune as RS also says that ABC wants to still have a summer show.  Maybe they'll gather everyone together in LA and do some "Battle of the Network Stars" comps with them, sorta like a mini Bachelor Pad.

Edited June 20, 2017 by CindyBee

[Mabinogia]

22 minutes ago, CindyBee said:

Maybe they'll gather everyone together in LA and do some "Battle of the Network Stars" comps with them, sorta like a mini Bachelor Pad.

I wouldn't say no to that. I would like them to get away from the "everyone sitting on the beach with nothing to do but drink" concept. I wouldn't mind seeing these morons embarrass themselves in silly competitions though, like that show where you ran through an obstacle course with big balls trying to knock you over.

[CindyBee]

6 minutes ago, Mabinogia said:

I wouldn't say no to that. I would like them to get away from the "everyone sitting on the beach with nothing to do but drink" concept. I wouldn't mind seeing these morons embarrass themselves in silly competitions though, like that show where you ran through an obstacle course with big balls trying to knock you over.

 

Wipeout!

Yeah that would be great too, put them on the obstacle course and let the big red balls knock them around.

RS thinks that the announcement by ABC is coming soon, maybe even today.    I think we will def know something soon as any taping will have to start soon.  At least with most of these people, no time off from jobs need to be arranged!

[Negritude]

14 hours ago, Stillhoping said:

Please no Carly show... That pair remind me of old 90s SNL skits.. "Lowered Expectations" Matchmaking service haha

Mad TV lol...that song pops into my head everytime I watch BiP.

[CindyBee]

Filming is to resume!

Guess Amanda's quest for a ring isn't over.  Raven too!

[srpturtle80]

1 minute ago, CindyBee said:

Filming is to resume!

Guess Amanda's quest for a ring isn't over.  Raven too!

I almost squealed out loud at work when I saw this. My show lives!!

[Boofish]

I hope DeMario gets enough money when he sues them that he won't need another job. And I don't even like him but this was wrong and such a serious LIE to hurl his way

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, CindyBee said:

 

Wipeout!

Yeah that would be great too, put them on the obstacle course and let the big red balls knock them around.

RS thinks that the announcement by ABC is coming soon, maybe even today.    I think we will def know something soon as any taping will have to start soon.  At least with most of these people, no time off from jobs need to be arranged!

Wipeout would be combining bad with bad. Someone has died on Wipeout.

[CheezyXpressed]

Here's their statement: [Taken from buzzfeed]

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As we previously stated, we recently became aware of allegations regarding an incident on the set of Bachelor in Paradise in Mexico. We take all such allegations seriously. The safety, security and well-being of the cast and crew is our number one concern, and we suspended filming so that the allegations could be investigated immediately and thoroughly. Our internal investigation, conducted with the assistance of an outside law firm, has now been completed. Out of respect for the privacy interests of those involved, we do not intend to release the videotape of the incident. We can say, however, that the tape does not support any charge of misconduct by a cast member. Nor does the tape show, contrary to many press reports, that the safety of any cast member was ever in jeopardy. Production on this season of Bachelor in Paradise will be resuming, and we plan to implement certain changes to the show’s policies and procedures to enhance and further ensure the safety and security of all participants.

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Today, an ABC spokesperson issued this statement: “We appreciate the swift and complete investigation by Warner Bros. into allegations of misconduct on the set of Bachelor in Paradise. Given their results, the series will resume production, and will air this summer on ABC.”

 

Taping is to resume and I think the powers to be will reduce the drinking. But this whole thing is just sad. Corrine was made to be the face of this show and got a lot of hype and all of this happened over nothing. I feel really bad about DeMario. You can't play games like this and expect people to come out of it okay. BIP and ABC will, even Corrine and her producers will probably find work in some reality show network, but DeMario will always have this label hanging over his head even though he did nothing wrong and wasn't even the aggressor.

[chocolatine]

29 minutes ago, srpturtle80 said:

I almost squealed out loud at work when I saw this. My show lives!!

I'm so happy that stupid Corinne and her stupid "BFF" producer didn't manage to take down my favorite summer show!

[CindyBee]

Just now, chocolatine said:

I'm so happy that stupid Corinne and her stupid "BFF" producer didn't manage to take down my favorite summer show!

Corinne will be fine---blleeeeech---but that producer will NEVER, EVER work in LA again.   She ought to pack her bags and move into casa Corinne in Florida and get to work pouring garage floors.

As for DeMario, I'm hoping he'll be able to get a settlement that is fair for what he has been through though I have serious doubts on that.

[waving feather]

45 minutes ago, CindyBee said:

Filming is to resume!

Guess Amanda's quest for a ring isn't over.  Raven too!

Wee~! Amanda lives to shill another day! I was actually most curious to see Raven on the show. She seemed the most desperate to find a guy. And she's not above poking fun of herself or giving outrageous sound bites. That's always entertaining.

Edited June 20, 2017 by waving feather

[Alapaki]

22 minutes ago, CheezyXpressed said:

We can say, however, that the tape does not support any charge of misconduct by a cast member. Nor does the tape show, contrary to many press reports, that the safety of any cast member was ever in jeopardy. Production on this season of Bachelor in Paradise will be resuming, and we plan to implement certain changes to the show’s policies and procedures to enhance and further ensure the safety and security of all participants.

Maybe it's because I parse these things for a living.

But nowhere in that statement does it say that no improper or non-consensual sexual contact occurred.  

If this really is a case of Corrine and/or a crew-member (or crew-members) "crying wolf", and if the video footage supports the fact that they were crying wolf, I would expect a full court press by ABC, Production and WB to force Corrine & Co. to retract their allegations or pursue legal action against them.  Surely the contracts that Corrine and/or the crew-members signed would provide Production with an avenue to do that.  If Corrine & Co. were lying, they've cost Production and the Network money, "reputation" (such as it is with this franchise) and possibly advertising revenue.  IIRC, the sued "Reality Steve" in the past for posting spoilers.  I can't see why they'd restrain themselves here.

I guess I'll have to wait and see what comes out of Corrine's "camp".  If they say "we disagree with the results of this investigation, but Corrine just wants to move on with her life and put this behind her", that will suggest that this was "crying wolf".  If they stand their ground and announce that they still intend to pursue legal recourse, that would be a different story. 

[chocolatine]

3 minutes ago, Alapaki said:

Maybe it's because I parse these things for a living.

But nowhere in that statement does it say that no improper or non-consensual sexual contact occurred.  

If this really is a case of Corrine and/or a crew-member (or crew-members) "crying wolf", and if the video footage supports the fact that they were crying wolf, I would expect a full court press by ABC, Production and WB to force Corrine & Co. to retract their allegations or pursue legal action against them.  Surely the contracts that Corrine and/or the crew-members signed would provide Production with an avenue to do that.  If Corrine & Co. were lying, they've cost Production and the Network money, "reputation" (such as it is with this franchise) and possibly advertising revenue.  IIRC, the sued "Reality Steve" in the past for posting spoilers.  I can't see why they'd restrain themselves here.

I guess I'll have to wait and see what comes out of Corrine's "camp".  If they say "we disagree with the results of this investigation, but Corrine just wants to move on with her life and put this behind her", that will suggest that this was "crying wolf".  If they stand their ground and announce that they still intend to pursue legal recourse, that would be a different story. 

Maybe that was part of a settlement between Corinne and show? They don't trash her, she goes away quietly, and they can continue production?

[ByTor]

8 minutes ago, Alapaki said:

But nowhere in that statement does it say that no improper or non-consensual sexual contact occurred.  

I think "We can say, however, that the tape does not support any charge of misconduct by a cast member."  implies just that.  They probably don't want to out & out admit to having made a sex tape. 

[hyacinth]

I am ridiculously happy about this, partly because Wells is going to give advice as a bartender, and partly because Daniel from Canada implied in an interview that he might be joining the merry cast at some point.    

I hope DeMario can come back, too.  I think that would help repair his reputation.    

[Alapaki]

1 minute ago, ByTor said:

I think "We can say, however, that the tape does not support any charge of misconduct by a cast member."  implies just that.  They probably don't want to out & out admit to having made a sex tape. 

Well, and again, I'm looking at this as a lawyer reading something that was drafted, vetted, revised, re-vetted, run up the chain of command, and then released by lawyers.

As I understand it, the allegation here is non-consensual sexual contact due to one or both of Corrine and DiMario being too drunk.  Both were on-set for the entire day, therefore any and all alcohol they consumed was presumably consumed on-set.  

The issue is not necessarily "misconduct by a cast member".  The issue would be the crew-members who either allowed Corrine and/or DiMario to get drunk, or refrained from stepping in to stop the alleged sexual contact.

For that matter, if the people providing and/or serving the alcohol at that point were the resort or resort personnel, they might not even come within the definition of "crew-member", strictly speaking.

[ByTor]

1 hour ago, CindyBee said:

Filming is to resume!

I'm not surprised.  I thought I must have missed something with all the talk of the show being cancelled, all I ever read was that it was suspended.

[RHJunkie]

41 minutes ago, Alapaki said:

Maybe it's because I parse these things for a living.

But nowhere in that statement does it say that no improper or non-consensual sexual contact occurred.  

If this really is a case of Corrine and/or a crew-member (or crew-members) "crying wolf", and if the video footage supports the fact that they were crying wolf, I would expect a full court press by ABC, Production and WB to force Corrine & Co. to retract their allegations or pursue legal action against them.  Surely the contracts that Corrine and/or the crew-members signed would provide Production with an avenue to do that.  If Corrine & Co. were lying, they've cost Production and the Network money, "reputation" (such as it is with this franchise) and possibly advertising revenue.  IIRC, the sued "Reality Steve" in the past for posting spoilers.  I can't see why they'd restrain themselves here.

I guess I'll have to wait and see what comes out of Corrine's "camp".  If they say "we disagree with the results of this investigation, but Corrine just wants to move on with her life and put this behind her", that will suggest that this was "crying wolf".  If they stand their ground and announce that they still intend to pursue legal recourse, that would be a different story. 

I wouldn't expect that their statement would refer to improper or non-consensual contact since there was never any official statement shared with the public (by any party) that ever officially acknowledged what the actual misconduct was that halted filming. Corinne won't get outed for crying wolf because the official statement released from her camp specifically premised their concerns on the fact that a complaint was filed about the incident in which the optics presented itself as something serious given that production was halted and prompted a full investigation on the matter. Corinne released her statement about being a victim and there were certainly implications but I think, like most suspected, it's very possible that those implications were based on the optics of the situation and the gossip being shared about the situation, compounded by the fact that Corinne couldn't remember the details of the night. If anyone has the likelihood of getting called out for crying wolf, it would be the producers, however, I would think that whatever happened and the level of intoxication involved was subjective enough that you probably couldn't determine one way or another if there was legitimate concern from the producer or if there were other motives that led to the complaint being filed.

[JenE4]

Hooray! Cheers to an Amazing Journey!

[Palomar]

Good news...would rather see a season of BIP instead of footage of some court case about this.  Hopefully Corinne's 15 minutes are over now and she can go back to running Daddy's million dollar business.   Wonder if DiMario will get his job back. 

[Martinigirl]

Now I want to know how much they paid Corrine to go away?

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, hyacinth said:

I am ridiculously happy about this, partly because Wells is going to give advice as a bartender, and partly because Daniel from Canada implied in an interview that he might be joining the merry cast at some point.    

I hope DeMario can come back, too.  I think that would help repair his reputation.    

I kind of hope they invite DeMario back too. However, I can see why he might not want to be there. Or they could add him to After Paradise as an occasional panelist.

[fib]

4 hours ago, CheezyXpressed said:

You can't shove your vagina in someone's face and claim to be a victim. edoesn't go after DeMario, her case could hold a lot of weight and have her even more set in life.

Well, to play devils advocate, you could if you were drugged.  But who knows what extracurriculars Corinne might take or the show might provide.  

3 hours ago, backformore said:

Perhaps the "every woman's nightmare"  is that there is now a sex tape of her, that she doesn't have control over, that could easily be stolen by someone on the crew of BiP. 

Or wikileaks. 

[Blakeston]

1 hour ago, Alapaki said:

Maybe it's because I parse these things for a living.

But nowhere in that statement does it say that no improper or non-consensual sexual contact occurred.  

If this really is a case of Corrine and/or a crew-member (or crew-members) "crying wolf", and if the video footage supports the fact that they were crying wolf, I would expect a full court press by ABC, Production and WB to force Corrine & Co. to retract their allegations or pursue legal action against them.  Surely the contracts that Corrine and/or the crew-members signed would provide Production with an avenue to do that.  If Corrine & Co. were lying, they've cost Production and the Network money, "reputation" (such as it is with this franchise) and possibly advertising revenue.  IIRC, the sued "Reality Steve" in the past for posting spoilers.  I can't see why they'd restrain themselves here.

I can believe that they'd restrain themselves here.

I suspect they want this incident to go away as quickly as possible. If they go after Corrine, it could lead to all sorts of outcry from people saying, "This woman was raped while the cameras were rolling, and the makers of the show did nothing to stop it, and now they're suing her for speaking out!"

Trying to defend themselves would be difficult without actually showing a sex tape that they filmed. And some people would take Corrine's side no matter what evidence they produced. The sooner this is out of the headlines, the easier things will be for the powers that be.

I'm very confused about the motivations of Corrine's producer friend. I've seen a lot of commenters here speculate that she wanted to help Corrine continue on with the franchise, and it might have hurt her chances to continue on with the franchise if she'd chosen to cheat on her boyfriend. But wouldn't alleging that the show allowed her to be sexually assaulted guarantee that Corrine wouldn't continue on with the franchise?

[Alapaki]

11 minutes ago, Blakeston said:

I'm very confused about the motivations of Corrine's producer friend. I've seen a lot of commenters here speculate that she wanted to help Corrine continue on with the franchise, and it might have hurt her chances to continue on with the franchise if she'd chosen to cheat on her boyfriend. But wouldn't alleging that the show allowed her to be sexually assaulted guarantee that Corrine wouldn't continue on with the franchise?

I agree that Daddy better have promised this crew-member enough money to make up for flushing his/her (presumably) chosen career down the toilet.

The only other explanation that makes sense to me is that this crew-member thought that whoever they complained to would help bury the footage and didn't expect a full-blown shut-down of production and sending of the cast home.  

[Wings]

I am thrilled, too!  Here is another article that clearly states the tape showed no danger to anyone was found.  I am curious to see how Corinne will be treated by the others.  I cannot believe any men will go near her.  

http://wqad.com/2017/06/20/producer-no-evidence-of-bachelor-in-paradise-misconduct/

Edited June 20, 2017 by wings707

[truthaboutluv]

Just now, wings707 said:

 I am excited to see how Corinne is treated by the others.  I cannot believe any men will go near her.  

Uh did you mean to say interested because excited seems a bit of an odd choice of words here. 

[Wings]

8 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

Uh did you mean to say interested because excited seems a bit of an odd choice of words here. 

Oh, good god yes!  I am excited for it not being cancelled.  Thank you! 

note to self: proof read carefully.   

[truthaboutluv]

Just now, wings707 said:

Oh, good god yes!  I am excited for it not being cancelled.  Thank you! 

note to self: proof read carefully.   

No problem. 

[vendredi3]

So the show is back on - can I just say, kudos to the producers on the brilliant marketing campaign! Hell, even NPR was reporting on this stupid show. Well played!

[ByTor]

51 minutes ago, wings707 said:

I am curious to see how Corinne will be treated by the others.

You mean she's being invited back???

[Alapaki]

1 minute ago, ByTor said:

You mean she's being invited back???

I'd like to say I can't imagine it. But we ARE talking about Mike Fleiss and Corrine here. 

Suffice to say, if they invite her back and she agrees to go back, I'll be convinced the whole thing was a PR stunt. In which case, I really hope DiMario got paid. 

[ByTor]

19 minutes ago, Alapaki said:

I'd like to say I can't imagine it. But we ARE talking about Mike Fleiss and Corrine here. 

Suffice to say, if they invite her back and she agrees to go back, I'll be convinced the whole thing was a PR stunt. In which case, I really hope DiMario got paid. 

Hmmm...I'm not so sure she'll be coming back (although agreed, you really can't put anything past these people!).  Apparently Corinne's lawyers are doing some investigating of their own:

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/corinne-olympios-lawyer-reveals-their-own-investigation-will-continue-w488962

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“It needs to be made crystal clear that production of Bachelor in Paradise was shut down because of multiple complaints received from BIP producers and crew members on the set. It was not shut down due to any complaint filed by Corinne against anyone,” Singer told Us in a statement on Tuesday, June 20. “It comes as no surprise that Warner Bros., as a result of its own internal Investigation, would state that no wrong doing had occurred. Our own investigation will continue based on multiple new witnesses coming forward revealing what they saw and heard.”

Edited June 20, 2017 by ByTor

[kalibean]

1 hour ago, wings707 said:

I am thrilled, too!  Here is another article that clearly states the tape showed no danger to anyone was found.  I am curious to see how Corinne will be treated by the others.  I cannot believe any men will go near her.  

http://wqad.com/2017/06/20/producer-no-evidence-of-bachelor-in-paradise-misconduct/

I wouldn't think they would get near her either, but you might have a little too much faith in the good judgement of these peeps! 

[Wings]

I doubt her lawyer will be able to make a case about the incident with his 'private investigation (BS).'  The tapes must be very clear for Warner Bros to move on.   I don't think either of them will be back.  

 

ETA.  Claiming he is doing a private investigation may very well be about keeping Corrine off the show if there are contractual obligations production is pushing.   

Edited June 20, 2017 by wings707

[Stillhoping]

Yay! Now...I hope they get rid of Corrine and any others who blatantly have a sig other back home

Yes the show has evolved into a fame game BUT at the very least the cast should be single and at least somewhat looking for love

I still feel that this was set in motion cause Corrine and her producer buddy wanted to clean up her rep.. Due to bf and possible future star role

Selfish fake jerk...exhibitionist games with 4 hunks on the first day.  I hope DeMario comes back and is redeemed. This was so unfair to him

[JudyObscure]

I never thought the boyfriend angle had much to do with it.   I thought Corinne probably cared a lot more about possibly not getting her very own TV show than the opinion of a fairly new boyfriend.  Corinne seems  to enjoy being the fun, wild girl who's making all the other women jealous, a steady boyfriend at this point in her life and career would just cramp her style.

I am excited to see her interact with the rest of the cast.  Will they shun her or feel sorry for her?  Will there be some good arguments?  Will she be the Josh of this season, making everyone seethe while she waltzes off with the best looking man? 

[MakeMeLaugh]

So.... giant publicity stunt everyone connected with the show was in on?