S11.E18: Vicious Lies And Broken Ties

[Cherrio]

42 minutes ago, bosawks said:

Please, please, please tell me the middle name is "Boulder"!

If I decide to do porn Aspen Boulder is totally going to be my nom de guerre.

Funny, I also thought of Boulder when I saw Aspen.    There is also Fielder (The Sopranos)

Move to the south and people add an S to the name.....Boulders.

[bosawks]

1 hour ago, The Solution said:

Please please please let this happen. Especially if Gretchen doesn't bring Slade with her. Would love to see her vindicated against these evil shrews. And then she can decimate Vicki. Victor: Gretchen. Series over. {Insert Gretchen horse laugh.}

And Lizzie has my favorite boobs of any housewife.

My favorite boob is Ken from Beverly Hills.

[psychoticstate]

12 hours ago, absolutelyido said:

But....yeah Shannon, you were totally trying to get Kelly drunk so she would embarrass herself. Don't insult our intelligence by denying it.

Exactly.  I was rolling my eyes and thinking "Shannon . . please."  

I did think Meghan had a point when she said that Kelly was confused as to why she was taking all the heat for the David comment when it came from Vicki.  I am not a fan of Kelly's but she was ganged up on, plain and simple.  When will these hos learn not to tell each other secrets? 

Normally I like Heather and her haughtiness but man, I saw the mean girl in the cafeteria on full display last night.  Yeah, she was most definitely there on the bus ride out of Dublin, suggesting that Kelly was having a psychotic break, telling Kelly she was nasty over and over and then repeating it to Meghan while holding her face in her hand.   But to say it again at the party?  I hope it is brought up at the reunion how she has labeled not only Kelly but also Tamra and Shannon as having psychotic breaks; clearly it's Heather's jam.  But then when Kelly was trying to talk to Shannon and (I hope) apologize, there was no reason whatsoever for Heather to interject and get involved.  

Heather, Tamra and Shannon really looked silly ducking around the party to avoid Vicki.  

I'd be very surprised if this is the last we see of old Vicks.  

I'm sorry that Briana has lupus but she still annoys me (although not as much this episode.)  So Ryan is "stuck" in Oklahoma?  No, he's stationed.  And he won't be living full time in the OC until his enlistment is up or unless he can get transferred to Pendelton.  I do wonder if she moved back because of her health issues, although I'm sure Oklahoma does have at least one medical facility or hospital (snark) or if she and Ryan are separated.  

Oh well, on to the reunion.

[zoeysmom]

Speaking of boobs-Vulture has an interesting description of Kelly's adjustable cleavage dress:  http://www.eonline.com/news/806087/the-real-housewives-of-orange-county-reunion-trailer-is-here-it-s-ugly

Likening Vicki to swamp gas also seem apropos.

[Mu Shu]

This show was neverVicki's.  She was the ugly duckling of the original cast who was the butt of jokes.   The editors have always shown her at her worst.    She's a washed up hag of a woman that's not even fun to laugh at anymore.    

No more bringing back old cast members .  Lizzie is a fugly hag who hen pecks her husband, and Gretchen has nothing new to offer.  She was never even a wife on the show.    I dump the swamp beast and the whackadoo, and add new cast members to Tamra, Shannon, and Heather.  If one or all need to go after the next season, just retool the whole fucking thing.  Just get Vicki off this show once and for all.

who the hell would buy shitty ass Vicki cow nail polish instead of an establish brand?  Just another money pit that will never pay off.  Idiot.  

[WireWrap]

5 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

This show was neverVicki's.  She was the ugly duckling of the original cast who was the butt of jokes.   The editors have always shown her at her worst.    She's a washed up hag of a woman that's not even fun to laugh at anymore.    

No more bringing back old cast members .  Lizzie is a fugly hag who hen pecks her husband, and Gretchen has nothing new to offer.  She was never even a wife on the show.    I dump the swamp beast and the whackadoo, and add new cast members to Tamra, Shannon, and Heather.  If one or all need to go after the next season, just retool the whole fucking thing.  Just get Vicki off this show once and for all.

who the hell would buy shitty ass Vicki cow nail polish instead of an establish brand?  Just another money pit that will never pay off.  Idiot.  

I could see them letting Vicki go while keeping Kelly but after last nights WWHL, I am not sure Andy wants Kelly back at all. I have never seen him shade a HW as bad as he did her last night, so they may keep Vicki and fire Kelly. It will be interesting to see who comes back as Full HWs next season.

[bichonblitz]

30 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

Heather, Tamra and Shannon really looked silly ducking around the party to avoid Vicki.  

I am so done with these three.  Next season won't be worth watching unless one or two of them turn on the other one. I don't even care who the chosen one is, this threesome needs to break up! And Shannon, yes, she is a liar. She totally was trying to get Kelly shitfaced. We all saw it with our own eyes.

[zoeysmom]

14 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

Exactly.  I was rolling my eyes and thinking "Shannon . . please."  

I did think Meghan had a point when she said that Kelly was confused as to why she was taking all the heat for the David comment when it came from Vicki.  I am not a fan of Kelly's but she was ganged up on, plain and simple.  When will these hos learn not to tell each other secrets? 

Normally I like Heather and her haughtiness but man, I saw the mean girl in the cafeteria on full display last night.  Yeah, she was most definitely there on the bus ride out of Dublin, suggesting that Kelly was having a psychotic break, telling Kelly she was nasty over and over and then repeating it to Meghan while holding her face in her hand.   But to say it again at the party?  I hope it is brought up at the reunion how she has labeled not only Kelly but also Tamra and Shannon as having psychotic breaks; clearly it's Heather's jam.  But then when Kelly was trying to talk to Shannon and (I hope) apologize, there was no reason whatsoever for Heather to interject and get involved.  

Heather, Tamra and Shannon really looked silly ducking around the party to avoid Vicki.  

I'd be very surprised if this is the last we see of old Vicks.  

I'm sorry that Briana has lupus but she still annoys me (although not as much this episode.)  So Ryan is "stuck" in Oklahoma?  No, he's stationed.  And he won't be living full time in the OC until his enlistment is up or unless he can get transferred to Pendelton.  I do wonder if she moved back because of her health issues, although I'm sure Oklahoma does have at least one medical facility or hospital (snark) or if she and Ryan are separated.  

Oh well, on to the reunion.

"In the End, we will not remember the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends."  Martin Luther King, Jr.  Repeated by Lisa Vanderpump after the Season 2 Reunion.

There is no gang up ever.  When you behave in a way that is indefensible, one cannot expect support.  Kelly wants to have it both ways, she wants to claim she is being ganged up on and Vicki won't support her, but when her intended targets friends speak up it is a gang up.  Whiny Kelly was complaining in Ireland when Vicki was doing her peep show she was being excluded because the group was a clique.  All I saw Shannon and Tamra do was laugh at Vicki , misbehaving.  Kelly isn't precluded from laughing, she was just upset the other women found it funny and Vicki had center stage during the dinner.

I look at it this way-if Kelly were giving a stand up performance and crossed the line, and the audience responded negatively, she would only have herself to blame.  Kelly is the proverbial turd in the punch bowl and when others don't drink the punch she blames it on a lack of ice, instead of her stench.

Vicki was pretty much warned that she was persona non grata and brought appropriate reinforcements.  Writing a letter of non-apology and delivering it 15 days after the fact shows either great hubris on her part or just a sense of entitlement.

Briana was diagnosed some time ago and I doubt her health care in So Cal is that superior to Oklahoma.  What Briana needs to "own" is the fact she has willingly for almost a year removed herself and her children from their father who was stationed state side.  Should Briana's husband stay n the USMC and he gets deployed I have zero sympathy for her since for a paycheck she removed herself and the children from his company to chase bravo dollars.  Briana's focus should be on her children being with their father rather than trying to keep Tamra and Vicki together.  Briana knows if Vicki doesn't get picked up there goes her paycheck. 

[heatherchandler]

13 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

 

Terry Dubrow bragging on his new  'sick'  house with a 21 seat movie theatre to a party guest. Ugh!!!

 

I HATE HIM.  He is so pathetic.  I think I hate him more than anyone else on this show.

[FamilyVan]

Totally missed how Andy was shading Kelly?  He seemed normal to her but annoyed at not being in on the inside joke that the callers were doing.

You know it's interesting that Vicki's defense of her comments were that she didn't make it up, it was already out there on the internet (Eddie being gay).  This is the same defense that Slade used when he called Vicki Miss Piggy, he didn't come up with this as his original content, he was only repeating what was being said out there.  Funny how Vicki is doing his same M.O.  I remember Vicki's winter party where she presented Slade with the bacon vodka and she had this whole speech about how one should never put down women on their looks.  I guess putting down their marriages is OK though?  She sure didn't like it when she was the one being insulted, but she insults others, and then sees it like she did nothing at all wrong, and is annoyed that people would want an apology from her for it!  Seriously, I don't like Gretchen and Slade at all but I hope they are watching this all now and totally LOVING this moment seeing Vicki get her comeuppance for doing the EXACT same thing she was angry at them for doing.

No old HW's should be brought back.  I think they will keep Heather, Tamra and Shannon and get a couple new people.  They need somebody sweet like an Alexis or a Lydia again.  No more vile people like Kelly.

[ilovetrashtv]

Not to be creepy, but I live in CA somewhat near Vicki & have seen her driving the Maserati recently. Who knows if it's leased, but she does still have it.

Edited November 1, 2016 by ilovetrashtv

[poeticlicensed]

Kelly was very unfun on WWHL. She has a sour look on her face the whole show. Even sitting next to Rachael Dratch wasn't helping. I'm not sure if she was pissed off or high, but I do know that Andy likes his guests to be lighthearted and fun, which she was not. 

Vicks will be back, for sure. So will Tams and Heather and Shannon. I heard Kelly has already signed on for next season. The ratings were good this season, they will all be back, except for Megan. 

I am so over Shannon talking about how strong her marriage is. Is she trying to convince us or herself. I agree that if they ever did break up, their divorce would be the shitshow to end all shitshows. 

Doesn't Kelly know that "vow renewal" is housewives code for "express lane to divorce"?  

BTW, are vow renewals really a "thing"? I am well over 50 and know a ton of married couples who have been together for decades, and I have never once been invited to a vow renewal or know anyone who had one. If you watch enough Bravo and TLC, it seems like vow renewals are pretty standard.  

Edited November 1, 2016 by poeticlicensed

[debnava]

  13 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

 

Terry Dubrow bragging on his new  'sick'  house with a 21 seat movie theatre to a party guest. Ugh!!!

 

I HATE HIM.  He is so pathetic.  I think I hate him more than anyone else on this show.

I love Terry and think he's hilarious! So what if he's a little pretencious.

[WireWrap]

14 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

"In the End, we will not remember the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends."  Martin Luther King, Jr.  Repeated by Lisa Vanderpump after the Season 2 Reunion.

There is no gang up ever.  When you behave in a way that is indefensible, one cannot expect support.  Kelly wants to have it both ways, she wants to claim she is being ganged up on and Vicki won't support her, but when her intended targets friends speak up it is a gang up.  Whiny Kelly was complaining in Ireland when Vicki was doing her peep show she was being excluded because the group was a clique.  All I saw Shannon and Tamra do was laugh at Vicki , misbehaving.  Kelly isn't precluded from laughing, she was just upset the other women found it funny and Vicki had center stage during the dinner.

I look at it this way-if Kelly were giving a stand up performance and crossed the line, and the audience responded negatively, she would only have herself to blame.  Kelly is the proverbial turd in the punch bowl and when others don't drink the punch she blames it on a lack of ice, instead of her stench.

Vicki was pretty much warned that she was persona non grata and brought appropriate reinforcements.  Writing a letter of non-apology and delivering it 15 days after the fact shows either great hubris on her part or just a sense of entitlement.

Briana was diagnosed some time ago and I doubt her health care in So Cal is that superior to Oklahoma.  What Briana needs to "own" is the fact she has willingly for almost a year removed herself and her children from their father who was stationed state side.  Should Briana's husband stay n the USMC and he gets deployed I have zero sympathy for her since for a paycheck she removed herself and the children from his company to chase bravo dollars.  Briana's focus should be on her children being with their father rather than trying to keep Tamra and Vicki together.  Briana knows if Vicki doesn't get picked up there goes her paycheck. 

She wanted to make sure it was filmed, something she called Shannon (Glamis text) out for doing! LOL

6 minutes ago, FamilyVan said:

Totally missed how Andy was shading Kelly?  He seemed normal to her but annoyed at not being in on the inside joke that the callers were doing.

You know it's interesting that Vicki's defense of her comments were that she didn't make it up, it was already out there on the internet (Eddie being gay).  This is the same defense that Slade used when he called Vicki Miss Piggy, he didn't come up with this as his original content, he was only repeating what was being said out there.  Funny how Vicki is doing his same M.O.  I remember Vicki's winter party where she presented Slade with the bacon vodka and she had this whole speech about how one should never put down women on their looks.  I guess putting down their marriages is OK though?  She sure didn't like it when she was the one being insulted, but she insults others, and then sees it like she did nothing at all wrong, and is annoyed that people would want an apology from her for it!  Seriously, I don't like Gretchen and Slade at all but I hope they are watching this all now and totally LOVING this moment seeing Vicki get her comeuppance for doing the EXACT same thing she was angry at them for doing.

No old HW's should be brought back.  I think they will keep Heather, Tamra and Shannon and get a couple new people.  They need somebody sweet like an Alexis or a Lydia again.  No more vile people like Kelly.

Well, first off, Kelly was in the second chair, not the first, even though Rachel was a late addition to the show last night and Rachel is a rather frequent guest whereas Kelly is not. Second, Rachel is not a fan of Kelly's, at all. Third, they, like all live broadcasts have a delay so screening those calls would not have been that hard to do, they could have cut them off easily before we even knew what was said, instead they allowed them to air. Fourth, the 1 game, where Rachel judged what the HWs said/did were centered around Kelly's behavior and Rachel said that Kelly said/did was wrong each time. IMO, Andy does not like Kelly at all. LOL

Gretchen seems to be close(ish) to Vicki (at least for now) and supporting Vicki/Kelly as is Lizzie. Oh, and both of them seem to love, love Kelly!

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

Is Tamra's Party The Real Housewives Of Orange County's Best One Yet?

And plenty more oh-so-burning questions from the season finale.

[debnava]

Kelly was very unfun on WWHL. She has a sour look on her face the whole show. Even sitting next to Rachael Dratch wasn't helping. I'm not sure if she was pissed off or high, but I do know that Andy likes his guests to be lighthearted and fun, which she was not. 

Vicks will be back, for sure. So will Tams and Heather and Shannon. I heard Kelly has already signed on for next season. 

I am so over Shannon talking about how string her marriage is. Is she trying to convince us or herself. I agree that if they ever did break up, their divorce would be the shitshow to end all shitshows. 

Doesn't Kelly know that "vow renewal" is housewives code for "express lane to divorce"?  

BTW, are vow renewals really a "thing"? I am well over 50 and know a ton of married couples who have been together for decades, and I have never once been invited to a vow renewal or know anyone who had one. If you watch enough Bravo and TLC, it seems like vow renewals are pretty standard.  

Can't stand Kelly and her weird facial expressions. She's the real mean girl there. Her and Vicki are a great pair... yuck!

[farmgal4]

13 hours ago, Sai said:

How cool was it when Vicki was planning her escape and Heather says all calmly "don't move".  Ha!!

Best line of the entire season IMO!

[Jel]

I'm confused -- is Shannon keeping her chin hairs on principle?

Shannon, who I used to like, is becoming one of my least favorite HWs.  Her unorthodox relationship with the truth is a major turn off for me. As are her tired, unfunny "Who me? What? Huh?" THs. Please find another schtick because this one just makes me cringe.

I find the Heather/Shannon/Tamra trio to be so mean girl that mean girls in training could watch the show as a primer on how to be your very best mean girl.   

And for all Shannon's talk about how done she is with Vicki, she sure seems to bring her up at every opportunity.  Tamra walks over and for no reason at all Shannon mentions Vicki. How about talking about something, anything else, like grown ups do?  

These ladies use their outrage, fauxtrage at the others as a way to bond with each other. It's gross.

[Giselle]

Some here have said Tamra and Shannon invited Vicki to the party. Vicki was not “invited” to the party she was given a “report to work, permission to be on the premises slip” by the producers. She finagled a screen time “party inclusion request” scene with Tamrat that neither Tamrat nor Shannon could refuse. Shannon was forced to include Vicki, had this not been an end of season party Vicki, her spawn, and her bad cop boyfriend would have never crossed Shannon’s threshold. I’m surprised Shannon didn’t change to another venue. I would have.

Vicki’s heffalump, mouth breathing daughter showed how creepy she has become and the lengths she will go to in protecting her mother by using a “friendship” to guilt someone into doing what she or Vicki wants. Despite any protestations she enjoys the easy paychecks from Bravo and Vicki. She should be with her husband wherever he is stationed and not deprive her sons from time with their father. I believe that there were/are doctors in Oklahoma who could have provided her with top notch care instead she chose to chase the money. I don’t care that she has Lupus.

I don’t give a shit about Kelly.

As I said before RHoOC is becoming like RHoNY for me. Jill Zarin’s nastiness ruined NY for me and I stopped watching for three years, now Bethany’s heavy handedness is ruining the show again for me, and the vileness of Kelly and Vicki are doing the same with OC. I don’t care to watch them, don't care about redemption, I have no interest in their lives period. I more often than not fast forward past them and don’t read their Bravo blogs. They could have a fatal accident and I would think that now maybe their families would have a chance to have a better life. I firmly believe that in the future Vicki will psychologically mess with her grandkids as they grow up and that Kelly will turn her viciousness on her daughter at some point.

I’m not even looking forward to the reunion as the hard questions will never be asked nor followed up. Their feet will never be held to the fire.

This season left me more with a “whatever” feeling than last season. There was no joy in watching what went on behind the Orange Curtain. Kelly and Vicki saw to that.

[Straycat80]

After watching WWHL last night I think Vicki and Kelly will be back next season. The poll question: who's side are you on? Vicki/Kelly or the other Ho's. It was pretty much 50-50. So I guess Vicki and Kelly do have some fans out there. 

[MaggieG]

10 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

Best line of the entire season IMO!

It really was! Vicky was trying to slither away again and Heather was having none of that.

[100PercentPain]

4 hours ago, DrivingSideways said:

Like it or not, it is Vicki's show.  She's not going anywhere.  And Kelly was the only reason this entire season wasn't watching Shannon, Heather and Tamra clink champagne glasses and blow rainbows up each other's asses.  Kelly has mental issues and Vicki is insane, but the other three are so delusional and pompous, I can't help but root for Kelly/Vicki.  And somehow Meghan became the voice of reason this season.

...

Based on social media, I have a feeling Vicki will be back next season, with Gretchen and Lizzie joining Kelly to give her backup.  I hate Gretchen but she's way more stable and calculated than Kelly, and she knows where the bodies are buried with Tamra, so maybe it's time for her to return and go head to head with Shannon/Heather.  Their fake fancy pants Mean Girls party needs to end.  

If TPTB did do something like that, it would at least make it even easier for me to be done with this trash heap. 

[islandgal140]

I didn't even remember who Lizzie was. For some reason I was confusing Lizzie for Lydia and thinking why the hell would she be hanging out with Vicki of all people. But Lydia is the little long haired elfin looking chick with the pothead mama who Ryan went off on in one the best season finales EVER!! EVER!! Lizzie is the big eyed, big lipped, big boobed, big haired, well hell big over the top everything that drove Tamra over the edge. That makes more sense, although I do get my life every time I think about Lydia telling Heather she wasn't famous enough to be on the cover of her family's magazine. Happy times. Happy times.

I'm all for a Lizzie return but I don't think I can with Gretchen, especially if that slimy Slade is still with her and they are stilllll engaged and stilllll talking about pregnancy via IVF. Nope! A thousand Nopes!  Although .... if Lizzie, Gretchen and Slade came back Tamra's head would likely explode in a barrage of 'FUs' the likes of which not even the lordt could help her so now I feel torn. 

I am not looking forward to the reunion mainly because Vicki and Kelly can't argue cogently, aren't quick on their feet or funny worth a damn so I am sure they get trampled by the witches 3. 

[HunterHunted]

Just like I had a problem with Reza calling Shahs his show, I have a problem with Vicki calling RHoOC her show. This show is only Vicki's in that her delusions, narcissism, and failure to take any accountability for her actions are the engines that drive much of the action and story. Vicki is the figurative sausage making of the RHoOC. She's the unpleasant knowledge that if you've ever eaten seafood in the U.S. that you didn't catch it was almost certainly processed by slave labor in southeast Asia. She's a horror show. However, in their last seasons Jill Zarin and Aviva Drescher drove most of the stories for RHoNY and they're gone now.

Kelly is an obnoxious belligerent asshole. She spent an entire season gaslighting her husband only to have him be the only person supporting her. There is legitimately something wrong with her. The way that she says nasty things about others and then hastily apologizes because she didn't intend to hurt people is weird. She has some strange cognitive processing issue.

It looks like Meghan is leaving this franchise, which is fine because I cannot stand to have her remain on this show if she continues to dress like she did last night. That was offensive to the eyes.

[VedaPierce]

I think Eddie got those LV pumps on ebay

[zoeysmom]

13 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Just like I had a problem with Reza calling Shahs his show, I have a problem with Vicki calling RHoOC her show. This show is only Vicki's in that her delusions, narcissism, and failure to take any accountability for her actions are the engines that drive much of the action and story. Vicki is the figurative sausage making of the RHoOC. She's the unpleasant knowledge that if you've ever eaten seafood in the U.S. that you didn't catch it was almost certainly processed by slave labor in southeast Asia. She's a horror show. However, in their last seasons Jill Zarin and Aviva Drescher drove most of the stories for RHoNY and they're gone now.

Kelly is an obnoxious belligerent asshole. She spent an entire season gaslighting her husband only to have him be the only person supporting her. There is legitimately something wrong with her. The way that she says nasty things about others and then hastily apologizes because she didn't intend to hurt people is weird. She has some strange cognitive processing issue.

It looks like Meghan is leaving this franchise, which is fine because I cannot stand to have her remain on this show if she continues to dress like she did last night. That was offensive to the eyes.

If it is anyone's show-it is Tamra's.  Sorry to even write such a sentiment.  The show revolves who is in and who is out with Tamra.  Lizzie screwed with her and she was gone, Alexis screwed with her and she was gone.  Shannon only got a second chance because she was sympathetic and Tamra listened to Andy and his opinion she brought some new life back to the show. Vicki's continued tenure is going to depend if she can get Tamra off the ties are severed pedestal.

After having Jim Edmonds on, I do believe there are probably any number of former LA Angels out there who have wives that need a job.  I would be all for Nina, at we least we know the depths of her depravity.  Heather claims to have several in the wings-I would be interested in seeing Kelly return and three newbies.  Kelly return only from the standpoint to see if she could handle it.  Anyone hired will obviously come in with an agenda.

Meghan had a short timer's attitude-nothing ventured nothing gained.  The fact she did not second Heather's motion that Kelly remove herself from "her party" was pretty telling.  Meghan did nothing to diffuse Kelly but come back around and point out the obvious.

Vicki on a witch hunt for the doctor who misdiagnosed Briana:  http://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/vicki-gunvalson-daughter-briana-culberson-diagnosed-with-lupus

[SuzWhat]

Gretchen and Slade tried to point out Vicki's hypocrisy of dating a guy who owed child support when she was so critical of Slade for the same.   Instead of Vicki seeing it she said she "hated the word hypocrisy" and  wrote a letter of recommendation for Crooks and probably also paid his back child support.   So, our Vicks is not one for self introspection.  

[MrsPatrickBateman]

2 hours ago, HumblePi said:

It looks like it might have been a dress at one time but now that she's pregnant she's using it as a top. She wore jeans under it.

I didn't notice this outfit! This baby must have sucked all of her fashion sense and her headband love! I meant this outfit, complete with fishnets and silver chunky shoes straight from the 90's.

[Teddybear]

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Tamra of all people telling anyone to stop talking about people is a universal needle scratch. All the STFU she was screaming - was she quoting scripture?  And from which one? The necronomicon- the book of the dead? 

And thank you, producers, for throwing in a bunch of scenes where she was gossiping about people! Kudos!

Wow, Eddie is a good man.  Giving her a gift for working hard in the competition, and just watching her (no ribs, Eddie?) as she screeched and swore at Vicki.  Just letting her do her thing (again).  Part of me felt bad for him that she is so nasty to others but he knew what he was getting into.  I hope she appreciates him; I don't think a lot of men could put up with her.  

I'm a little disappointed-- what's a season finale without a cyst and decease letter being thrown in someone's face?  

[jaync]

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I believe that there were/are doctors in Oklahoma who could have provided her with top notch care instead she chose to chase the money.

Yeah, if the OK doctors were good enough to perform Brianna's surgery, then I'm sure they were competent enough for her to remain in their care. Totally agree that her move back to CA was all about having access to the Bravo cameras. Also, in regards to the contractors, I'm not buying that they're the ones responsible for the floors having to be re-done four times (because fuck-ups on their part wouldn't cause the budget to double). Just more Brianna/Vicki bullshit, imo.

I have no doubt Brianna and Vicki will milk the Lupus angle for all its worth next season.

Just noticed that Tamra's gift bags had a "Judge Activ" logo. Do she and Eddie now have a line of fitness wear? Is so, props.

[HumblePi]

15 minutes ago, MrsPatrickBateman said:

I didn't notice this outfit! This baby must have sucked all of her fashion sense and her headband love! I meant this outfit, complete with fishnets and silver chunky shoes straight from the 90's.

Oh yeah!  My brain said 'no, I don't want that' and I completely forgot about its awfulness.

[JAYJAY1979]

Bringing back former housewives doesnt seem to work for the most part..unless its for a visit.

If Vicki does come back, i could see them having Gretchen/lizzie back in limited capacity.  Hoever, Lizzie was too controlled and Gretchen should never have been cast.

New blood is needed...Shannon helped reset the show in season 9...and I think another reset for season 12 is needed.  Vicki and kelly need to go....and two new women bought on...and slowly eased into the group after getting to know them....like how Erika on RHOBH didnt get inteoduced to the other women outside yolanda till the 5th or 6th episode.

[FamilyVan]

The scene with Megan and Jim in SL made it seem super obvious how Megan does not really belong on this show.  She is from SL, born and raised there, and their real home is there.  Why was she cast on the OC show?  Because that is where Jimmy lived  years ago with wife #2?  How odd to have someone on the show that does not really live there.

[Baltimore Betty]

What kind of casserole do you make for Lupus?

[Juliegirlj]

Unless my ears deceived me, when Tamra told Vicki that repeating an unsubstantiated rumor is the same as gossiping, Vicki said something along the lines of it not being "biblical" to gossip....

vicki really is a piece of crap for her behavior last season and now this season. She is a disloyal, vapid, lying grifter. 

Megyn looked like Pebbles from the Flintsones. 

[Juliegirlj]

Ohhhhh, I forgot one thing- when Vicki's new man greeted Kelly at the party he took a big long obvious stare at Kelly's boobage!! I watched it 3 times and it made me LOL !!! 

Pretty safe assumption that ANY guy interested in Vicki is a slimeball!!!!! 

[pbutler111]

I actually don't want Vicki to leave the show. I hate her like poison, and I think she's a nearly useless human being. But, even though I know it's a Waiting for Godot wish, I really want her to stick around just until she can finally, honestly admit something -- anything -- she did wrong, without equivocation, and recognize someone else's feelings and act/speak in a way that doesn't trample all over those feelings. So I'll just be standing here under this tree waiting for that to happen. Any day now. I'm sure of it.

P.S. I couldn't disagree more about Meghan's cake. My mouth was watering when they were eating it. It looked moist and fluffy and really delicious.

[pbutler111]

Ohhhhh, I forgot one thing- when Vicki's new man greeted Kelly at the party he took a big long obvious stare at Kelly's boobage!! I watched it 3 times and it made me LOL !!! 

Pretty safe assumption that ANY guy interested in Vicki is a slimeball!!!!! 

To be fair, what the hell else would anyone look at? I'm a hetero female, and I'm fairly certainly I would've been staring at them, too, albeit more in a "what the fuck is this woman thinking with those?" sort of way. She couldn't have had them any more in-your-face than if she'd worn them on her head, like Mickey Mouse ears. Frankly, all the women were a bit too boob-and-thigh for a casual daytime party.

[pbutler111]

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I believe that there were/are doctors in Oklahoma who could have provided her with top notch care instead she chose to chase the money.

Yeah, if the OK doctors were good enough to perform Brianna's surgery, then I'm sure they were competent enough for her to remain in their care. Totally agree that her move back to CA was all about having access to the Bravo cameras. Also, in regards to the contractors, I'm not buying that they're the ones responsible for the floors having to be re-done four times (because fuck-ups on their part wouldn't cause the budget to double). Just more Brianna/Vicki bullshit, imo.

I have no doubt Brianna and Vicki will milk the Lupus angle for all its worth next season.

Just noticed that Tamra's gift bags had a "Judge Activ" logo. Do she and Eddie now have a line of fitness wear? Is so, props.

I've never understand people's animosity toward Brianna. She seems honest and sensible. If I were stuck in the middle of Oklahoma, I'd be scrambling for daylight, too. There's never been any suggestions (other than by fans online) that any of her health problems are anything but genuine. Her husband is away from home a good deal of the time, leaving her with questionable health and two very energetic boys to care for, alone. In those circumstances, if my mother offered to help me come back home where I'd be in familiar surroundings with a support system around me, and the ability to earn some extra money by doing nothing more than living my life, except with cameras, I'd jump at the chance, too. I think most people would.

[zoeysmom]

Vicki using her fans to get Tamra canned? : http://www.inquisitr.com/3665637/vicki-gunvalson-says-tamra-judge-shouldve-left-rhoc-a-long-time-ago-kelly-dodd-not-sure-about-continuing/

http://www.inquisitr.com/3664336/vicki-gunvalson-exposes-tamra-judges-fake-storyline-about-her-career/

Interesting it is coming down to a Vicki vs. Tamra battle. 

[zoeysmom]

1 minute ago, pbutler111 said:

I've never understand people's animosity toward Brianna. She seems honest and sensible. If I were stuck in the middle of Oklahoma, I'd be scrambling for daylight, too. There's never been any suggestions (other than by fans online) that any of her health problems are anything but genuine. Her husband is away from home a good deal of the time, leaving her with questionable health and two very energetic boys to care for, alone. In those circumstances, if my mother offered to help me come back home where I'd be in familiar surroundings with a support system around me, and the ability to earn some extra money by doing nothing more than living my life, except with cameras, I'd jump at the chance, too. I think most people would.

Briana's husband worked weekdays in an office on OKC.  He was not deployed while they were living in OKC.   Ot would seem the time to move back home (which she did) was when he was deployed.  So it really isn't fair to her sons and it is kind of insulting to self-describe as a single mother.  She voluntarily chose to move back to mama's.  I just think they didn't count on the power of the USMC to thwart their plans. 

[psychoticstate]

3 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

"In the End, we will not remember the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends."  Martin Luther King, Jr.  Repeated by Lisa Vanderpump after the Season 2 Reunion.

There is no gang up ever.  When you behave in a way that is indefensible, one cannot expect support.  Kelly wants to have it both ways, she wants to claim she is being ganged up on and Vicki won't support her, but when her intended targets friends speak up it is a gang up.  Whiny Kelly was complaining in Ireland when Vicki was doing her peep show she was being excluded because the group was a clique.  All I saw Shannon and Tamra do was laugh at Vicki , misbehaving.  Kelly isn't precluded from laughing, she was just upset the other women found it funny and Vicki had center stage during the dinner.

I look at it this way-if Kelly were giving a stand up performance and crossed the line, and the audience responded negatively, she would only have herself to blame.  Kelly is the proverbial turd in the punch bowl and when others don't drink the punch she blames it on a lack of ice, instead of her stench.

Vicki was pretty much warned that she was persona non grata and brought appropriate reinforcements.  Writing a letter of non-apology and delivering it 15 days after the fact shows either great hubris on her part or just a sense of entitlement.

Briana was diagnosed some time ago and I doubt her health care in So Cal is that superior to Oklahoma.  What Briana needs to "own" is the fact she has willingly for almost a year removed herself and her children from their father who was stationed state side.  Should Briana's husband stay n the USMC and he gets deployed I have zero sympathy for her since for a paycheck she removed herself and the children from his company to chase bravo dollars.  Briana's focus should be on her children being with their father rather than trying to keep Tamra and Vicki together.  Briana knows if Vicki doesn't get picked up there goes her paycheck. 

I have to disagree.  I'm not defending Kelly because she really acted like an ass all season.  I think when you're sitting at dinner and everyone else is in on trying to get you wasted, it's a gang up.  (And most especially when this is someone who clearly has problems with alcohol, which has been repeated by the other women.)  Now how you respond is up to you but that's some childish, mean girl shit.  It's really no different than what was done to Gretchen during Naked Wasted other than the fact that Gretchen did drink to excess and was pawed and slobbered over by gross Ryan.  

And Kelly was being ganged up on while on the bus.  Not saying she didn't deserve some of it because she did let slip things Vicki told her but the other women weren't going after Vicki so much as Kelly.  Frankly, the entire bus trip was a hot mess. 

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, Teddybear said:

And thank you, producers, for throwing in a bunch of scenes where she was gossiping about people! Kudos!

Yes. Loved that! I need more shots of the producers refuting the crap that comes out of these women's mouths. 

 

2 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

 

Unless my ears deceived me, when Tamra told Vicki that repeating an unsubstantiated rumor is the same as gossiping, Vicki said something along the lines of it not being "biblical" to gossip....

 

She certainly did. And since Vicki is basically Jesus nailed to the cross, she would know. 

 

1 hour ago, pbutler111 said:

I've never understand people's animosity toward Brianna. She seems honest and sensible. If I were stuck in the middle of Oklahoma, I'd be scrambling for daylight, too. There's never been any suggestions (other than by fans online) that any of her health problems are anything but genuine. Her husband is away from home a good deal of the time, leaving her with questionable health and two very energetic boys to care for, alone. In those circumstances, if my mother offered to help me come back home where I'd be in familiar surroundings with a support system around me, and the ability to earn some extra money by doing nothing more than living my life, except with cameras, I'd jump at the chance, too. I think most people would.

Except, the problem is, Vicki will never really come through on any of those things. She'll promise sunshine and roses, but then she leaves you to go to work 5 minutes after you get back from the ER....and, hey, don't forget to pay the lease on that car I got you. It's due on the 12th!

I sometimes feel badly for Briana. But then I wonder why she hasn't figured it out by now. 

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[WireWrap]

I think this is about Kelly and this is why she was so upset on WWHL last night with those calls. http://www.realmrhousewife.com/2016/10/31/rhoc-blind-item-one-wife-cheating-exclusive/

[Ellee]

Hiya, hiya, all.  Someone has to tell me what this was all about.  From Realitytvgifs. 

 

[tvfanatic13]

I do too, because of the specific mention that it is a housewife from THIS season, and she is the only newbie.

[Ubiquitous]

1 hour ago, Ellee said:

Hiya, hiya, all.  Someone has to tell me what this was all about.  From Realitytvgifs. 

 

That happened a couple eps ago, in Ireland, after Kelly said something nasty about her daughter.

[jaync]

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I've never understand people's animosity toward Brianna.

That's fine, you don't have to...it's a mileage thing, big whoop.

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There's never been any suggestions (other than by fans online) that any of her health problems are anything but genuine. 

I don't recall anyone here claiming she was faking her health problems. Given her weight, I'm surprised she isn't diabetic, too.

[WireWrap]

5 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

I have to disagree.  I'm not defending Kelly because she really acted like an ass all season.  I think when you're sitting at dinner and everyone else is in on trying to get you wasted, it's a gang up.  (And most especially when this is someone who clearly has problems with alcohol, which has been repeated by the other women.)  Now how you respond is up to you but that's some childish, mean girl shit.  It's really no different than what was done to Gretchen during Naked Wasted other than the fact that Gretchen did drink to excess and was pawed and slobbered over by gross Ryan.  

And Kelly was being ganged up on while on the bus.  Not saying she didn't deserve some of it because she did let slip things Vicki told her but the other women weren't going after Vicki so much as Kelly.  Frankly, the entire bus trip was a hot mess. 

Heather offered her a shot then a glass of champs, only Heather. Then at dinner, Shannon ordered her a drink, along with ordering others the same drink and again, only Shannon did that, so I don't see any gang up. Now if Shannon, Heather AND Tamra all tried to ply Kelly with booze, then it might be seen as them trying to set her up by getting her drunk but that did not happen.

On the bus, it was Kelly mouthing off that started the whole bus ride from/to hell and she amped it up by revealing secrets about the others that Vicki told her, so again, it wasn't a gang up but HWs that had reached their limits with Kelly's nastiness. Kelly's MO is to fight dirty when her feelings get hurt or when she feels slighted, really dirty, then act surprised/claim victimhood when the others fight back. She can certainly dish it out but she can't take it when she has to face the consequences of her actions. It is interesting that neither of her "friends" thought enough of her to defend her or to even try to comfort her after the fighting quieted down, both Vicki and Meghan sat there doing/saying nothing to calm her or to try and diffuse the overall situation, nothing.

[The Solution]

2 hours ago, VedaPierce said:

I think Eddie got those LV pumps on ebay

I think they were his old shoes.