S11.E10: Shock And Roll

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, pbutler111 said:

I've never understood why people get so snarky about Briana being sick. It's my understanding that she's rather seriously ill, which I'm sure isn't helped by her lack of help from her mother and the stress of going through a move and a remodel, mostly without her husband, and with two high-energy little boys running around.

It's not that we are snarky about her illness but she is a constant complainer and coupled with her wanting to have her mother at her beckon call 24/7 is tiring. The fact that her mother is out of commission Briana can't use her for anything so therefore Vicki does not exist.  That is the perceived situation.  Briana, even in good health she is a pill.  I bet her husband helps plenty, you are only hearing her side.  Isn't Ryan on a local base awaiting discharge from the Marines?  He was able to go home every night.
 

While snarky is not the word I would use, there is an observation of her dependence on her mother and whiney behavior.

[strongoxman]

1 hour ago, pbutler111 said:

This is kind of interesting. This is what Vicki's ex, Donn, tweeted last night:

Donn Gunvalson ‏@DonnGunvalson 17h17 hours ago
This accident was a dream come true for Vicki. The producers had 2 options:
Keep her on the show forever or get sued. #RHOC

That's not really Donn--twitter profile description even says "The Parody Life."

[slitz]

15 hours ago, absolutelyido said:

If you are friends or even just co-workers with someone but know them well enough to go to their home (or vacation rental), bring them a birthday gift, and hang out at their pool, you know them well enough to go to the hospital if there is no one else there and you are the one who can get there most quickly. 

This.  I get why Meghan didn't, honestly I do.  BUT, if it were me, I would have gone and it would have been for those very reasons above.  In my opinion, it's just the right thing to do and I do remember being a bit shocked last night when Meghan stated that she wasn't going to go.  It would have been such a small thing for her to have done.  But I'm not going to crucify Meghan for not doing it either.  Yes, she and Vicki and "friendly" with each other, but they are by no means friends.  I highly doubt they talk to each other everyday or at all when not filming.

Count me in for Heather's version of camping.  I've done the rugged camping, I've done the trailers like what Tamra had arranged for (and those were a whole heck of a lot nicer than what I experienced as a kid!) and I'll take Heather's version (personal chef included) any day of the week.  Sorry, I like being comfortable even when I'm "roughing" it.  If that makes me a "princess"....well that is what my name means in Hebrew so I guess it's accurate!  LOL

Kelly's a fucking moron.  I can not believe she actually undid the strap of her helmet, claustrophobic or not.  She's beyond lucky that she didn't break her neck or worse.

I missed the very beginning so I didn't catch Shannon's explanation for why she couldn't attend Glamis.  Whether her excuse is real or not, I probably would have had the same reaction if I was her and found out that the woman who had spewed such vile vulgarity at me the last time I saw her was going to be on this trip as well.  No thank you.

[RedheadZombie]

4 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Tamra and Vicki acting as if they have never heard of Shannon's lung issues is hogwash.  They all had their moment when Shannon had to use a daily nebulizer as part of her health routine, they knew about her bronchial condition from last year, so Tamra and Vicki acting as if it was ruse to get out of going is ridiculous.

I agree.  Also, considering THs are done after the fact, and Tamra knows full well she flipped that buggy while being reckless, it was a complete bitch move to mock Meghan for choosing not to attend because of her pregnancy.

2 hours ago, dosodog said:

LOL!  You use an empty ice cream cone and fill it with mini marshmallows and chocolate pieces.  Wrap that up in foil and turn over the campfire grill occasionally.

I do wish Heather had tried to let go and just tried camping like so many of us do.  It's okay to get dirty--one of the greatest pleasures in life is that shower after camping.  Plus campfire food over a grill is fine dining in its own way.

It's like she went to New Orleans and purposely ate at Bubba Gump's Shrimp house instead of a hole in the wall that has original, local food.

Just speculating here, but I think the primary reason Heather had her meals catered is calorie and fat count.  She seems to strictly control what she eats, and wasn't about to eat hotdogs, hamburgers, and s'mores.

1 hour ago, corter20 said:

This! I don't want to excuse his "flatness", but he is a baseball player. My husband played baseball prior to joining the military and he exhibited the same flat, douchebag behavior that Jimmy does. Everyone I have met that played baseball had this arrogant, dullness to them. 

I don't think he is jumping for joy over the pregnancy, but I also don't think it a game ending play for him either. I think what we see on camera is a guy who lacks emotions and has a poor filter. His Instagram is the same exact way except with a little more affection towards Meghan. 

Edmonds was diagnosed with post-concussion syndrome near the end of his career.  Brain injuries, in general, can change the victim's behavior (and affect).  PCS, in particular, has psychological and behavioral changes in roughly half of the sufferers.  From watching him in the role of baseball announcer, Edmonds does have a very dry sense of humor, and leans toward self-deprecation.  I find him much more likable in that role, and I imagine it's because it's where he's most comfortable.

[pieinmyeye]

18 hours ago, bosawks said:

I actually think Kelly is capable of 40 gallons of vomit.....

And 40 pounds of shit.

[ElDosEquis]

2 hours ago, dosodog said:

LOL!  You use an empty ice cream cone and fill it with mini marshmallows and chocolate pieces.  Wrap that up in foil and turn over the campfire grill occasionally.

I do wish Heather had tried to let go and just tried camping like so many of us do.  It's okay to get dirty--one of the greatest pleasures in life is that shower after camping.  Plus campfire food over a grill is fine dining in its own way.

It's like she went to New Orleans and purposely ate at Bubba Gump's Shrimp house instead of a hole in the wall that has original, local food.

We would be driving home and calling first, seconds for the shower. Mom would laugh and tell us, "Whoever invented hot water was a genius!"

A sun shower is AWESOME and altho it's a challenging makes you feel like a million dollars.

Our first camping trips were fun and we ALWAYS opened them with a feast.

One year we had seafood chowder - shark, scallops, shrimp, veggies, squid and mussels!

Pleather would never go tent camping, she is a precious snowfl-----no snow flakes are beautiful, she isn't

"Look!!! Take a picture with me holding a kitche-----ah, what is thing thing?"

fucking moron.

Edited September 6, 2016 by ElDosEquis

[Beden]

2 hours ago, pbutler111 said:

Donn Gunvalson ‏@DonnGunvalson 17h17 hours ago
This accident was a dream come true for Vicki. The producers had 2 options:
Keep her on the show forever or get sued. #RHOC

Just curious; what grounds would she have to sue for? Okay, she got dumped from an ATV which she had willingly entered, was provided with some protection (helmet, seat belts, I assume some basic instruction). She's under contract to participate in group activities. She was immediately given medical aid, transported to the nearest suitable facility and treated. She also could have opted out of participating, as did Shannon and Megan.

I'm not being argumentative; I'm wondering. Okay, obviously TPTB don't want the expense and bother of a lawsuit but I'd think they still hold the trump cards here.

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That's not really Donn--twitter profile description even says "The Parody Life."

Okay, just saw this but still--I know we live in a litigious society but I don't see any real cause. And I'm not a lawyer so there you go.

Edited September 6, 2016 by Beden

[RedheadZombie]

5 minutes ago, Beden said:

Just curious; what grounds would she have to sue for? Okay, she got dumped from an ATV which she had willingly entered, was provided with some protection (helmet, seat belts, I assume some basic instruction). She's under contract to participate in group activities. She was immediately given medical aid, transported to the nearest suitable facility and treated. She also could have opted out of participating, as did Shannon and Megan.

I'm not being argumentative; I'm wondering. Okay, obviously TPTB don't want the expense and bother of a lawsuit but I'd think they still hold the trump cards here.

I'm not weighing in on whether they can sue or not, but it's a foolish decision to let someone else guess your helmet size.  Maybe Kelly's was too snug, which added to the claustrophobia that led to her attempting to loosen her helmet.

[ElDosEquis]

4 minutes ago, Beden said:

Just curious; what grounds would she have to sue for? Okay, she got dumped from an ATV which she had willingly entered, was provided with some protection (helmet, seat belts, I assume some basic instruction). She's under contract to participate in group activities. She was immediately given medical aid, transported to the nearest suitable facility and treated. She also could have opted out of participating, as did Shannon and Megan.

I'm not being argumentative; I'm wondering. Okay, obviously TPTB don't want the expense and bother of a lawsuit but I'd think they still hold the trump cards here.

For not being filmed entering the ER/hospital?

A mouthful of sand?

Megan is a bitch?

The Baja 1000 being an off road sport?

Mickey Thompson creating Off Road tires and accessories?

[motorcitymom65]

10 minutes ago, Beden said:

Just curious; what grounds would she have to sue for? Okay, she got dumped from an ATV which she had willingly entered, was provided with some protection (helmet, seat belts, I assume some basic instruction). She's under contract to participate in group activities. She was immediately given medical aid, transported to the nearest suitable facility and treated. She also could have opted out of participating, as did Shannon and Megan.

I'm not being argumentative; I'm wondering. Okay, obviously TPTB don't want the expense and bother of a lawsuit but I'd think they still hold the trump cards here.

Completely depends on the laws in California, and what type of an "employee" Vicki is considered (contract, etc.) It doesn't matter if she knew the risks and had the proper equipment. She was injured on the job pure and simple. Just like a guy who works on the line at GM. Doesn't matter if he agrees to the work and is assigned safety equipment. If he is injured doing that job, they are liable for that. Again, it depends on how Vicki's contract is classified, I would assume. 

[Carolina Girl]

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What are the odds that Vicki overplays the sympathy card and alienates everyone all over again

It appears that you may be half right, from the "next on...." previews.  It looks like both Shannon and Meghan get pounced on by the others for either not visiting Vicki in the hospital or not really caring what happened to her (couldn't determine quite what Tamra and Heather were all pissed about).  

[Former Nun]

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I'm okay with Meghan's and Jim's response. They are not friends and Vicki has treated like Meghan like shit and swept her mean girl lying behavior under the rug and then played the victim. Kelly was Vicki's new bestie, why didn't she go to the hospital with her? Her husband was there to take care of their daughter.

Kelly does like to remind us that SHE is a millionaire...not someone married to a million--probably billionaire.  They could have made one call, hired a helicopter and Kelly could be waiting by Vicki's bedside with big red lips and crude jokes.

[HunterHunted]

I think Shannon said that her doctor said she couldn't go because the sand would irritate her lungs, which is a good excuse for not riding on a quad or in the buggy with Tamra. But kind of a garbage excuse if you ended up sitting in Heather's RV drinking champs for the entire trip.

[Ubiquitous]

2 hours ago, slitz said:

I missed the very beginning so I didn't catch Shannon's explanation for why she couldn't attend Glamis.  Whether her excuse is real or not, I probably would have had the same reaction if I was her and found out that the woman who had spewed such vile vulgarity at me the last time I saw her was going to be on this trip as well.  No thank you.

Shannon said she was concerned about the sand irritating her lungs, but she should have been honest and made it clear she didn't want to be with a liar who accused her of not being a friend and a woman who goes berserk at a moment's notice.

2 hours ago, Beden said:

Just curious; what grounds would she have to sue for? Okay, she got dumped from an ATV which she had willingly entered, was provided with some protection (helmet, seat belts, I assume some basic instruction). She's under contract to participate in group activities. She was immediately given medical aid, transported to the nearest suitable facility and treated. She also could have opted out of participating, as did Shannon and Megan.

I'm not being argumentative; I'm wondering. Okay, obviously TPTB don't want the expense and bother of a lawsuit but I'd think they still hold the trump cards here.

I am pretty sure their "reality show" contract specifically states they cannot sue.

[Lisa418722]

OK, I just watched this and I don't blame Megan for not running to the hospital.  I've had coworkers in the hospital and if they are there for a few days, I will stop by and see them. However, if they are only in the ER and having testing done, visitors do NOT need to be in the ER, they only get in the way of people trying to do their job (which is trying to figure out what is wrong with the patient).   

I think Shannon's sand allergy (or whatever it was) is a bunch of bull. As much as I like Shannon, I'm glad she wasn't there.  

[Muffyn]

1 hour ago, HunterHunted said:

I think Shannon said that her doctor said she couldn't go because the sand would irritate her lungs, which is a good excuse for not riding on a quad or in the buggy with Tamra. But kind of a garbage excuse if you ended up sitting in Heather's RV drinking champs for the entire trip.

Shannon came up with the sand excuse after she heard who was going and that they would all be travelling together in a bus RV.  I don't blame her for opting out.  That bus ride would have been  miserable.  But her excuse was funny.  She just came back from  Cabo where she was frolicking on the beach.  She could have specified a problem with the dry climate.  However, she went to Palm Springs.  So she was avoiding being in a captive situation with Vicki and Kelly.  Good choice.     

[Cranky One]

I'm surprised the RV driver took Ortega Highway...especially in a RV. My parents live off of Ortega and there are always sirens going down there because of accidents. And who would want to be stuck behind that when it's one lane. My dad used to take that way with me in the car coming back from Corona sometimes when I still lived at home and worked for him out there and I hated being on that road!

And why are these women always shrieking (minus Heather)? No wonder the driver missed the turnoff.

I've peed in the desert. When ya gotta go, you gotta go. We were coming back from Santa Fe home to Texas and I made the mistake of drinking some water (I never drink when we are on a road trip because then I'll have to pee every 5 minutes).  We were basically in a ghost town. Luckily, my husband hoards fast food napkins and we had some in the truck. But, I was praying some critter wasn't going to bite me on the ass.

I don't think Meaghan needed to go sit with Vicki.

Next time I don't want to go anywhere, I'm gonna say I'm allergic to air. Next week looks interesting!

[Showthyme]

Helmets are supposed to be snug and should be fit to the rider's head. A properly fit helmet can feel too small to someone who is not accustomed to wearing one. I hope that all of the helmets had the proper certification for dune buggy riding.

That camping trip looked like a lot of fun until they took a spill.

As a patient, I would not want a coworker to come check on me. Especially, if we were not friends IRL.

[Gam2]

I don't think you have to be a special snowflake to not like camping. I went as a Girl Scout and hated it. I did like being with my friends but hated the heat, bugs, uncomfortable sleeping, etc. My dad was a career Army officer and spent many months out in the field sleeping in a cot, eating bad food, etc and would never have gone camping for a vacation. He thought it was hell on earth. The last time I camped was when I was 6 months pregnant with our second child. These were extreme circumstances because my husband and his partner were undercover narcotics agents in the military and this was the only safe way we could get away for a few days with our children, believe it or not They both slept with their guns under their sleeping bags. Never again!! Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

[zoeysmom]

2 hours ago, Beden said:

Just curious; what grounds would she have to sue for? Okay, she got dumped from an ATV which she had willingly entered, was provided with some protection (helmet, seat belts, I assume some basic instruction). She's under contract to participate in group activities. She was immediately given medical aid, transported to the nearest suitable facility and treated. She also could have opted out of participating, as did Shannon and Megan.

I'm not being argumentative; I'm wondering. Okay, obviously TPTB don't want the expense and bother of a lawsuit but I'd think they still hold the trump cards here.

Okay, just saw this but still--I know we live in a litigious society but I don't see any real cause. And I'm not a lawyer so there you go.

It is just basic tort law.  It is no different than if Tamra had Vicki in her car and they had an accident.  As a passenger you sue, the owners and drivers of both vehicles, if it is in the course of employment the employer gets sued as well.  Tamra's contract with Evolution Media clearly states they are not employees of Evolution or Bravo.  I am sure there are hold harmless clauses but tort and personal injury lawsuits reign supreme. 

I was wondering if Vicki was the agent on Tamra's liability policy.

[pbutler111]

3 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

It's not that we are snarky about her illness but she is a constant complainer and coupled with her wanting to have her mother at her beckon call 24/7 is tiring. The fact that her mother is out of commission Briana can't use her for anything so therefore Vicki does not exist.  That is the perceived situation.  Briana, even in good health she is a pill.  I bet her husband helps plenty, you are only hearing her side.  Isn't Ryan on a local base awaiting discharge from the Marines?  He was able to go home every night.
 

While snarky is not the word I would use, there is an observation of her dependence on her mother and whiney behavior.

Sorry, but I've never seen any of that.  Vicki is never any help, since she demands more attention than the boys do, so Briana would be nuts to want her around to help, let alone be at her beck and call 24/7.  And Briana and Ryan are (or were) in separate states, so I don't think Ryan was going home every night.  I just don't recognize the things you're describing as anything I've ever seen or heard discussed on the show.

[pbutler111]

44 minutes ago, Muffyn said:

Shannon came up with the sand excuse after she heard who was going and that they would all be travelling together in a bus RV.  I don't blame her for opting out.  That bus ride would have been  miserable.  But her excuse was funny.  She just came back from  Cabo where she was frolicking on the beach.  She could have specified a problem with the dry climate.  However, she went to Palm Springs.  So she was avoiding being in a captive situation with Vicki and Kelly.  Good choice.     

Next to Disneyland (or any other amusement park) that place looked like all my vacation nightmares rolled into one.  I'm with Shannon -- say you're allergic to anything, including RVs -- anything to keep you from overnighting in that deafening sand trap.

[dosodog]

Gam2, I understand.  My father's response to going camping was "Do I need to remind you of how many tours of duty I did in Korea and Vietnam".

 I used special snowflake only as an adjective to Heather's overall personality.  6 different shaped ice cubes, giant pizza oven that might get used, very nice RV but not celebrity nice.  Not because she misses the point of camping.  Kudos to her for even going.....She's not fond of 2 out of the 3 fellow passengers, but she went for it.  In her own way.  Which, we'll she tried.

Maybe a camping trip in the woods, near trails and or beaches could be planned.....

Thought I would mention this in regards to the smores cones.  My camping group has our own version of Martha Stewart.....You can use all kinds of things along with the chocolate and marshnallows.  She had chopped up Heath bars, Reeses Pieces, banana, strawberries--all kinds of goodies.

[SweetieDarling]

2 hours ago, Former Nun said:

Kelly does like to remind us that SHE is a millionaire...not someone married to a million--probably billionaire.  They could have made one call, hired a helicopter and Kelly could be waiting by Vicki's bedside with big red lips and crude jokes.

It almost seemed like she was jealous of all the attention Vicki and Tamra were getting after the accident.  She was like "I'm hurt too" then pointed to some spot near her hip. Ok, she did probably bang it, but seriously! Tamra and Vicki were legit injured, not just bruised!

[Lady Grump]

I used to enjoy RHOC for their fun, light approach. But all this, "OMG, Meghan's awful for not going to visit Vicki!" -- Um, NO. It feels too....scripted, or something. 

Look, I know all of these shows are scripted -- but sometimes the producers reach, and I'm unwilling to extend my go-go-gadet care.

[SweetieDarling]

As far as whether Meghan should have gone to the hospital, I have to agree with smores .  Vicki had to be medevaced (sp?) to a hospital 4 hrs away.  Do they let anyone other than the patient and the medical staff ride in the helicopter?  I didn't think they wanted Meghan to visit Vicki as much as they wanted someone to check on her condition and report back so they could know how bad her injuries were. Meghan was only 45 minutes away. If I were Meghan I would have gone. I would have done it for Heather and the others, not for Vicki.

[motorcitymom65]

I think that Heather handled the whole thing beautifully. She was the calm one in the aftermath from what I could see, doing everything just right. The thing is, she still had to be stunned by the near miss she and the others suffered. Even though she had the frame of mind to control her emotions, that doesn't mean that inside she wasn't a bundle of nerves, especially after it was all done. A car almost hit me on the highway yesterday and I was a bundle of nerves for hours afterwards, thinking of what could have happened to me and my son. I am sure similar thoughts were going through her head. When she called Meghan, she had no idea how bad the situation with Tamra and Vicki was. She was already in close proximity to Tamra (who had her husband and son with her), but she was worried that no one was going to be with Vicki. I think her expectation, whether it was right or wrong, was that Meghan and Shannon would want to help alleviate her concerns and go be with Vicki. I don't think she was thinking about where Vicki's purse was, or anything like that. She just thought that Vicki shouldn't be alone at that moment and assumed since the others were closer, they could take on that task, and would want to take it on. I think she was disappointed in Meghan, because she thought that Meghan would want to help, and was surprised by her very nonchalant reaction to the news. Without saying the words, it seemed like she was saying "can you go check in on her for us". I don't think it occurred to her that they wouldn't want to, even with all the shit that Vicki leveled at all of them (all of them, including Heather). Because Heather's instinct was different, she thought that their instinct would be different as well. 

I don't have a problem with Meghan not wanting to go. Certainly I agree that Vicki is reaping what she has sowed for so many years. You cannot talk the way she did to Meghan and treat her so poorly, and then expect that she is going to run to be by your side. At the same time, I can see where Heather would be disappointed in her friends if she thought they would behave differently. I am more interested in seeing Shannon's reaction next week. Meghan and Vicki have never been friends at all. Shannon and Vicki have been. 

[zoeysmom]

2 minutes ago, AnitaKnight said:

As far as whether Meghan should have gone to the hospital, I have to agree with smores .  Vicki had to be medevaced (sp?) to a hospital 4 hrs away.  Do they let anyone other than the patient and the medical staff ride in the helicopter?  I didn't think they wanted Meghan to visit Vicki as much as they wanted someone to check on her condition and report back so they could know how bad her injuries were. Meghan was only 45 minutes away. If I were Meghan I would have gone. I would have done it for Heather and the others, not for Vicki.

The hospital is two hours from the accident scene.  Should Megahn have been expected to drive 45 minutes, then drive Vicki home another two hours and drive  another two hours back to La Quinta?  No the other people should have given up the rest of their weekend driven picked up Vicki and returned to OC.  THey would have cut their vacation short by a day.

[Lady Grump]

On 9/6/2016 at 9:00 PM, zoeysmom said:

The hospital is two hours from the accident scene.  Should Megahn have been expected to drive 45 minutes, then drive Vicki home another two hours and drive  another two hours back to La Quinta?  No the other people should have given up the rest of their weekend driven picked up Vicki and returned to OC.  THey would have cut their vacation short by a day.

Agreed.

And I'll take it one step further: I'm 100% out of fucks to give for Vicki. She is a casually racist narcissist without an ounce of self-awareness. Is she alive? Good. Fine. Other than that, don't care.

Edited September 13, 2016 by Lady Grump

[SweetieDarling]

1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

It is just basic tort law.  It is no different than if Tamra had Vicki in her car and they had an accident.  As a passenger you sue, the owners and drivers of both vehicles, if it is in the course of employment the employer gets sued as well.  Tamra's contract with Evolution Media clearly states they are not employees of Evolution or Bravo.  I am sure there are hold harmless clauses but tort and personal injury lawsuits reign supreme. 

I was wondering if Vicki was the agent on Tamra's liability policy.

It might qualify as a workman's comp claim since she was injured while, technically, working?

[MatildaMoody]

I'm kind of torn on Megan thing. I really dislike her so maybe that's the bias. But I don't think anyone was asking her to sit by Vicki's bed and hold her hand. They were asking her as someone close by to check on her and provide info on her condition. 

Even if you believe Vicki was exaggerating, getting air lifted to a hospital is fucking scary and Heather, Tamra, and Kelly had no idea what her condition was. Would it have killed Megan to take an hour out of her day to find out what Vicki's status was and reassure her and Vicki's friends about when Vicki would be released or if she was going to have prolonged stay. 

For God's sake Megan spent more time than that investigating the health claims of a man she didn't know, because Justice! But she couldn't take some time to put the minds of her supposed friends at ease while they are still in shock from an accident that resulted in two people being hurt and one of them being fucking airlifted to the hospital? 

Just becuase it needs to be Said, Shut Up Megan!

Edited September 7, 2016 by MatildaMoody

[Bronzedog]

I think Vicki's kids were responsible for Vicki. And, again, Vicki was discharged after 9 hours.  Anyone who has the misfortune to have to go to the ER a few times knows that's not really that long.  Only Vicki's children could possibly get information about her condition.  Someone from the show had to have been with her.  If it was serious, they could have contacted Michael and told him he needed to get there.   I don't see the purpose of a castmate Vicki hasn't even been nice to going.

[SweetieDarling]

15 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

The hospital is two hours from the accident scene.  Should Megahn have been expected to drive 45 minutes, then drive Vicki home another two hours and drive  another two hours back to La Quinta?  No the other people should have given up the rest of their weekend driven picked up Vicki and returned to OC.  THey would have cut their vacation short by a day.

I don't think they wanted Meghan to stay with Vicki, or comfort her or bring her home or even make her casseroles. They just wanted to know how bad the injuries were. They had no way of knowing how bad it was or wasn't.  Even if it was to say they're running scans and tests, it's going to be 9hrs before they know what's what. I don't think they wanted her to stay the whole time and report back with the final diagnosis.  If Vicki's own children can't be bothered to pick her up and bring her home, that's her own damned fault.

[biakbiak]

20 minutes ago, AnitaKnight said:

I don't think they wanted Meghan to stay with Vicki, or comfort her or bring her home or even make her casseroles. They just wanted to know how bad the injuries were. They had no way of knowing how bad it was or wasn't.  Even if it was to say they're running scans and tests, it's going to be 9hrs before they know what's what. I don't think they wanted her to stay the whole time and report back with the final diagnosis.  If Vicki's own children can't be bothered to pick her up and bring her home, that's her own damned fault.

The hospital is not going to be giving out that information to a non family member. Hell nowadays it's often difficult to get that information even if you are a family member.

[KLovestoShop]

These idiots are so stupid. And the producers who thought up this Glamis crap should be fired. 

I have to comment about Shannon and her house sale.  This was supposedly her dream house, so why sell?  Are they in financial trouble?   And , when you put your house on the market, don't you have a plan for another house?  If she's selling with most of her furniture, then what's the big freaking deal with packing in 13 days?  There are such things as movers who will pack everything up in a day or two. 

If I were on that trip, I would have packed everything up and left the place. Why didn't Heather and Kelly do that?  Why were they just sitting there in the RV, drinking.  

[What In The]

I think the real juicy stuff is yet to come. This episode might get to seem like kids stuff compared to what's to come.

[motorcitymom65]

20 minutes ago, KLovestoShop said:

These idiots are so stupid. And the producers who thought up this Glamis crap should be fired. 

I have to comment about Shannon and her house sale.  This was supposedly her dream house, so why sell?  Are they in financial trouble?   And , when you put your house on the market, don't you have a plan for another house?  If she's selling with most of her furniture, then what's the big freaking deal with packing in 13 days?  There are such things as movers who will pack everything up in a day or two. 

If I were on that trip, I would have packed everything up and left the place. Why didn't Heather and Kelly do that?  Why were they just sitting there in the RV, drinking.  

I don't think they wanted to leave Tamra. When they were making the phone calls, they didn't know Tamra's status either. Tamra had her kids there as well. Heather mentioned on Twitter that they were tending to her kids, and of course both Heather and Kelly had a child there as well. I just think that Heather is a problem solver. She thought that they would stay with Tamra, and that Shannon and Meghan could check in on Vicki since they were the closest to her. 

I agree with another post that the real drama is going to go down next week. Going into this season I assumed that Shannon would get the "3rd year edit" and think it is going to start next week. 

Edited September 7, 2016 by motorcitymom65

[Almost 3000]

1 hour ago, dosodog said:

Gam2, I understand.  My father's response to going camping was "Do I need to remind you of how many tours of duty I did in Korea and Vietnam".

 I used special snowflake only as an adjective to Heather's overall personality.  6 different shaped ice cubes, giant pizza oven that might get used, very nice RV but not celebrity nice.  Not because she misses the point of camping.  Kudos to her for even going.....She's not fond of 2 out of the 3 fellow passengers, but she went for it.  In her own way.  Which, we'll she tried.

Maybe a camping trip in the woods, near trails and or beaches could be planned.....

Thought I would mention this in regards to the smores cones.  My camping group has our own version of Martha Stewart.....You can use all kinds of things along with the chocolate and marshnallows.  She had chopped up Heath bars, Reeses Pieces, banana, strawberries--all kinds of goodies.

I have to ask...Doesn't the melted stuff drip out around the cone even thought its wrapped in foil? Does the cone get soggy or burnt?

The cone actually sounds better than a graham cracker but I'm one of the few that was never fond of 'smores.

oh and Glamis sounds awful so I give Heather props for going and including her son. Poor Eddie, what a birthday let down that must have been but at least I can see that Tamra's family would have enjoyed if not for the accident. I'll even admit to being amused by Tamra's personalized planters other than that Glamis would be my personal hell on earth.

[yourmomiseasy]

2 hours ago, pbutler111 said:

Next to Disneyland (or any other amusement park) that place looked like all my vacation nightmares rolled into one.  I'm with Shannon -- say you're allergic to anything, including RVs -- anything to keep you from overnighting in that deafening sand trap.

My doctor diagnosed me as being allergic to cold weather.  It hasn't helped me get out of anything.

[zoeysmom]

1 hour ago, MatildaMoody said:

I'm kind of torn on Megan thing. I really dislike her so maybe that's the bias. But I don't think anyone was asking her to sit by Vicki's bed and hold her hand. They were asking her as someone close by to check on her and provide info on her condition. 

Even if you believe Vicki was exaggerating, getting air lifted to a hospital is fucking scary and Heather, Tamra, and Kelly had no idea what her condition was. Would it have killed Megan to take an hour out of her day to find out what Vicki's status was and reassure her and Vicki's friends about when Vicki would be released or if she was going to have prolonged stay. 

For God's sake Megan spent more time than that investigating the health claims of a man she didn't know, because Justice! But she couldn't take some time to put the minds of her supposed friends at ease while they are still in shock from an accident that resulted in two people being hurt and one of them being fucking airlifted to the hospital? 

Just becuase it needs to be Said, Shut Up Megan!

They invented a thing called phones.  Use them. If the daughter could not drive two hours why should Meghan.  After the big fuss Vicki and Brooks made about Meghan and his medical records why would Meghan jump in that mess again.  C'mon.  This is a piss poor Evolution Media stunt like Munchausen was to BH last year.

[Almost 3000]

22 minutes ago, KLovestoShop said:

I have to comment about Shannon and her house sale.  This was supposedly her dream house, so why sell?  Are they in financial trouble?   And , when you put your house on the market, don't you have a plan for another house?  If she's selling with most of her furniture, then what's the big freaking deal with packing in 13 days?  There are such things as movers who will pack everything up in a day or two. 

I think it was probably a house they intended to flip and the market turned bad. I have several CA neighbors that have been waiting and listed and sold really quickly this summer and none of them had a plan of where they were going either. This is probably a top of the market because who knows with the upcoming November election.

[CrinkleCutCat]

3 minutes ago, Almost 3000 said:

I think it was probably a house they intended to flip and the market turned bad. I have several CA neighbors that have been waiting and listed and sold really quickly this summer and none of them had a plan of where they were going either. This is probably a top of the market because who knows with the upcoming November election.

 It's unlikely they intended to flip this house....they had a 'B' inlaid into the timber floor! ...and crystals embedded into the concrete slab!

Edited September 7, 2016 by CrinkleCutCat

[zoeysmom]

9 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

 It's unlikely they intended to flip this house....they had a 'B' inlaid into the timber floor! ...and crystals embedded into the concrete slab!

Bad memories.  There is no indication the Beadors are in financial trouble, I am waiting to see where they move.

This is her current view: 

Edited September 7, 2016 by zoeysmom

[motorcitymom65]

18 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

 It's unlikely they intended to flip this house....they had a 'B' inlaid into the timber floor! ...and crystals embedded into the concrete slab!

And a basketball court installed INSIDE the house. 

[WireWrap]

6 hours ago, slitz said:

This.  I get why Meghan didn't, honestly I do.  BUT, if it were me, I would have gone and it would have been for those very reasons above.  In my opinion, it's just the right thing to do and I do remember being a bit shocked last night when Meghan stated that she wasn't going to go.  It would have been such a small thing for her to have done.  But I'm not going to crucify Meghan for not doing it either.  Yes, she and Vicki and "friendly" with each other, but they are by no means friends.  I highly doubt they talk to each other everyday or at all when not filming.

Count me in for Heather's version of camping.  I've done the rugged camping, I've done the trailers like what Tamra had arranged for (and those were a whole heck of a lot nicer than what I experienced as a kid!) and I'll take Heather's version (personal chef included) any day of the week.  Sorry, I like being comfortable even when I'm "roughing" it.  If that makes me a "princess"....well that is what my name means in Hebrew so I guess it's accurate!  LOL

Kelly's a fucking moron.  I can not believe she actually undid the strap of her helmet, claustrophobic or not.  She's beyond lucky that she didn't break her neck or worse.

I missed the very beginning so I didn't catch Shannon's explanation for why she couldn't attend Glamis.  Whether her excuse is real or not, I probably would have had the same reaction if I was her and found out that the woman who had spewed such vile vulgarity at me the last time I saw her was going to be on this trip as well.  No thank you.

They are co workers at best, Meghan/Vicki, and they get paid to go to each others events, like the PS trip. Meghan wasn't there out of the goodness of her heart, it was her job to attend. LOL

[walnutqueen]

7 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

On the set of The Challenge: Ruins, Evan and Kenny sexually assaulted an unconscious Tonya Cooley with someone's toothbrush. The crew continued to film and the only thing they did was to let the castmember whose toothbrush was used in the assault know that he needed to get a new toothbrush.

There was another rape on Real World: San Diego which caused them to throw out a month of footage.

Then there was the time that CT tried to murder Adam on The Challenge. The cast gave interviews where they said that they kept asking the crew and production to step in and the crew and production basically refused and told the cast to handle it. If you've seen that fight, it's pretty clear that saying that CT was trying to murder Adam was not an exaggeration.

Bunim Murray has been doing reality tv longer than anyone else and they've demonstrated that there is basically nothing that would cause them to step in and stop something dangerous and/or illegal. 

Holy fuckin fuckballs - I need to get out more,  Not only haven't I seen any of these shows (unimaginable, considering the eleventy million trash shows I DO watch); but I've not heard a word about any of these scandals!!!  :-)

Thank goodness I have y'all to keep me informed. 

[JAYJAY1979]

Dont foeget naked Wasted in season 4...when production refused to intervene...even though i heard rumors that Jeana was behind the scenes teying to get production to stop things.

[Christi]

Most telling moment of the episode for me:

Kelly calls Brianna, trying to stay calm but sounded VERY upset...choppy sentences...you mom was in an accident. She is hurt and being airlifted...NO ONE knew what was wrong at that point...from the minimal info that Kelly gave Brianna, Vic could have been fatality wounded, paralyzed etc...being air lifted while the other injured person is going in an ambulance is a HUGE deal.   Brianna is a NURSE..does she go into ER nurse mode? .does she ask medical questions? Try and get details? Ask the hospital phone number? Even feign as much concern as Heather actually had? NOPE

I was completely shocked when I heard Kelly get interrupted and say "oh, you are sick too?"

Wow Wow Wow , that call Brianna received was the one you NEVER want to get.  ACCIDENT,  HURT, LIFE FLIGHTED, and you respond with Im sick too?

I am absolutely gobsmacked...I knew Breanna was an ungrateful, self entitled blob of goo...but jesus christ I am blown away

Edited September 7, 2016 by Christi

[ParadoxLost]

I'm less up in arms today about Meghan not going to the hospital.

I do think that the next couple episodes are going to devolve into the HWs fighting about not going to the hospital and who had legitimate reasons and who didn't.

But I still maintain that declining to go while being filmed it one of the dumbest moves a HW has made.  If they've got nothing on film, then you can come up with an excuse.  If they are filming you, you go into the hospital and then call Brianna on camera about how they won't let you see Vicki and if she or her brother are on the way and then go home.

Yes, she wastes 2-3hrs of her life but I think that Meghan is going to find that the misery these people put her through is going to dwarf a couple hours in a car.

[RHJunkie]

I don't mind Meghan's initial decision not to go to the hospital. Her and Vicki aren't friends. Vicki has said some pretty nasty and judgmental things about Meghan and her marriage. Personally, I can't say if I would have dropped everything in that moment and visited Vicki knowing she was in the ER. I definitely would have visited if I found out that she required an extended stay and my visit would be courteous but that is all. 

It looks like Heather and Tamra may be jumping on their high horse to judge Meghan and Shannon (I assume) for not visiting Vicki in the hospital. It's not fair for them to ask someone with that kind of history with Vicki to go to the hospital to check up on her. If my friend took a tumble and had to be flown 3 hours away to a hospital - guess what? Trip is over and I'm going to Palm Springs to wait on her de-charge or diagnosis from the doctor. 

Not sure what to think of Briana's phone call. From Kelly's reaction, it seemed like Briana was being dismissive about her mom but it's possible that Briana brought up her health as an explanation that she wouldn't be able to make it to the hospital so far away.