Churchhoney August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 I'm sure they flew over the Gulf of Mexico. Isn't that overseas enough? It is for me. I wouldn't use "overseas" for Canada or Mexico, obviously. But I don't think it's too far off the mark for any place else. 1 Link to comment
Julia August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 Most of New York is off the mainland. The rest of the US is over the river and through the woods, like grandmother's house. I have to admit, I know there are countries connected to this one, but I think of countries-not-this-one as overseas, maybe because the ocean is right here where I can see it. The first time I visited my in laws in Michigan I was incredibly excited about going to Windsor, CA (of all glamorous places) because it was another country and I could go there for lunch, which seemed like a very jet set thing to do. 5 Link to comment
Joe Jitsu913 August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 I consider "overseas" to be on a different continent. Europe, Asia, South America etc. El Salvador is in North America. 6 Link to comment
Wellfleet August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 (edited) I'm glad someone else is finding it baffling! I was initially confused, doesn't leaving the country mean that you are going overseas? Everything is over a bloody sea! IMO, "overseas" is exactly what it implies. "Over the sea" - over an ocean usually. If an American travels to Mexico, he has not travelled overseas. If an Australian comes to Mexico, he most certainly has gone overseas. Edited to add: PS - I do not think it's correct to say that "Jill & Derrick went overseas to El Salvador" - because from Arkansas it's possible to travel there entirely by land. Bottom line, the Duggars probably use the term for the cachet alone. It just sounds a little more impressive. Or maybe in their cluelessness, they just don't know any better. They've labelled Josh a "graphic designer" because he can play with stationery software - something most people can do with 10-15 minutes of prep time. What's next? If Jackson knocks over a box of toothpicks, are they going to call him a lumberjack? Edited August 28, 2015 by Wellfleet 13 Link to comment
kokapetl August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 (edited) IMO, "overseas" is exactly what it implies. "Over the sea" - over an ocean usually. If an American travels to Mexico, he has not travelled overseas. If an Australian comes to Mexico, he most certainly has gone overseas. Edited to add: PS - I do not think it's correct to say that "Jill & Derrick went overseas to El Salvador" - because from Arkansas it's possible to travel there entirely by land. Bottom line, the Duggars probably use the term for the cachet alone. It just sounds a little more impressive. Or maybe in their cluelessness, they just don't know any better. They've labelled Josh a "graphic designer" because he can play with stationery software - something most people can do with 10-15 minutes of prep time. What's next? If Jackson knocks over a box of toothpicks, are they going to call him a lumberjack? Gulf of Mexico is part of the Atlantic Ocean. Technically you can "drive" a vehicle from Arkansas to Cape Horn on the Pan American Highway or to Scandinavia or Cape of Good Hope, weather permitting. You could also reach Britain via Chunnel, and never technically have travelled by air or sea. Excluding Australia and Antarctica, the continents are connected. I am drunk and I know everything. Edited August 28, 2015 by Kokapetl 10 Link to comment
Churchhoney August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 What's next? If Jackson knocks over a box of toothpicks, are they going to call him a lumberjack? You the answer is "emphatically, yes," right? 3 Link to comment
JenCarroll August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 What's next? If Jackson knocks over a box of toothpicks, are they going to call him a lumberjack? You the answer is "emphatically, yes," right? Absolutely not! The SOTDRT has much higher standards than that. Jackson cannot call himself a lumberjack until he can break a toothpick. However, I did hear that he made a box out of Popsicle sticks, so they will be issueing him a carpentry license. :-) 12 Link to comment
kokapetl August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 JimChelle don't seem inclined to blow smoke up Jackson's ass. Jackson was a fan favorite, but now the show is gone, what's he done for JimChelle lately? 2 Link to comment
Skittl1321 August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 If I go to Cozumel, is that overseas? I can't drive there... I had to go over the sea to get there. Then again, Hawaii is overseas too :) 1 Link to comment
Sew Sumi August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 (edited) Looks like "language school" is over. I imagine this means they're headed back to the States THIS weekend (Famy's wedding is next Sunday)? eta: I suppose it's possible that with Joshgate II going down that they may wait until the end of next week and fly back with Joy then? https://instagram.com/p/68UipeGCYu/?taken-by=derickdillard Edited August 28, 2015 by Sew Sumi 3 Link to comment
louannems August 28, 2015 Share August 28, 2015 Jill has a short new video up on her Instagram. A couple commentors have asked if she is preggers already! 2 Link to comment
zenme August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 (edited) El Salvador is in North America. It's in Central America. (Sorry. Not meant to bust balls or anything...) Edited August 30, 2015 by zenme 2 Link to comment
kokapetl August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 It's in Central America. (Sorry. Not to meant to bust balls or anything...) Technically it's the isthmus portion of North America that connects to South America. 3 Link to comment
zenme August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 (edited) Technically it's the isthmus portion of North America that connects to South America. Dad, is that you? Edited August 29, 2015 by zenme 22 Link to comment
SomePity1066 August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 I am drunk and I know everything. Good on you, Kokopetals ! Mee, too ! Love your posts ;) I always thought of "my" overseas, coming from SomePityCity here in North Eastern US, as going to either Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia, the Pacific Isles, etc. Either way, I agree wholeheartedly with Wellfleet that, regardless of where they're going, it's just Duggar "tradition" to add a little sumpin'-sumpin' to spice things up. They can't ever do anything the "regular" way - it has to be Duggarfied so it's extra special, neat, awesome, precious, AND a blessing ! So travel within your own continent becomes "overseas". It's just like how watching professional carpet installers laying carpet makes you a professional carpet installer, y'all ! That's the Duggar way, and the special "cache" that Wellfleet spoke of - they don't just learn - they become experts. They don't just pray - ALL of their prayers are answered. Hanging around in a house where a woman is in labor makes you a doula, midwife, and labor and delivery RN. And anything beyond the Mississippi or Missouri Rivers is "overseas"... The worst part is that Jill and Derrick have NO idea how ridiculous they come across, but I'm still happy that they (and JOY !) are out of the limelight right now. Any time a Duggar makes it off the compound an angel gets its wings. Um, except for Josh. But that's a different thread... 8 Link to comment
mbutterfly August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 IMO, "overseas" is exactly what it implies. "Over the sea" - over an ocean usually. If an American travels to Mexico, he has not travelled overseas. If an Australian comes to Mexico, he most certainly has gone overseas. Edited to add: PS - I do not think it's correct to say that "Jill & Derrick went overseas to El Salvador" - because from Arkansas it's possible to travel there entirely by land. Bottom line, the Duggars probably use the term for the cachet alone. It just sounds a little more impressive. Or maybe in their cluelessness, they just don't know any better. They've labelled Josh a "graphic designer" because he can play with stationery software - something most people can do with 10-15 minutes of prep time. What's next? If Jackson knocks over a box of toothpicks, are they going to call him a lumberjack? I don't think going to Central or South America is overseas. But I also don't think of going to Hawaii as going overseas. I think I kind of mix them. Link to comment
Skittl1321 August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 It's in Central America. (Sorry. Not to meant to bust balls or anything...) Central America isn't a continent. So if you're froma 7 continent country; central america is part of North America. If you are from a 6-continent country; it's just in the Americas 1 Link to comment
Julia August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 (edited) Geography is weird on this continent (did you know that Detroit is north of Canada?). Edited August 29, 2015 by Julia 5 Link to comment
SometimesBites August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 I don't think going to Central or South America is overseas. But I also don't think of going to Hawaii as going overseas. I think I kind of mix them.Hehe...god bless the English language, eh? My personal overseas means: 1. It's not part of my own country. So that rules out Hawaii. 2. I can't get there on foot (theoretically). I can walk (theoretically) from Alaska to Brazil, so that rules out El Salvador. Oh, and a day jaunt to Catalina Island doesn't count, either, Jill. 3 Link to comment
Zahdii August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 Regarding the term 'overseas': It's fun to snicker at, but not really that big of a deal when you consider the big issues of molestation, hypocrisy, child neglect, etc. Maybe 'overseas' is a regional thing. Where I grew up, a cola was called 'pop'. My husband called it a 'sody (so-dee)'. Others call it a soda. It all tastes the same. 3 Link to comment
bigskygirl August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 The off topic discussion about using the term overseas might be causing some motion sickness for some of us. Lets stop the sickness and bring the thread back to the main topic at hand. Thank you. Link to comment
3 is enough August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 Jill has a short new video up on her Instagram. A couple commentors have asked if she is preggers already! Oh, FFS! She gave birth, by c-section, to a very large baby less than 5 months ago! Not so easy to bounce back to a flat tummy after that. I know it is technically possible ( we are talking Duggars, after all), but why do the leghumpers actually encourage this madness? 3 Link to comment
Satchels of gold August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 It's in Central America. (Sorry. Not to meant to bust balls or anything...) Technically it's the isthmus portion of North America that connects to South America. Central America isn't a continent. So if you're froma 7 continent country; central america is part of North America. If you are from a 6-continent country; it's just in the Americas Geography is hard y'all ( said in my best Brittney Spears accent) 1 Link to comment
bigskygirl August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 Lets end the continent debate also please. This is the Dillards thread, not a geography lesson. Thank you. Link to comment
Missy Vixen August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 Oh, FFS! She gave birth, by c-section, to a very large baby less than 5 months ago! Not so easy to bounce back to a flat tummy after that. I know it is technically possible ( we are talking Duggars, after all), but why do the leghumpers actually encourage this madness? People in the real world realize that it's been less than five months, but in Jilly Muffin's world, she should have been PG with derickdillard's holy sperm on Day 41 (no matter what her doctor said). And it would not surprise me if she is, yes, already pregnant. More photos of Jilly Muffin sticking out her abdomen will wipe Smuggar right off the front pages, won't they? 3 Link to comment
TaxNerd August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 I don't think she's pregnant. I hope not. My hopes are pinned on her to best survive this family. 1 Link to comment
Jellybeans August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 I hope not. My hopes are pinned on her to best survive this family. She is still nursing. And I think Derick has his own ideas about children... 3 Link to comment
JoanArc August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 More photos of Jilly Muffin sticking out her abdomen will wipe Smuggar right off the front pages, won't they? BABIES FIX EVERYTHING. 11 Link to comment
GeeGolly August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 Like Jelly beans said she is still nursing, and likely to nurse longer if they stay in Central America. Not that nursing is foolproof, but it does lower the odds. 1 Link to comment
TaxNerd August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 She is still nursing. And I think Derick has his own ideas about children... Derick is why I have such high hopes for Jill. She has a quiet strength that I hope Derick can help her tap into and wake up. 2 Link to comment
BitterApple August 29, 2015 Share August 29, 2015 Oh, FFS! She gave birth, by c-section, to a very large baby less than 5 months ago! Not so easy to bounce back to a flat tummy after that. I know it is technically possible ( we are talking Duggars, after all), but why do the leghumpers actually encourage this madness? Baby Iz was like the size of an elephant, and Jill was all stomach. I can't believe people can't use common sense and figure out that it's unlikely she'll have a flat tummy five months post-delivery. Not to mention she probably screwed up her recovery by traveling when should have been at home and resting. 7 Link to comment
TaxNerd August 30, 2015 Share August 30, 2015 Baby Iz was like the size of an elephant, and Jill was all stomach. I can't believe people can't use common sense and figure out that it's unlikely she'll have a flat tummy five months post-delivery. Not to mention she probably screwed up her recovery by traveling when should have been at home and resting. You mean you can't pray your way to flat abs? 2 Link to comment
BitterApple August 30, 2015 Share August 30, 2015 You mean you can't pray your way to flat abs? Lol, I wish:) 5 Link to comment
smlait August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Oh, FFS! She gave birth, by c-section, to a very large baby less than 5 months ago! Not so easy to bounce back to a flat tummy after that. I know it is technically possible ( we are talking Duggars, after all), but why do the leghumpers actually encourage this madness? If their doctor was anything like mine, they were recommended not to get pregnant for at least 9 months after the surgery to minimize risk of harm to mum with the second pregnancy. While they may not be actively trying to prevent pregnancy, I doubt they're actively trying to get pregnant yet either. Link to comment
SometimesBites August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 If their doctor was anything like mine, they were recommended not to get pregnant for at least 9 months after the surgery to minimize risk of harm to mum with the second pregnancy. While they may not be actively trying to prevent pregnancy, I doubt they're actively trying to get pregnant yet either. Hehe...which is, of course how babies are made. :) 7 Link to comment
Popular Post BucFan August 31, 2015 Popular Post Share August 31, 2015 BABIES FIX EVERYTHING.Many years ago my life was in a bit of an uproar. My in-laws had died within 2 months of each other, my husband lost his job and had a heart attack, we were in the process of selling our house and moving. A friend said to me "BucFan, you need to have another baby." All these years later I have never forgotten that STUPID comment. 29 Link to comment
smlait August 31, 2015 Share August 31, 2015 Hehe...which is, of course how babies are made. :) Well, yes, "oops" babies happen. But breastfeeding does offer some level of natural hormonal birth control. (And they could be abstaining - which would have been my doctor's second choice. We went with the first choice of "woman goes on pill until nine months has passed". "Increased risk of uterine rupture" is scary sounding enough that I'd think even the hyper-religious would want to avoid it.) Anyway, all I was getting at was that I'm not at all surprised she isn't pregnant again yet. Jill and Derrick have very very good reasons to wait at least another few months before beginning to try for #2. 1 Link to comment
Sew Sumi September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 New blog post from the Dullards, penned by Muffy, complete with SODRT-level grammatical errors. The irony in the "me vs. I" gaffe was that it occurred in a sentence talking about....grammar! Gold, Jerry! http://www.dillardfamily.com/blog Some new pics follow the blog post. It looks like Joy got Izzy duty during her time there. So yeah, sister-mom help, and she only has one kid! Jill does confirm that Joy/Carlin's stay is two weeks, which brings them back in time for Famy's wedding this weekend. Who wants to bet that Jill and Derick will be back yet again? They already graduated from "language school," so they're good-o to go-o. Neat-o! 6 Link to comment
ChocolateAddict September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 Clearly no one taught Jilly-Muffin that exclamation marks lose their significance when you use them in every second sentence! 5 Link to comment
sometimesy September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 I wonder if that laptop has a Nanny thing on it. Joy 'No no, you two go ahead, I'll babysit right here in front of this laptop, find fake documents for my new identity and set up a tinder account' 3 Link to comment
SomePity1066 September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 ChocolateAddict ! No ! They ! Didn't ! Teach ! Her ! That ! I think she purposed it all by herself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SewSumi - It's Gold, Jerry ! GOLD !!! 1 Link to comment
Micks Picks September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 Jill, me wants youse to no that it's never "to Derick and I". Youse guys git that wrong all the time. 6 Link to comment
CofCinci September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 (edited) August has been a busy month for us and as so many of you know it has ended on a sad note for my extended family. Extended? Distance your brand from Josh, girl! Reading previously.tv forums the night the Ashley Madison hack made the news. What's with all the scribbles? The baby is too young for that. Does Joy know how to write? Edited September 1, 2015 by CofCinci 8 Link to comment
GeeGolly September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 Extended? Distance your brand from Josh, girl! Reading previously.tv forums the night the Ashley Madison hack made the news. What's with all the scribbles? The baby is too young for that. Does Joy know how to write? Nice Product Placement. They best be careful Apple may want them to start placing stickers over the logos. 2 Link to comment
Churchhoney September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 How sad is it that a 17-year-old girl's "best friend" lives hundreds of miles away? 3 Link to comment
MichellesRobocall September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 New blog post from the Dullards, penned by Muffy, complete with SODRT-level grammatical errors. The irony in the "me vs. I" gaffe was that it occurred in a sentence talking about....grammar! Gold, Jerry! http://www.dillardfamily.com/blog Some new pics follow the blog post. It looks like Joy got Izzy duty during her time there. So yeah, sister-mom help, and she only has one kid! Jill does confirm that Joy/Carlin's stay is two weeks, which brings them back in time for Famy's wedding this weekend. Who wants to bet that Jill and Derick will be back yet again? They already graduated from "language school," so they're good-o to go-o. Neat-o! I'm actually impressed that Jill is learning Spanish. She barely learned English, so I can't imagine how difficult it's been for her. Kudos to her for trying something new. In that blog, I think she came across more articulate than she ever has. She has grammar problems, but I know plenty of people who have graduated from college and have grammar problems. The fact that Jill is trying to learn is refreshing. I, too, felt the first paragraph in that blog was an effort to distance herself from her family. Calling Josh and Anna her "extended family" is her way of saying, "Hey, no, I have nothing to do with this. I am a Dillard." I wouldn't be surprised if Derick was encouraging her to move away from her family. Jill may have the best chance of getting away from Boob and MEchelle. 11 Link to comment
Skittl1321 September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 How sad is it that a 17-year-old girl's "best friend" lives hundreds of miles away? Not very, IMO. Especially because "best friend" isn't a title that can only be given to one person. Lots of people maintain friendships when people move or friends who they see once a year at camp but have deep distance friendships with. My best friend when I was growing up moved when we were in 4th grade, and we kept in touch the entire time through college. I would have called her my best friend. That was before the internet. It's easier now. 6 Link to comment
NewDigs September 1, 2015 Share September 1, 2015 A snippet from the blog post: My younger sister, Joy, and her best friend, Carlin Bates, came home with us! It's been a blast having company and they've been such a great help to us while we bury ourselves in the books! I will not want them to leave after their two week visit! I love having them here for the friendship and Israel certainly loves all the extra attention! Did they always refer to their Central America mission as "home"? May be this is going be a mission extend-a-stay, thank you Josh.... 3 Link to comment
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