Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[What In The]

I know Anna's upbringing did not encourage articulate womenfolk but I wonder if the ability is in Anna somewhere deep down?

[yogi2014L]

Whole foods is my hell too. You mean my ONLY option is 10$ head of romaine? Or a 4.99 single piece of cake?

My sister in law was trying to convince me that its 'really about the same' as other grocery stores. While I wanted to scream THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE NO MONEY " i just nodded along. 

 

Seriously where is Josh? I am getting a LITTLE hopefully that he just said fuck it I'm out and fled to Seattle or somewhere Hell even one of the chicago burbs would provide him enough anonymity. Theres a crap ton of people here especially if we went to like Northwest burbs or even north side in the city away from gothardites he would be lost amongst the crowds and forgotten about. 

[sometimesy]

Josh might be sitting at the 'mountain retreat' they own, getting counsel from a Gothard or RU grad. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't go anywhere, or has already returned. Punishment wise, RU was a great idea.

[kokapetl]

Trader Joe's is owned by those gawdless Germans.

Another thing Priscilla isn't aware of.

[Tabbygirl521]

Whole foods is my hell too. You mean my ONLY option is 10$ head of romaine? Or a 4.99 single piece of cake?

My sister in law was trying to convince me that its 'really about the same' as other grocery stores. While I wanted to scream THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE NO MONEY " i just nodded along.

Seriously where is Josh? I am getting a LITTLE hopefully that he just said fuck it I'm out and fled to Seattle or somewhere Hell even one of the chicago burbs would provide him enough anonymity. Theres a crap ton of people here especially if we went to like Northwest burbs or even north side in the city away from gothardites he would be lost amongst the crowds and forgotten about.

I'm in Seattle, so I'll keep my eyes open. LOL. This would be a great place for him to totally reject Gothardism. He can sit around with his legal cannabis, contemplating life among the heathen blue-staters. It would have even better if he'd arrived prior to 2013, when our governor and both US senators were WIMMEN! (And look what happened! Gay marriage! Pot! OMG!!!) heh.

[MargeGunderson]

Another thing Priscilla isn't aware of.

 

I think the list of things Priscilla isn't aware of is very long, and sad.

[DangerousMinds]

Josh might be sitting at the 'mountain retreat' they own, getting counsel from a Gothard or RU grad. It wouldn't surprise me if he didn't go anywhere, or has already returned. Punishment wise, RU was a great idea.

How many houses does he own?

[3girlsforus]

Whole foods is my hell too. You mean my ONLY option is 10$ head of romaine? Or a 4.99 single piece of cake?

My sister in law was trying to convince me that its 'really about the same' as other grocery stores. While I wanted to scream THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE NO MONEY " i just nodded along. 

 

Seriously where is Josh? I am getting a LITTLE hopefully that he just said fuck it I'm out and fled to Seattle or somewhere Hell even one of the chicago burbs would provide him enough anonymity. Theres a crap ton of people here especially if we went to like Northwest burbs or even north side in the city away from gothardites he would be lost amongst the crowds and forgotten about. 

 

Ugh on Whole Foods - I know that feeling. I like Fresh Market because their sales make things much more manageable.

 

Anyway - back to on topic. I don't know that Josh has the fortitude to tell JB once and for all to get the @#$@# out of his life and bail. I love the idea of him doing that but it would just be another screw over for Anna. If Josh runs Anna is stuck with JB in control. It's not like they will just say 'ok Anna, we will help you file for divorce and track down Josh for child support.'. They will control her even more. As selfish as Josh is, I really hope he's not selfish enough to break free but leave his family behind to clean up the mess. 

[kokapetl]

How many houses does he own?

Just the one.

[Marigold]

Josh will never officially leave because he is dependent on Jim Bob for money.  Especially now. he is unemployable and Josh knows it.

 

I think his actions were a self hating, family hating, sick, big FU to his entire Gothard life. 

He played it all wrong...he should've left like a man, gotten counseling and moved forward. 

[Defrauder]

Let's be selfish for a minute.  What's in our best interests in the case  of Where's Josh? For comedy's sake and anti JB/Gothard,  I'd like him to be somewhere off JB's radar, growing facial hair, taking a paying job in construction, hanging out at the local bar, filing for divorce, and writing a tell all on the horrors of the Gothard lifestyle with JB at the helm.  

[sometimesy]

How many houses does he own?

One of the magazines embellished the house Josh just bought to make it sound like a romantic hideaway where Josh and his family took refuge at the beginning of this mess. I was just snarking.

[Fuzzysox]

I saw a picture of the porn star while in a rag while waiting at the checkout line. I must say she looks so much like Anna it's a little freaky. Leads me to believe that Anna said NO to what Josh had in his mind so he went out looking for it in someone that looked almost like her so he wasn't "cheating." Does that make sense?

[Satchels of gold]

Just read that another women has come foward to say she had unprotected sex with Josh. I will try to link it.

Edited September 4, 2015 by nc socialworker

[Lemur]

Whole foods is my hell too. You mean my ONLY option is 10$ head of romaine? Or a 4.99 single piece of cake?

My sister in law was trying to convince me that its 'really about the same' as other grocery stores. While I wanted to scream THIS IS WHY YOU HAVE NO MONEY " i just nodded along. 

 

My (former) platonic male lifemate's dependapotamus girlfriend tried to say about too, but then I pointed out that she was comparing it to Wegman's. Also, that she was so broke her butt needed to be shopping at Aldi.  

 

Let's be selfish for a minute.  What's in our best interests in the case  of Where's Josh? For comedy's sake and anti JB/Gothard,  I'd like him to be somewhere off JB's radar, growing facial hair, taking a paying job in construction, hanging out at the local bar, filing for divorce, and writing a tell all on the horrors of the Gothard lifestyle with JB at the helm.  

 

I'd like him to be doing that too, but he's too soft for construction and wouldn't dare mix with most day laborers.  Knowing him, I hope he's out some place on the West Coast, eating fish tacos, drinking beers, maybe indulging in some other recreational activities while he negotiates the book and movie right to his life.  

[Defrauder]

What are the odds that the porn star Josh supposedly had sex with - her last name is Dillon.  Amy's husband-to-be's first name is Dillon, and then there's Derek Dillard. And Jill and Derek use the term "Dilly" and Amy's fiance calls himself KingDillPickle, and the Duggars are known for loving pickles. It's just kinda weird! 

It IS weird!  Next thing we know they'll be buying Bob Dylan records and opening a Dill Spice factory.

[Defrauder]

Well, to be fair kalamac, Josie licks her food straight off the countertops, so I guess that cuts down on the dish washing, disposable plates,  and water use.

I'm surprised they don't just have Josie lick all of the plates clean.  That could be her jurisdiction. 

[OhioMom]

Tonight's the RU freak show live steam. I'll probably tune in to see if Josh is there. I swore he was there last week. Striped shirt. 4th row.

 

I heard (er...thought) that same thing! :)

[OpieTaylor]

If Josh runs Anna is stuck with JB in control. It's not like they will just say 'ok Anna, we will help you file for divorce and track down Josh for child support.'. They will control her even more. As selfish as Josh is, I really hope he's not selfish enough to break free but leave his family behind to clean up the mess. 

Doesn't the Old Testament say that if a husband dies, his brother should marry the widow? Maybe the Duggars would make Anna and John David get married! ha, ha

[Patricia07]

I saw a picture of the porn star while in a rag while waiting at the checkout line. I must say she looks so much like Anna it's a little freaky. Leads me to believe that Anna said NO to what Josh had in his mind so he went out looking for it in someone that looked almost like her so he wasn't "cheating." Does that make sense?

 

I don't think it's that complicated.

[Defrauder]

Doesn't the Old Testament say that if a husband dies, his brother should marry the widow? Maybe the Duggars would make Anna and John David get married! ha, ha

Yeah and then if that brother dies she goes to the next brother.  Some people asked Jesus who ends up getting her in the end as his wife in heaven, after so many brothers, and Jesus said people don't marry in heaven.  

 

Anna has a lot of brother-in-laws to go through during life. 

[toodles]

Ugh on Whole Foods - I know that feeling. I like Fresh Market because their sales make things much more manageable.

 

Anyway - back to on topic. I don't know that Josh has the fortitude to tell JB once and for all to get the @#$@# out of his life and bail. I love the idea of him doing that but it would just be another screw over for Anna. If Josh runs Anna is stuck with JB in control. It's not like they will just say 'ok Anna, we will help you file for divorce and track down Josh for child support.'. They will control her even more. As selfish as Josh is, I really hope he's not selfish enough to break free but leave his family behind to clean up the mess.

[toodles]

Boy, my Kindle does not like the quote button. Anyway, boo on whole foods too. Josh would stick Anna with this mess in a heartbeat. My impression is he only got married for tv and to make his parents happy. My sister in law did basically the same thing with disastrous results. The rest of us cleaned up an unimaginable mess. Josh is all about Josh. Selfish people don't care who they hurt. All of this will live on the internet for his children to see. If that's not selfish, I don't know what is.

[Wellfleet]

My (former) platonic male lifemate's dependapotamus girlfriend tried to say about too, but then I pointed out that she was comparing it to Wegman's. Also, that she was so broke her butt needed to be shopping at Aldi.  

 

 

I'd like him to be doing that too, but he's too soft for construction and wouldn't dare mix with most day laborers.  Knowing him, I hope he's out some place on the West Coast, eating fish tacos, drinking beers, maybe indulging in some other recreational activities while he negotiates the book and movie right to his life.  

 

Yes to everything but the fish tacos. I can't see Josh eating anything but pure, unadulterated crud. Deep-fried with cheese and bacon.

[SometimesBites]

If you pour the whiskey on the granola, you'll save time.

Hey, thanks for the tip, Kalamac!

[Lemur]

Yes to everything but the fish tacos. I can't see Josh eating anything but pure, unadulterated crud. Deep-fried with cheese and bacon.

You're so right.  I should change that to Taco Bell.

[CofCinci]

I'm in for tonight. Anyone else?

[Porkchop]

I never watched this show, but I knew who the Duggars were because I love magazines ... and I subscribe to many, plus I devour them at the doctor's, the dentist's and the hairdresser's! But now, I am addicted to previously.tv! This forum in particular! I should be working, but I'm checking on Josh! I may need counseling!

[Fuzzysox]

One of my girls does workstudy at her college. The other day she brought home her new "uniform" it's a blue polo. I couldn't help thinking oh sooooo Camp Scamafundie wear. Seriously, we all need help as we spend way too much time here. lol

[Marigold]

I think Josh married Anna because he knew he was messed up in the head and tried to straighten himself out by finding a nice Christian girl, settling down and having some regular sex. 

Instead, the problems he had didn't get better but got worse. Josh knew his behavior was sick and he self hated...self medicated and spun into a vile and dark place.  

 

What do I hope for Josh? 
I really hope Josh gets real counseling and gets better. I hope Anna can heal.   I think Anna and Josh really do love each other and the kids.

 

At first I found some amusement in seeing the Duggar clan take a fall. (not Anna but that smug Jim Bob)  But the past few days, I really do hope that Josh can get well. I'm disgusted that he might be in some potentially unlicensed and shady pray away the problem scam. It's very sad that someone with such mental problems/problems/issues cannot get adequate help. The Duggars have the money. If that were my son, I would pay ANYTHING to get him cleaned up and healed up.

 

And as for that porn star looking like Anna and Anna not being adventurous enough for Josh so he got a stand in wife? This has nothing to do with Anna and everything to do with Josh and his mental health problems.  Anna could be a freak in the bedroom and it's irrelevant.  Josh cheated because of his demons. It's his stuff and his issues and his problems....for me, Anna is not even in the discussion. 

Edited September 4, 2015 by Marigold

[Churchhoney]

We'll have to enroll in RealityTV Unanimous.

[3girlsforus]

Doesn't the Old Testament say that if a husband dies, his brother should marry the widow? Maybe the Duggars would make Anna and John David get married! ha, ha

 

At least John David has a job LOL

[Defrauder]

I'm in for tonight. Anyone else?

I can't I have to get some sleep but I'll be checking in first thing in the morning.  Have fun everyone!

[kokapetl]

I think Josh married Anna because he knew he was messed up in the head and tried to straighten himself out by finding a nice Christian girl, settling down and having some regular sex.

Instead, the problems he had didn't get better but got worse. Josh knew his behavior was sick and he self hated...self medicated and spun into a vile and dark place.

What do I hope for Josh?

I really hope Josh gets real counseling and gets better. I hope Anna can heal. I think Anna and Josh really do love each other and the kids.

At first I found some amusement in seeing the Duggar clan take a fall. (not Anna but that smug Jim Bob) But the past few days, I really do hope that Josh can get well. I'm disgusted that he might be in some potentially unlicensed and shady pray away the problem scam. It's very sad that someone with such mental problems/problems/issues cannot get adequate help. The Duggars have the money. If that were my son, I would pay ANYTHING to get him cleaned up and healed up.

And as for that porn star looking like Anna and Anna not being adventurous enough for Josh so he got a stand in wife? This has nothing to do with Anna and everything to do with Josh and his mental health problems. Anna could be a freak in the bedroom and it's irrelevant. Josh cheated because of his demons. It's his stuff and his issues and his problems....for me, Anna is not even in the discussion.

The porn star and his alleged milfy tastes remind me of Amy, which is incredibly disturbing.

I think Josh married Anna because his parents put an insane amount of pressure on him to marry ASAP. JimBob wanted/wants his children to live out his fantasy, not their own.

RAINN says that even without treatment juvenile offenders aren't pedophiles or likely to continue offending, and I believe that's the case for Josh.

[camom]

 

dependapotamus

 

Lemur, thanks for the new word for my vocabulary!

 

Josh is off somewhere being "treated" while poor Anna is stuck at home with four little kids and is probably being counseled every waking moment that she needs to be a better wife.  It's all so sad.

[Aja]

I'm in for tonight. Anyone else?

I'm still unsure of what delights may or may not await me this evening, but in the very likely event that I end up sitting on my bed with my laptop and a glass of wine thinking "I really didn't feel like doing anything anyway", you can bet J'Aja Smithson will be there.

[frenchtoast]

Folks, we cannot prevent you from doing stuff at other sites. However, it's getting to be a bit much here. Please, no live blogging/chatting the livestream from now on. You can make your arrangements and discuss the secret handshake via PM. 

 

 

Thanks!

[Tunia]

Josh is off somewhere being "treated" while poor Anna is stuck at home with four little kids and is probably being counseled every waking moment that she needs to be a better wife.  It's all so sad.

 

 

When I get to the point of quoting a Daily Fail article that is quoting a Radar Online article, I may have reached the outer edge of credibility, but this comment stood out:

According to Radar, his family are thought to be quizzing Anna on whether or not her actions could be behind Josh's infidelity, adding: 'she’s being counseled to be there more for Josh sexually.'

Anna, who was homeschooled, has made no motion to leave her husband.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3221992/Second-mistress-Josh-Duggar-claims-suffered-pregnancy-scare-unprotected-sex-disgraced-star-goes-missing-Christian-rehab-clinic.html

 

Poor Anna.  One can only hope she reaches her senses and r-u-n-s while she has the chance.

[Julia]

When I get to the point of quoting a Daily Fail article that is quoting a Radar Online article, I may have reached the outer edge of credibility

I'm pretty sure at one point someone quoted the Inquisitr misquoting Us. You're practically in respectable territory, graded on a Bell curve.

[sometimesy]

When I get to the point of quoting a Daily Fail article that is quoting a Radar Online article, I may have reached the outer edge of credibility, but this comment stood out:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3221992/Second-mistress-Josh-Duggar-claims-suffered-pregnancy-scare-unprotected-sex-disgraced-star-goes-missing-Christian-rehab-clinic.html

 

Poor Anna.  One can only hope she reaches her senses and r-u-n-s while she has the chance.

 

Poor M & M's.

[OhioMom]

I kind of thought the porn star looked like Jessa or Jill.  You know...if they were trying to look like porn stars.  But that's just me.  But it does bring it to a whole different level of creepiness.

[zenme]

According to Radar, his family are thought to be quizzing Anna on whether or not her actions could be behind Josh's infidelity, adding: 'she’s being counseled to be there more for Josh sexually.'

Anna, who was homeschooled, has made no motion to leave her husband.

 

I'm imagining a group of fundie women giving Anna bags of french maid costumes, nurse costumes, naughty school girl uniforms...

This may be an unpopular opinion, but I have to say, I don't really blame Anna for not leaving Josh right now.  I can understand that she's going to see if the therapy will be beneficial to Josh.  If Josh goes through his therapy and his behaviors are unchanged, or if Anna just can't get over the betrayal, then I think she can leave the marriage knowing that she did everything she could.  I may think Josh is a smug pervert, but Anna loves him, and I think it's okay that she waits a bit before she decides what she wants to do. 

[kokapetl]

When I get to the point of quoting a Daily Fail article that is quoting a Radar Online article, I may have reached the outer edge of credibility, but this comment stood out:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3221992/Second-mistress-Josh-Duggar-claims-suffered-pregnancy-scare-unprotected-sex-disgraced-star-goes-missing-Christian-rehab-clinic.html

This is why I have a strong aversion to tabloids, especially the online type. A single spurious claim in one article begats several more articles in other tabloids, and then that volume of articles becomes a "reliable" and "substantiated" basis for further BS.

[Anne Elk]

I agree that they're probably keeping Josh out of the public eye at pray-away camp until the media forgets about him again. No doubt it's for the best -- unless the guy is a total sociopath, the guilt and shame he feels must be terrible. He's basically got to rebuild his adult life all over again from nothing, and it doesn't sound like anyone in his family is in a forgiving mood. Except poor Anna, who's probably getting the passive-aggressive backlash of all the shaming everybody wishes they could dump on him. What a royally effed-up situation.

[truthtalk2014]

I hope you remembered to go to work etc.

LOL- Thankfully, I work from my home most of the time.  Especially today! 

 

I heard (er...thought) that same thing! :)

I signed up for the Freak Fest Livestream and did a test post to see how it works - now that it is actually Friday.  I just want to play the Where's Waldo game and see who gets blackballed first. 

[JenCarroll]

I'm pretty sure at one point someone quoted the Inquisitr misquoting Us. You're practically in respectable territory, graded on a Bell curve.

Radar Online has been known to use this board as a source, so the unfounded, misquoted rumors come full circle eventually.

[Julia]

So, wait, you mean we're the secret media masters of the universe?

Oh, this is gonna be a fun election year...

[JenCarroll]

Well, we were the Secret Media Masters; now that you've gone and outed us I don't know what'll happen. We may all have to get new user names to throw people off the scent.

[Julia]

When I sign in as J'ulia Bob Smithson, pretend you don't know me (shh)

[Aja]

J'Aja Smithson is in the house, PM me if you wanna party like it's 1894!