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What have they ever accomplished on their 'missions' exactly? I know at one point they were trying to learn to speak Spanish. Did they ever succeed? At another point Jill wore glasses and pretended to use a tri-corder looking device on a pregnant woman. How many babies did she help safely deliver? Another time they were using their social public accounts to proclaim that they were missioning to people who were 'spiritually dead' because they didn't believe what they believe. They put on a play once that even people who are familiar with their faith found difficult to translate into meaning. It's almost like OK they know they have to make some money to live so they just go on a mission to Danger America and use that as justification for grifting.

Right again. OK let's throw that in after: You encourage us by reminding us and everyone how I risked both of our lives to make you come into this world to remind us of that every day. New completed public Birthday Greeting for Josie:Our dear precious Josie, Happy 7th birthday. You are such a miracle in every way! Every day we marvel at all of your accomplishments from walking to almost talking to your adorable smile. As the baby of the family you are cherished by everyone around you as you touch their lives w your special self. You encourage us by reminding us and everyone how I risked both of our lives to make you come into this world to remind us of that every day. We know you will lead thousands of children to Jesus by being alive and surviving a sure death along with me. Just don't tell them about you know the next one that didn't work out that way. While you are such a good and special helper wanting even more jurisdictions as you attempt to drive the family around and clean up the crumbs on the counter (Josie's favorite food!) the best way you can. You try to grow up by doing your nails in a bowl of fruit juice because as the designated baby of the family for life you are denied proper utensils. Happy public birthday greeting Josie, we hope someday you will be able to read this on our Facebook page. Love, Mommy and Daddy and the other 18 not as special miracle siblings.

I am so sick of these fundie people thanking God for toilets and discounts at Lowes. Every freaking bargain they come across it's from God himself. Like he wouldn't have anything better to do than to come up with coupons or rebates and sales for home goods. I am so sick of them thanking the Almighty for the new appliance discount they were 'blessed' to find. Please. Grow the F up and realize God isn't blessing you with toilets and plumbing supplies.

Maybe because he's still a youth.

I think Jessa has a lot of practice with homeschooling too because when Michelle had to risk her life to give birth to Josie and then pretend to take care of her, Jessa had to take over the homeschooling for the rest of the children. That's how she got her dominatrix reputation I'm pretty sure by disciplining all of the children to do their school work - now and without complaint and on time!

We now know the future occupations of all of the Duggar men. They will all be pastors or preachers or ministers or whatever JB decides to title them. Their only qualification having the last name Duggar. So far we have Jeremy, wanna-be Ben, and missionary Derick. Soon to be - Pastor Jeremy of JB Duggar Church, Pastor Ben of JB Duggar church, & acting missionary Derick of the Church of JB Duggar. Pastor John David Duggar, and then right down the line to Pastor Jackson Duggar someday. Jana can run the nursery babysitting service for the congregants, while replacing broken lightbulbs and regular maintainence, and the Duggar females yet to be married off will marry future church members or church pastors. The Duggar men will marry Proverbs whatever women who attend the church, cook, clean and raise dozens of Duggar offspring.

I understand what you're saying, and I agree that the majority of Christians ( 97-99.5% probably) have no idea who Gothard is however, I seriously doubt Ben, Derick, or Jeremy can claim ignorance. I think they can feign ignorance for the purposes of all things TLC and making everything seem more palatable but I don't believe for one second that they truly don't know. JB wouldn't let anyone within 10 feet of courting if they didn't know - and follow - the deal.

The generational altar kissing thing, where the fuck is modesty when you need it. Damn, can't unsee. Pass the bleach.

The altar kisses of JB & Michelle at their daughter's wedding. When a couple has to continually 'purpose to' prove to the world how much in love they are they probably aren't. Their shouting from the rooftops about how much they love each other, their children, and God, praying in the public square as it were just proves they never learned about their religion's detest for hypocrisy.

The couch with the blanket may just be where Jana or one of the sister-mom's had to sleep to take care of Iz because Jill can't do it on her own and maybe Derick had to go out for a couple of hours.

I can't look without cringing.

Well I can only speak for myself and I'm not obsessed with the Duggars. I only use this forum for lighthearted humor to get my mind off of more serious things like politics, world issues, physical illness and real life problems. I don't even watch the show and have only caught some views on youtube when I need a laugh. As far as someone who is going to court and marry a Duggar - obviously they would know a lot more about them than I do or care to know. So yeah they know about Gothard and the cult. No way they didn't.

Seriously is JohnDavid still sleeping in the boys bunk room with Jackson and all of the other boys? I mean really. No wonder he'd be awkward around adult men and women, he's still having slumber parties with boys and teenagers which isn't his fault.

Completed public birthday greeting for Josie: Our dear precious Josie, Happy 7th birthday. You are such a miracle in every way! Every day we marvel at all of your accomplishments from walking to almost talking to your adorable smile. As the baby of the family you are cherished by everyone around you as you touch their lives w your special self. You encourage us by reminding us and everyone how I risked both of our lives to make you come into this world to remind us of that every day. While you are such a good and special helper wanting even more jurisdictions as you attempt to drive the family around and clean up the crumbs on the counter (Josie's favorite food!) the best way you can. You try to grow up by doing your nails in a bowl of fruit juice because as the designated baby of the family for life you are denied proper utensils. Happy public birthday greeting Josie, we hope someday you will be able to read this on our Facebook page. Love, Mommy and Daddy and the other 18 not as special miracle siblings.

If Jill assisted at a Jessa home birth and something went wrong I would wonder if it was on purpose. Probably not but I don't trust Jill's authenticity or genuine affection for anyone, not even Iz. I don't think she's matured past being a Duggar robot and she doesn't even know what real feelings are. She's someone who can go to another country to save those who are as she thinks of them 'spirituality dead'. Like they're less than she is, and without her on a mission they'd be dead. It's horrible. Those very people probably have more genuine love and spirituality than she could ever imagine having.