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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events


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Comments aren't the same as a published story on a media site.  Authors of reputable media sites generally aren't going to be the hysterical sort we see going crazy because a baby has a milk rash or a man is unattractive or some battle of the ridiculous mommy wars.  The tone of these articles is going to be different because most normal people aren't going to agree with something from a journalist that disparages a baby.  

 

The hysterical commenters will continue to exist no matter what.  

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I sure hope so. I'm only interested in this story because it's completely astonishing to me that covering up their son's child molestation is not enough to get either TLC or People magazine to cut ties with these bigots. How appalling is that? They make the vile, hateful Family Research Council look good in comparison.

 

It's too bad that all the Twitter ugliness will be aimed at an innocent newborn, but if Josh Duggar is going to try to hide his crimes behind his adorable kid, then that is what is going to happen and he knows it. I hope that he and Anna care enough to spare their kids that sort of thing, but I'm not optimistic. They seem to enjoy the idea that the big, evil world is persecuting them because of what awesome Christians they are.

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Many years ago, as part of health class, I took a tour of the L&D ward of a nearby hospital. They had a birthing chair there that looked very similar to a toilet, but with an open space underneath for someone to catch the baby. The doctor giving the tour said she was disappointed more women weren't willing to try it, because it was a more natural position for giving birth.

I do hope Anna is able to do whatever is most comfortable for her, now that won't be any cameras around.

Way back when, there was an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where Counselor Troi somehow randomly gets pregnant and has the baby like, the next day. She had it in this cool looking birthing chair, and I thought wow: how come we don't do that in real life? Let gravity help get the baby out? Seems like a no-brainer...

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IIRC birthing chairs were commonly used throughout history.  Guess we've done everything but birthday chairs in the last 50-75 years.  I guess when hospital care was more available they got you into bed, the worst position IMO in which to deliver.  If I am in pain I want to walk, like try to put distance between myself and the pain.

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I haven't watched 19K&C in years, but yesterday I watched a few videos of Priscilla and Anna talking, Anna & Josh on their trip to CA (and then home for the big gender reveal) and Michelle and Priscilla purposing to encourage some women who were attending some conference.  Oh, and I also watched a bit of that last pre-scandal interview in the Duggar home, where Anna cried and blamed it on hormones and where many here thought that all the adults knew that Josh's scandal was about to break.  I came away with some observations.

 

1.  Anna is really a sweet and loving person and a good mother.  I feel terrible for her.  She and Josh actually seemed in a good place there right before everything blew up.  

2.  Priscilla is a loon.  She certainly does blather on and on about nothing.  She seems like a total doormat.  She seems to ape Michelle's baby talk and take it to new levels.  She out-Michelles Michelle!

3.  Jim Bob is a dim bulb and John David seems sick of the whole fame thing.

4.  Posters here have a good handle on how wacked out all of this ATI stuff really is.  It sets the cause of women's rights back hundreds of years.  It's dangerous and frightening, especially when they go into politics and try to control others.  I was thinking this morning that I get why people look fondly back on the 50s as a more innocent time.  But in reality, societies evolve and you can't force people back in time or force them to adhere to your way of thinking.  Bottom line is that these people are free to live how they choose (minus the rape culture or other law breaking), but guess what?  They don't get to tell me or anyone else how they should live!

 

My heart breaks for Anna and those cute kids.

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You think she looks uncomfortable? I dunno... when I looked at it before I read your comment (Starving), I actually said, wow - she looks pretty all right for someone a few days over the due date in the July heat. But she's wearing the maxi, got the cankles covered. No ring, so her hands are probably swollen. I think her countenance (counter top) looks like she's keeping it sweet. (Not arguing, just saying I thought she looked pretty ok).

Jessa has BIG FEET!!!

Edited to correct the notion I EVER said "meow" in reference to Anna.

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You think she looks uncomfortable? I dunno... when I looked at it before I read your comment (Starving), I actually said,meow - she looks pretty all right for someone a few days over the due date in the July heat. But she's wearing the maxi, got the cankles covered. No ring, so her hands are probably swollen. I think her countenance (counter top) looks like she's keeping it sweet. (Not arguing, just saying I thought she looked pretty ok).

Jessa has BIG FEET!!!

It's funny how we all look at pictures differently. To me, her face didn't look sweet at all - I saw a gritted teeth smile and eyes that say "I am sick of being dilated 3 cm!" To me she looks more than ready to get that baby out of there! I think a lot of times, how we interpret a picture is influenced by our own experiences, even with the photo "evidence" in front of us.

Jessa does have big feet. I'd never noticed that before.

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K, looked again and I am going to concede her teeth look gritted. Her complexion looks good, and she seems to be maintaining better than I would anyway.

Big ole' feet on Blessa. Every time I go to the pic, I scroll down again to make sure they're still as big as I remembered. This time when I looked at the feet, I'm pretty sure I see marks where she just kicked off her sandals. doesn't appear swollen, just strap marks. I'm glad her feet look normal. I always swore I could forego shoes and just wear the boxes when I was pg. Hub always said I had Flintstone feet :(

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I thought Anna looked good, and clean.  Don't know why they must do the hands under the belly thing.  I hate  it.  It wasn't until well into my working career that I realized many women hated their foot length.  Mine are small, and I thought, for god's sake, of all the things to be envied for, it's my feet.

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Way back when, there was an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where Counselor Troi somehow randomly gets pregnant and has the baby like, the next day. She had it in this cool looking birthing chair, and I thought wow: how come we don't do that in real life? Let gravity help get the baby out? Seems like a no-brainer...

Counselor Troi's child grew up within a week and turned into one of those space 'entities'. Not encouraging.   

They posted this picture on the Duggar Family Official FB page saying she is late for the first time.  

 

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I can't imagine why that baby would be holding back.  

I thought Anna looked good, and clean.  Don't know why they must do the hands under the belly thing.  I hate  it.  It wasn't until well into my working career that I realized many women hated their foot length.  Mine are small, and I thought, for god's sake, of all the things to be envied for, it's my feet.

The best way to draw attention to your pregnancy is to rest one hand on the top of your belly, as though that's it's natural resting place.
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All I see in that picture is a dirty floor.  There is a crayon or something laying on the floor at the step and then there is an empty box under the sofa in the back and the hardwood steps are dusty.  Also the carpet on the steps is frayed.  I can't imagine what the rest of the house looks like.

 

I do think both girls look healthy. 

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All I see in that picture is a dirty floor.  There is a crayon or something laying on the floor at the step and then there is an empty box under the sofa in the back and the hardwood steps are dusty.  Also the carpet on the steps is frayed.  I can't imagine what the rest of the house looks like.

 

I do think both girls look healthy. 

I noticed all that stuff too.

   I also noticed that the french doors in the photo are covered over with paper and there are boxes and other things blocking them.   I have no idea where those doors lead, but I wonder if that is where Josh and Anna are living ?

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All I see in that picture is a dirty floor. There is a crayon or something laying on the floor at the step and then there is an empty box under the sofa in the back and the hardwood steps are dusty. Also the carpet on the steps is frayed. I can't imagine what the rest of the house looks like.

I do think both girls look healthy.

Jessa's standing barefoot in the exact spot where Josie Pooped Her Pants. That's what came to my mind first.

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Jessa's standing barefoot in the exact spot where Josie Pooped Her Pants. That's what came to my mind first.

With the number of kids in that house, I can't imagine there is a single spot on that floor that hasn't been pooped, puked, or peed on.

 

I doubt they clean often, but surely they've mopped since then.

 

 

I thought Anna looked good in the photo. I'm not sure her smile is forced in a "please don't make me take this photo" picture, so much as she just has an awkward smile in posed photos. I think she always looks like that.

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I don't know if we can gauge how Anna feels based on a picture. I'm as pregnant as she is, and despite my being told by total strangers that I'm "all belly" and look oh-so-cute, it's July, I'm hot, and there's still an extra 40 pounds on my frame and a bowling ball on my bladder. They mean well, but I'm feeling punchy.

She might feel fine, and the grimace could be a bad picture, OR she's understandably uncomfortable.

Either way, I wish for her a safe delivery and healthy child. My own OB is careful not to let babies go too far post-term;I hope she's getting equally good, legit prenatal care. It shouldn't be some kind of luxury, despite my feelings about her husband and in-laws.

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Either way, I wish for her a safe delivery and healthy child. My own OB is careful not to let babies go too far post-term;I hope she's getting equally good, legit prenatal care. It shouldn't be some kind of luxury, despite my feelings about her husband and in-laws.

These are the same bunch of people who saw meconium with Israel and thought "meh, no big deal."

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These are the same bunch of people who saw meconium with Israel and thought "meh, no big deal."

I hope Anna doesn't go much longer before popping out M4.  There is no telling what type of care she is getting now that she is back in  Duggarland.  

 

My first (over 20 years ago) was the size of Izzy and I was only a few days late.  I took castor oil because so many relatives talked about how it was routinely used way back when.  Yes, labor started and I went to the hospital.  After a few hours, the doctor told me I had the meconium problem and recommend a c-section.  I didn't argue for one moment.  I was actually terrified of childbirth.  

 

I often wondered if the castor oil caused the situation.  If I had the internet back then, I probably would have not taken it.  I know people still do but it seems to be a bit of a concern and a debatable subject.  Not condemning anyone that does.

 

Don't want to see Anna in the same situation as Jill. I really hope she has a qualified person on board for this delivery because I agree that M4 does NOT want to enter Duggarland.  Can anyone blame her?

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I read feet and those with long toes (Sometimes!)tend to be less honest than those with shorter toes. (Of course there can be exceptions and I have no degree to prove my point).  Also, when the second toe is as long or longer than the big toe that person will be the boss in their family and tends to be dishonest.  Looks like Jessa, in my feet reading opinion, will be the actual boss in her family and may do a little more than stretch the truth now and then. 

 

Besides that why do they have to hold their pregnant stomachs in every picture?  They're not the only people who have ever gotten pregnant and we would all actually notice without it being held out for us.  

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The poses in that are pic are Pinterest Poses...they both also have Pinterest Hair.  Anna has a Pinterest French pedicure .

 

They have ruined knit maxi-skirts for me forever....hate.

 

I think Jessa's skirt has a side-entry pocket with a huge-ass button on it. At first I thought it was a little North-South pocket with a condom hanging out.

 

They do look sorta cute...but where are the Pinterest Chalkboards? ...with Jessa's saying how many minutes pregnant she is and Anna's saying "overdue".

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The poses in that are pic are Pinterest Poses...they both also have Pinterest Hair.  Anna has a Pinterest French pedicure .

 

They have ruined knit maxi-skirts for me forever....hate.

 

I think Jessa's skirt has a side-entry pocket with a huge-ass button on it. At first I thought it was a little North-South pocket with a condom hanging out.

 

They do look sorta cute...but where are the Pinterest Chalkboards? ...with Jessa's saying how many minutes pregnant she is and Anna's saying "overdue".

Jill took all the chalkboards with her...

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