Jessa, Ben and Their Brood: Making a (Diaper) Mountain out of a Mold House

[Ohiopirate02]

2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

So I see the oatmeal fad is still going strong. 

In Jessa's defense, it is fall and the colors look appropriate with the leaves.  

[StaceyNotStacie]

Those are nice pictures of the family. Fern has pretty blue eyes. 

[Boston]

On 11/25/2021 at 10:32 PM, Cinnabon said:

True - he sounds like a little Damien in the making 😂. Even though Spurgeon has always had Damien’s looks.

Children of the corn - god forgive me

On 11/28/2021 at 6:19 PM, emmawoodhouse said:

Right Jessa. Keep shoving that happy family narrative down our throats.🙄

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW1mqEMrUMX/?utm_medium=copy_link

They're a mess.

[BigBingerBro]

She needs to just stop tousling the boy's hair and comb/cut it into a neat style.

Edited November 30, 2021 by BigBingerBro

[emmawoodhouse]

Just now, BigBingerBro said:

She needs to just stop tousling the boy's hair and comb/cut it into a neat style.

Ivy too. Jessa is letting her hair grow out. I don't know how it's not a tangled mess of "tousled" curls. 

[cmr2014]

4 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Ivy too. Jessa is letting her hair grow out. I don't know how it's not a tangled mess of "tousled" curls. 

She really should just cut Ivy's hair. She appears to have very fine hair (like Josie), and that's very difficult to care for when it's long. Since Jessa has zero interest in caring for her children's grooming (outside of photo shoots), it would just make sense to keep it short.

Obviously, that will never happen, because somehow it would make Jesus cry to see a girl with short hair.

[sagittarius sue]

3 hours ago, Stacey1014 said:

Those are nice pictures of the family. Fern has pretty blue eyes. 

If only she had a pretty dress!  Jessa, talk to Abby about cute dresses for your girls.

[LilJen]

On 11/28/2021 at 6:19 PM, emmawoodhouse said:

Right Jessa. Keep shoving that happy family narrative down our throats.🙄

https://www.instagram.com/p/CW1mqEMrUMX/?utm_medium=copy_link

I do appreciate that one poster suggested “I choo choo choose you” (tm Ralph Wiggums) 😂

[Jynnan tonnix]

On 11/30/2021 at 11:33 AM, Ohiopirate02 said:

In Jessa's defense, it is fall and the colors look appropriate with the leaves.  

I rather like the color scheme...it sort of gives the vibe of a sepia-tone photo while still allowing for a bit of color. I suppose that's why it seems to be pretty popular in general. It probably photographs well.

[Nysha]

1 hour ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

I rather like the color scheme...it sort of gives the vibe of a sepia-tone photo while still allowing for a bit of color. I suppose that's why it seems to be pretty popular in general. It probably photographs well.

I do, too. The only thing I would have done differently is put Spurgeon in a darker sweater so he and Fern don't blend into each other.

And I know I'm in the minority, but I like Spurgeon and Henry's tousled/messy curled locks. I would like them, and Ivy's hair, better if Jessa would properly groom her children regularly, though.

[Churchhoney]

17 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

I rather like the color scheme...it sort of gives the vibe of a sepia-tone photo while still allowing for a bit of color. I suppose that's why it seems to be pretty popular in general. It probably photographs well.

Plus, it has the nostalgia feel.....the old sepia-toned stuff....Makes everybody think we're in the good old days -- when we believe, contrary to all reason, that things were wonderful. 😁

[Dehumidifier]

On 11/30/2021 at 8:54 AM, awaken said:

I actually like the photos!  Fern has a different look than the rest of the family. 

She reminds me of Ruby Bentall, the woman who played Verity in Poldark. They don't actually look alike (I just checked.) They both have old-fashioned looking faces, if that makes any sense?

[Nysha]

3 hours ago, Dehumidifier said:

She reminds me of Ruby Bentall, the woman who played Verity in Poldark. They don't actually look alike (I just checked.) They both have old-fashioned looking faces, if that makes any sense?

I agree, plus you may have just provided a name for JinJer's next daughter - Verity.

[Dehumidifier]

2 hours ago, Nysha said:

I agree, plus you may have just provided a name for JinJer's next daughter - Verity.

I like that name. I suggested it for my recently born niece, to no avail  Verity Vuolo, nickname VeeVee. Cute.

[Cinnabon]

9 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Plus, it has the nostalgia feel.....the old sepia-toned stuff....Makes everybody think we're in the good old days -- when we believe, contrary to all reason, that things were wonderful. 😁

What WAS wonderful was the lack of awareness of these kinds of attention seeking famewhores. In some ways, ignorance is bliss!

[iwantcookies]

Life before smart phones and internet was bliss to me!

[Cinnabon]

1 minute ago, iwantcookies said:

Life before smart phones and internet was bliss to me!

Yes! I’m trying very hard to limit them more, at least SM. It can be toxic.

[Nysha]

1 hour ago, iwantcookies said:

Life before smart phones and internet was bliss to me!

I love the Internet because I love to read and it's basically a free library,  but I have a love/hate relationship with my phone. I also have a love/hate relationship with Social Media. 

[emmawoodhouse]

Ben snuck in a little LGBTQ bashing on YT today. 

 

[Cinnabon]

58 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Ben snuck in a little LGBTQ bashing on YT today. 

 

Does he know about King James?

[GeeGolly]

7 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Ben snuck in a little LGBTQ bashing on YT today. 

 

I made it 3 minutes. It was all fuck you Ben and friend until then. Did it get any better?

[Ijustwantsomechips]

Considering how his marriage appears to us on this forum, he may have been better off being attracted to a man. 

[Nysha]

9 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

Does he know about King James?

I didn't until I was a professed atheist. And wouldn't have believed it when I was a professed xtian.

Because I was raised by fundy xtians with the same beliefs as Ben I've had a 'it's not that big of a deal' attitude toward him, Jeremy, and others. After reading about what his sex pervert brother-in-law was watching, that tolerance has ended. 

These hypocrites need to start with condemning real sexual sin like child sex abusers and the degenerates who watch CSAM, sex traffickers and their clientele, rapists (anal and otherwise), and people who cause real harm and pain to others. Until that happens they're just perpetuating hate and discontent which is the exact opposite of what their chosen god demanded of its followers.  

[Westiepeach]

1 hour ago, Nysha said:

I didn't until I was a professed atheist. And wouldn't have believed it when I was a professed xtian.

I read that as a "professional atheist." I, for a fleeting moment, wondered how one could become professional...

[Cinnabon]

47 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

I read that as a "professional atheist." I, for a fleeting moment, wondered how one could become professional...

I’ll send you the details about our next meeting 😆

[emmawoodhouse]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I made it 3 minutes. It was all fuck you Ben and friend until then. Did it get any better?

Your instinct to turn it off was correct. I didn't get much further, but it was bs like you can't be right with Jesus until you cast away your sin of homosexual attraction. The usual fundie crap. 

Interesting that he held onto this until the trial. It was filmed at the same conference as his first video that he posted around a month (maybe 2?) ago. 

[Churchhoney]

2 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Your instinct to turn it off was correct. I didn't get much further, but it was bs like you can't be right with Jesus until you cast away your sin of homosexual attraction. The usual fundie crap. 

Interesting that he held onto this until the trial. It was filmed at the same conference as his first video that he posted around a month (maybe 2?) ago. 

Gotta get out there and remind people that there are far worse sexual sins than the ones Josh is being falsely accused of here. Not that Bin has the slightest clue of what he is being accused of.  😬

[ginger90]

Sexual immorality…….see trial notes, Ben.

[emmawoodhouse]

Ben posted a generic statement. It's in his IG stories if someone more savvy than I can copy it.

[Westiepeach]

3 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Ben posted a generic statement. It's in his IG stories if someone more savvy than I can copy it.

 

[Tikichick]

7 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

 

Reads very similar in tone to other statements coming from the family. 

The last line might point to a possible pulling of punches so as not to salt wounds.   Anna's?  JB & M's? 

[emmawoodhouse]

I am not surprised that they gloss over the elephant in the room: the molestations.

[Zella]

At least whoever wrote it didn't continue with the "all porn is equally bad" reasoning that Jessa used when the arrest was first announced. 

[Temperance]

16 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

I am not surprised that they gloss over the elephant in the room: the molestations.

Jessa shouldn't have to discuss her own abuse, even if she already has.

[Cinnabon]

17 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

I am not surprised that they gloss over the elephant in the room: the molestations.

Bin can’t afford to piss off JB since he and Jessa remain dependent on him. Pathetic.

[emmawoodhouse]

10 hours ago, Temperance said:

Jessa shouldn't have to discuss her own abuse, even if she already has.

Ir could have been mentioned in the way Jeremy couched it. Just a way to acknowledge ALL of the victims, not just the babies in the CSAM. 

[Insert Username]

It is Jessa’s trauma to address or not as she sees fit. She owes us nothing. I think what most of us see as bitchiness is her reaction to that trauma. Trauma that she was forced to share with the world against her will. Everyone processes trauma differently and there is no right way.  I think a lot of her attitude during the Megyn Kelly interview was that she just did not want to talk about it and was being forced to address it publicly. She clearly wanted to be left alone. I get it - I do not like sharing and get can get brittle and withdrawn when pushed and impatient with emotional people. 
 

The fact that she, Jill, Joy, and Jinger all seem to be aligned is promising that she has heard the unvarnished truth (possibly for the first time)  Again though, she owes us nothing.

[Tuxcat]

I put this in the Jana thread too. Wasn't sure where it should go. 

 

[emmawoodhouse]

Responded to it in the other thread, but it bears repeating that Jessa chose to be in the public eye for (supposed) compensation. 

[lascuba]

Granted, I haven't read the entire internet on this topic, but the general tone seems to be more understanding towards Jana and blaming everyone else. People are talking about it because, yes, 19 Convicts and Counting has a nice ring to it, but also, since NO ONE HAS SAID WHAT HAPPENED, there's nothing to do but snarkily speculate. So good call, Jessa, on clarifying that a kid slipped out the door. You could have left it at that without the overwrought defense of The Amazing Jana. 

[Cinnabon]

34 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

I put this in the Jana thread too. Wasn't sure where it should go. 

 

Keep crying, Jessa.

19 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Responded to it in the other thread, but it bears repeating that Jessa chose to be in the public eye for (supposed) compensation. 

Exactly. They want it both ways. To stay famous and over share, except for the things that may reflect negatively on them. Sorry, you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

[lascuba]

Imagine how fun Jessa's attitude would be if she didn't waste it on stupid shit like this. 

[GeeGolly]

I would have cut Jessa some slack, just thinking she was displaying some misdirected anger after a tough couple of weeks, but that last line was a bit too much.

Bullies are always the most sensitive to criticism.

[emmawoodhouse]

Yup. That last sentence was Jessa the Condescending Bitch to a tee.

[Nysha]

On 12/12/2021 at 4:45 PM, Insert Username said:

It is Jessa’s trauma to address or not as she sees fit. She owes us nothing. I think what most of us see as bitchiness is her reaction to that trauma. Trauma that she was forced to share with the world against her will. Everyone processes trauma differently and there is no right way.  I think a lot of her attitude during the Megyn Kelly interview was that she just did not want to talk about it and was being forced to address it publicly. She clearly wanted to be left alone. I get it - I do not like sharing and get can get brittle and withdrawn when pushed and impatient with emotional people. 

This is what I believe, also. While I agree that her attitude is everything that has been mentioned here, she has unhealed childhood trauma. Bobye Holt stated that Josh confessed to sexually abusing the girls starting when he was 12 and lasting until he was 15. I don't for one minute believe all of the girls were asleep all of the time, so between 9 and 12 Jessa was being molested while sleeping/pretending to sleep. Her childhood was spent taking care of siblings, being abused physically, emotionally, and educationally abused by her parents, and learning that her only worth was being a brood mare for the correct Jesus. 

While the coping mechanisms she used to survive as a child are not helping her as an adult who wants to be a social media influencer, I don't expect they're going to go away b/c she's still just surviving. 

Edited December 14, 2021 by Nysha

[ginger90]

I wonder if Jessa had permission to post that. Did Jana and Jim Bob approve?

[GeeGolly]

44 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I wonder if Jessa had permission to post that. Did Jana and Jim Bob approve?

I wouldn't be surprised if she was sitting in the TTH when she posted it.

[BetyBee]

I'd probably defend my sister in much the same way as Jessa. Fortunately we're not in the public eye. 

[lascuba]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I wouldn't be surprised if she was sitting in the TTH when she posted it.

Absolutely. The sisters use Jessa as their heavy so they could keep up their "sweet" images that even people who supposedly hate their patriarchal beliefs eat up. Like when Jinger pretended that Jessa made all the decorating decisions after she noticed that Jeremy hated what they did with his apartment. 

I don't see Jessa's statement--tone deaf and out-of-proportion as it was--as a sign of her being a bully. She's angry and is lashing out at all the criticism thrown at her family. If Anna and Jill get pass after pass for their bullshit because "brainwashed!", I don't see why Jessa isn't allowed to have unsuppressed emotions during what is an obviously extremely stressful time. 

[ginger90]

Who knows what kind of messages Jessa was getting.