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The entire Catfishing debacle has been entertaining for several reasons- it is undeniably satisfying to see the Brown family exposed and their perfect, happy facade ruined. Like rubbernecking at an accident, it was hard to turn away from the disturbing nature of someone that would go to such extreme lengths to pretend they were someone they weren't, even in the face of hard evidence that proves without a shadow of a doubt who their true identidy is. However, looking at someone's arm with a name scratched into the skin, and borderline pornographic photos of someone's ( assumably Meri's) nipples protruding from their blouse, crosses over from harmlessly curious into macabre. I don't find it that difficult to believe that Meri was so needy and lonely that she would latch on to an attentive, complementary type person over the Internet. The depravity Jackie Overton has shown by continuing this fantasy world is so disturbing that it overshadows any enjoyment I got from he whole debacle. The end result has been sad, depressing, and leaves a bad taste in my mouth regarding the whole thing.

 

I agree, unless Overton inserted the creepier bits herself.  The letters may have been written by someone else and the arm with Sam's name in on it might not even be Meri's.  But if genuine, the rest of those photos and voicemails are more than enough to feel very sad for Meri.  I think it's despicable that Kodouche has tried to push forth this "we're all one big happy family" lie to the public while there is obviously a lot of hurt and pain going on among his wives all because they don't get enough love and attention from their husband.  In fact that makes me so angry I could spit.  It just confirms every negative thing we here were thinking and posting all along from day one with this series.  It really is true.  These women are oppressed and allowing themselves to be so because they are being brainwashed by religion to serve the needs of one selfish and self serving man.  It's sickening.

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OK, can someone elaborate on this for someone who has unfortunately not read this entire thread.  Who is Danny Gokey and what was her boy band crush/groupie behavior?  With the catfish stuff and this....sure sounds like she took the divorce as more than just a "legal" one.

van lady love (or something like that) played at their commitment ceremony. After that, meri started following them around (literally), tweeting about them around a 100 times a day. They have CD s for sale on MSWC.

Danny gokey was on American idol a few seasons back. He is a good Mormon boy. He is from Utah. He sends godly tweets, which meri retweets on a regular basis. I don't know this for sure, but I think he performs at Mormon gatherings. Meri likes to keep up with his comings and goings.

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I am a webmaster.  Traceroute will give you the IP address of the webserver, not the person that owns the domain name and uploads content to it.  Further, if you have a website, you can send email directly from it, such that the email headers also look like they come from the same server.  It's not at all surprising that the website and her email trace to the same IP, and that IP is not that of her home device.

 

SWC and Jackie could be using the same large web host.  Have you xwhois'd their respective web hosts?

 

     Thanks TS., no I was bored that day and playing with software, it was interesting in that moment but it's not that interesting in general, although anyone here is certainly free to snoop on it as much as they want.  There's things that don't add up in this catfish story. Blog has a photo Meri supposedly sent of of all things, bruised knees?  http://i1.wp.com/www.notbatmanyet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/38.jpg

Make of that what you will

 here's another weird thing, whoever runs that blog seems to be a robin apologist-

 

Samuel says:

November 9, 2015 at 2:51 pm

My lawyer emailed me this morning with that information. I’m sure it’s public knowledge and not insider info.

I do not understand why people do not like Robyn. She hasn’t done anything but become a part of the family and actually help calm things down.

       

 

I am wondering if any of this is real, is she being threatened with extortion or blackmailed- now they have tv money, if it were truly something like that they have lawyers to make it go away. Slander and libel only apply when it is made-up, not when it is true. These people have enough money to make this blog go away if they wanted it to, but something is wrong either way

1) it's not slander or libel so they can't make the person take it down?

2) their own hand is in it somehow because

3) if it was all BS and they could shut it down they would wouldn't they?

 

Like if photos were being used without permission, but if she sent them on her phone. Even if she did not give permission to publish, what does he have that he (he she whatever)  is holding over her head that they have not been able to shut  this down?

 

why havent the browns had that blog taken down?

why does the blog person continually defend robin and kody and remain creepily neutral about them if he/she really loved Meri?

would meri send super racy photos to someone she never saw even on camera?

 

http://i1.wp.com/www.notbatmanyet.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/62.jpg

 

Bruised knees photo when the catfish supposedly is a woman? 

 

Not saying JO didnt catfish anyone, she obviously has in the past- so reputation already tarnished, maybe she could be paid to take credit- both could be true

if someone  else either 1) didnt want the credit/blame like one of robin's friends 2) if there is some guy, maybe not this blog person 'sam' but the guy is out there or feeding stuff to the blog person to put out there. There's things that just do not add up. I'm not sure I buy this story- I havent seen anything as far as how anyone found out about JO. Like I said,  both thigs could be true, JO could be a catfish, one who was paid since she already has a history of this- to cover up something real- in any case, it is just getting to the point where almost everything that happens on the show I look at as fiction, like a soap opera = not real. It just feels like it is either half real or total BS at this point but as far as us being told what is really up, something isn't right with this whole story.

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I am wondering if any of this is real, is she being threatened with extortion or blackmailed- now they have tv money, if it were truly something like that they have lawyers to make it go away. Slander and libel only apply when it is made-up, not when it is true. These people have enough money to make this blog go away if they wanted it to, but something is wrong either way

1) it's not slander or libel so they can't make the person take it down?

2) their own hand is in it somehow because

3) if it was all BS and they could shut it down they would wouldn't they?

 

Like if photos were being used without permission, but if she sent them on her phone. Even if she did not give permission to publish, what does he have that he (he she whatever)  is holding over her head that they have not been able to shut  this down?

 

why havent the browns had that blog taken down?

why does the blog person continually defend robin and kody and remain creepily neutral about them if he/she really loved Meri?

would meri send super racy photos to someone she never saw even on camera?

 

I have started to wonder about these things myself.   The sex tape claim made by "Sam" in particular is something Meri should have come out swinging over.  Why would she let this person keep saying these things about her?   "Sam" claims she committed full-blown adultery.  How can she let that slide? 

 

Originally I thought maybe Meri was not doing anything because she didn't want to draw attention to what she had been involved in.  But since it is going to be featured on the show, that reason no longer exists.  So if they don't take steps to shut this catfish person down once it's on the show, it is going to be very hard for me to understand why. 

 

I wonder if they will mention it and the pictures and voicemails from Meri on the show tonight, or if they will just stick with the "Meri got catfished" story, and ignore the nut ass things the catfish has been posting online for months now.  It's a big part of the story, but I would understand not wanting to encourage viewers to reward the Catfish with attention.  Especially if I were going to take action to shut it down.  There is no reason to publicize its existence.  Not unless they want people to know about it, that is.

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Or she'll just put it on Kindle herself, maybe? I guess Amazon is the "publisher" she has "lined up". Hmmph. I have a couple of acquaintances who've done that.

My guess is that she's planning to self publish via Amazon and/or one of the other e-publishing platforms, OR she's found a vanity publisher-- there are a couple of them that promise the moon, suck up your money, and deliver little to nothing, other than delivering big piles of books that can't be sold except maybe out of the trunk of her car. I'm truly hoping for the latter!!

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Looks like Jackie fessed up. (Edit - I thought that was Jackie initially but it is a Meri voicemail - however as stated its posted to Overton's YT account.)

http://www.notbatmanyet.com/?p=2218

She just now posted a long coda to the above. But the YT video is posted to Overton's "Bossy Pants" account. The same one which had videos of Overton and her previous catfish victim Stacey.

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Looks like Jackie fessed up. (Edit - I thought that was Jackie initially but it is a Meri voicemail - however as stated its posted to Overton's YT account.)

http://www.notbatmanyet.com/?p=2218

She just now posted a long coda to the above. But the YT video is posted to Overton's "Bossy Pants" account. The same one which had videos of Overton and her previous catfish victim Stacey.

Wow, that's quite a read! And quite a dramatic ending : I am still in love with her. She is an amazing woman. And I’m pretty sure the next time I see Meri, we will be in court.

(Now playing the world smallest violin)

 

I got to give it to her, Jackie knows how to craft a story.

There is a load of bulls in there but some details are interesting (at least to me!) and seem real.

Did we knew Kody melted his wedding band? I have a shite memory so I'm not sure it was adressed in previous seasons.

She told me the last straw for her was when he took the wedding band that she gave him during their wedding ceremony and melted it down. He told her he didn’t want it to be a contention point with the other wives, so he had it melted down and put into a piece of jewelry for another daughter, not her daughter. She said she is a sentimental person and when he did that, it showed her how much the marriage meant to him, which was nothing. She said it hurt her feelings because he could have given it back to her to hold onto for her daughter’s future husband or at least let her have it for keepsake. That was years ago she told me and she told me how upsetting it was for her. It really hurt.

 

If Kody really did that, he mastered the dick move! Not that we didn't already know that but the length of his dickness is astonishing.

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Wow, that was quite a read. Sam's knickers must really be in a twist!

So he was basically in live blogging/rant mode for 10,000 words, going through the show scene by scene reacting, reminiscing, and trying to expose little cracks in Meri' story to shoot her down. And Meri's main offense: she used the word "bastard" which proves she knows he's a man. Also Meri's use of the plural "they" proves she is lying because at some other point she used a singular pronoun to describe who she was involved with.

And Sam wants us all to know that he is sure of the exact wording Meri used because his lawyers delivered to him a transcript of everything Meri said on the show. On a Sunday night, after ten pm. Because these lawyers have nothing better to do late on a Sunday night than see that this stupid show is transcribed and rushed to Sam. Seriously?

That was a really stupid lie to tell ... utterly transparent and completely unnecessary, furthering the story in no way at all. It's ironic that in the rush to show Meri is being dishonest, the only liar "Sam" managed to expose is himself.

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At the risk of sounding like a kid who didn't do her homework and wants to copy from her smarter friends...I have to admit, all these catfish details have my head spinning.  Kudos to you that understand what happened with Meri - I want to see if I'm on the same page.

 

1. Meri started an online flirtation with someone named "Sam," but Sam was really Jackie Overton.

2. Whenever Meri went to meet up with Sam, she ended up meeting with someone named Lindsey, who was supposedly Sam's assistant.

 

Who, exactly, was Lindsey?  Was Lindsey actually Jackie (who was actually Sam)?  I keep seeing a picture of Meri and Jackie (taken as Disney, I believe).  And Meri has a big smile on her face.  Did Meri think that Jackie was Lindsey at that time?  And how and when did Jackie reveal herself to be Sam?  Or did Meri figure it out on her own somehow?

 

Yes, I am flunking Catfish 101 and need help on my test.  This stuff is confusing!

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Looks like Jackie fessed up. (Edit - I thought that was Jackie initially but it is a Meri voicemail - however as stated its posted to Overton's YT account.)

http://www.notbatmanyet.com/?p=2218

She just now posted a long coda to the above. But the YT video is posted to Overton's "Bossy Pants" account. The same one which had videos of Overton and her previous catfish victim Stacey.

When I hit that link, all I see is a link to YouTube. Is the screed taken down already??

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Can someone point me to the "tough read" mentioned above? All I can see is the link to Meri's very sad VM that makes me wish Overton was a male so I could kick him in a sensitive region. What a sicko. Because I guess I'm not angry enough, I would like to read the statement alluded to above. I imagine it is right in front of me somewhere but I am not seeing it.

Thanks!

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That blog is just. Wow. I have three theories. 1. This person is flat out nuts and making up everything. (Sex 60 times, walks. I thought they never actually met.) 2. She really was involved with a man. Or 3. Robyn is behind the whole thing and is nuts. Because it makes no sense. She says it was a woman but this person is saying they slept together. The random defense of Robyn out of nowhere. I just don't get it. I didn't even read the whole thing, it made me feel gross. Just ramblings.

I could see Robyn being the blogger. Making it up, etc. But that's just my over active imagination. I'm sure. I'd never read anything about it other than what is posted here, so forgive me if I'm way behind on this. Haha

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Can someone point me to the "tough read" mentioned above? All I can see is the link to Meri's very sad VM that makes me wish Overton was a male so I could kick him in a sensitive region. What a sicko. Because I guess I'm not angry enough, I would like to read the statement alluded to above. I imagine it is right in front of me somewhere but I am not seeing it.

Thanks!

Click on the link. At the bottom, there is an arrow that will lead you to the most recent post. I think it's called "2nd Response to Last Night" or something similar.

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Who leaves so much deeply personal information on a freakin' voice mail?  Am I the only one who thinks this is CRAZY?!  I guess I don't have to leave these profound voice mails for my boyfriend because I speak to him in person.  When I see him.  Every day.  Because he's a real human being.

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Who leaves so much deeply personal information on a freakin' voice mail?  Am I the only one who thinks this is CRAZY?!  I guess I don't have to leave these profound voice mails for my boyfriend because I speak to him in person.  When I see him.  Every day.  Because he's a real human being.

And you just have the one boyfriend you say? What a way to live!

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Can someone point me to the "tough read" mentioned above? All I can see is the link to Meri's very sad VM that makes me wish Overton was a male so I could kick him in a sensitive region. What a sicko. Because I guess I'm not angry enough, I would like to read the statement alluded to above. I imagine it is right in front of me somewhere but I am not seeing it.

Thanks!

 

 

http://www.notbatmanyet.com/?p=2226

 

Here is a direct link

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At the risk of sounding like a kid who didn't do her homework and wants to copy from her smarter friends...I have to admit, all these catfish details have my head spinning.  Kudos to you that understand what happened with Meri - I want to see if I'm on the same page.

 

1. Meri started an online flirtation with someone named "Sam," but Sam was really Jackie Overton.

2. Whenever Meri went to meet up with Sam, she ended up meeting with someone named Lindsey, who was supposedly Sam's assistant.

 

Who, exactly, was Lindsey?  Was Lindsey actually Jackie (who was actually Sam)?  I keep seeing a picture of Meri and Jackie (taken as Disney, I believe).  And Meri has a big smile on her face.  Did Meri think that Jackie was Lindsey at that time?  And how and when did Jackie reveal herself to be Sam?  Or did Meri figure it out on her own somehow?

 

Yes, I am flunking Catfish 101 and need help on my test.  This stuff is confusing!

Yes...Jackie Overton is a horrible excuse for a human being and she has been catfishing women on the internet for years.  She would pretend to be Sam and then when Sam couldnt make a meeting he sent his 'assistant' Lindsey.  Jackie Overton played all the parts of this play.

 

I dont think we know for sure when or how Meri figured out Sam was full of shit because 'Sam' is the only one talking and he/she/it is a certifiable psychopath.

 

This blog outlines a lot of Jackie Overtons catfishing history   https://nickoconner.wordpress.com/

 

http://jackieovertonisacatfish.weebly.com/proof-that-jackie-is-jaxon.html This is a good site for screen caps of all the times Jackie has been caught in lies...she cannot keep her stories straight.

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Thanks for the help, Schmoopy and Justagirlintheworld. I see now where I need to go, but I am getting a error message re: establishing a database connection. :(

Pooh. I will try again later.

ETA: yay, I got in!

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Holy cats! How much time did Jackie spend on that steam of consciousness THAT IS NOT EVEN TRUE?? I could almost believe that some mental illness took over and she just ran with a huge load of self-delusion that she somehow believes. Like she really did build some kind of fantasy love affair in her head. Until after about a million words, she starts contradicting herself. Not to mention, no one would ever reveal all this private info about someone they loved.

Geez, I sound as crazy and rambling as Jackie does. I am just flabbergasted. All that effort - for a lie!

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At the risk of sounding like a kid who didn't do her homework and wants to copy from her smarter friends...I have to admit, all these catfish details have my head spinning. Kudos to you that understand what happened with Meri - I want to see if I'm on the same page.

1. Meri started an online flirtation with someone named "Sam," but Sam was really Jackie Overton.

2. Whenever Meri went to meet up with Sam, she ended up meeting with someone named Lindsey, who was supposedly Sam's assistant.

Who, exactly, was Lindsey? Was Lindsey actually Jackie (who was actually Sam)? I keep seeing a picture of Meri and Jackie (taken as Disney, I believe). And Meri has a big smile on her face. Did Meri think that Jackie was Lindsey at that time? And how and when did Jackie reveal herself to be Sam? Or did Meri figure it out on her own somehow?

Yes, I am flunking Catfish 101 and need help on my test. This stuff is confusing!

It's the story of my life here, I'm too lazy to follow all the links, and even when I do I get confused by timelines, who posted what when etc, so I do count on the wonderful people here, they can usually give insight, or point me to reputable timelines, I'm really not sure how I watched tv before this site (I probably didn't get emotionally involved) besides all of that everyone here is so freaking funny, we should do something like the people's couch...lol.

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OK, can someone elaborate on this for someone who has unfortunately not read this entire thread.  Who is Danny Gokey and what was her boy band crush/groupie behavior?  With the catfish stuff and this....sure sounds like she took the divorce as more than just a "legal" one.

 

 

van lady love (or something like that) played at their commitment ceremony. After that, meri started following them around (literally), tweeting about them around a 100 times a day. They have CD s for sale on MSWC.

Danny gokey was on American idol a few seasons back. He is a good Mormon boy. He is from Utah. He sends godly tweets, which meri retweets on a regular basis. I don't know this for sure, but I think he performs at Mormon gatherings. Meri likes to keep up with his comings and goings.

Danny Gokey isn't Mormon or from Utah: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Gokey

 

Something about MSWC I find ironic is that the "Fidelis" necklace Kody designed for Meri is still up for sale on the website.

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I know its completely crazy, but if I ran into that half-faced guy in the gray t-shirt pictured on Batman's blog,  it would take all my strength to resist the urge to kick him in the balls.

 

This poor guy has absolutely nothing to do with all this, I am sure. He would likely be horrified to learn his image had been appropriated by a psycho catfisher as part of some nefarious scheme.  But I have come to associate that gorgeous face with all this horrible behavior and I sorta hate that guy.

 

Is it just me? 

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What's bizarre to me is how the catfisher keeps posting messages and photos and reactions on the blog as if any of what they've posted proves 1) they're a guy and 2) Meri had sex with him. When in fact, the only thing any of what they've posted so far proves is that she thought it was a guy and thought she was having an online affair with him. 

 

Someone asked the blogger to post either a photo of himself holding a paper with the date on it or a photo of them together and of course they said something vague about other photos were coming. 

 

They have to know by not responding to those (very simple) requests, they've outed themselves, so either they really are crazy or are damn stubborn to keep this up. At this point, since we all now she's been catfished, I have to assume the continued revealing of info/pics are just in order to humiliate and/or hurt her. 

 

That's sad to me. 

I've never been catfished, but I have in the past been in a vulnerable position with an online relationship situation, and it can be intense and painful and can make you feel incredibly weird because you have the "it wasn't real, it was just on the Internet" thing looming over you at all times. It can be very confusing and hurtful. I feel for her. 

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I know its completely crazy, but if I ran into that half-faced guy in the gray t-shirt pictured on Batman's blog,  it would take all my strength to resist the urge to kick him in the balls.

 

This poor guy has absolutely nothing to do with all this, I am sure. He would likely be horrified to learn his image had been appropriated by a psycho catfisher as part of some nefarious scheme.  But I have come to associate that gorgeous face with all this horrible behavior and I sorta hate that guy.

 

Is it just me? 

 

 

This is the same dude, right? https://twitter.com/NotBatmanIRobin/status/657631973708582912

 

I mean as I said before, I think there is some BS to this whole thing. Not sure what story is real at this point. Still have not heard HOW they found out re JO, have not seen that anywhere.

If there is a real guy, the word 'guy' in this context meaning born with male apparatus, with an XY chromosome, whether it is this dude in the pics or some other dude, why wouldn't he come forward? Why waste all this time writing all this stuff, that only shows (if it is even true, like the melted-down ring etc) that someone told the blog writer that stuff? It also isn't lost on me who is the fictional Batman's sidekick- although the 'yet' part of the blog name could mean batman is umm , in transition, you know, like Caitlyn. Why is it watching this show is like eating bad carbs, you never really feel full. Or is that the point of it?

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I would love to know if Kody is actually more charismatic or attractive or has a magic wand (no gross pun intended) in person. I can't imagine falling for his BS, or continuing with it for as long as these women have. Most of the kids seem to see right through it.

My daughter in law and I speculate about this. We don't know what the draw is to Kody. I said maybe he has a "trick" the woman like. Sending brain bleach to everyone.

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Did Meri do naked Skype digital stimulation with the man the catfish had pose as Sam? Yeah, gross, but that's how I'm thinking they "had sex." Also, if I'm contemplating sex with a new man (like Meri I've been married 25 yrs), then I'm losing weight!

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Did Meri do naked Skype digital stimulation with the man the catfish had pose as Sam? Yeah, gross, but that's how I'm thinking they "had sex." Also, if I'm contemplating sex with a new man (like Meri I've been married 25 yrs), then I'm losing weight!

I can't see Meri doing that.

When JO says they had sex, I'm figuring it's just some dirty talk or sexting.

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Hmm,,,you may be right. They are prudish about talk of sex...but, then again, I never would have imagined Meri, or any of the women for that matter, having an emotional affair with someone else. She was rather desperate. I mean, allowing herself to be verbally abused by the catfisher? Desperate.

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I finally broke down and looked at the pictures Meri sent to Jackie/Sam/Batman.

Oh, Meri....yeah, you probably shouldn't have done that.

I haven't seen any of them except the bruised-knee pic. Is her face shown in any? Are we sure they are her? Poor woman. I hope she figures things out and doesn't get into any more situations where she has to beg someone to pay attention or not be mad at her. I really dislike people who manipulate others by granting or withholding affection and both Kody and "Sam" seem expert at it. I realize "Sam" was being extra dickish and had other motives, and that Kody may not be doing it fully consciously. No matter; no one needs to tolerate that crap. I wish Meri well in developing a life that makes her happy.

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I haven't seen any of them except the bruised-knee pic. Is her face shown in any? Are we sure they are her? 

Yes, we are totally, absolutely, 125991% sure it's her. We see everything that's showable: face, knees, feet, hands, cleavage. And things you can't unsee like Meri eating suggestively a banana. I'm still cringing at that one. This burned my retina, I dreamed of it, I can never forget that. Never. 

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Yes, we are totally, absolutely, 125991% sure it's her. We see everything that's showable: face, knees, feet, hands, cleavage. And things you can't unsee like Meri eating suggestively a banana. I'm still cringing at that one. This burned my retina, I dreamed of it, I can never forget that. Never.

Oh, dear :(

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Yes, we are totally, absolutely, 125991% sure it's her. We see everything that's showable: face, knees, feet, hands, cleavage. And things you can't unsee like Meri eating suggestively a banana. I'm still cringing at that one. This burned my retina, I dreamed of it, I can never forget that. Never. 

 

UGH!! I didn't even know there were pictures but this description nearly had me hurling. EWWWW!!! Pass the brain bleach!

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I refuse to click any links that lead to that thing's webpage.

 

Nope, not contributing to their traffic for one.

 

Secondly, Bitch is nuttier than squirrel shit and can't be trusted so why bother. 

 

I haven't seen a single text, email nor heard a voicemail. I'm keeping up with the overall drama and timeline but I can't bring myself to delve into the more intimate exchanges. Just can't. 

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I didn't want to contribute one iota of traffic to that site either, but I kept hearing about the pictures and wondered, same as many here, if it was really Meri.

 

I also listened to a couple of voicemails (I didn't want to admit it but there it is) - two random ones from late March - where she tells "Sam" that she loves him in a very casual way, the way you might say it as you're signing off from talking to your spouse.  I have no clue how long they'd been talking by that point, but I didn't expect the "I love you" part.

 

All the photos taken by Sam/Jackie/Nutjob of the inside of Meri's house especially squicked me out.  That's crazy stalkerish behavior.

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Since bananas are a good source of potassium and a part of a balanced diet, I will not be looking at the pictures for my own health.

What did bananas ever do to you Meri?

 

Wise move, leighroda. 

Meri, next time you try to do a suggestive pic involving your mouth and a banana, try applying a glossy red lipstick. Well, at least you didn't use your teeth. 

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NEVER thought I would be sympathetic to anyone on this show and I originally posted on TWOP that Merri was secretly working on her exit strategy but my heart kinda goes out to Merri as she looks absolutely miserable. The writing is on the wall probably behind that beautiful wet bar that she needs to leave for her own sake. She needs to focus on getting a job and restarting her life. Maybe she needs to be deprogrammed from this misogynistic idealogy. The woman always loses in this lifestyle and even in the bible it never worked out (Sarah/Hagar, David). Forget about meeting someone online. She has to focus on figuring out her identity besides wife #1 which clearly is in date order only. Better restart now in her 40s than later and suffer more blantant disregard from your "celestial king". Could it have been a more colder reception when she confessed to her family?

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I didn't want to contribute one iota of traffic to that site either, but I kept hearing about the pictures and wondered, same as many here, if it was really Meri.

 

I also listened to a couple of voicemails (I didn't want to admit it but there it is) - two random ones from late March - where she tells "Sam" that she loves him in a very casual way, the way you might say it as you're signing off from talking to your spouse.  I have no clue how long they'd been talking by that point, but I didn't expect the "I love you" part.

 

All the photos taken by Sam/Jackie/Nutjob of the inside of Meri's house especially squicked me out.  That's crazy stalkerish behavior.

Can you hear her/his voice? Or just Mary's? 

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I still can wrap my head around the fact that frumpy, unattractive Meri thought that a handsome, rich businessman would want to be with her, when he could be with a younger, beautiful woman.  She is delusional. 

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