The Annual Academy Awards - General Discussion

[Diana Berry]

3 hours ago, jjj said:

THEY SHOULD HAVE RE-DONE THE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR REAL.  And let the Moonlight crew come up in an excited, dignified way, not, "Stop screwing with us, we know this is not real."  What a disgrace. 

Agree very undignified way to handle it.  The accountants or pres of the academy should have come out.

[vb68]

That just may be the weirdest thing that ever happened at the Oscars.

[Vermicious Knid]

Hey, they didn't bring the accountants of PWC out on stage did they? Karma!

[mojoween]

Warren tried to pass it off but Faye was no help at all.  I wish she had looked at the card he was trying to show her and maybe she would have seen it said Best Actress.

Maybe each award has two envelopes?  One to give to the winner and one to keep in a vault somewhere?

Edited February 27, 2017 by mojoween

[Celia Rubenstein]

I was so bummed when they announced Lala Land won.   I almost turned the TV off.  I don't give two hoots about Lala Land. 

But Moonlight won and I guess that's what really matters.  Still, it really sucks they didn't get their moment.  I mean ... they got a moment, lol.  Just not the one everyone dreams of.  

[KaveDweller]

4 minutes ago, Diana Berry said:

 

 

Why wouldn't he say something ?

Live TV so he didn't want to mess things up? There's not exactly precedent for this and La La Land was the front runner.

[jjj]

No, I feel bad for the "Moonlight" people.  They wuz robbed of their moment.

[LexieLily]

Just now, vb68 said:

That just may be the weirdest thing that ever happened at the Oscars.

I went to the kitchen for something and missed it and now my timeline is blowing up with Holy Shit-esque reactions. What did I miss?

[Misslindsey]

Just now, vb68 said:

That just may be the weirdest thing that ever happened at the Oscars.

It might beat Rob Lowe and Snow White dancing.

[sally-can-wait]

Just now, mojoween said:

Warren tried to pass it off but Faye was no help at all.  I wish she had looked at the card he was trying to show her and maybe she would have seen it said Beat Actress.

Maybe each award has two envelopes?  One to give to the winner and one to keep in a vault somewhere?

You could tell he was super confused and she just took the card and read it without looking at the fine print. SO AWKWARD!

[Petunia13]

9 hours ago, Petunia13 said:

I'm rooting for Moonlight. 

Woo ??

[galaxygirl76]

1 minute ago, Vermicious Knid said:

Hey, they didn't bring the accountants of PWC out on stage did they? Karma!

I was wondering the same thing...and all those years people were making fun of them...

[slowpoked]

Wow, just wow.

And here I was thinking that that crew member was so rude walking around the La La Land people while the producers were giving their speeches. I was like, get him out of there!

[catrox14]

Well that was wild! YAY Moonlight!

[ShadowHunter]

I rewind on my DVR to watch again. I didn't want La La Land to win but now I feel bad. I thought they took it well but they must feel upset. 

Congrats to Moonlight.

[ByaNose]

So, Warren read the big bold letter for La La Land & small letters Emma Stone?

Edited February 27, 2017 by ByaNose

[Misslindsey]

Warren did look confused and even looked in the envelope again. I thought he was sort of doing a bit or trying to be funny. I was thinking get on with it.

[elle]

3 minutes ago, mojoween said:

I was looking down, was the guy who held up the card one of La La Land's producers?  So he happened to be looking at the card and noticed it wasn't his award to keep?

Someone else realized that they had the wrong envelope, I don't think he even had it when he was talking.  He had just finished his speech when someone, it seems, told him there was something wrong and he was the one saying "no, no, this is real, there's been a mistake".   Though, I think he eventually was the one holding up the card for the camera.

[Unusual Suspect]

I'm suddenly reminded of ending of Naked Gun 33 1/3.

[Amethyst]

Holy crap, that was crazy.  I don't know if it was staged, but that took the show from "meh" to "what the shit is going on?" 

I feel bad for both the people in La La Land and Moonlight.  How embarrassing to have to leave the stage because you didn't actually win, and on the flip side, being robbed of your moment to accept the award.

This explains why Warren was staring at the envelope like that.  If that wasn't planned, someone's getting in a lot of trouble for that blunder.

[ByaNose]

Justin Timberlake who?

[SnoGirl]

I can't believe that happened. Could you just imagine backstage when they realized the wrong award winner had been read?

How awful for the LaLa Land guy to give a speech and then hold up the card with the real winner on it. 

This better not be a stunt, bc it would be the shittiest thing ever. 

[Irlandesa]

37 minutes ago, Sugar said:

Innocent until proven guilty, y'all.

That applies to criminal cases, This was a civil case.  A civil case that was settled and therefore it's over.  No doubt, civil cases are sometimes settled to simply make them go away but I think it's beyond fair for one to see that it was settled and reach the conclusion that the women who filed suit had a legitimate complaint and that he's at least guilty-ish. 

But as I was typing this....that best picture thing was wow.  Thankfully, the La La people handled it with grace.  And I'm happy Moonlight won but too bad it was such a cluster.  People will be talking more about the mess up than they will about the movie.

Edited February 27, 2017 by Irlandesa

[mojoween]

They just showed that guy holding up the card on the news and it said Moonlight in big letters, then the producers names under that, then way at the bottom of the card Best Picture in teensy letters.

So yeah.  Anyone whose eyesight isn't what it used to be probably wouldn't have seen the category name.

[Diana Berry]

3 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

Warren did look confused and even looked in the envelope again. I thought he was sort of doing a bit or trying to be funny. I was thinking get on with it.

Me too.  Feel bad that he's going to be the goat for this.

 

i still wonder if this was a stunt pulled by Jimmy.  He didn't seem upset making jokes about Harvey.

[wallflower75]

14 minutes ago, Nordly Beaumont said:

Interesting that Huffington Post just published an article on what would happen it the wrong name/movie was announced. (Exactly this, by the way)

Do you have a link to the article?  I'd love to read it.

[roamyn]

Just now, mojoween said:

They just showed that guy holding up the card on the news and it said Moonlight in big letters, then the producers names under that, then way at the bottom of the card Best Picture in teensy letters.

So yeah.  Anyone whose eyesight isn't what it used to be probably wouldn't have seen the category name.

But Faye just took the card from Warren, as he was doing a double take, and read it, without looking at it.

[Laurie4H]

It was staged.

[mtlchick]

Also it seems Leo never gave Emma Stone her envelope to keep....

[ShadowHunter]

I give the show this people will be talking about this for years to come.

[jcin617]

2 minutes ago, mojoween said:

They just showed that guy holding up the card on the news and it said Moonlight in big letters, then the producers names under that, then way at the bottom of the card Best Picture in teensy letters.

So yeah.  Anyone whose eyesight isn't what it used to be probably wouldn't have seen the category name.

But it then wouldn't it have said Emma Stone in big letters?

[Valny]

When I saw that guy with the headset walking back and forth holding the red envelope amongst the La La Land people, I had a funny feeling, and thought, oh crap.... did announce the wrong winner?

They'll be talking about this for a loooong time. You can be sure they will fix it next year so it never happens again.

[Wings]

Clearly this was NOT staged.  The wrong card was in the envelope and Warren was probably about to announce that he had the wrong card, when Faye grabbed it she just saw the movie title and blurted it out.  We thought he was fooling around and so did she.  

[KaveDweller]

Just now, Diana Berry said:

Me too.  Feel bad that he's going to be the goat for this.

 

i still wonder if this was a stunt pulled by Jimmy.  He didn't seem upset making jokes about Harvey.

I rewatched reading the winner, and he actually showed the card to Faye like he didn't know what to do, and she announced the winner.  So he really shouldn't get the blame. 

Jimmy never seems that upset about anything.

[Brn2bwild]

Why would you bother to stage such a thing?  It hurts both the Moonlight and Lala Land production crews.

[catrox14]

1 minute ago, Diana Berry said:

Me too.  Feel bad that he's going to be the goat for this.

 

i still wonder if this was a stunt pulled by Jimmy.  He didn't seem upset making jokes about Harvey.

No I don't believe it's a stunt.  I think he didn't know what to do about any of it

[sally-can-wait]

1 minute ago, Laurie4H said:

It was staged.

I really hope not. That would be awful. 

[DHDancer]

Storm in a teacup.  You'd think this was a world crisis. Jeez, you have an administrative screwup and expect Beatty to think on his feet (he did well, IMO).  As Kimmel said, it's just an award show for goodness sakes.

[Celia Rubenstein]

Damn, I was all bored and sleepy and ready for bed.  This has jolted me awake.  

I doubt this was staged to create a "buzz."  This is the Academy Awards.  It's covered ad nauseam.  It doesn't need hokey antics to create a buzz.

[Sile]

Just now, jcin617 said:

But it then wouldn't it have said Emma Stone in big letters?

I think that's what caused Warren's confusion.

I really don't feel bad for Moonlight.  Yes, they missed the "moment" that everybody else gets, but they got a "moment" all of their own.  This is the one everybody will talk about, it will be forever shown and talked about on shows in the future and NOBODY will ever forget that Moonlight won Best Picture.

[Gemma Violet]

This reminds me of years ago when Bette Davis in her later years, bless her heart, gave out a major Oscar, maybe Best Picture, and didn't read the nominations, just read the winner.  This is ten time worse.

[Superpole2000]

Just now, Brn2bwild said:

Why would you bother to stage such a thing?  It hurts both the Moonlight and Lala Land production crews.

I'm already more inclined to watch next year's show because of this.

Something is fishy when the first time they screw up they just happen to screw up on the biggest award of the night. They couldn't have screwed up one of the editing or sound mixing awards?

[vb68]

I also feel bad for Warren and Faye.  They have to be embarrassed as hell and mortified.

Whenever I see something like that, I always think "Thank god I didn't do it!"  

Edited February 27, 2017 by vb68

[jjj]

This is someone's worst nightmare on the production side.  Somebody backstage was screaming "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" for about thirty seconds while the rest of production was running like mad.  (Not that I was there, but I've done producing of events.)

[ShadowHunter]

The real person at fault is the one that handed Warren the wrong envelope. 

[Celia Rubenstein]

2 minutes ago, Superpole2000 said:

Something is fishy when the first time they screw up they just happen to screw up on the biggest award of the night. They couldn't have screwed up one of the editing or sound mixing awards?

Who's to say they didn't .... 

Edited February 27, 2017 by Celia Rubenstein

[Negritude]

I was doing my hair and sitting under a hood dryer while watching with closed caption and just saw somebody with a headset walking back and forth and a bunch of commotion and  not until the LLL guy held up the card that said Moonlight did I realize what was happening ha! 

I saw Moonlight but was alittle underwhelmed by it. It makes me wish Fruitvale could've gotten the same love a few years back since I thought it was in a much better film.

[Valny]

Did anyone catch the look on Damien C's face? He was way in the back but he did not look pleased... or maybe it was just shock... as would anyone be.

[LeeLeePanda]

Or the person who put the wrong card in the envelope. Either way, total amateur hour. 

[Wings]

2 minutes ago, DHDancer said:

Storm in a teacup.  You'd think this was a world crisis. Jeez, you have an administrative screwup and expect Beatty to think on his feet (he did well, IMO).  As Kimmel said, it's just an award show for goodness sakes.

Yes!  This was NOT staged, it was a mistake, that is all.  No harm done.  A few disappointed people but they are over it already.